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slik 07-13-2020 07:13 PM

RAW - 7.13.20
 
RAW

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 08:03 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tonight is when we reveal that at Extreme Rules <a href="https://twitter.com/reymysterio?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@reymysterio</a> will face Seth Rollins while dressed as pirates in an Aye-for-an-Aye match <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAWTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1282767785941176320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rez 07-13-2020 08:17 PM

This place is popping

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:17 PM

Charley is the most beautiful woman in WWE since Elizabeth. I want to watch her cute smile for the next three hours. Let's just have a show where the wrestlers try to charm Charley and I'll probably watch most of it. Unlike this show which has a lifeline of at most an hour for me.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 08:18 PM

Poor Garza, all those weeks trying to hook up with Charly Caruso and all it took was one glance from Ivar for her to instantly fall in love with him instead.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 08:28 PM

Did WWE mess up the crowd audio for this match?

Sounds like they are piping in fake noise while also keeping the mics on for the actual crowd. Don't think they did both at the same time before for these PC shows.

erickman 07-13-2020 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5358377)
Poor Garza, all those weeks trying to hook up with Charly Caruso and all it took was one glance from Ivar for her to instantly fall in love with him instead.

so the wwe women are chub chassers like mandy.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 08:34 PM

:eek: at Bianca suddenly showing up on RAW again.

Hopefully this time she lasts longer than a couple of weeks on the show.

slik 07-13-2020 08:47 PM

Rtruth cracks me up

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:47 PM

I love R-Truth.

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:49 PM

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: I love this Tozawa ninja gimmick. Two R-Truth matches in one Raw? Awesome!

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 08:53 PM

Wait ... Truth has been 24/7 champ 37 times already?

That's kind of crazy considering the belt is barely over a year old.

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:55 PM

Bianca was f'n awesome btw.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 08:56 PM

Bit of a lame promo by Baszler.

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:56 PM

It took about 20 seconds and I know Vince is already canceling Shayna again.

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:57 PM

She should just beat people up and put them in submission holds, never speak. She is horrible at talking.

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:57 PM

EYE 4 EYE

Honestly I am really excited to see what WWE does with the reported CGI/special FX they have in store for this gimmick match.

erickman 07-13-2020 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5358411)
It took about 20 seconds and I know Vince is already canceling Shayna again.

unless they are signing tessa, and want her for that.

slik 07-13-2020 08:58 PM

would be funny if a CGI eye was thrown at the camera in 3D

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:59 PM

Buddy vs Black, that will make things worth sticking around for. I'm sure Seth will challenge that during his promo next.

slik 07-13-2020 08:59 PM

booyaka booyaka six one eye

Jordan 07-13-2020 08:59 PM

WWE should start shifting into CGI death matches, maybe that's what we are going to see at The Horror Show: Extreme Rules!

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5358416)
EYE 4 EYE

Honestly I am really excited to see what WWE does with the reported CGI/special FX they have in store for this gimmick match.

Supposedly the current rumor for the CGI finish is

SPOILER: show
The winner yanks the loser's eyeball out soo hard that its just dangling from the socket.

Also supposedly it won't be a bloody mess style spot like something you'd see from a Mortal Kombat game.

Jordan 07-13-2020 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5358424)
Supposedly the current rumor for the CGI finish is

SPOILER: show
The winner yanks the loser's eyeball out soo hard that its just dangling from the socket.

Also supposedly it won't be a bloody mess style spot like something you'd see from a Mortal Kombat game.

I don't know what to expect! Can't wait though lol.

slik 07-13-2020 09:11 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are many adult fans who have no memories of a WWE without Dolph Ziggler</p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1282841931853307904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 09:16 PM

That's kind of eerie considering how true it is.

