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Wrestle Kingdom 14
Show is the next two mornings, like last year probably best to keep it away from the main NJPW thread.
Start time for night 1 is 2 AM EST, night 2 is 12 AM EST. Night 1 Pre-Show 1: Great Bash Heel (Togi Makabe and Tomoaki Honma), Yuya Uemura, and Yota Tsuji vs. ToaHenare, Alex Coughlin, Clark Connors, Karl Fredericks Pre-Show 2: Tencozy (Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Satoshi Kojima) vs. Yuji Nagata and Manabu Nakanishi 1. Jyushin Thunder Liger, Tatsumi Fujinami, The Great Sasuke, and Tiger Mask vs. Naoki Sano, Shinjiro Otani, Tatsuhito Takaiwa, and Ryusuke Taguchi 2. Minoru Suzuki, Zack Sabre Jr., Taichi, and El Desperado [Suzuki-gun] vs. EVIL, SANADA, BUSHI, and Shingo Takagi [LIJ] 3. Hirooki Goto, Tomohiro Ishii, Toru Yano, and YOSHI-HASHI [CHAOS] vs. KENTA, Bad Luck Fale, Yujiro Takahashi, and Chase Owens [Bullet Club] 4. IWGP Tag Team Championship: FinJuice (Juice Robinson and David Finlay) [NJPW Main Unit] vs. Guerrilas of Destiny (Tama Tonga and Tanga Loa) (C) [Bullet Club] 5. IWGP United States Championship - Texas Death Match: Jon Moxley [AEW] vs. Lance Archer (C) [Suzuki-gun] 6. IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: Hiromu Takahashi [LIJ] vs. Will Ospreay (C) [CHAOS] 7. IWGP Intercontinental Championship: Tetusya Naito [LIJ] vs. Jay White (C) [Bullet Club] 8. IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Kota Ibushi [NJPW Main Unit] vs. Kazuchika Okada (C) [CHAOS] Night 2 Pre-Show - Gauntlet for NEVER Openweight 6-Man Tag Team Championship: Tomihiro Ishii, YOSHI-HASHI, and Robbie Eagles [CHAOS] vs. Bad Luck Fale, Yujiro Takahashi, and Chase Owens [Bullet Club] vs. Taichi, El Desperado, and Yoshinobu Kanemaru [Suzuki-gun] vs. EVIL, BUSHI, and Shingo Takagi [LIJ] vs. The Most Violent Perverts (Togi Makabe, Yano Toru, and Ryusuke Taguchi) [C] 1. Jyushin Thunder Liger's Retirement Match: Jyushin Thunder Liger and Naoki Sano vs. Ryu Lee and Hiromu Takahashi 2. IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championship: Roppongi 3K (SHO and YOH) [CHAOS] vs. Taiji Ishimori and El Phantasmo (C) [Bullet Club] 3. RevPro British Heavyweight Championship: SANADA [LIJ] vs. Zack Sabre Jr. (C) [Suzuki-gun] 4. IWGP United States Championship: Juice Robinson [NJPW Main Unit] vs. TBD (Jon Moxley or Lance Archer) (C) 5. NEVER Openweight Championship: Hirooki Goto [CHAOS] vs. KENTA (C) [Bullet club] 6. Loser of Jay White/Tetsuya Naito night 1 match vs. Loser of Kazuchika Okada/Kota Ibushi night 1 match 7. Chris Jericho [AEW] vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi [NJPW Main Unit] 8. Double Title Match: Intercontinental Champion (Jay White or Tetsuya Naito) vs. IWGP Heavyweight Champion (Kazuchika Okada or Kota Ibushi) |
Can you do it again with graphics plz.
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Googled the start time and it came back with 3 a.m. I was thinking, "I can do that".
But 2 a.m. is tough. Looking more likely that I'll just fire it up when I wake up and avoid the thread until it's over then pop in. |
2 AM is the start of the pre-show. Main card probably not til 2:30/3.
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I'll prob try to watch all of it since I'll probably be awake.
How long do you guys think each show will be? |
Should be around 3 hours for the main show. Going to assume the pre show is half an hour since they aren't broadcasting the STARDOM match.
Not sure i'm going to be able to watch live but really looking forward to this. Hoping Yuji Nagata takes a pin from Kojima to start the show in the best possible way and give me the win in Survivor. Not the best possible way for Smeat, admittedly. If Makabe impossibly manages to get himself pinned in that young lions match I think it would take a Wrestle Kingdom for me to get over it. |
Both pre-shows are an hour long.
