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Supreme Olajuwon 06-17-2021 09:21 PM

TPWW’S TOP TEN: TALKERS. FINAL LIST REVEALED!
 
Alright folks we haven’t had a good game thread on here since the Better Wrestler series was discontinued (thanks a lot Destor). So what we’re gonna do here is every week we’re going to have a wrestling specific category and I’m going to ask for your top 10 names for that category. You’ll give me your Top Ten nominations unranked and in no particular order. We’ll compile the lists and come up with “TPWW’S TOP TEN” for the week. One nomination equals one point. Top Ten nominees win.


Our inaugural question: Who are the Top Ten Talkers in wrestling history?

Jordan 06-17-2021 09:41 PM

Chris Jericho
Ric Flair
Dusty Rhodes
Mick Foley
Steve Austin
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Bobby Heenan
Shawn Michaels
Paul Heyman

I did a quick dive of the mind and that's who I've come up with. I left off a few like Savage, Funk and Jake just because I have preferences for others.

Bad News Gertner 06-17-2021 10:07 PM

Flair
Hogan
Dusty
Terry Funk
Piper
Austin
Bockwinkel
Muraco
Heenan
Foley

Supreme Olajuwon 06-17-2021 10:08 PM

If they exist in wrestling, they are eligible to be nominated

RP 06-17-2021 10:11 PM

Piper
Flair
Stone Cold
Rock
Macho Man
Shane Douglas
Dusty Rhodes
Jeff Jarrett
Bray Wyatt
Ted Dibiase

Ruien 06-17-2021 10:33 PM

The Rock
Kurt Angle
Flair
HHH
Bray Wyatt
Stone Cold
Kurt Angle
Kurt Angle
Kurt Angle
Piper
Kurt Angle

Triple A 06-17-2021 11:04 PM

I liked these guys, that I can remember!

Stone Cold
Ric Flair
Roddy Piper
The Rock
Randy Savage
Vince McMahon
Chris Jericho
Bobby Heenan
Scott Steiner
Kurt Angle

Lock Jaw 06-17-2021 11:14 PM

Chris Jericho
Christian
Ric Flair
The Rock
Eddie Guerrero
Kurt Angle
Macho Man
JBL
Ultimate Warrior
Charlotte Flair (token female inclusion)

xrodmuc316 06-17-2021 11:38 PM

In no particular order

John Cena
Kevin Owens
CM Punk
Chris Jericho
Stone Cold
Mick Foley
Miz
Rock
Kurt Angle
Ric Flair

RP 06-18-2021 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5460075)
In no particular order

John Cena
Kevin Owens
CM Punk
Chris Jericho
Stone Cold
Mick Foley
Miz
Rock
Kurt Angle
Ric Flair

That list is mostly shit, but I may give Miz some credit. The Miz actually has been incredible on the mic. It's hard to deny that. Punk was ok. Jericho was ok. Angle was great but tbh, I would actually put Miz over them. He's actually been consistently great in a era that is consistently terrible. LOL

Destor 06-18-2021 12:40 AM

i love better wrestler but booking it effectively requires REALLY knowin the boards taste. takes a ton of effort to not have 50 million guys in the hall...gotta protect the title or it doesnt mean anything...just look at better tag team...trash...

Destor 06-18-2021 12:44 AM

1. Ric Flair
2. Vince McMahon
3. Mic Foley
4. Jim Cornette
5. Bobby Heenan
6. Steve Austin
7. Dusty Rhodes
8. Jerry Lawler
9. Terry Funk
10. Jesse Ventura

Fignuts 06-18-2021 12:58 AM

Jake Roberts
William Regal
Ric Flair
Paul Heyman
Jim Cornette
Bobby Heenan
John Cena
Ernie Ladd
Mick Foley
Jumpin' Jeff Farmer

TNARICK1 06-18-2021 02:10 AM

TNARICK

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Vince Russo
Mike Sanders
Glen Gilberti
Booker T
Jeff Jarrett
The Cat
Sonny Siaki
Mark Madden
Positively Kanyon
Raven

Rammsteinmad 06-18-2021 06:35 AM

CM Punk
Chris Jericho
The Rock
John Cena
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman
Kurt Angle
Steve Austin
Sting
Ric Flair

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2021 07:24 AM

The Rock
Steve Austin
Terry Funk
Dusty Rhodes
Ric Flair
Jerry Lawler
Jim Cornette
Bobby Heenan
Roddy Piper
Vince McMahon

