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Evil Vito 06-18-2020 09:10 AM

Wrestlers accused of sexual assault
 
David Starr has been accused of sexual assault and gaslighting from multiple ex-girlfriends. Irish-based promotion OTT has already stripped him of their World Title and I'm pretty sure he's gonna be fired by just about every place he works today.

Jordan 06-18-2020 09:32 AM

I bet he goes to Khali's promotion in India.

Evil Vito 06-18-2020 03:15 PM

Mikey Whiplash, Kid Fite, and Ligero are being outed by their female trainees as sex pests now as well.

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2020 03:29 PM

totally read that as Mikey Whipwreck

Evil Vito 06-18-2020 03:33 PM

lol I did that too, was so confused as to why loads of British and Scottish women's wrestlers were speaking out against hi,

slik 06-18-2020 05:55 PM

Don't want anyone to lose their job but sort of hope WWE implodes more soon....otherwise greedy capitalist Vince will just keep trying to expand and create more shows and nxt regions....

in a 'perfect world' only 1 wwe show a week would exist and it would be 2 hrs long...so much less time commitment to be a fan + how can you ever get new fans if it involves watching like 9 hrs of tv a week and more if there are ppvs....

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5352298)
Mikey Whiplash, Kid Fite, and Ligero are being outed by their female trainees as sex pests now as well.

Add Joe Coffey and Jordan Devlin to the list of wrestling scumbags getting outed today.

Devlin more so of him being abusive towards a one woman and Coffey for being a huge creep and stalker.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is scary. I'm really scared. Jordan Devlin did this to me. And this is just the physical damage. <br><br>Not including my arse and back bruises....because I don't fancy posting that online ����█♀️ <a href="https://t.co/TI5CxREpDQ">pic.twitter.com/TI5CxREpDQ</a></p>&mdash; Hannah Francesca (@TextbookGlovers) <a href="https://twitter.com/TextbookGlovers/status/1273731764222033924?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I had to block Joe Coffey on all my social media accounts because he wouldn’t leave me alone. <br><br>I’ve been told tonight that hes sexually harassed 3 girls, sending unsolicited naked images, voice notes, stalking. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/speakingout?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#speakingout</a></p>&mdash; Sierra Loxton ������ (@SierraLoxton) <a href="https://twitter.com/SierraLoxton/status/1273722438141071361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Corporate CockSnogger 06-18-2020 06:19 PM

Aren’t like 90% of wrestlers scumbags?

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 06:36 PM

Probably since you could probably expose almost any notable wrestler for something bad they did in the past if you go far back enough, especially in the age of social media.

Difference being the level of scumbagness being committed by that wrestler. Like its one thing for a wrestler to simply be mean spirited towards someone(s) but its another when it starts to involve physical and mental abuse.

slik 06-18-2020 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corporate CockSnogger (Post 5352337)
Aren’t like 90% of wrestlers scumbags?

Probably...over time almost every wrestler seems to be some scumbag, massive carny or both

Outsider 06-18-2020 07:25 PM

British Wrestling stars accused of sexual assualt
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by From 411 Mania
The UK wrestling scene is the field today for a host of sexual misconduct allegations that have been levied against talent including NXT UK’s El Ligero, Mikey Whiplash and more. Several people have spoken out, apparently in the wake of the sexual abuse allegations against David Starr, accusing several people within the UK scene of various forms of misconduct.

Among the accusations are accusations by Natalie Sykes that El Ligero, who trained her, sexually harassed her on multiple instances. Sykes claims that Ligero began making sexual comments that mader her uncomfortable and while at first she tried to “laugh it off so he wouldn’t get mad at me,” the situation escalated to where he began trying to control her private relationships and psychoanalyze her relationship with her father. Sykes alleges that while doing this, Ligero “compared himself to being my father figure whilst also joking about sleeping with me.” She alleges that Ligero became verbally and mentally abusive to her and that it caused her considerable mental distress, noting, “I hate the person I was during that year and a half.” In a follow-up post, she shares a message from someone else who notes that Ligero did a similar thing to them.