Like lets say a person started watching wrestling at 5-6 years old, they'd be 20-21 now with Ziggler around for almost that whole time.

slik 07-13-2020 09:18 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dolph Ziggler debuted in WWE before YouTube existed</p>&mdash; Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1282845574010634245?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 07-13-2020 09:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A T-Mobile commercial advertising a seniors discount being aired during <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a> is pretty hilarious tbh.</p>&mdash; Nic (@FORTY2YAM) <a href="https://twitter.com/FORTY2YAM/status/1282848729226256384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 09:32 PM

WWE legit might be playing the same crowd reaction audio clip on a loop during this Owens vs. Rollins match.

rez 07-13-2020 09:33 PM

Next it's AARP :p

RP 07-13-2020 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5358424)
Supposedly the current rumor for the CGI finish is

SPOILER: show
The winner yanks the loser's eyeball out soo hard that its just dangling from the socket.

Also supposedly it won't be a bloody mess style spot like something you'd see from a Mortal Kombat game.

Well fuck... I might have to subscribe for this train wreck.

rez 07-13-2020 09:40 PM

rly surprised they didn't re retire the stomp

slik 07-13-2020 09:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They should have done a Sack-rifice match there the loser gets their BALLSACK RIPPED OFF <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheHorrorShow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheHorrorShow</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1282852885668257792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rez 07-13-2020 09:44 PM

Ric has some good points.

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 09:44 PM

Eye for an Eye is fucking stupid.

The Miz has been on WWE TV for even longer than Dolph Ziggler. He appeared in 2004 as part of Tough Enough. He’s been there for 76% of SmackDown’s duration as a show. Miz debuted 16 years ago. 16 years before that the Mega Powers hadn’t exploded yet.

slik 07-13-2020 09:46 PM

Rey should show up on Dynamite next week and throw his eyeball in the trash

rez 07-13-2020 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5358444)
Eye for an Eye is fucking stupid.

The Miz has been on WWE TV for even longer than Dolph Ziggler. He appeared in 2004 as part of Tough Enough. He’s been there for 76% of SmackDown’s duration as a show. Miz debuted 16 years ago. 16 years before that the Mega Powers hadn’t exploded yet.

It's depressing to think how much further back Real World/Road Rules and the challenge shows were.. :|

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 09:47 PM

The WWE should just cut everyone that made their debut prior to 2010. Especially now that AEW is not a threat. The guys probably worth keeping from that batch are Brock, Orton, Rey and Edge, but you could go on without them.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5358442)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">They should have done a Sack-rifice match there the loser gets their BALLSACK RIPPED OFF <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheHorrorShow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheHorrorShow</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1282852885668257792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Should have done that for the Nakamura vs. Styles feud a couple years ago considering the amount of nut shots it had.

Jordan 07-13-2020 09:47 PM

Good scene from Show & Flair.

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 09:52 PM

Ric Flair vs. Christian should be a CGI match at Mania next year. Heat from when Christian asked Tomko to “escort Mr. Flair out of my office.”

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 09:53 PM

Wrestling is so stupid now, they should have a mad inventor show up and claim he can put wrestlers’ DNA into a computer so they can enter an avatar of themselves in their perfect form. Christian vs. Flair, I’m telling you.

rez 07-13-2020 10:00 PM

Truth in every hour of Raw tonight lol

Jordan 07-13-2020 10:00 PM

Wrestling may not be as good as it used to be but Steve Harvey's Family Feud is by far the funniest ever.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 10:07 PM

99 combined title reigns for the 24/7 title in a little over a year is pretty crazy.

For some comparison, decided to look up what the old Hardcore title did back in the day and it only had 13 reigns during its first year plus some change. That belt didn't start going crazy with tossing out reigns left and right until WrestleMania 2000.

slik 07-13-2020 10:07 PM

Is Show vs Orton not an HORROR SHOW EXTREME RULES match?

slik 07-13-2020 10:08 PM

Cedric doesn't need a mouthpiece so I bet the twist is Ricochet turns heel w/ MVP as his mouthpiece

Jordan 07-13-2020 10:09 PM

Orton is really fantastic. Really stepped up his game this year.

Jordan 07-13-2020 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5358457)
Is Show vs Orton not an HORROR SHOW EXTREME RULES match?

It seemed like it could be an Unsanctioned match next week, meaning Raw? Am I confused?

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5358459)
Orton is really fantastic. Really stepped up his game this year.

Him and Asuka arguably have been the MVPs of the RAW brand since the the start of the empty arena shows period.

