Chris Jericho hospitalized in Swansea
 

The venue Fozzy were set to play at tonight put out the following statement:

Can be any number of things but if he's still trying to live the "rockstar lifestyle" on tour I hope he didn't hospitalize himself from hitting the bottle too hard.

Does he, or anyone think it’s wise for a 50 plus human being to be living the rockstar style life at all, after living a god damn wrestlers life for 30 years?

It became even more absurd after I typed it.

Hope he's ok.

Concerning. When you think about the illness performers battle through to do their things and the mess this would have left on the table, it does make you wonder if there’s more to the story. I’ve been saying for a while that someone close to Jericho might need to step in.

sometimes you can fake it til you make it... even to the er. could have been anything

The fact that he doesn’t get blown up even quicker than he does given his age and his love of the sauce is pretty impressive. He’s got that Mickey Mantle gene.

You have got to feel like if it was WWE, someone would have had a word with him about how bloated and unhealthy he looks.

It’s a worry that he is pretty much unchecked in AEW and doesn’t properly respond to anyone. It’s not good for someone as impulsive and prideful (judging from his books) as Jericho.

Vince was able to cut him down and keep him in line and eager to please. His ego and excesses are out of control in AEW.

Excellent post. :y:

Jericho’s updates have been eerie. He told Dave the hospital just wanted to observe him overnight and he’s “in the right place.” And he posted a picture of himself in London saying “back on the streets.”

I dunno. Something seems off. Like he’s reassuring people he’s fine without stating what the hell actually happened.

which is fine because its no one's business

He’s the one sharing it while being vague. He had a show canceled on ticket holders as a public figure. He’s allowed to be private about certain matters, but it doesn’t make them any less eerie.

Its absolutely the culture of AEW. Tony Khan lets them do whatever they want. Aside from Jericho, Omega and Moxley also got bloated. Moxley got rehab. Matt Hardy just gets to call off doctors with a severe concussion. Lance Archer was allowed to do moonsaults as a mid forties 6'6" 275 pounder who is lucky he isnt paralyzed.

All that is because the owner would rather people like him then protect his employees.

Or because he realizes that they're not legally employees and he doesn't treat them like employees...

Let me know when he's not a complete hypocritical phony who doesn't consistently require them to act as legal employees while consistently legally claiming they're independent contractors.

Chris Jericho got another world championship run in him.

Lmaoooo at xrod blaming Tony khan for wrestlers having substance abuse issues. Jesus Christ. Going with that logic Vice has a laundry list of wrestlers who’ve battled addiction, injuries, wrestling with known concussions, wrestling while sick, and being in angles that won’t help their substance abuse issues (putting it on air as an angle that Jake Roberts was a recovering alcoholic and making drunk jokes about it on commentary). Fucking please. These are grown men. They make their own personal decisions. Unless it’s get stated somewhere, we have zero idea how much khan knew if he knew anything about Moxley’s issues.

And Jericho was fat and bloated in new Japan. Why are we trying to pretend it was only in AEW that he suddenly blew up?

The culture enables them. Jericho would have gotten a tap on the shoulder long ago for the excessive and publicized drinking. His physical decline would have had people stepping in somewhere at some level, concerned for the guy outside the level of being a mark for his work from 1998-2008.

Going down the path you’re going is irrelevant and cunty. It’s got nothing to do with being an employee or independent contractor, and hiding like a pussy behind that. It’s about not paying someone seven figures to fucking destroy themselves for you.

Jericho isn't fat and bloated he's been bulking season and ready to cut very soon. He was going to cut before the Juvi match but the pandemic made it impossible.

I love how clowns like yourself pretend to definitively know a person's health status and well-being based solely on what you see in public and on TV. That's not even addressing how you "know" everything about an entire company's culture that you've never stepped foot in, and who has or hasn't done what, while ranting about how you know what would've definitely happened elsewhere.

You don't have a fucking clue about his health status or whether he remotely has any issues, let alone if anyone has or hasn't done something to try to help him and if he even needs or has asked for it.

Your completely speculating about someone's health and well-being based on what you're allowed to see publicly and assuming that their employer is not doing enough to control the personal actions of someone they employ.