Mikey Whiplash (not to be confused with ECW alum Mikey Whipwreck) is also facing accusations after several women released a statement through the @WrestlingNoContext Twitter account alleging that Whiplash has made unwanted sexual advances, sent unsolicited messages to female trainees and workers, gaslighted women and “even becoming physically violent with a number of women.” Whiplash was the promoter for Fierce Females, an all-women’s promotion in Scotland, who the women say is an unsafe environment due to Whiplash. NXT UK’s Piper Niven posted in support of these statements with an “It’s Time” message and noting, “I feel like we are all just waiting for someone else to go first. I’m scared too, I see you and I love you.”


Fierce Females’ co-owner Naveda Rose has posted in response to the allegations against Whiplash, noting at first, “I also own Fierce Females and this is obviously pretty deeply disturbing. I don’t want to silence anyone. This is the first I’m hearing this stuff, so I’m gonna start trying to see what is going on. This is obviously serious stuff and I don’t want an unsafe platform.” She followed up a few hours later noting that Whiplash is no longer part of Fierce Females, adding, “I take the voices and rights of women to have a safe platform incredibly seriously, so going forward I’ll be running it on my own.”


The allegations aren’t just being made by women. Both MJ Maxx and Jake Long have accused longtime referee James Finn of sexually harassing them. Maxx alleges that Finn harassed him in October of 2019, while Long says his experiences with Finn happened twice, both in 2017. Long’s are more specific, alleging that Finn tried to grope him when he thought Long was asleep.


Among the other allegations are claims by wrestler Gracie Lou Freebush that referee Marc “Paz” Perry has sent unwanted explicit pictures to herself and at least two other woman, and a lengthy thread by former ring announcer Lisa Gifford detailing various experiences of sexual harassment from talent and fans within the UK scene. Sierra Loxton has also alleged that Joe Coffey has sexually harrassed her as well as three other women by sending unsolicited nude photos and voice notes, as well as stalking them.


You can see the many posts about this below. NXT UK’s Pete Dunne has posted about the situation, noting that he is “disgusted by what I’m reading. Well done to those speaking out. I really hope we can make British wrestling a better place and keep everyone safe. This is a huge eye opener and let’s hope it will force a big change.”


Lots of names floating around on Twitter at the moment of prominent individuals in the British wrestling scene, including several signed to NXT UK, who are being accused of improper sexual conduct. Seems to be many cases from female wrestlers.


Have also seen tweets mentioning a list of 45 wrestlers, and have seen Will Ospreay mentioned as one of them.



Looks pretty bleak. Obviously thoughts to all those who have been affected, and certainly could be the end of a few careers after this.

Seanny One Ball 06-18-2020 08:07 PM

This would never have happened to the women of The World Of Sport era.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-18-2020 08:14 PM

Add Jimmy Havok to the shitty people pile. His ex posted a long disturbing post about her threatened her with harming himself to keep her in line.

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 08:17 PM

Current rumor going around the net is WWE is holding an emergency meeting over their NXT UK brand due to the growing number of accusations there.

Seems on the US side, Jake Hager and a writer from website Uproxx have popped up among those being accused. Also the longtime underage rumors involving Marty Scurll and Joey Ryan have resurfaced again.

Evil Vito 06-18-2020 08:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I made a very vague post yesterday about <a href="https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheJimCornette</a>.<br><br>In the face of current events I feel the need to clarify and speak up.<br><br>During my first year in the business, his wife, Stacy, attempted to groom me. /1</p>&mdash; AKI Evolution (@AKI_Evolution) <a href="https://twitter.com/AKI_Evolution/status/1273755945466806278?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

9-post thread claiming that Jim Cornette and his wife Stacey have forced talent to perform sexual acts on Stacey while Jim watched as a condition to getting OVW bookings.

