Hype for Wrestlemania 38, Card Updates & Prediction fun
 

Okay here we are in full force to Mania season again, sure not all of us care and we're not even sure that WWE cares that much! But we've got 5 or 6 weeks before the biggest WWE show of the year and the card is coming together in decent time. Hopefully not too many matches are left til the week before the show! I will keep this post updated with the current card as we go.

Wrestlemania Saturday

• Raw Women's Championship: Becky Lynch vs Bianca Bel Air
• Seth Rollins vs TBA
• The Miz & Logan Paul vs Rey & Dominick Mysterio
• Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods vs. Sheamus and Ridge Holland
• Drew McIntyre vs Happy Corbin
• KO Show w/Steve Austin
• Smackdown Women's Championship: Charlotte vs Ronda Rousey
• Smackdown Tag Team Championship: The Uso's vs Nakamura & Boggs

Wrestlemania Sunday

• Title vs Title - Winner Takes All: Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns
• Edge vs AJ Styles
• Pat McAfee vs Austin Theory
• Sami Zayn vs Johnny Knoxville
• Women's Tag Team Titles: Carmella & Queen Zelina vs Banks & Naomi vs Ripley & Morgan vs Natalya & Baszler
• Bobby Lashley vs Omos
• Raw Tag Team Titles: RK-Bro vs. The Street Profits vs. Alpha Academy

I am going to attempt to take the Mania Season ride after a few years on the outs. So far we've got the above matches announced. Edge likely to face AJ styles but not confirmed. Also rumored in the last few days is a Steve Austin return to the ring against Kevin Owens and a long rumored Riddle vs Orton match.

However after Raw we have a curve in that potential outcome as KO & Seth Rollins have formed a team that may end up as tag team champions. Of course there are multiple outcomes here, Seth and KO could win and Orton & Riddle can finally go after each other. Or maybe RKBro regains the titles and defends them at Mania against whomever while Seth and KO have a match against each other.

There is no real cause for anything more than the tag goal as of this time in my opinion. I don't think KO ragging on Texas is really a sign that there is a singles match looming with Austin. I can't even see how Austin could come into Kevin Owen's orbit right now. Perhaps Austin is placed as an enforcer for a tag title match with KO & Rollins vs RKBro, and that is a safe bet for a good match so right now that's my prediction. KO & Rollins defend the belts that they will win next week against RK Bro with Austin involved in the match somehow.

IF Cody is rejoining WWE I really don't see a great match available to him right now. I can name a few off the cuff though. First and foremost but highly unlikely due to recent events is Triple H. That story writes itself pretty well, but unfortunately I don't see it happening because of Triple H's health.

Omos. Yeah I know it's laughable in a way but also I can see if Cody comes into WWE as a babyface this being a very "WWE type of story". Cody returns to WWE only to immediately come face to face (metaphorically) with his BIGGEST CHALLENGE TO DATE. And Cody wins.

New Day. Either Kofi or Big E would be a great opposition to Cody returning on Smackdown with a sense of entitlement. Big E or Kofi are great representatives of "WWE, sticking with WWE through and through, hard work paying off etc). I could see Cody going over Kofi at Mania with Big E in Kofi's corner or maybe even Cody losing to Big E and solidifying himself as a mid-card heel.

Finn Balor. I would love to see Finn win the US Championship from Damien Priest and then to be on the receiving end of Cody's debut and challenge for the US Belt at Mania. Cody with that neck tattoo just reeks of WWE US Championship sooo... also, is WWE pushing Damien Priest? Maybe Cody challenges him, I just haven't seen many people talking Priest up lately and I can't tell if they have grown tired of the Priest experiment or if I'm wrong and he's well and over.

Austin Theory. Not sure I can see anything looming for him as of now for Mania. Perhaps he's chosen by Vince to take out Cody upon his redebut. Seem's like an obvious angle, perhaps too on the nose as WWE may not want to refer to AEW strongly.

I trust Vince knows I like my WrestleMania's with a heavy dose of Bad Bunny and Logan Paul, that mixed tag match no one ever asks for, A Mojo return, repetitive Main Events and all my black people bunched in one or two matches so we can get on to the cool white wrestlers.