You just made the list!

Has anyone who is lambasting "AEW culture" been in the locker room to really see what it's like? Or are they just shitting on it because it's AEW?

Unless you've been in that space, you have no idea what the culture is or how it affects anyone there. You're just spouting bullshit for the sake of it.

They go to parties who have people who read about those in the know from Twitter and other dead message boards.


Geez Screech, it's literally everywhere on the internet. I'm not going to come down to your level to show you, dumbass yank.

Damn, I forgot about the dirtsheet reading parties.

Some of these terrible takes are not going to age well. Keep licking that boot.

Jericho’s a grown-ass man who can down bottles of vodka on his podcasts for all to see, and he’s got every right to destroy himself. But that doesn’t make giving him the platform and means to do so isn’t morally reprehensible. And it doesn’t make it not sad.

Did any of you work for ECW? If not, how can you speak towards the culture there? Probably a clean working space. You are the same posters who will gobble up reports that wrestlers are miserable in the WWE.

Did you work for ECW?




GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS!!!!!

Do you really think Jericho needs AEW's money or "platform" to drink as much as he wants, whether in private or public?

It absolutely is Tony Khan's culture that allows it. The same way it was Vince McMahon's culture that allowed all the shit the wrestlers did while working for him.

Maybe if Tony Khan didnt buy booze and white claws to party with his employees after tapings Moxley wouldnt have got to such a bad place. Anything for Tony to have friends though, right?

And Khan didnt know my ass, Moxley was bragging about it on the stupid Cody Rhodes show that Tony produces.

"TONY NOT BAD, VINCE BAD!!!"

I never said he was better, worse, or the same as Vince until just nkw in my previous post. Just because Vince is an asshole Tony gets a pass? Thats a bad defense.

Does Tony really do that? Damn. Starting to like this guy.

It’s been publicly addressed and advertised. You are going to get that absence of reasoning when it comes to BigCrippyZ, screech and others when it comes to being honest about this company.

No, it's about one company believing they can and should be able to control the private lives of their talent and one that doesn't.

:lol:

Watch this tone flip if Tony Khan implements their own version of a wellness policy.

I don’t even know how Vince has come into the conversation. WWE being a shitty place to work has got nothing to do with whether or not substance abuse issues get way more room to walk themselves out in a company with such a party and “you’re doing great no matter what!” culture.

The assumptions being made here are amazing.

He does

He also orders a shitload of Taco Bell for everyone as well

I want some taquitos.

Eh, kind of with Damien on this one. Enabling substance abuse is a pretty serious accusation. Don't think there's enough evidence one way or the other to judge them on it quite yet.

Is there ANY evidence? Right now all I see are unsubstantiated accusations based on nothing and originating of the ass of those pointing the finger.

The idea that Moxley hasn’t struggled with abuse for a good portion of his adult life, and that he was somehow enabled by his employer, is fucking asinine. Just a piss poor take.

This thread isn’t real life.

Why didnt he ever get bloated and purple from alcohol abuse until he had no rules from his employer? Even though he has said so many times working in WWE was so bad and depressing and soul crushing, why not then? That logically that would be the most ideal time to drown his sorrows.

Super depressed Dean Ambrose had restraint and was still a professional for 7 years, but free from prison happy Jon Moxley drank himself into rehab in 2 years, and you do not believe the culture where he works may have enabled that?

I hear tell that there has also been some sort of pandemic going around that has been exacerbating a lot of people's stress/problems/worries/depression.

Jericho isn't depressed or feeling overweight. He's in bulking season and has had some diet changes but nothing major. He is in the best shape.

Oh my god! Soon you're going to tell me people gain weight and stop working out or indulge more when they get older! Particularly when they have freedom and aren't held hostage in their personal life by their employer! Shocker!

It's apparently absolutely immoral for an employer to treat actual adults like actual adults.

They shouldn't provide them with any actual freedom or benefits that would cost the company any more money than absolutely needed though. Instead, they should micromanage the adult talent and treat them like children, and they should only do the minimal amount so that the company can exploit the talent for as as much net profit as possible for as long as possible. After all, there's there's nothing immoral about that.

Why is everyone so angry?