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 08:41 PM

Joey Janela hinted at that rumor a couple months ago when him and Cornette were feuding online.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ve succeeded!!! Do I get a gift card? Atleast invite me to a hot tub party! Like the ones you and your wife used to have with the OVW boys?</p>&mdash; “The Bad Boy” Joey Janela (@JANELABABY) <a href="https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1241429131998437377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Also add Tyler Bate and NWA's David Lagana to the list of notable wrestling people currently being accused. Pete Dunne might be the only one out of British Strong Style who isn't a creep considering the past underage rumors with Trent Seven.

Vastardikai 06-18-2020 08:55 PM

You would think this would have come out MUCH sooner, considering how, you know, Corny is certainly hated by a notable portion of the audience.

And then there's the whole bit that, for the longest time, OVW was a feeder for the WWE. So maybe there's something to it not coming out sooner, or maybe it's just bullshit.

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2020 08:58 PM

Lol what the hell is happening!?!?!?!

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2020 09:00 PM

Memphis wrestling is getting pretty nervous right about now lol

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5352375)
You would think this would have come out MUCH sooner, considering how, you know, Corny is certainly hated by a notable portion of the audience.

And then there's the whole bit that, for the longest time, OVW was a feeder for the WWE. So maybe there's something to it not coming out sooner, or maybe it's just bullshit.

Mix of people not finding the courage to speak up at the time and Cornette not being shy to threaten legal action whenever he feels his name is being damaged.

The shady stuff with WWE's developmental system isn't new considering they turned a blind eye to the bad stuff Bill Demott was doing back then until it became too public to ignore. Plus Vince back then pretty much didn't really care what was going on in developmental as long as it produced him a couple new stars for the main roster each year. Only reason Cornette got fired back then was due to Vince and co. finding out Cornette physically attacked a trainee and could have been on the hook for a potential lawsuit.

Vastardikai 06-18-2020 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5352379)
Mix of people not finding the courage to speak up at the time and Cornette not being shy to threaten legal action whenever he feels his name is being damaged.

The shady stuff with WWE's developmental system isn't new considering they turned a blind eye to the bad stuff Bill Demott was doing back then until it became too public to ignore. Plus Vince back then pretty much didn't really care what was going on in developmental as long as it produced him a couple new stars for the main roster each year. Only reason Cornette got fired back then was due to Vince and co. finding out Cornette physically attacked a trainee and could have been on the hook for a potential lawsuit.

That is very plausible. At the same time, it's just something so specifically weird that you'd think that there would be certain folks who would have had no reason NOT to put on full blast (Santino hinted at some things to his face, as well). Between him, the little snide comments from Trash Canella, etc. You'd have thunk it would have been a huge thing to go with against such a relatively soft target.

Evil Vito 06-18-2020 09:23 PM

I think the combination of lockdown, Sierra Loxton not having to worry about losing bookings for it now that she's retired, and David Starr being a big enough name to really get the ball rolling, has been almost a perfect storm to make people finally feel comfortable to speak out.

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 09:49 PM

Yeah this being a "perfect storm" situation makes it a lot easier for people to feel comfortable going public and set in motion a tidal wave of accusations to roll in without someone being the sole focus of backlash. Without that storm, someone might be more hesitant out of fear in going public against someone who is more well known.

Same happened with the #MeToo movement where it took that first person or two to get the ball rolling for others to get the courage to stand up as well. Even the recent protests over the death of George Floyd quickly snowballed into a bigger movement over police brutality and racism.

slik 06-18-2020 09:55 PM

Is Kip Sabian still safe

Praying Kip is not really 'super bad'

slik 06-18-2020 09:55 PM

No bad stories about Finn either, whew

Triple A 06-18-2020 10:03 PM

Vaguely heard something about Jim Cornette having wrestlers have sex with his wife... don't feel like reading any details but I think it's fine if Cornette and his wife want her to be pounded by wrestlers if the wrestlers were in2 it !