Pretty pumped for this year’s Mania. Don’t normally get that way, but a lot of the bad internet takes on modern wrestling have pushed me into their corner, combined with them having the money and resources to potentially do major, major things.

I’m prepared to be disappointed, but that’s wrestling, isn’t it?

You’ve actually got some great stories going on with Brock and Roman and potentially Becky and Bianca (brewing since SummerSlam, with it arguably going back to Becky winning the Raw title in the first place). Brock/Roman really started in 2014 when Brock ended the streak.

Bad take.

I'm optimistic that it'll be enjoyable as a standalone show, like most of their PPVs are. The issue is I rarely come out of them feeling a desire to watch the show every week.

Mania will be an exception to this as I feel like the post-Mania Raw and SmackDowns are always "must watch" to see if they can do something fun to grab my attention. IIRC the last 3 years of post-Mania TV weeks have been flat and devoid of any real surprises, although in fairness the last 2 years were in the Performance Center and Thunderdome where it wouldn't have felt like a spectacle anyway.

Hopefully a full, live audience being back will cause some cool stuff to be lined up not just for Mania but after. Seeds are already planted for Cody to return on the post-WM Raw to confront Miz if he's actually coming back.

Anyway, definitely rooting for Mania to be fun because wrestling is better when Mania is fun.

Hearing that Edge dropped references to both AJ and Cody in his Mania promo makes me wonder if they're still trying to talk HBK in to a Mania match (presumably against AJ) and so they've got the Edge thing as a fallback.

Actually would be kinda funny if AJ and Cody both answer the challenge, leaving Edge pissed off that he's suddenly in a triple threat again.

Couldn't care less.

I just read on Ringsidenews (obvs a sus website on some things) that WWE is waiting for this tag story with KO & Seth to finish before brining Austin onto TV. So what does that mean? Next week is the triple threat match for the tag titles with Alpha Academy vs RK Bro vs KO & Seth Rollins.

So it would probably make the most sense for RK Bro to pin one of Alpha Academy to retain or for RK Bro to have a team "miscue" that causes Orton to turn on Riddle to setup that one on one match people are talking about.

I had read somewhere early on in the Cody to WWE news that one idea was for Cody to face Seth at Mania. I don't "get it" when it comes to that angle, but I think the match could be excellent.

I don't get Cody going back at all. He "doesn't fit" with anyone, really. Feel like anything he will do, if he even shows up, will not be remotely interesting.

What was the Edge reference? I can’t really see Cody being back befor Mania. But anything’s possible, I guess. Austin Theory is the other guy on the Raw side that could be popped in there against Seth Rollins if AJ goes with Edge.

Is Rollins a face or a heel? Watching Rumble he seemed clearly a face... was that only a vs. Roman Reigns face turn?

Is Austin Theory a face or a heel? For some reason thought he was a heel....

Cody vs Seth is only because HHH can't go. It'd be him if he didn't have his health issues. Seth is the closest thing to a protege that HHH has wrestling wise though (at least in terms of on screen stories over the years) so he makes sense as the fall back.

Seth and Theory are both heels from my perspective. People cheer Seth sometimes though because he's one of those cocky shit talking heels who doesn't just go after faces. In a heel vs heel scenario Seth is the one getting the face pops.

Theory def a heel.

He referenced "undeniable" which was a Cody gimmick early in AEW. Also Edge grouped "undeniable" with "phenomenal" and "a demon". He was hinting at a match with Cody, AJ or Finn.

Seth is a much better heel. His outing at Rumble against Reigns was stellar from start to finish. Dressing up in Shield garb, old entrance, taunting throughout the match literally all the way till the end.


That's how you heel without being a chicken shit.

I'd guess "Plan A" could be:

HBK vs. Styles
Cody vs. Edge
Balor vs. Priest/someone else in a US title match

But if HBK doesn't want to do it they can revert to
Styles vs. Edge
Cody vs. Balor (maybe Balor wins the US title next week if they immediately want to put a secondary belt on Cody)

To me all that was being a face... just a cocky flamboyant face which I thought was a nice turn and made for a cool gimmick and an actually interesting face.

