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Triple A 11-25-2019 01:03 AM

Mauro Ranallo deactivates Twitter after criticism from Corey Graves
 
Already posted in the Survivor Series thread but might as well post as a thread...

Mauro deactivated or deleted his Twitter account after Graves posted this...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just for the record guys, I know you wouldn’t know it, but there’s actually a WWE Hall of Famer AND a former Ring of Honor Champion on commentary.<br><br>I’d imagine they have a lot to offer.<br><br>��█♂️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NXTTakeoverWarGames?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NXTTakeoverWarGames</a></p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1198414519556562944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Far, far too many.</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1198428291251810304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He wasn't at Survivor Series and Michael Cole said it was because he "blew out his voice" at TakeOver and he'll be back on NXT on Wednesday

Triple A 11-25-2019 01:04 AM

Kinda wonder if company man Graves was used by "higher ups" at WWE to "send Mauro a message"

Isn't that what was revealed they were doing last time when JBL bashed him on that WWE Network show, which led to him leaving the SmackDown team...?

Or maybe I'm mixing it up with when Graves was used to "send a message" to Enzo Amore on that same show

Evil Vito 11-25-2019 01:09 AM

Mauro sucked at Takeover, but deactivating Twitter is probably the right move for him. Social media in general is a cesspool for anyone with mental health issues.

Destor 11-25-2019 01:11 AM

Ranallo is a very good commentator but man...he's such a bitch

xrodmuc316 11-25-2019 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5304408)
Kinda wonder if company man Graves was used by "higher ups" at WWE to "send Mauro a message"

Isn't that what was revealed they were doing last time when JBL bashed him on that WWE Network show, which led to him leaving the SmackDown team...?

Or maybe I'm mixing it up with when Graves was used to "send a message" to Enzo Amore on that same show

That was actually a different show, but Enzo flipped it on Graves by shutting down everything he said. Graves sat there like a scared kid while Enzo ate an Apple in his face lol

Bad News Gertner 11-25-2019 01:29 AM

What a giant fucking bitch

Sepholio 11-25-2019 01:38 AM

Oh no my feelings :( I need a sick day.

Droford 11-25-2019 02:32 AM

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...72/883/198.gif

in this case i guess Mauro = everyone

BobbyHeenanJR 11-25-2019 02:37 AM

Mauro Pussi is what my dad would have called him if his tongue still worked and he wasn't dead.


Dad was great at intelligent nicknames.

GD 11-25-2019 03:50 AM

Read a lot of decent responses on SquaredCircle. Maybe Mauro was already dealing with something and Corey’s comment was the last straw. Corey’s tweets essentially gave toxic folks a chance to voice there less than stellar opinions on the man. Mauro could’ve brushed away the critique, considering Graves isn’t any better when it comes to talking over Young and Saxton.

slik 11-25-2019 02:30 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">�� <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@davemeltzerWON</a>, you uninformed, false narrative pushing liar.<br><br>My phone works. You’re a “journalist,” right? You can find my number.</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199016032452653058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Triple A 11-25-2019 02:33 PM

Mauro deactivated his account after his coworker Graves publicly shit on him, and Mauro's friend Frank Shamrock said he wanted to punch Graves in the mouth... How is it a lie...

slik 11-25-2019 02:54 PM

I hope Mauro gets fired

Bad News Gertner 11-25-2019 03:30 PM

Just for his awfulness

Volare 11-25-2019 04:08 PM

Again I miss the 90s.

Sepholio 11-25-2019 04:11 PM

Graves didn't "shit" on him, Mauro overreacted AGAIN, and Frank Shamrock isn't just his friend, he's his manager/agent. It's amazing. Mauro "please don't cyber bully me" Ranallo's manager basically trying to cyber bully Corey. Mauro should be fired and Frank Shamrock should have the taste slapped out of his mouth.