James Steele 06-18-2021 09:17 AM

The Rock
Shawn Michaels
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Chris Jericho
CM Punk
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman
Vince McMahon
Ric Flair
Triple H

#1-norm-fan 06-18-2021 09:20 AM

Jim Cornette
Steve Austin
Ric Flair
Dusty Rhodes
The Rock
Hulk Hogan
Roddy Piper
Bobby Heenan
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman

Evil Vito 06-18-2021 09:28 AM

Bobby Heenan
Chris Jericho
Dusty Rhodes
Jake Roberts
Mick Foley
Paul Heyman
Randy Savage
Ric Flair
The Rock
Roddy Piper

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2021 11:22 AM

I'm probably gonna change my mind 20 times

Seanny One Ball 06-18-2021 01:07 PM

The Rock
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Mankind
Ric Flair
Kurt Angle
Bobby Heenan
Jerry Lawler
David Schultz
Vince McMahon
Macho Man Randy Savage

Fuck Hulk

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2021 01:35 PM

Interesting to see Randy Savage on here so much. I've never thought of Randy as a "promo" guy.

Fignuts 06-18-2021 01:43 PM

I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.

Fignuts 06-18-2021 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5460130)
Interesting to see Randy Savage on here so much. I've never thought of Randy as a "promo" guy.

I thought about it, until I remembered his wrestlemania 9 commentary.

YEAH DO THE THING

Evil Vito 06-18-2021 01:45 PM

My list is in alphabetical order but Savage was my 10th one on and I was considering like 5 other guys in that spot. Tough call.

#1-norm-fan 06-18-2021 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5460133)
I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.

I struggled for a second between him and Heyman for the last spot.

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2021 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5460134)
I thought about it, until I remembered his wrestlemania 9 commentary.

YEAH DO THE THING

It's weird that so many wrestlers who were great at promos completely suck in commentary.

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2021 02:13 PM

Randy Savage on promos is just a slightly more coherent Ultimate Warrior

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2021 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5460133)
I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.

I thought Jim Cornette would be appearing on more’s list, considering he actually drew money with his mouth, and even currently hosts podcasts that, in a week, are probably listened to by as many people as watch AEW.

Chris Jericho is the name popping up that surprises me. Like, he’s not bad. It’s not that he’s bad or anything, but top ten ALL TIME?

Lock Jaw 06-18-2021 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5460140)
Randy Savave on promos is just a slightly more coherent Ultimate Warrior

I included both Savage and Warrior on my list because... I can actually remember them. Others might be better talkers like Jake and Piper, but... overall I don't really remember what they have said... 1

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2021 03:14 PM

I loved Ultimate Warrior and thinks he gets far too much crap

Seanny One Ball 06-18-2021 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5460140)
Randy Savave on promos is just a slightly more coherent Ultimate Warrior


Same energy but far greater content and delivery.

There’s a promo Macho Man does where he says he has a new pair of pink boots on and he’s going to kick out somebody’s Cadillac window.

Great shit man.

Seanny One Ball 06-18-2021 03:50 PM

Rowdy Roddy Piper is so overrated it’s not even remotely understandable to me.

I really don’t get the love.

Seanny One Ball 06-18-2021 03:51 PM

Ah fuck I just realised David Schultz should have been in my list.

Gonna swap someone out.

Seanny One Ball 06-18-2021 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5460133)
I'm surprised only Vito and I picked Roberts. I figured he'd be a shoe in for everyone's lists.



He bored me as a kid with all of that archaic language he used.
He sounded like a religious education teacher.

Fignuts 06-18-2021 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5460158)
Rowdy Roddy Piper is so overrated it’s not even remotely understandable to me.

I really don’t get the love.

He has a unique style, but most of his promos don't actually say anything and come off as a bunch of rambling nonsense to me.

OssMan 06-18-2021 05:17 PM

R truth
The Rock

#1-norm-fan 06-18-2021 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5460159)
Ah fuck I just realised David Schultz should have been in my list.

Gonna swap someone out.

That’s an open-handed swap.

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2021 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5460158)
Rowdy Roddy Piper is so overrated it’s not even remotely understandable to me.

I really don’t get the love.

Piper pre WM3 is fantastic.

Piper post WM3 is one of the most unwatchable wrestlers around besides the Bret feud in 92.

Jordan 06-18-2021 06:43 PM

Jake was great for sure but his best promos are all similar, even if they are great the lack of diversity keeps him off my list.