Probably looking at least 4 hours each not including the pre-show. Wrestle Kingdom shows are usually in the 5-6 hour range but that's with a 10-11 match main card. Meltzer reported a while ago that NJPW was looking at no later than a 7AM end time for the first night and like 5 hours max for both nights although don't remember if that included the pre-show. |
Really thinking about watching live, since Japanese time is pretty similar to Australian time.
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Far more interested in night two, although I feel night one is going to have the better matches. Okada vs. Ibushi is going to get five stars from most people, I think.
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NJPW World question. I just signed up and it is very confusing. I guess they really don't have an app as it just takes you to their website. Once WK14 starts will it just display a play button to watch? Tried to look through a library but it was mostly just WK hype videos. Was trying to find previous ppv to catch up a bit but might have to search it out. Need help though I think.
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It's not very American-user friendly.
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You need the app to play videos. It supports Chromecast |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, Liger 👏👏👏👏👏<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJWK14?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJWK14</a> <a href="https://t.co/GS5XCS3LSR">pic.twitter.com/GS5XCS3LSR</a></p>— Arby's (@Arbys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/1213127940935966724?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Sad that paying $45 on FITE would be the much easier option. Really weird a Japanese company doesn't have an adequate app to me.
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Do they put up full shows afterwards? A search of Dominion 2019 came up with nothing so I had to do Dominion 6.9, still no full show and mostly just the same match with different commentary.
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5th box on the bottom says withdraw when translated but its the cancel button Also, chrome translates all the pages pretty well from Japanese to English, I dont know what browser you're using. Odd quirk though, NJPW world doesn't work on my chromebook without using the user agent switcher extension but that nerfs the Chromecast option, so I have to use my ANDROID phone running CHROME which makes no sense, but anyway. |
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I just deal with it |
I'm ready for this. I got two Redbulls ready to go.
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Yep I got up a little early to get onto the stream before it craps out as it did last year.
Napped for 4 hours, waking up at one point drenched because the electric heat kicked it up to 75 degrees in my room. We'll see if I'm in a position to watch live tomorrow as well lol |
I am afraid I won't make it all night but I am determined to try.
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I've started with coffee but late at night it doesn't really help me much. Gonna pop open a Redbull soon.
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2am NYC time btw.
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Lol this video for the fans
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I'm doing New Japan World English. |
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I am not too sad about losing the New Japan Rumble for Wrestle Kingdom this year. It usually sucks. Plus I saw legit 5 Battle Royals live last year. I'm good.
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Just so everyone knows where I stand. I don't believe there will be any AEW involvement in this show, even down to Jericho bringing the AEW World Championship to the ring with him... I don't predict that will happen, but I very badly want it to happen. The best would be if the whole Elite showed up, but we shall see!
... If Kota goes to the finals tomorrow then I think that will be my prediction. If Kota wins tonight then I think he wins the whole thing and then The Cleaner Lover appears. |
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NJPW must be expecting record-breaking sub numbers for WK 14 since I don't think they issued a statement for last year's show about potential lag and/or stream issues being very possible.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As the non-televised STARDOM bout gets underway, NJPW World and FITE pre-show broadcasts will begin very soon. <br>In order to prevent server congestion, please do not navigate away or refresh your feed. <br><br>Thank you for your patience. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njwk14?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njwk14</a> <a href="https://t.co/7kn2xeJj0U">pic.twitter.com/7kn2xeJj0U</a></p>— NJPW Global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1213354373151174658?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
I must say in this four way scramble for double belts, I really don't know who will win. Well ... it's like reminiscent of an old Anderson Silva fight. When it comes to Okada, it's dumb to bet against him, but a victory for him leaves me wondering the next step. I could easily see Kota and Jay White in the final match on 1/5, and also another Okada/Naito match but this time with the residue of defeat for both would be an interesting psychology for a great dome match.
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Yeah last year I logged in minutes before the 2 AM start and it took nearly 30 minutes to actually get to the stream.
This year I fired it up 30 minutes early. |
Yeah genuinely no clue who is leaving with the belts.
Naito has a years-long story that never got paid off Ibushi signed a contract, won the G1 and is red hot Gedo has a huge boner for Jay White Okada can never be ruled out and he's a torch bearer for the Tokyo Olympics |
All I'm getting is interviews has the show started?
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On Jay White. I'm in his corner. There is something singularly special about him that nobody else has. It's almost as if he's a more exciting Randy Orton. So naturally talented and athletic but White has a different more extroverted charisma. I can see why Gedo picked him to be the replacement English speaking star for Kenny. He isn't Kenny but he doesn't try to be. I know a lot of people would be really upset if he walked out with two championships when it's all said and done but that is exactly the reason to do it. Just think of the return!