Triple A 11-25-2019 04:17 PM

smh @ everyone acting like they wouldn't be pissed or feel bad if they were a commentator (or really at any job) and your "colleague" Corey Graves tweeted that shit about you to all of his followers

Especially considering the possibility that WWE might be using Graves to "send Mauro a message," or if not that, Graves might have some influence that could hurt Mauro's career since he seems to dislike how he does his job. That would give any normal person "anxiety" at least

Destor 11-25-2019 04:19 PM

Its unprofessional to shoot on people on twitter. Its pathetic to cry about it. Both can be true.

Supreme Olajuwon 11-25-2019 05:54 PM

I’d love to know how Graves thought this was gonna go when he tweeted that. Yes Mauro is easily triggered, but it’s also well known that he’s easily triggered. So you’re basically punching down on a sympathetic figure who is pretty universally liked in the wrestling and MMA communities. Seems like a bad idea from the start.

slik 11-25-2019 05:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you the guy that is simultaneously a “wrestler” and a dirt sheet writer, yet doesn’t ACTUALLY grasp how this world works?</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199053700041445379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 11-25-2019 05:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll help.... (281) 330-8004 <a href="https://t.co/urfGBd90xt">https://t.co/urfGBd90xt</a></p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/1199060115409833984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 11-25-2019 05:57 PM

Of course Dave Meltzer tried to put his own spin on it because he's gotta keep his name out there.

Graves barely even went at Mauro anyways, surely nowhere near what other people have said. To think Corey's opinion is that important to Mauro that the slightest criticism from Graves would cause a full scale meltdown where he would no show survivor series is quite the stretch.

xrodmuc316 11-25-2019 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304537)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll help.... (281) 330-8004 <a href="https://t.co/urfGBd90xt">https://t.co/urfGBd90xt</a></p>&mdash; Rusev (@RusevBUL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RusevBUL/status/1199060115409833984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL, did Rusev just put Graves number on Twitter??? Classic!

Supreme Olajuwon 11-25-2019 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5304539)
LOL, did Rusev just put Graves number on Twitter??? Classic!

It’s from a song

Supreme Olajuwon 11-25-2019 06:01 PM

https://static-stereogum-com.cdn.amp...es-828x536.jpg

xrodmuc316 11-25-2019 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5304540)
It’s from a song

Aww yeah saw in the comments, must have missed that one lol

Emperor Smeat 11-25-2019 06:02 PM

According to PWI, it wasn't just Graves tweet that caused Mauro to deactivate his Twitter account but also all the harassment and negative responses he was getting afterwards from Graves fans and others who hate him online.

Like with Rollins recently, Graves pretty much opened the flood gates for the online abuse to happen all at once towards Mauro.

Triple A 11-25-2019 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304536)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you the guy that is simultaneously a “wrestler” and a dirt sheet writer, yet doesn’t ACTUALLY grasp how this world works?</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199053700041445379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What... Horrible comeback by Graves...

Triple A 11-25-2019 06:13 PM

Is Graves trying to say that him shitting on Mauro and causing an avalanche of his fans to attack him is a "work" somehow or something... Towards what end...

Evil Vito 11-25-2019 06:17 PM

Corey Graves is being a corporate shill, just like Seth Rollins

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-25-2019 06:28 PM

I've no issue with Ranallo being criticized for his often 'me-first' commentary where he's more focused on getting himself over than the product itself. It's just so beyond unprofessional to do so on Twitter.

Eh, Ranallo might be easily triggered but it seems like it was done TO TRIGGER the guy. It's soft, but I wouldn't love getting destroyed with abuse from the Twitter mob over something into which I pour my heart and soul.