Piper said something that confused me as kid so much that it still plagues my mind to this day. "AND IM A LESBIAN". was Piper confused? I am.

Vince probably should have made my list but it's okay to leave him off, he has delivered a lot of bad segments in his time.

Macho and Warrior are in a similar position for me, awesome but incoherent.

Jericho is a shoe in, he constantly gets better and is still topping himself in AEW. His face turn promo earlier this year had me marking out like it was 98.

Jordan 06-18-2021 06:44 PM

I almost out Cena on my list because he out promoed The Rock in their program but he has too many cookie cutter be promos for my taste.

Blonde Moment 06-18-2021 06:51 PM

The Rock
Bobby Heenan
Jim Cornette
Paul Heyman
Ric Flair
Jerry Lawler
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Jesse Ventura
Hulk Hogan
The Miz/Jake The Snake

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2021 06:58 PM

I wanted to include Heyman and Ventura, just didn’t have room. I wish I had a better gauge on Bockwinkel too.

Lists fucking suck.

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2021 07:00 PM

You know what would be better? A Top Talkers series of threads where a top talker gets discussed, their stuff shared, business metrics can be discussed, and people can share their thoughts and memories of the talker.

Bad News Gertner 06-18-2021 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5460200)
I wanted to include Heyman and Ventura, just didn’t have room. I wish I had a better gauge on Bockwinkel too.

Lists fucking suck.

Soooo good


Destor 06-18-2021 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5460201)
You know what would be better? A Top Talkers series of threads where a top talker gets discussed, their stuff shared, business metrics can be discussed, and people can share their thoughts and memories of the talker.

i like this. or just a deep dive thread going into what made X great. wrestler spot light

Destor 06-18-2021 08:28 PM

or even in some cases why wasnt X more successful. what held so and so back

Supreme Olajuwon 06-18-2021 08:34 PM

It sucks that you’re not allowed to make those threads so all you can do is complain


We need true freedom on the forums

Destor 06-18-2021 09:39 PM

but i dont wanna

DAMN iNATOR 06-18-2021 09:57 PM

For those including Hogan, allow me to retort:


Supreme Olajuwon 06-18-2021 10:00 PM

If anyone has an topics they would like to see utilized in the TPWW TOP TEN feel free to shoot me a PM or leave a comment in a rep (positive or negative, dealer’s choice, chief).

weather vane 06-18-2021 10:20 PM

You said 15 yeah?

Ric Flair
Jimmy Garvin
The Rock
Steve Austin
Bobby Heenan
Dusty Rhodes
Jake Roberts
Paul Heyman
Shane Douglas
Randy Savage
Tully Blanchard
Hulk Hogan
Arn Anderson
Jesse Ventura
Chris Jericho

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2021 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5460221)
It sucks that you’re not allowed to make those threads so all you can do is complain


We need true freedom on the forums

Of course I can, but I don’t want to, and totally reserve the right to say that someone should.

fundiddle 06-20-2021 12:49 PM

king
jr
mean gene
roddy piper
corny
jesse ventura
gorilla monsoon
bobby heenan
the fink
todd pettengill

Blonde Moment 06-20-2021 01:38 PM

gorilla monsoon was an excellent choice. The banter between him and Heenan was the best part of the shows

Seanny One Ball 06-20-2021 02:24 PM

Gorilla Monsoon was pretty bad...

“Oh PLEASE!”

As entertaining as a Bundy match and actually more predictable.

fundiddle 06-20-2021 02:30 PM

WILL YOU STOP!?

Mr. Nerfect 06-21-2021 12:05 PM

I think Gorilla is more of a beloved presence than an all-time great talker.

Seanny One Ball 06-21-2021 06:04 PM

That’s a nicer way to say it

Big Vic 06-22-2021 09:17 AM

Probably not top 10 worthy but I remember thinking Wade Barrett was going places when he first debuted on Raw.

weather vane 06-22-2021 10:27 AM

Well I got bad news for ya..

Sepholio 06-22-2021 01:03 PM

No particular order

The brain
Terry funk
Heyman
Ric flair
Ventura
Mean gene
Bray
Stone cold
The rock
Jericho

#1-norm-fan 06-22-2021 05:40 PM

I think Bray Wyatt, purely as a talker and especially for his era, is fucking incredible. I just couldn’t consider him for the top 10 because the lack of longevity and the lack of impact that the era has afforded his promos.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-25-2021 11:24 AM

TPWW'S TOP TEN TALKERS: THE FINAL LIST
 
<s>Ladies and</s> Gentlemen, we've tallied up your votes to determine who you, the TPWW masses, believe are the best talkers in wrestling history. 199 votes were cast and a whopping 57 different people were nominated, speaking to rich history of trunk wearing talkers. All were men and all speak English. Go figure. We've compiled the top ten vote getters and we're ready to reveal who are TPWW'S TOP TEN TALKERS!