slik 06-18-2020 10:10 PM

Horny Corny is my new nickname for James E's wife


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/kycyesH6pO">pic.twitter.com/kycyesH6pO</a></p>&mdash; AKI Evolution (@AKI_Evolution) <a href="https://twitter.com/AKI_Evolution/status/1273766407512240132?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 10:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And a fucking fantastic full roster of women, I should add.</p>&mdash; Alex Pawlowski (@AlexSourGraps) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexSourGraps/status/1273740323387248642?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 06-18-2020 10:21 PM

I'm now very interested to see if Cornette has anything to say about this on his podcast.

slik 06-18-2020 10:25 PM

Isn't there a story about the time Stacy Cornette got her vagina pierced and told OVW Brock Lesnar to be careful when picking her up for a gorilla slam and Brock thought it would be funny so he squeezed her vagina really hard when she was up in the air and she started crying because of intense vaginal pain from Brock's big squeeze??

I wonder if Jim Cornette ever asked Brock to fuck his wife while he watched.

slik 06-18-2020 10:34 PM

OVW Batista pounding Stacy Cornette while James E jerks off in a chair cutting a promo


https://i.postimg.cc/ZRn72qqF/download.jpg

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2020 10:37 PM

LMFAO @Slik

Anyways, if this ball keeps rolling I'm gonna throw out 2 names that'll get dragged through the mud:

Jim Ross. I dunno why but I just have the feeling. We've all heard him be a little creepy with the ladies on his podcast.

And Ric Flair but it's on-brand and I feel like everybody knows. But since it's a #MeToo thing, it'll be brought to light.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2020 10:41 PM

I wonder if Noid is going to go to great lengths defending his hero, Mr. Cornette. If so, I look forward to the mental gymnastics.

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 10:46 PM

Based on Ross' Twitter activity, he's gotten a lot more hornier ever since his wife died so I wouldn't be surprised at all if he did something inappropriate in recent times.

Like following him on Twitter for any length of time and your bound to get him casually posting his thirst over someone or flat out posting NSFW-like tweets and links.

Ryan Satin had a similar problem as well where he'd be tweeting or retweeting stuff to porn stars and not realizing everyone else could see it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2020 10:49 PM

lol JR promoted Sunny's porn business in a retweet w/comment.

slik 06-18-2020 10:52 PM

Jim Ross is hornier than a government toad

Vastardikai 06-18-2020 10:55 PM

Another one: Vince McMahon.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2020 10:56 PM

Vince has already been outed years ago but it didn't go anywhere probably because of McDevitt. Wonder if it will resurface.

slik 06-18-2020 10:57 PM

Yeah I think the last Vince one was around mid 2000s and involved a suntanning place

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2020 11:01 PM

It's almost pointless outing Vince because his reputation is already so bad and he'd just lawyer it away. Unless it was like Cosby, which is unlikely.

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 11:02 PM

Not sure if WWE should be happy or not that Carmella is randomly trending due to the dirt people found out about her although its way more tamer than the stuff going around elsewhere in wresting.

SPOILER: show
Carmella revealed in a recent Corey Graves podcast show that she enjoys getting golden showers.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2020 11:06 PM

hey there's nothing wrong with that. Re: Carmella's Kink

Other than that it's gross, but hey we all have our things.

slik 06-18-2020 11:12 PM

yeah, I don't care what Carmella's fetishes are.

I am not a fan of bodily fluids but I don't care if anyone else is. We all have our own fetishes.

Emperor Smeat 06-18-2020 11:18 PM

I just find it more funny than anything offensive or shameful considering everything that has gone down today and WWE probably praying nobody else associated with them trends on Twitter these next few days.

Triple A 06-18-2020 11:19 PM

Yeah going to become very bad if people start trying to ruin ppl's careers for things like that (re: Carmella)... Also nothing wrong with Jim Ross being a lil horny!!