Though I do agree with Destor. At the end of the day just man up and tell the dude to fuck off and to show some professionalism. If Graves has a problem with that, well, then he's as much of a dingus as he seems.

slik 11-25-2019 07:24 PM

It's not that horrible a comeback since Bryan Alvarez is a really bad wrestler

slik 11-25-2019 07:25 PM

The moral of the story is simple:

Mauro sucks

Corey has free speech

Mauro should be fired and can go get a job doing data entry where he doesn't have to worry about his feelings

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-25-2019 07:26 PM

Bryan's a decent wrestler.

slik 11-25-2019 07:29 PM

LOL no he isn't

I have tried to watch matches he was in YT before and he doesn't know how to work a crowd at all

zero energy/psychology

GD 11-25-2019 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304553)
It's not that horrible a comeback since Bryan Alvarez is a really bad wrestler

It's a jab for the sake of a jab. There's no logic behind it nor does it add to the overall argument.

GD 11-25-2019 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304555)
The moral of the story is simple:

Mauro sucks

Corey has free speech

Mauro should be fired and can go get a job doing data entry where he doesn't have to worry about his feelings

That's your personal bias.

While Graves has free speech, criticizing his colleague in a public forum was unprofessional. Especially considering that Mauro's issues are well known.

slik 11-25-2019 08:01 PM

People in WWE trash other people in the company publicly all the time

It sounds to me like WWE, his employer, has made reasonable accommodation and now has an employee 'no call no showing'

slik 11-25-2019 08:02 PM

When Mauro returns he definitely deserves to be written up for job abandonment.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-25-2019 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304557)
LOL no he isn't

I have tried to watch matches he was in YT before and he doesn't know how to work a crowd at all

zero energy/psychology

I mean he's okay. An indy guy with decent mechanics. He doesn't have the 'it' factor but that doesn't mean he's bad at his other job. Understanding how to connect with a crowd and being able to execute are two vastly different things.

slik 11-25-2019 08:09 PM

I think the solution for this is for Michael Cole to step down effective immediately and to promote Graves to Director of Commentary, Live Television. That way Graves can re-focus the commentary teams in the direction he sees fit and restructure/remove any team as needed.

GD 11-25-2019 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304564)
People in WWE trash other people in the company publicly all the time

It sounds to me like WWE, his employer, has made reasonable accommodation and now has an employee 'no call no showing'

You can't defend Corey Graves' crassness because everyone else does the same. While we are at it, which other WWE commentator goes around making petty comments about their coworkers on Twitter?

slik 11-25-2019 08:13 PM

CM Punk

slik 11-25-2019 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304567)
I think the solution for this is for Michael Cole to step down effective immediately and to promote Graves to Director of Commentary, Live Television. That way Graves can re-focus the commentary teams in the direction he sees fit and restructure/remove any team as needed.

Graves could also put Mauro on a 'Performance Improvement Plan' so they could track his progress at following established guidelines.

GD 11-25-2019 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5304556)
Bryan's a decent wrestler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304536)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you the guy that is simultaneously a “wrestler” and a dirt sheet writer, yet doesn’t ACTUALLY grasp how this world works?</p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1199053700041445379?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5304556)
Bryan's a decent wrestler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304557)
LOL no he isn't

I have tried to watch matches he was in YT before and he doesn't know how to work a crowd at all

zero energy/psychology

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5304566)
I mean he's okay. An indy guy with decent mechanics. He doesn't have the 'it' factor but that doesn't mean he's bad at his other job. Understanding how to connect with a crowd and being able to execute are two vastly different things.

Yes, Bryan Alvarez's wrestling ability is in direct correlation to the argument at hand. If only he would've been a better performer, Corey's comments would become inexcusable.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-25-2019 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304570)
CM Punk

Punk technically works for Fox.

slik 11-25-2019 08:21 PM

I don't believe for one second he doesn't have a contract w WWE as well, regardless of what he claims

slik 11-25-2019 08:21 PM

Punk rasslin in Tampa in April for sure

RaginRonic 11-25-2019 08:59 PM

I think that Cory here committed an act of social terrorism, in much the same way that Trump committed an act of domestic terrorism in the U.S. when he filed papers to run for the White House in 2016.