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Where can I get NJPW supercard (it looks exactly like WWE supercard)
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Good to know. My stream just paused so maybe they're starting. |
I wonder how much Chase Owens get's paid per show or per week or how it works.
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Yep
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HERE WE GO
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Yay, live
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We are live!
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The Young Lion sprint to the ring is cooler in the Dome
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Lions match. These dudes look like they are gonna be stars. All of them.
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I actually like Makabe's dubbed theme more than the real thing
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NJPW needs to either give Togi Makabe a giant bag of money so he finds a new theme that can actually play on New Japan World or just pay whatever the asking price is for Immigrant Song since Makabe still doesn't want to change his theme.
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Alex Coughlin is the new Benoit.
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NJPW "Selling out" this show just goes to show that commitment to your booking will actually pay off.
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Thankful we don't have to listen to JR struggle with all of these names.
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These guys are all on their A Game tonight.
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This is cool...
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Yota Tsuji taking all of those chops while keeping the Boston Crab locked in was cool. Yota's good.
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Nice match. Does Toa usually use the uranagi as a finish? Just curious cause I can't remember, but wonder if that was the NJPW way of saying he's not a young lion anymore.
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Not sure about this english commentary team yet... Seems like they could potentially be annoying... but not yet...
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The little Dojo Civil War story that NJPW has going on has been pretty entertaining.
Can tell they really love the work Shibata has been doing as the head trainer there with the showcases they've given to his Dojo. |
Fun opener.
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New Japan Dads!
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I wish they would shoot from the other side so you could see the massive crowd instead of the empty side lol.
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I never really watch NJPW so this is cool to me... Presentation is pretty sweet... Feels like a boxing match / MMA fight... Cheap green entrance ramp mats kinda look like shit but w/e
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Was listening to Jim Valley and Fumi talk about Kojima, whom I have a soft spot for from his work in early MLW. He doesn't get any love because he was an AJPW guy. He could be better used.
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Nagata doesn't eat the pin. Survivor remains endless.
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Pretty good match there but nothing special other than it's at the Dome and they all had a great energy.
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Both pre-show matches were pretty good.
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Time to have a coffee
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I don't think I've ever seen such a big crowd at the Tokyo Dome since the 90's.
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Inoki was a huge MMA fan and under his leadership, he tried to make NJPW's puro style be a lot more MMA focused which ended up hurting the company a lot in the long run. |
Stardom match:
Mayu Iwatani and Arisa Hoshiki beat Hana Kimura and Giulia after friendly fire between Hana and Giulia leading to Mayu pinning Hana with a moonsault. General vibe is that the match was very well-received, which is great to hear. |
All this needs is a countdown clock on the side and Id feel like Id gone back 30 years to VIEWERS CHOICE PPV before a PPV minus the annoying PPV ads
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I just washed my face and brushed my teeth! Feeling refreshed. Got a cold Red Bull I'm about to slurp down after the minty toothpaste goes away.
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Can't wait to see if 66 year old Tatsumi Fujinami can still go.
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Not sure I'll make it through, hope I can find replay tomorrow.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amazing. <a href="https://t.co/uRgzWwjuii">pic.twitter.com/uRgzWwjuii</a></p>— JJ Williams (@JJWilliamsWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/JJWilliamsWON/status/1213369616518397953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Intro video for the show was great. Maybe even the best one ever from NJPW.
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:lol: at Otani's entrance video being just clips of him beating up Liger
Also pretty cool that everyone's entrance video includes their past encounters with Liger in it. |
My god I hope they don't do solo entrances for all the team matches.
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I hope the match isn't a long as the entrances lol my god.
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Naki Sano looks so uncomfortable on camera lol. You'd think he'd have gotten used to it by now.
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I can't recall anyone ever getting a full blown send-off match like this where they brought back everyone from someone's past to be in the match.
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Holy shit at that stadium shot! WOW! Biggest crowd I've seen for NJPW since old days for sure, this is incredible.
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That face wash spot was awesome.
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Night and day difference on how NJPW treated Liger compared to how WWE treated Kurt Angle for their big retirement matches and hype around it.
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Otani reminds me THQ game engine.
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Excalibur!
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lol
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Taguchi with the honors!
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I'm not surprised. You go out on your back in NJPW, and Taguchi is the only active guy on the other team.
Fully expect Liger to eat a pin to Himoru tomorrow. |
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8-man tag match was very good overall.
Didn't think they'd go that all out for spots especially Sasuke with the swanton bomb to the outside. |
I like this commentary team a lot better than the pre-show one
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I sorta figured hed win tonight and lose tomorrow, i guess not
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