What were his motivations though? He was trying to negatively affect his opponents psyche by drudging up his past. Typically, that is not something an ambivalent person would do. A person who wishes to manipulate another by tugging on the strings of past emotions to get what they want, is more in line with a malevolent person.

But against a heel so it was a fresh and interesting take on a face. Thought he had just taken his heel character and pivoted it to face and thought that it would be very interesting for him.

A heel is someone you want to see get their ass kicked. A face is someone that you want to see kick ass. Steve Austin and The Rock were not heels just because they were jerks and irl that sort of person would be obnoxious and the bane of everyone’s existence. They were faces because you wanted to live vicariously through them.

Thanks. I would have definitely missed that, lol. Without hearing the actual promo, it makes me think none of those are going to be the opponents. That’s what Edge did when he started his thing with The Miz too. If you drop a few names, it might keep them floating in people’s minds, but making a concrete choice from that position is odd.

Makes me feel good about my prediction of Austin Theory for Edge. A babyface veteran against a young upstart with all the potential in the world, but none of the killer instinct to put it all into practice…yet.

That leaves Styles for Rollins. Who is the greatest performer of this generation? Seth would be the heel, possibly gaining Omos as a bodyguard to mess with Styles.

That leaves Balor to take the dark side he’s tamed against the unbridled dark side of Damian Priest in a US Title match. I did have the idea that Balor could start his own heel Balor Club faction with Omos, Grayson Waller and someone else (I’ve forgotten who else was in there), but maybe they just give that to Rollins?

I was all for HBK returning, but it just seems “too much” for one show. Maybe a special guest ref spot for Drew & Taker vs. Corbin & Moss on the SmackDown side of things? He can then have a moment where he bumps into Styles and something is teased for down the line or whatever.

So anyone that faces a heel is automatically a face?

No, but he was acting pretty endearing and likeable and was getting a lot of cheers for it.... so that I'd say was a face

Looking ahead to next year...as always Rock/Roman in LA feels like it would be WWE's dream scenario but that match has been rumored for so long it's gotten to "I'll believe it when I see it" territory.

It's simply an issue of availability. The Rock might want to do the match but he's understandably not about to turn down a $20 million movie if the schedules conflict.

No film studio is gonna allow its leading man to take a few days off to wrestle in the middle of filming. And even if he was in between films at the time, I'm not sure if the film he's working on after Mania would want him doing something physically demanding. Probably would need to be all sorts of legal mumbo jumbo involved. Especially since Rock got fucked up after his last match.

As much as I think AJ/Edge is a "Mania match" I actually think Theory vs Edge does make more sense, and potentially "makes" Theory. Where as Edge vs AJ is kinda "ego based", still AJ & Edge is a great match for Mania or one of the PPV's after.

I like that idea of Seth vs AJ too, I think you still get a "Mania match" with those two and gain potential with Edge and Theory.

I've not read or seen anything that would indicate that Taker or HBK are considering a match at Mania so until that hint comes I'll leave it in the dark. I don't see it right now, and I think even though the WWE roster is tighter than years past, they have a lot of big stars who "need to get on the show". That we haven't even discussed yet.

Balor vs Priest is going to happen on Raw, I can see them doing a rematch vs The Demon at Mania. I'm just not sure if WWE is hot on Priest or not because I haven't been watching. I'm not certain if he's a guy who could get cut from the packed card or if he's a lock for a match.

As you fill in the card fantasy wise it's pretty easy to leave out Cody, Taker, Shawn, Booker and Austin for actual matches on the show. It's not needed. Each night is going to get a celebrity match with Miz & Logan Paul and then Johnny Knoxville (it seems). To draw in that "wouldn't normally watch Mania" audience. I just don't see Taker going back on all of those interviews since retiring. I don't see HBK making the same mistake he made at Crown Jewel, and I don't see any reason that Austin would be interested in wrestling a match again, and I don't really even see a need for a Diva like Trish or Lita or Beth to get involved. The women's matches can be plentiful and well done with what they have.

There is one opening for Cody and that is Theory with the backing of Vince McMahon. That would be a logical story if they want to label Cody as a traitor of sorts. Vince would use Theory to show him what real talent looks like.

eh, I'd wager you could have placed nearly anyone in there opposite Reigns and get the crowd to cheer them.