And that anyone who thinks or speaks positively about what Cory did is a social terrorist as well who should be locked up for 10-20 in a maximum security gulag.

=P

BigCrippyZ 11-26-2019 12:57 AM

Holy fuck this company is stupid for continuing to employ the dumb fuck, and absolute pussy, that is Corey Graves, while being so "PC" and "anti-bullying", regardless of Mauro's issues. Corey Graves likely wouldn't show up to even have a debate with me, because he's a coward and an idiot, and I'm in a fucking wheelchair.

Nicky Fives 11-26-2019 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5304691)
Holy fuck this company is stupid for continuing to employ the dumb fuck, and absolute pussy, that is Corey Graves, while being so "PC" and "anti-bullying", regardless of Mauro's issues. Corey Graves likely wouldn't show up to even have a debate with me, because he's a coward and an idiot, and I'm in a fucking wheelchair.

The last time I checked, saying that you don't like someone's style is not "bullying".... Graves can have his opinion and is free to it, probably not the best idea to "shit" on a co-worker like he did, but it seems to me it was more of a "Mauro gets all the love, but don't forget Nigel & Beth are great too" type of Tweet.

But that's not controversial enough and then the hype began....

Sepholio 11-26-2019 05:30 AM

Yep, he was just trying to get his coworkers some attention. Mauro pusses out as per usual and all the SJWs come out the wood work to stick up for their favorite pussy.

Mauro is all MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME and when anyone says anything to him he takes his ball and goes home and cries. He is the worst kind of employee and if WWE knew they wouldn't catch a whole bunch of flak for firing "Mr. Sensitive" he would have been gone a LONG time ago.

GD 11-26-2019 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5304708)
Yep, he was just trying to get his coworkers some attention. Mauro pusses out as per usual and all the SJWs come out the wood work to stick up for their favorite pussy.

Mauro is all MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME and when anyone says anything to him he takes his ball and goes home and cries. He is the worst kind of employee and if WWE knew they wouldn't catch a whole bunch of flak for firing "Mr. Sensitive" he would have been gone a LONG time ago.

Seph, I'm unsure if you're trying to be cute or edgy but it's not just social justice warriors who recognize the plight of Ranallo. The man suffers from a real ailment. Just because it doesn't manifest in physical form, doesn't make it any less severe. Because of folx like yourself and the stigma surrounding mental health related issues, people are confining themselves in their homes.

Have some compassion, my dude. Just because you do not understand it, does not make it any less real.

Sepholio 11-26-2019 06:15 AM

I love how you say because of folks like me. I'm one of the people who suffers from things like Mauro. He makes us all look bad, like we can't handle life. The stigma is because of people like him. The rest of us just don't get special treatment like he does; we still have to show up and do our jobs and handle our business.

Don't tell me I don't understand it; I've been being treated for it for 20 years. I had to be committed before because I got fucked up by a treatment I was prescribed.

You're the one who doesn't understand. We don't need people making excuses for us. Making us feel like we're lesser and need special treatment. We don't need to be handled with kids gloves.

Fuck Mauro.

GD 11-26-2019 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5304710)
I love how you say because of folks like me. I'm one of the people who suffers from things like Mauro. He makes us all look bad, like we can't handle life. The stigma is because of people like him. The rest of us just don't get special treatment like he does; we still have to show up and do our jobs and handle our business.

Don't tell me I don't understand it; I've been being treated for it for 20 years. I had to be committed before because I got fucked up by a treatment I was prescribed.

You're the one who doesn't understand. We don't need people making excuses for us. Making us feel like we're lesser and need special treatment. We don't need to be handled with kids gloves.

Fuck Mauro.


I'm sure you understand that just because we don't have his privileges, doesn't make his problems any less significant. "Unlike us", he's in a position where he's able to uphold his boundaries.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-26-2019 07:23 AM

Dave, I'm not in TOTAL disagreement with you about Mauro as you should garner from my posts. And I think maybe Seph's outlook on this is a bit black and white.