10. Coming in at Number 10, it's... a tie! Which technically means these two men are actually coming in together at number 9! Which is a great way to start a top 10 list!

But I'm not worried about it, because this tie is an All-American tie. First, we have the American Dream, it's


Followed by a true American hero, Your Olympic Hero, it's


7.Alright, now that we've got the ties out of the way, coming in at number 7 is... another tie. God dammit. Coming in at number 7 is a guy who claims he's the best in the world at what he does, but according to you guys he's only tied for 7th best at it, it's


And also coming in at number 7, the man who as soon as you know the answer, he changes the question, which I believe is cheating, it's

6. Ladies and Gentlemen, our number 6 entry is our 1st manager to appear on our list, and also our 1st advocate, it's


5.Our number 5 entry on the list is a man of many faces, and all of those faces can cut one hell of a promo, it's


4. Our number 4 entry always wowed us on the mic, and whether as a manager or commentator, in WWF or WCW, he always managed to weasel his way into our hearts, it's


3.Coming in at number 3, it's a man so popular, so captivating, so charming, so authentic, so beloved that you forget that he created a catchphrase that single handedly ruined everybody else's promos for the next 20 years, it's


2. We're down to our final 2, and after reading this list you probably have a good idea of who the top 2 talkers in wrestling are. But you're not sure of the order. Who do you think is at number 2? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!. Coming in at number 2 is


1. And finally, our number 1 wrestling talker of all time as chosen by you, TPWW, is of course





Thank you to everyone who voted. Did we get it right? Did we get it wrong? Let us know.

A new topic will be posted shortly.

Bad News Gertner 06-25-2021 11:26 AM

Wow, Hogan didn't make it

And Dusty should be higher.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-25-2021 11:32 AM

Hogan was 15th

Fignuts 06-25-2021 02:17 PM

Rock should be lower. He's great, no doubt, but a lot of his promos were just repeating the same catch phrases. Feel like there were other people who were better at grabbing people's emotions and selling the audience on whatever feud they were in.

Seanny One Ball 06-26-2021 01:17 PM

Where’s Jumpin’ Jeff Farmer at?!

Mr. Nerfect 06-26-2021 03:53 PM

Pretty shit list, to be honest. TPWW sucks when it comes to having good opinions. There are better promos who have legitimately made money that have been left off this list. How the fuck is Jericho better than Dusty Rhodes?

#1-norm-fan 06-26-2021 05:36 PM

Yup

#1-norm-fan 06-26-2021 05:40 PM

If people are being sticklers for the wording though, Rock could definitely be considered one of the greatest talkers but not nearly top 10 at cutting a promo.

Lock Jaw 06-26-2021 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5461334)
Pretty shit list, to be honest. TPWW sucks when it comes to having good opinions. There are better promos who have legitimately made money that have been left off this list. How the fuck is Jericho better than Dusty Rhodes?

Because this isn't an "objective" list, and most people here probably haven't seen too much Dusty?

#1-norm-fan 06-26-2021 06:27 PM

We kinda take “Austin 3:16” as just a simple catchphrase that caught on nowadays but saying “Talk about your Psalms, talk about your John 3:16. Austin 3:16 says I just whipped your ass.” to a guy with a “reborn Christian” gimmick is so fucking good. What other catchphrase can be pinpointed to a specific promo? And then he was able to evolve from that. I couldn’t have been mad if Austin had won this.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-26-2021 06:57 PM

For those of you wondering, 60% of Noid’s nominations made the final Top Ten which he calls a “pretty shit list”

Noid doesn’t hate wrestling, he just hates himself.

Lock Jaw 06-26-2021 08:26 PM

Don't hate the player... hate the game!

Evil Vito 06-26-2021 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5461352)
For those of you wondering, 60% of Noid’s nominations made the final Top Ten which he calls a “pretty shit list”

Noid doesn’t hate wrestling, he just hates himself.

LMAO I’d bet $20 he wouldn’t have cared about Jericho’s placement on the list if he was never involved in AEW

Destor 06-29-2021 05:15 PM

tpww got #1 right so im good with this list


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