Damian Rey 2.0 06-18-2020 11:41 PM

I hope that Lesnar story is true because it's fucking hilarious lol.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2020 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5352427)
I hope that Lesnar story is true because it's fucking hilarious lol.

Jim has told it

Evil Vito 06-18-2020 11:49 PM

Nothing wrong with Carmella's golden shower kink. I mean I don't get it but to each their own but if she's into it good for her.

As long as your kink doesn't involve kids, animals, or corpses...I don't give a fuck. To each their own.

Emperor Smeat 06-19-2020 12:03 AM

Carmella's story isn't even the most WTF thing I read about from wrestling this week that didn't involve someone being a scumbag or abusive person.

Zack Ryder had a recent story involving one of his very rare action figures that was a lot more WTF overall. Both in regards to why it was even made and what likely happened to it after he sold it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...he_80s_called/

Seanny One Ball 06-19-2020 01:06 AM

Now I have Jim Cornette watching fat Stacy getting ploughed from behind by The Mongolian Stomper waiting for the cum shot so he can shout "That's the biggest pop of the night!" stick in my head forever.

Pretty sure this was done to Bobby Eaton and that's why he was missing and confused for so long.

Seanny One Ball 06-19-2020 01:07 AM

Well Dunn probably got their name from spit roasting her

Seanny One Ball 06-19-2020 01:08 AM

And don't try telling me The Bullet didn't get up in there headfirst.
He's named after a dildo.

slik 06-19-2020 02:44 AM

Caught up (I think) on most of it now and damn

slik 06-19-2020 02:45 AM

Twitter Journalist Brandon Stroud added to the list too, like David Starr he was super 'pro-women' online but turns out that was a big act.

LibSuperstar 06-19-2020 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik
Caught up (I think) on most of it now and damn

Damn indeed!

erickman 06-19-2020 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5352368)
Current rumor going around the net is WWE is holding an emergency meeting over their NXT UK brand due to the growing number of accusations there.

Seems on the US side, Jake Hager and a writer from website Uproxx have popped up among those being accused. Also the longtime underage rumors involving Marty Scurll and Joey Ryan have resurfaced again.

yeah i see wwe selling nxt uk. is the hagar thing new or old?

Evil Vito 06-19-2020 07:33 AM

Matt Riddle now

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m posting this because I have been so sad for so long. I didn’t realize that what he did to me was not ok. I realize now, reading these other brave women’s stories, that I can’t be afraid anymore and I have to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/speakout?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#speakout</a></p>&mdash; Candy Cartwright (@CandyCartwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/CandyCartwright/status/1273896403941691392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#1-norm-fan 06-19-2020 08:20 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Helpful hint: I have been told that when you're faking screenshots of something that &quot;happened&quot; years ago, you shouldn't use the person's profile picture that's only been up a week and a half. It's the little things, but that's for attorneys to discuss.</p>&mdash; Jim Cornette (@TheJimCornette) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/1273943286399541253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 08:21 AM

Remember, Fan, Noid believes all victims. Cornette is guilty until proven innocent, as we learned when Enzo got dinged.

#1-norm-fan 06-19-2020 08:25 AM

Yeah. That Enzo argument kinda puts him between a rock and a hard place here.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5352475)
Yeah. That Enzo argument kinda puts him between a rock and a hard place here.

Oh, I'm going to assume we'll get a lot of wriggling with why this situation is different with Jim. Whereas if it was Kenny Omega and the claim seemed outlandish, it would be a sure thing that he was a rapist.

I could be wrong. We'll see.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 08:36 AM

As much as I like Cornette, I wouldn't be surprised if this shit was true. Think about the industry as a whole, and how this stuff seemed commonplace -- especially in Cornette's era.