But really, the guy is a bit of a bitch and a huge egotist. Seriously, just tell Graves to shut his googley-eyed pie hole the next time you see him. OR, just be like "dude you're fucking awful as a commentator, who cares what you have to say about anything?"

Graves was all kinds of wrong, but I do wish Mauro didn't whittle into playing the victim. At the end of the day, despite the fact that he spends most of the time getting himself over on commentary, he gets 99 per cent praise on twitter for being the greatest of all time. That should be enough.

GD 11-26-2019 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5304715)
Dave, I'm not in TOTAL disagreement with you about Mauro as you should garner from my posts. And I think maybe Seph's outlook on this is a bit black and white.

But really, the guy is a bit of a bitch and a huge egotist. Seriously, just tell Graves to shut his googley-eyed pie hole the next time you see him. OR, just be like "dude you're fucking awful as a commentator, who cares what you have to say about anything?"

Graves was all kinds of wrong, but I do wish Mauro didn't whittle into playing the victim. At the end of the day, despite the fact that he spends most of the time getting himself over on commentary, he gets 99 per cent praise on twitter for being the greatest of all time. That should be enough.


Mauro is certainly not without his issues. He's also at an age where learning new coping methods is difficult.

Personally, I would've addressed it in private and would've fulfilled my commitments like a professional but I also understand that he was going through a difficult period prior to the TakeOver special. We are a vicious bunch and are highly critical. We lack empathy to a fault.

Corey's comments unwillingly opened the floodgates for fans to criticize Mauro without any restrictions. If it came down to choosing between "maning up / standing up for myself" vs "just getting through the day without suicidal thoughts or tendencies", I'd pick the latter, not caring if the world thought that I was a "pussy".

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-26-2019 08:13 AM

You know there's nothing wrong with getting triggered--it's all about how you react and internalize.

It's possible to be simultaneously get triggered, be super sad about something, but still stand up for yourself and be a man without having a full-on meltdown.

Supreme Olajuwon 11-26-2019 08:28 AM

I love the handful of you that think Mauro is a giant egomaniac who always puts himself over and also voluntarily chose to give up his spot on one of the biggest shows of the year.

It’s almost like “suck it up” doesn’t always work.

Jordan 11-26-2019 08:32 AM

If he is so fragile that he can't deal with what Corey said then I am at a loss. I wouldn't say it was an insult, bordering on workplace bullying, but really, it was a criticism. Not common to see heat like that among those at the same company but it's just a tweet. I don't hate Mauro ... but he is so much, he is so over the top pretty much always now. I don't enjoy his work, I don't enjoy Corey's work. I think they are both bitches. I understand that Mauro has bi-polar disorder but I don't know what that has to do with being a big pussy.

GD 11-26-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5304720)
You know there's nothing wrong with getting triggered--it's all about how you react and internalize.

It's possible to be simultaneously get triggered, be super sad about something, but still stand up for yourself and be a man without having a full-on meltdown.

I want to say that the rules that apply to most of us do not necessarily apply to him because he's essentially "challenged". It's quite a predicament where I don't feel comfortable presenting a solution based on my personal experience.

Jordan 11-26-2019 08:33 AM

Is he on the spectrum as they say? I could see that.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-26-2019 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5304722)
I love the handful of you that think Mauro is a giant egomaniac who always puts himself over and also voluntarily chose to give up his spot on one of the biggest shows of the year.

It’s almost like “suck it up” doesn’t always work.

That's oversimplifying what I'm saying. I suffer from depression and have DEFINITELY bailed on work because of symptoms. Though there are times when - like with any sickness - you have to put on a brave face. I've played rugby games - for instance - both with a brutal fucking sinus infection and with really rough depression.

But I think Mauro is more of an egomaniac than the narrative surrounding him suggests. There's a need to present him as some kind of SUPERHERO. Whereas I've heard rumblings that he's kind of just an irritating cocksucker.