Jordan 07-13-2020 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5358462)
Him and Asuka arguably have been the MVPs of the RAW brand since the the start of the empty arena shows period.

Arguably inarguably.

slik 07-13-2020 10:16 PM

I would say Sasha/Bayley probably the MVPs of brand blue PC era

Jordan 07-13-2020 10:17 PM

MVP is also a slight game changer lately. He's really playing his role to perfection.

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5358456)
99 combined title reigns for the 24/7 title in a little over a year is pretty crazy.

For some comparison, decided to look up what the old Hardcore title did back in the day and it only had 13 reigns during its first year plus some change. That belt didn't start going crazy with tossing out reigns left and right until WrestleMania 2000.

The 24/7 rule for the Hardcore Title didn't kick in until early 2000. There were 56 title changes over the course of a year when it kicked in. They only did two house show changes in 2000. When they started doing changes on house shows, it moved around a lot more often. That's how Raven ended up a 27-time champion and you got 240 champions by the end of August 2002.

Neither the 24/7 Title nor the Hardcore Title is supposed to be prestigious. The gimmick of it is that it changes hands all the time and is mindless stupidity for talk shows, public appearances, house shows, etc. I don't give a shit about it and wouldn't have done it, but R-Truth is basically the Crash Holly of this era. His performance as champion is not supposed to be graded next to Mr. Perfect's IC Title reign.

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 10:19 PM

So much for Shayna being ordered from TV.

slik 07-13-2020 10:20 PM

MVP definitely fits the Paul Heyman role well

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 10:20 PM

MVP has been surprisingly good from what I've seen. The bits I've seen of Bobby Lashley have really shown improvement in him as an overall worker too. Apollo Crews has been stepping up too. Not to the point he's an MVP or anything, but he's clearly trying to put all the pieces together and be worthy of his US Title position.

Jordan 07-13-2020 10:20 PM

LOL @ Smeat analysis of 24/7 Title Stats.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 10:22 PM

This Ricochet vs. Lashley match was pretty much the same routine as their match a couple weeks ago except this time being shorter in length.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5358466)
I would say Sasha/Bayley probably the MVPs of brand blue PC era

Yeah those two and Otis have been the only real consistent bright spots about Smackdown in recent months.

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 10:27 PM

Sasha & Bayley absolutely suck on the mic. Somehow, Sasha still manages to shine as a star, but they need to let her cut more organic promos or give her a manager herself. I'd be fine with MVP with her too. That would fit.

Otis fucking sucks. I didn't mind him in a tag team match I saw, but his presentation outside that is fucking awful and the dream sequence bullshit is as stupid as anything on AEW (well, almost -- at least I can buy Otis and Mandy being goofs and agreeing to dream sequence shoots as a lark). They don't even give you enough skimpy Mandy outfits in it. A fucking waste.

The wrestling is the highlight of SmackDown. The best in-ring stuff you get from any American promotion -- Bryan, Cesaro, Nakamura, New Day, Gulak, Gable and Morrison bringing the goods.

slik 07-13-2020 10:27 PM

main event getting lots of time

Mr. Nerfect 07-13-2020 10:29 PM

I've actually been really impressed with Apollo Crews, but I'd be totally fine with Sasha Banks beating Asuka and Bobby Lashley beating Apollo Crews after subbing from MVP to become champs on Raw.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 10:31 PM

Why does the ad for Extreme Rules have a random roar from a leopard or some other wild cat included?

Doesn't really fit with the "Horror Show" tag line they've been building up considering the Swamp Fight and eyeball pulling matches.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 10:58 PM

:lol: at Bayley randomly standing right in front of Asuka and Sasha and not even bothering to break up the submission because Kairi wasn't ready for the counter spot.

Made Bayley look extra dumb.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 11:05 PM

Finish was whatever but Women's Tag title match was very good overall.

RAW itself was decent to pretty good overall. Didn't really drag like most RAWs in recent weeks but that first hour was mostly forgettable. Outside of the Women's Tag title match, the matches tonight were mostly forgettable while the story stuff was mostly good in general.


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