First, you have Moolah. All the old-school guys like Corny and Bruce still won't acknowledge what she did, even though they're definitely well aware. You have commentators with the inside jokes in the 80s about "Terry Garvin's school of self defense." The Mel Phillips stuff and the Pat Patterson rumors. Grizzly Smith was a sexual predator, and people still talk about him glowingly unless they're Jake Roberts.

At the end of the day, if the casting couch stuff happened in Hollywood, how could it NOT be a thing in wrestling -- which has always proved seedier.

#1-norm-fan 06-19-2020 08:38 AM

I don’t know shit about this new-fangled technology but if you’re friends with someone on some kind of social media that’s linked to your phone contacts, does their picture in your contacts change if their profile picture changes? If so, the screenshots could have been taken recently and had her new picture. Though I can’t imagine those texts would still be just hanging out on his phone from the OVW days.

Also, who the fuck is this guy?

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 08:41 AM

I mean I understand the skepticism, but you do have to wonder what these people would have to gain. Like, do you really think someone would really lie in wait for wrestling #MeToo to strike with their fake texts? I guess it's possible, but damn that's some patience combined with a thirst for revenge over not getting booked the way you wanted

Again, I like Jim, so I hope it's untrue.

XL 06-19-2020 08:47 AM

Yeah, that’s wildly inaccurate from Cornette. Your phone doesn’t save the image from when the message was posted, in the same that if you now go back to posts I made 10 years ago on here it’d still show you my current name/avatar/post count/etc.

I’d suggest that those messages weren’t sent via text. They were sent through Facebook messenger, so it’s more than plausible that he went back through those conversations and took screen shots yesterday which would show the new profile pic.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 08:57 AM

Also, I feel there's definitely going to be some women lying or embellishing during all this, trying to leverage the situation. After all, this is the wrestling business and carnies gotta carny.

XL 06-19-2020 08:58 AM

Yeah, they were messenger messages. Apparently she deleted her Facebook, maybe hoping that would delete the messages, maybe to avoid hassle from the public. There’s a few more OVW people basically corroborating the events too.

XL 06-19-2020 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5352485)
Also, I feel there's definitely going to be some women lying or embellishing during all this, trying to leverage the situation. After all, this is the wrestling business and carnies gotta carny.

Does the industry change people in it, or just attract “wrong ‘uns”?

#1-norm-fan 06-19-2020 09:01 AM

Am I missing some details in those screenshots or do they just make Stacy seem like a piece of shit and have nothing to do with Cornette anyway?

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5352487)
Does the industry change people in it, or just attract “wrong ‘uns”?

At the end of the day, it's the entertainment business. I think it both attracts and churns out damaged people. I'd say at the top of the food chain is proper Hollywood movies and tv which is seedy enough. From there, you have wrestling and porn which I think are more similar than more wrestling fans would like to admit.

Savio 06-19-2020 09:20 AM

Matt Riddle is also being accused of sexual assault (On twitter)


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">incredibly uncomfortable in that setting ) When I said no, he grabbed me by my throat, choked me and said “what if I just made you?” I ended up giving him oral sex (praying someone wouldn’t wake up) to get out of having intercourse with him. It was incredibly humiliating.</p>&mdash; Candy Cartwright (@CandyCartwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/CandyCartwright/status/1273897703777406976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>

Corporate CockSnogger 06-19-2020 11:00 AM

Owenbrown touched my bumhole without permission

#speakout

Corporate CockSnogger 06-19-2020 11:04 AM

Surely only a matter of time before all the American guys start getting outed too.

Wouldn’t be surprised if at least 20 people currently in WWE get released for being a nonce/abusive

Corporate CockSnogger 06-19-2020 11:05 AM

Is Jerry Lawler still alive/not in prison? He’s gotta be number 1 nonce

Corporate CockSnogger 06-19-2020 11:06 AM

CM Punk comes across a bit rapey.

Sepholio 06-19-2020 11:21 AM

Jim Cucknette

James Steele 06-19-2020 11:24 AM

...Jerry Lawler is fucked.