It does get tricky with Mauro though, because he's obviously severely effected. But I feel like there's more people in the world suffering from similar symptoms who deal with similar situations in a superior fashion. Yeah, maybe they do get hit with a wave of suicidal thoughts. Hell, maybe they cry to themselves and have a fucking breakdown/fit. But they grit their teeth and lick their wounds without this kind of shit storm brewing.

At the end of the day, Graves should be disciplined. Nothing should happen to Mauro other than receiving an apology. However, I think Mauro surrounds himself with far too many yes men and isn't great with criticism.

Though, to circle back, Graves clearly highlights the toxic nature of the WWE work environment. Both him and Rollins I feel like probably were both reasonable human beings before being consumed by that despicable culture.

GD 11-26-2019 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5304723)
If he is so fragile that he can't deal with what Corey said then I am at a loss. I wouldn't say it was an insult, bordering on workplace bullying, but really, it was a criticism. Not common to see heat like that among those at the same company but it's just a tweet. I don't hate Mauro ... but he is so much, he is so over the top pretty much always now. I don't enjoy his work, I don't enjoy Corey's work. I think they are both bitches. I understand that Mauro has bi-polar disorder but I don't know what that has to do with being a big pussy.

I am glad that you are acknowledging your limitation to understand the situation. Imagine knocking down an already injured person and calling him a "pussy" for not fighting back. Not everyone is made the same way.

Jordan 11-26-2019 08:43 AM

Well I wouldn't do that. I read that Graves essentially said the other other two announcers couldnt get a word in edge wise.

GD 11-26-2019 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5304726)
That's oversimplifying what I'm saying. I suffer from depression and have DEFINITELY bailed on work because of symptoms. Though there are times when - like with any sickness - you have to put on a brave face. I've played rugby games - for instance - both with a brutal fucking sinus infection and with really rough depression.

But I think Mauro is more of an egomaniac than the narrative surrounding him suggests. There's a need to present him as some kind of SUPERHERO. Whereas I've heard rumblings that he's kind of just an irritating cocksucker.

It does get tricky with Mauro though, because he's obviously severely effected. But I feel like there's more people in the world suffering from similar symptoms who deal with similar situations in a superior fashion. Yeah, maybe they do get hit with a wave of suicidal thoughts. Hell, maybe they cry to themselves and have a fucking breakdown/fit. But they grit their teeth and lick their wounds without this kind of shit storm brewing.

At the end of the day, Graves should be disciplined. Nothing should happen to Mauro other than receiving an apology. However, I think Mauro surrounds himself with far too many yes men and isn't great with criticism.

Though, to circle back, Graves clearly highlights the toxic nature of the WWE culture. Both him and Rollins I feel like probably were both reasonable human beings before being consumed by that despicable culture.

Fuck, I wholeheartedly agree with what Dale has to say here. He gets it.

Jordan 11-26-2019 08:47 AM

Taking into consideration Mauro has said to have Bi-Polar disorder, Graves is indeed a dick for publicly saying what he said. I totally see that. I just don't know that taking the big PPV off for what happened seems necessary to me. But you're all right who are in Mauro's mental corner, I'm not him and I don't deal with things the way he does. If WWE is okay with working around his problems then I support that because that's big growth for the E.

GD 11-26-2019 08:59 AM

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Destor 11-26-2019 10:47 AM

Having a public job isnt for him. He should consider commentating high school football for local radio.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-26-2019 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5304740)
Having a public job isnt for him. He should consider commentating high school football for local radio.

As a bleeding heart, it pains me to say that you're right.

erickman 11-26-2019 11:10 AM

or just leave the wwe he was happy at showtime

Destor 11-26-2019 11:42 AM

He'd be great at voice over work. Like national radio spots and the like

Seanny One Ball 11-26-2019 12:13 PM

How long before we get a Bi Polar tag team, one would be North and the other South and they would come out with barber poles just because.