Alls I'm saying is that from my outsider perspective if it looks like a face, acts like a face, booked like a face, it's a face.

I had Edge vs Bálor booked in my head but I wouldn’t have had The Demon return to lose to Roman. You would have had Edge do a “blood bath” in the build up and that would have awoken The Demon.

The XFL is opening in the spring of 2023, I really doubt that The Rock can pull himself away from the first season of XFL and whatever films he may have on deck to do a Mania program. I just don't see it.

Triple Threat is 2 weeks away so we might be waiting a little longer for Austin. Also, RK-Bro aren’t tag champs so they wouldn’t be retaining if one of them pinned Alpha Academy. Really not sure where they go with either of the tag titles. They could continue to ride the momentum of RK-Bro and not do the split, but who do you put them in with that feels big? RK-Bro vs Rollins/Owens feels like a pretty worthy Mania match (and a indictment of the tag division) but KO seems lined up elsewhere. I guess you could do that tag, have Rollins/Owens lose, have Owens start running down Texas, glass shatters, Austin makes his appearance and gives Owens a Stunner, shares a beer with Orton and Riddle.

SmackDown side feels even more difficult to call. Did they do the non-match at EC to try and drag Usos vs Vikings to Mania? Doesn’t feel particularly “heavyweight”, and they’ll likely want to do something with The New Day too, but the combination of New Day/Usos has been done to death, albeit it’s a guaranteed decent match. Maybe a multi-team ladder match? Usos vs. New Day vs. Vikings? Though they’ve missed the 20 year anniversary of TLCII at Mania 17 which would have been a nice call back.

I got to thinking this Ciampa/Ziggler thing could lead to a DIY reunion to take on The Dirty Dogz, if Gargano wanted to continue with WWE but does that feel a bit lightweight for Mania too? And potentially one too many tag team matches?

How about HBK as Guest Ref for that Seth/Styles match? A battle to determine the greatest performer of the generation presided over by the “Greatest Performer of All Time”?

That’s a pretty likely spot. I had him as special ref in Drew/Taker vs. Corbin/Moss. Ends with a Double Tombstone with HBK counting the pin.

Vince McMahon may be wrestling Pat McAfee at WrestleMania apparently?

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Rumor is Vince McMahon vs Pat McAfee... dot dot dot

Vince will be on McAfee's show Thursday.

Vince is 76...interesting...

Vince vs Cody makes a lot more sense than Pat vs Vince... Vince .... maybe he should just wrestle Austin lol.

McAfee was shit talking Cody on his show earlier this week too. So this think with Vince might all somehow intertwine.

Still doing this 2 night bullshit. Takes away any special feeling for the ppv, the first night just comes off as an extended preshow

Two four-hour shows is so much better than one eight-hour show.

Last year one of the shows was much better than the other. I think they still stand a chance at both shows being good. I also like two regular length shows back to back rather than a full 7 hour event.

Was it ever that long?! I remember it being four hours (plus a 1 hr preshow with one or two matches and a lot of promos/talking)

Vince/Theory/KO

vs

Austin/MacAfee/Cody

Gail Kim as special ref

Might have been 7 - preshow at 5 and the show ended after 12. The year Rousey/Becky/Charlotte closed. Joan Jett played Ronda to the ring and that happened at midnight.

I can jive with that.

Yeah, it was a 7.5 hour show. I was there live and I could barely keep my eyes open, not because it was a bad show but because it’s such a fucking long time to sit in a stadium. The crowd peaked at Bryan/Kofi midway through the show and it never recovered. Poor Angle wrestled Boring Corbin in his retirement match and nobody gave a shit that late in the night.

I would rather one concise, 4 hour show with the important stuff. But two separate nights is still better than a marathon.

i predict night one to suck a racehorse's bootyhole and night two to lick a moose's dick


that was fun

Not shitting on your idea, but that just wouldn’t do it for me. Split them into singles, imo.

That could be Backlash.

Yeah one 4-hour show would be ideal but that probably won't happen again. WrestleMania became "how can we get everyone on the card?" rather than "here's the best of the best" a while ago.