Triple A 06-19-2020 12:32 PM

I merged the posts about this but now Vito's post is the thread starter cause it was the first one... I think he can change the title if he wants

Outsider 06-19-2020 01:18 PM

According to the BBC, police now investigating claims: https://twitter.com/jsavagetweets/st...238230018?s=21

Evil Vito 06-19-2020 01:36 PM

Lists so far:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SOList?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SOList</a> Part 2.<br>Correction to the previous tweet, should have said &quot;visually-impaired&quot; I had a brain fart, sorry!<br>Already seeing some things I need to add/correct so I will continue updating throughout the day.<br><br>Let's burn this shit down, then build a better community together. <a href="https://t.co/JlqrvAynH4">pic.twitter.com/JlqrvAynH4</a></p>&mdash; McDrea Kneels for #BlackLivesMatter �� (@McDreaBean) <a href="https://twitter.com/McDreaBean/status/1274028856295460864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A lot of frustration I see was about people saying names but not knowing the &quot;accusation.&quot; My list attempts to solve this issue but in no way is meant to treat one accusation lighter than another. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SOList?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SOList</a><br><br>NOTE: If you are sight-impaired please DM me and I'll send it in text! <a href="https://t.co/vIAQrigqsr">pic.twitter.com/vIAQrigqsr</a></p>&mdash; McDrea Kneels for #BlackLivesMatter �� (@McDreaBean) <a href="https://twitter.com/McDreaBean/status/1274027502747488256?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Black Widow 06-19-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5352418)
Not sure if WWE should be happy or not that Carmella is randomly trending due to the dirt people found out about her although its way more tamer than the stuff going around elsewhere in wresting.

SPOILER: show
Carmella revealed in a recent Corey Graves podcast show that she enjoys getting golden showers.

I heard the apparent clip that is being talked about dumbasses are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

xrodmuc316 06-19-2020 02:50 PM

I don't like to often go against the victims, but the Riddle acquisition is a different situation.

This girl was cheating willingly with a married man, posted some edited/cropped screenshots, and according to her, Riddle assaulted her while he was driving a van with 3 other wrestlers who were asleep. So while this assault is going on not a single one of them woke up?

No, she gave him a consensual blowjob because she didn't want to have sex with other people in the car, her words.

Also, she continued the relationship for up to a year after that??

I am sorry, even if it happened like she said, they continued to have a consensual relationship by all accounts well past that day. Just because dude ended the affair doesn't mean previous consensual acts are suddenly sexual assualt.

It's the same thing Chris Hardwick's ex tried, and AMC cleared him fairly quickly. Even if the act is degrading, if you are a willing participant you can't change your mind years after the fact.

I'm all for holding people accountable, but something being ok enough enough to do at the time, again her words, she choose to do one sexual act instead of another, should not be able to change after the fact cause dude wouldn't leave his wife for her.

XL 06-19-2020 03:27 PM

Did you skip past the bit where she claims he grabbed her by the throat?

XL 06-19-2020 03:28 PM

Can someone get Austin added to the list.

Savio 06-19-2020 03:37 PM

Austin only beat women, so unless he honked a titty while doing it, it is off topic!

XL 06-19-2020 03:46 PM

Isn’t Devlin on the list for “just” domestic violence?

xrodmuc316 06-19-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5352537)
Did you skip past the bit where she claims he grabbed her by the throat?

No, again maybe that was a part of their relationship. Why is it only an issue way after the fact. I know people don't come forward until later a lot of the time, but this was a man she continued seeing. It's just a much harder sell, they were in a relationship, then it was an issue only after it ended.

Savio 06-19-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5352548)
Isn’t Devlin on the list for “just” domestic violence?