Supreme Olajuwon 11-26-2019 12:58 PM

Would’ve been a great gimmick for Enzo and Cass

Mr. Nerfect 11-27-2019 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5304710)
I love how you say because of folks like me. I'm one of the people who suffers from things like Mauro. He makes us all look bad, like we can't handle life. The stigma is because of people like him. The rest of us just don't get special treatment like he does; we still have to show up and do our jobs and handle our business.

Don't tell me I don't understand it; I've been being treated for it for 20 years. I had to be committed before because I got fucked up by a treatment I was prescribed.

You're the one who doesn't understand. We don't need people making excuses for us. Making us feel like we're lesser and need special treatment. We don't need to be handled with kids gloves.

Fuck Mauro.

Sorry about your struggles, Seph. I hope you have more good days than bad days. But isn't Mauro like one of the premier broadcasters in sports and professional wrestling? Between what he's achieved in life, I'd say he can handle his shit pretty well most days.

Corey saying what he said is just dickish, because he's a dick, and fuck him. Dude fucking sucks at commentary anyway, but hey, that could just be main roster shit. Dude worked hard and seemed good for a while, but he seems to believe his own shit. Anyway, it's just a fucking asshole thing to do when you're in a publicly traded company to shit on someone trying to do their job.

And this has happened before. This whole bullying, condescending, public dressing down shit happened with JBL when Mauro was basically humiliated on SmackDown and PPV each week because Vince would get his jollies off when the big jock wrestler would sandbag Mauro and make him look like shit for making a human error or being enthusiastic. It's got to have a sting of "Not this fucking shit again. Fuck this." It would be surprising if Graves hasn't been pulled up about this, because didn't Mauro sign some sort of non-disclosure thing and that's probably violated by Graves making this an unhappy mess for everyone.

It doesn't seem like Mauro gets any shit from any other company he's worked for. It's just WWE and that fucking culture. And if Graves has the freedom of speech to speak out, which I would argue you don't have the freedom of consequence of if, say, someone were to replace him with someone better because he's a dick and not even that good, then Mauro has got the right to delete his Twitter so he doesn't have to see this shit. Has he even made a statement saying it was about Graves? Not going to Survivor Series aside, he's actually the one being more professional by biting his tongue.

slik 11-27-2019 03:05 AM

I have switched sides and am now #TeamMauro


Hope he feels better soon!!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mauro Ranallo will not be calling NXT on Wednesday night<a href="https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l">https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l</a></p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1199568813769084928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 11-27-2019 03:08 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Until you’ve felt it’s power, it’s difficult to understand depression &amp; anxiety.<br><br>It’s very real &amp; even worse without someone to lean on.<br><br>Ask for help, or if someone close to you is suffering, please, just listen. It might make all the difference.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WorldMentalHealthDay?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WorldMentalHealthDay</a></p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/status/1182347524537016321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-27-2019 03:09 AM

Bryan Alvarez is a better wrestler than he is a journalist.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-27-2019 03:12 AM

He made one comment about Mauro stifling his co-commentators. It's on Mauro for over-reacting to valid critiques.

slik 11-27-2019 03:14 AM

Tom Phillips should be given the chance to call NXT!

GD 11-27-2019 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5304907)
I have switched sides and am now #TeamMauro


Hope he feels better soon!!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mauro Ranallo will not be calling NXT on Wednesday night<a href="https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l">https://t.co/wYbNzAlT9l</a></p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1199568813769084928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope Corey reaches out to him privately and stops doubling down on his stance on Twitter.

GD 11-27-2019 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5304911)
He made one comment about Mauro stifling his co-commentators. It's on Mauro for over-reacting to valid critiques.

Slicky, have you taken the effort to read a single comment in this thread?

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-27-2019 03:24 AM

He's not wrong but he should reach out if what he said hurt him.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-27-2019 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5304916)
Slicky, have you taken the effort to read a single comment in this thread?