Theory with Vince in corner and Shinske with MacAfee would make more sense but first thought was Cody as well but don't exactly see a reason for Cody to give a shit yet

It’s gonna be Vince vs. Pat. Vince is going to go off on Pat on his show; “How dare you shit on Cody Rhodes! That’s my job. You’ve stolen my thunder you sonofabitch!!”

They have a match for the undisputed right to bury Cody.

Pat will ask Vince if he’s out of touch. Or if he’s still got it. Vince will go into crazy old man mode and say that he’s always ready to go. Then he’ll challenge Pat to show up to fight at Mania.

I've got a hunch that WWE is going to have a Mania 10 style tournament on night 1 to crown and Undisputed WWE Women's Champion. Just announced is Bianca and Becky on night 1 joining Charlotte & Ronda.

I like having them both on the same night and it feels like it's going in the direction I am predicting it will but we shall see. If this unification happens then I think that a tag unification would be the best call for a great tag team title match. I'd imagine we'd get RK Bro winning the Raw title in the upcoming Triple Threat Tag Tittle match on Raw.

I'm not sure if WWE would do a similar mini tournament or not but it would also make sense to get certain people on the show.

By the way I've read that Meltzer says they won't do one champion even though they are doing this unification match, we'll see if he's right.

I'd imagine Vince vs. McAfee is no DQ, which essentially turns it into Theory vs. McAfee with Vince barking instructions.

Exactly this. It's lost it's appeal as the best event of the year to me because it's not about the best matches or spectacle anymore, just the most matches/people/guests in one night.

Like, I understand the desire to want to get everyone a pay day after working hard all year but that's what the Andre Battle Royal was meant to be for. Actually kinda funny to look at the WM30 card and see that there were some actual big names in it.

I was skeptical of Charlotte and Ronda headlining night one due to politics. And probably crowd reaction. It could be inconsequential that Becky and Bianca is the same night, because I don’t think either is going to headline.

You can give talent paydays without needing to throw them onto the card.

Apparently Ricochet is slated for a lot of focus moving forward. He’s the guy stepping up to Sami Zayn for the IC Title. There’s a very good chance he wins it and is the kayfabe coach and babyface to get the rub from this whole Jackass thing.

Did Sasha and Naomi just declare themselves the #1 Contenders for the Women’s Tag belts? lol

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I am in for it. I miss Booker.

Booker still in great shape and always looked great in-ring.




But.....




King Bookah or GTFO

I wouldnt mind them setting up the Vince/Pat match, having Theory jump Pat, then Vince turning it into a tornado tag match where Pat has to get a partner, and it being Stone Cold. That would suck for Owens but if Vince is gonna wrestle and Stone Cold is gonna wrestle, how could they not fight each other?

Totally agree. And they can maybe do this Booker T vs Kevin Owens match and I think that would be a lot of fun! Suckaaaaa

Ill never complain about a Booker T match!

People used to always ask “What happens when all the old stars get too old and they can’t trot them out in lieu of making new stars”? Welp… There’s no shortage of Bad Bunnys and Logan Pauls though.

Reigns is the closest they’ve come to building a new star by a mile and if the rumoured card is even mostly true he won’t be in the top 5 biggest stars on the card.

I think that both Brock and Roman are at "that level". I don't even think a returning Steve Austin at this stage, will mean more to the current WWE marks, than the Roman/Lesnar match.

Really hope Reigns beats Lesnar. I'm a sucker for long title reigns, and Reigns has been really entertaining throughout all of this.

I don’t think it’s the end of the world if Brock wins, but Roman winning seems the likely outcome.

This will prolly be the best WM in a decade! pumped

Apparently Cody is "on the schedule" for Wrestlemania.

Austin Theory going to humble 'Mad Dog' MacAfee at Mania baybay

Guess we’re getting Usos vs Naks/Boogs. Could throw in New Day and Sheamus and Holland to make it a Fourway?

The SmackDown side is basically shaping up to be largely what I expected but with Ricochet in the Cesaro spot as IC Champion.

how the hell is the MSG show not being aired? As much as they hyped that up and there is no way to watch it....wtf WWE. Baffling.

Doesn’t it cost a lot of money to record at MSG? But that being said, apparently they are recording Brock vs. whoever at the very least.