Is there a full list I've only seen bits and pieces around... wonder if there is a wiki on this yet.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 04:07 PM

Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Mr. Nerfect 06-19-2020 04:15 PM

Wrestling has always evaded this sort of scrutiny. Probably a combination of it being filled with workers and going under the radar. Most of the names popping up don’t surprise me. Heartbroken if the Cornette stuff is true, but he’s apparently already on the phone to Stephen P. New, haha. I haven’t gone down the fill rabbit-hole, but the corroborating story comes from a guy with one or no legs who claims he was approached, turned them down, then headlined OVW shows. Is there someone else? Because it sounds like this guy wasn’t pressured into doing anything. His main beef seems to be that Cornette trashed legless wrestlers, but I actually seem to recall him putting over a guy named “Michael Hayes” who worked without legs because he was able to do so believable. Even sexual allegations misquote Cornette.

Mr. Nerfect 06-19-2020 04:16 PM

Joey Ryan was named somewhere, and can we talk for a moment about how getting paid employees to touch your dick publicly is very obviously shitty?

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-19-2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5352559)
Wrestling has always evaded this sort of scrutiny. Probably a combination of it being filled with workers and going under the radar. Most of the names popping up don’t surprise me. Heartbroken if the Cornette stuff is true, but he’s apparently already on the phone to Stephen P. New, haha. I haven’t gone down the fill rabbit-hole, but the corroborating story comes from a guy with one or no legs who claims he was approached, turned them down, then headlined OVW shows. Is there someone else? Because it sounds like this guy wasn’t pressured into doing anything. His main beef seems to be that Cornette trashed legless wrestlers, but I actually seem to recall him putting over a guy named “Michael Hayes” who worked without legs because he was able to do so believable. Even sexual allegations misquote Cornette.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Noid proving to be a shitty man.

XL 06-19-2020 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5352549)
No, again maybe that was a part of their relationship. Why is it only an issue way after the fact. I know people don't come forward until later a lot of the time, but this was a man she continued seeing. It's just a much harder sell, they were in a relationship, then it was an issue only after it ended.

There’s definitely “murky water” around some of these circumstances, and the “power dynamic” in relationships can lead to some questions being asked, as it is in a lot of these cases. Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you can just do wtf you like, some people end up in violent/abusive relationships for years before they conjure the courage to leave, or kill their partner, or often end up dead themselves before they get there.

Mr. Nerfect 06-19-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5352566)
There’s definitely “murky water” around some of these circumstances, and the “power dynamic” in relationships can lead to some questions being asked, as it is in a lot of these cases. Being in a relationship doesn’t mean you can just do wtf you like, some people end up in violent/abusive relationships for years before they conjure the courage to leave, or kill their partner, or often end up dead themselves before they get there.

Definitely very true. There are power dynamics in all sorts of relationships. There’s obviously domestic abuse and control, that sort of thing, but there are external power dynamics too. If you are an employer, you shouldn’t be having sex with employees. It’s just way too dicey. Fame also comes with power.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-19-2020 04:46 PM

Personally, I believe the wrestlers I like are being falsely accused and deserve to have their accusations face heavy scrutiny.

However, the wrestlers I don’t like absolutely did it and should be banned for life.

Thank you.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-19-2020 04:48 PM

And I join Slik in praying Kip and Finn make it through this unscathed.

Fandango too.

Mr. Nerfect 06-19-2020 04:48 PM

Investigate them all. But even if Joey Ryan turns out to be innocent, he should still be blackballed.

Mr. Nerfect 06-19-2020 04:50 PM

Fandango is pure, concentrated sex, so I’m not sure if he can even be put on trial for human crimes.

Triple A 06-19-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5352473)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Helpful hint: I have been told that when you're faking screenshots of something that &quot;happened&quot; years ago, you shouldn't use the person's profile picture that's only been up a week and a half. It's the little things, but that's for attorneys to discuss.</p>&mdash; Jim Cornette (@TheJimCornette) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/1273943286399541253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Even if a message is years old, it would show the person's current profile pic if you view it today

XL 06-19-2020 05:00 PM

We already covered that Trips. C’mon man!


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