He's said nothing further from what this thread says to Mauro. So, what are you trying to say?

GD 11-27-2019 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5304917)
He's not wrong but he should reach out if what he said hurt him.

They're working in a publicly traded company and not a part time retail gig, sunshine. You do not publicly humiliate your coworkers. Especially when they have a documented history of mental health related issues.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-27-2019 03:36 AM

You can't treat people with kid gloves. This is real life. This to me invalidates whatever JBL said to him and his reaction to it. I now doubt everything.

slik 11-27-2019 03:43 AM

I do think WWE needs to put Mauro on a performance improvement plan when he returns to work


* Remain seated during his job
* Seek management approval prior to pop-culture references
* Let others speak
* Show up to scheduled work shifts


Michael Cole probably going to have 'ream his ass' when Mauro does return.

GD 11-27-2019 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5304922)
You can't treat people with kid gloves. This is real life. This to me invalidates whatever JBL said to him and his reaction to it. I now doubt everything.

I don't have anything constructive to add here, Slicky.

GD 11-27-2019 04:07 AM

I truly believe Mauro Ranallo would be better off not being in that toxic environment. He doesn't need the WWE.

erickman 11-27-2019 04:47 AM

mauro can never call for the wwe again that is the 2nd time that has happened vince can not trust him. if coach still works there put coach in or tom.

Emperor Smeat 11-27-2019 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r/SquaredCircle
Corey Apologizes for his tweets on After the Bell

On his podcast, right at the top of the show he said the following;

“I sent out a tweet. It was an unpopular opinion, as I often do with the intention of just stirring up a little controversy, maybe have something fun to talk about on TV or here on the show. It was maybe not the most professional way to go about things and it was not meant to offend, disrespect or disparage anybody, that was never my intention. If it was taken as such, I apologize deeply, that was not my intention. I would never intentionally cause anybody any undue stress, especially a co-worker” and then he went right into reviewing the weekend.

Additionally, the tweets are still up at the time this was released.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...fter_the_bell/

So Graves purposely antagonized Mauro just so he could potentially have something juicy to talk on his podcast show this week going by his apology.

Sepholio 11-27-2019 05:34 AM

Feel like Graves was told to apologize to see if maybe Mauro might show up to work before next year.

slik 11-27-2019 09:09 AM

Oy

Destor 11-27-2019 09:51 AM

I wish i were so fragile people would flock to defend me if anyone criticized me. Its like twitter tenure

Seanny One Ball 11-27-2019 12:38 PM

Call him Corey Grapes, Mauro.

Grapes can't hurt anybody, only dogs.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-27-2019 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5304955)
I wish i were so fragile people would flock to defend me if anyone criticized me. Its like twitter tenure

True.

But in the same breath, I wish I were a gaping asshole of a human so I could hold onto a job in the WWE for life.

GD 11-27-2019 01:20 PM

Sorry not sorry.

Danny Electric 11-27-2019 01:27 PM

I’m looking forward to the next episode of Raw and the part where Graves rips off his face and reveals he was really Bradshaw all along.

Triple A 11-27-2019 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5304935)
Quote:

Originally Posted by r/SquaredCircle
“I sent out a tweet. It was an unpopular opinion, as I often do with the intention of just stirring up a little controversy, maybe have something fun to talk about on TV or here on the show. It was maybe not the most professional way to go about things and it was not meant to offend, disrespect or disparage anybody, that was never my intention. If it was taken as such, I apologize deeply, that was not my intention. I would never intentionally cause anybody any undue stress, especially a co-worker”


Disparaging Mauro was "never his intention"... The tweet was obviously publicly disparaging him... Idiotic...

Triple A 11-27-2019 01:57 PM

"I would never intentionally cause anybody any undue stress, especially a co-worker"

What did he think was going to happen given Mauro's history... fucking idiot


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