I’ve got a feeling that Owens and Austin isn’t going to happen. They don’t need it. There is no pressure on them to need to play that hand. And once Austin is gone, you’re going to miss him again.

I can see Owens eating a Stunner, but that’s about it. Wrestling doesn’t deserve Stone Cold right now.

The back and forth reports on Cody, is he WWE bound or isn't he, is he on the Mania card internally or isn't he? Well my gut says he's not WWE bound now.

Similar reports with Austin and McMahon, doesn't seem to be any type of "lock" that either will wrestle on the show. Obviously that's okay. It's probably best if they want to switch the Kevin Owens vs Texas idea to go with Booker T who can have a better match than Austin probably and also will have a lot less pressure than Austin would.

You can have Austin corner Pat and Vince corner Theory to give more shine to that match as well.

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Pat admitting to Vince that he used to watch WrestleMania illegally. :lol:

VADER going into the HOF

I don’t think there would have been a change in situation. Cody would have to be wise enough to know he was not going to be featured at WrestleMania from the start. It’s more likely Dave or whoever was just making stuff up/reporting AEW bias because Vince is in all their heads.

This, Dave Meltzer guesses but reports it as fact, then when it doesn't happen he makes a new guess, reports the new guess as fact, and instead of owning up to his bullshit, he says plans changed.

Vince is DEFINITELY docking Pat's Mania check by $1500 to make up for those pirated Manias :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Hearing Vince talk about The Attitude Era during that interview, you can just tell how much he longs for those days. It’s sad. He even kinda expresses envy for Pat Mcafee not being tied down by a network and being able to do what he wants.

Outside of Edge vs. AJ (or anything AJ does really) there isnt a match on the card so far I'm interested in.

I'm about a 50-50 hit rate on buying Mania since WCW closed but this is probably the first time there isnt a decent portion of the card at least tempting me.

god, just pay for peacock for 1 month and don't waste whatever premium price tag they are putting on the event on-demand (if they are still)

Looks likely that the early reports of Steve Austin working a return match were premature and too hopeful. Some would say it's for the best and they'd probably be right but it is a bit of a deflation from the original story of Austin working a match.

Also there is nothing online suggesting that Cody is near a WWE contract right now so that potential surprise/element seems to be shot. It was looking like a lot of freak show type match making could have made a very memorable show but now it's not looking that great on paper.

I think at this point the biggest players without a match are The New Day, Uso's, Rollins & RK Bro and the potential match making isn't that exciting.

The KO show segment will see KO eat a stunner, axe kick, finished with a spinarooni from Booker, who will then get stunner'd by Austin. He will then celebrate on the ring posts, probably sans beer.

Seth is/was exactly the type of opponent I could see Cody working because it would be a good match, makes Cody feel like a big deal coming in and working with someone important. But surely they'd need to start that build by next week if it's going to happen.

Anyway, Austin not actually wrestling is probably the right call. The KO Show might involve some brawling and a Stunner which is probably all most of the audience wants.

The Cody thing has been dumb from the start. It doesn't make any sense at all. That isn't to say it won't happen, but it will be so damn pointless.


They won't mention AEW on-air, or even allude to it - so there's no "angle" there with that.


And CAWdy has always been just...... boring. You could put him and Christian and Lance Storm in a Freebird Tag Team and they'd be the most boring tag team of all time, we can call them BOAT.

anyone that thought austin was going to lace up the boots again is kinda dumb/desperate/both


also, let's stop pretending we care about cody

More like zerofundiddle.

What's fun about cawdy?




There'd be nothing fun about Austin in his current shape. He knows better and if he does anything, it'll be a spot in the KO show. He knows this, and it would be best to "protect the legacy" of the Stone Cold character, in my opinion.


Undertaker was always my favorite, ever since I was a kid. I cringed at how long he stuck around, even after saying he wouldn't be one of those guys in an interview years before. I pretend Undertaker's last match was HBK I and II

I’m not watching so I don’t care much. Would of tuned in for an actual Austin match though. Will watch the viral clips of Cody if he actually makes the jump.

would have*

Yeah. I always fuck that up. Probably will forever.