The person who got angry is BigCrippyZ. He attacks anyone for daring to say anything negative about AEW or balanced about the WWE. No one has actually said that they know for sure it’s a substance abuse issue. A LOT of people are concerned that it is because of what people know about Jericho and what people know about AEW. Some people can’t have that.

To be fair, I have made more serious accusations. Well, implied them, anyway.

He's very toxic

I don’t know about enabling substance abuse, but it’s wild to see people act like there isn’t a massive difference in how Jericho looks on screen in AEW compared to WWE. He was always presentable and looked great for his age when he was with WWE.

He has looked horrendous during his whole run in AEW. Why would you need to be inside the locker room of the company to see that he isn’t looking after himself as well as he did? He didn’t age 10 years in 2 years naturally.

Vince has his own long list of sins to answer for, but putting Jericho on TV in the shape he is in is definitely one of AEW’s.

Jericho was fast in njpw. Let’s stop pretending it’s Tony Khan’s fault and hold the actual person accountable until we have actual evidence that AEW is creating a toxic, enabling environment.

Let’s also not hold Vince to some standard as if there isn’t a long history of substance and alcohol abuse that’s happened while under contract for him.

Jericho looks like shit. And he knows he looks like shit. Remember when he hashtagged the NBA group or sucked his gut in with that photo with Thunder Rosa? He’s lost control. We don’t know if this is why he was in the hospital, but that almost the entire online wrestling community gulped a little bit says something.

We get it, Vince and his contracts are exploitative and far too controlling. Nobody is arguing against that. But that does not change the fact that Tony Khan is an enabler to certain people who have clearly gone off the deep end with no boundaries. If he was not so concerned about his wrestlers liking him and hanging out drinking White Claws with him, and put his foot down, his 3 previous World Champions would have kept themselves in better shape.

Dislike Vince all you want, there is no way he would let Moxley or Jericho on TV the way they look, and they both knew that standard was in place. Without that standard, well look at them. Tony Khan could have said take better care of yourself or I am going to have to take you off the show, it would not have been an unreasonable request. But he is a creepy fanboy who lets them do whatever they want so he can have friends.

Bang. Spot on. I had to think about who the third World Champion was, but that’s a valid point about Omega too. He’s run himself into the ground by working the way he works.

Nothing to do with Vince. That’s a completely separate issue. When the subject is Jericho, Khan is being irresponsible by using him the way he looks. He nearly killed himself with one of the worst lionsault attempts I have ever seen. He is slow and sloppy and looks horrendous.

Jericho isn’t Tony Khans responsibility, but he isn’t doing him any favors by letting him go on TV week after week looking like he does. You don’t need to have a toxic atmosphere to see that Jericho isn’t presentable at the moment. Get the guy some help or at the very least have some standards for how he should look on your show.

I love how many of you are apparently in touch with Jericho’s doctor about how awful shape he’s in and who and what’s to blame. Meltzer has nothing on you all.

You’re in denial.

What we do know for a fact about Jerich is that he likes to drink and he’s put on weight over the years.

Therefore Tony Khan is an asshole.

Also, fuck rainbows.


They cause cancer.

What we do know for a fact about Tony Khan is that he wants constant reassurance that his wrestlers think he is their friend and cool.

Therefore he will not discipline them in the slightest unless they talk about rape like Max Caster or Sammy Guevara.

Do you think all big fat drunk wrestlers ever should have been disciplined or is Jericho a special case?

Disciplined? I dunno if I would class taking someone off TV for a while and getting them some help with their issues as discipline exactly.

Not always, but there has to be a line when it is clearly effecting their well being.

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He does not look well. Had Tony stepped in 6 months earlier it would have been far better for Moxley.

Nah, I'm just not such an arrogant moron that I presume to know someone else's health status without at least hearing about it from them or a doctor who's actually personally examined them.

Holy shit, Moxley looks fucking horrid. How can anyone close to him have the audacity to act surprised that he had this sort of problem?

No, you just generate false dichotomies and will ignore all warning signs to mindlessly defend this shitty company and its shitty management.

It would be pretty funny if it turned out Tony Khan has created a breeding ground for classic wrestling vices. No steroids whatsoever though...