Edge defeating "The Demon" Finn Balor
 

Great match; wrong outcome.

What the fuck does a victory do for Edge? Make him more of a Hall of Famer?

A victory for "The Demon" Finn Balor over Edge in the Hell in a Cell could have possibly ignited Finn and put everyone on notice.

But he goes down to a 50 year old triple neck fusion Edge and Finn will continue to whimper on by even though he's supposed to be the leader of Judgment Day. His Demon persona now meaning less. Why even bring the Demon into it if you are just going to have him job out? Could have accomplished that with just Finn and Edge could have gotten the retribution.

Just stupid booking.

Utter. Fucking. Stupid. Booking.

I’m not really into what Edge is doing, but Balor is the weakest member of Judgment Day. Edge going over keeps him protected for when he does put someone over. He’s only done a couple of jobs since being back, and that’s probably the right thing. Balor also beat Edge earlier. The face winning in the end makes sense.

Balor was also injured, and I don't mean the cut. He wrestled that match with a torn calf.

normally I'd agree here, but WWE has a decision to make with Judgement Day. Balor really is the weakest member of the group even though he is the leader. I would say Dom is the hottest guy in Judgement Day. I hate repeating storylines right away, but they kind of have to give Dom the ball and make him the leader and kick Finn out.

And the feud with Edge had to come to a close at Mania and there's no way Edge wasn't winning with that they did to him and Beth months before. So it sort of made sense for closure. But now where do they go with Finn from here? It's inevitable for Dom's character to want to take over leadership from Finn

we'll see

Finn’s fine. I think he and Priest will go after the tag belts at some point this year. I’d like to see him face Santos Escobar at Backlash, but I can just see him buzzing around what Dominik & Priest/Rhea do.

Edge has won every fued he has been in since he came back except vs Roman, and a match against Orton when he tore his tricep, which was likely an audible as it was a taped match in front of 0 fans.

Can’t think of one he should have lost out of that batch though.

....so you think Edge should have went over Roman?

I don’t think he’s saying that.

Also don't understand how people see Dom going for the leader role when he isn't exactly winning anything either. His story is hot for sure, or was, cuz Im not sure where he goes now after jobbing to his dad and then being stuck in a bad bunny showcase match. But I'm not seeing a scenario where the kid who got beat up by his dad makes sense as a better leader than the guy who just finished a HIAC match against a legend with his head split in half and a torn calf.

You want to change leaders then it needs to be Rhea. Evil Mami.

Edge over Finn just leaves a “now what?” vibe. Edge goes away until his next feud, The Demon character takes another loss and Finn/Judgment Day continues seemingly like nothing has changed, I guess because nothing has. These are the bits of the story that wrestling misses out more often than not; little to no consequence for wins/losses.

Can see Judgment Day being split in the Draft (despite other teams being drafted as one).

I'm not convinced Edge was planned to go over Balor originally. I mean really what does Edge do now? Who does he feud with? Does he stay out until it's almost time for Christian to return and then come back and set something up? I dunno.

This is possible. Could see Balor/Priest on RAW as a tag team and Dom going over to SD with Rhea because she's the champ there.

Edge is supposed to be special. I don’t feel like he comes off that way — to me anyway — but it’s supposed to be a big deal when he loses. I can see him and Austin Theory doing something. Edge taking up for the legends Theory disrespects. That could be how they segue into Edge vs. Cena.

Balor is a win some/lose some kind of guy. I’d put Santos Escobar over him at Backlash. I don’t think it matters if Rey & Bad Bunny beat Domian either. They’re kind of chickenshits.

I think they’ll all stay together. They’re a good act. Good heat. They’re just not unbeatable.

There’s also Bray Wyatt for Edge, potentially. I mean, that will absolutely suck, but it could be a thing he wants to do.

I can see them doing Edge vs. Cody too.

At 41 years old, I think we might just have to accept that this what Finn Balor is in WWE. He’s occasionally spooky Dolph Ziggler.

In my head I had Rhea kicking both Finn and Dom out of Judgement Day after WM because "they couldn't get it done like she did".

Of course, at that point Judgement Day is just her and Priest, which is not really a stable anymore. I wasn't sure who I would have brought in as "replacements".

Dom would have become "more pathetic and annoying" and be desperately trying to blame his dad for it all while trying to find new friends.

Didn't have a plan for Finn either. He just goes away for a while.

Judgement Day is one of Raw's best things going. Sure, Balor is the 'leader' but it isn't the role to use everyone for his own ambition.

Keep them together, just have Balor keep slapping that mat. He doesn’t need to win every feud.

I wouldn’t mind repackaging Corbin into Judgment Day, taking advantage of what they were doing with him post-JBL. Also Karrion Kross and Scarlett as they seem a little rudderless at the minute. Maybe the platform gives them the opportunity to “break out” on their own again if the crowd gets behind them.

Don't really get the IWC mentality that the old guy has to give the rub every time. I think Edge winning was fine. Some matches are made to beef up a card, not to necessarily have some long development future plan. Finn will just probably go for the tag titles with Priest this summer and all will be fine.

I don't think the old guy has to give the rub every time either. The issue with Edge is that he's been back 3 years and he's basically given the rub to no one. He lost to the champ....and Orton? That's it I think.

I can't even remember if Orton actually went over in the end now.

If you put everyone over then you wont be able to out anyone over. If edge is to go under it should be to someone unmade.

Like Finn Balor? Or is he too “damaged”?

Part of me thinks they went with the “right person wins” with every match aside from the Main Event so that when Cody didn’t win it hit even harder. It was one of the better cards for the “could go either way” results though.

100% this.

I kind of like the group as it is now. I can see the reasoning behind Corbin. I’m not totally against it. Kross is pretty awful. I have to squint to see that one.

I had that thought too.

Finn Balor is a bucket with holes at the bottom. You can pour as much water as you want in there but it is never going to stay full.

if "former wwe champion" hasnt made you beating edge isnt the ticket either

Thank you

I mean he held the belt (and not the WWE Championship) for less than a day…

And let’s get this straight, he didn’t lose to Edge. He lost to Brood Edge.

He was the first champion and they made a big deal out of what a big achievement it is. He has been around for years. He’s not going to magically catch fire when nothing about him has really changed. I guess he wears leather pants and mainly reps purple now.

Losing to Brood Edge is the most protection a guy can have.

To be fair I see Edge's current run a bit differently. After 9 years out and not knowing he could ever do this again, it's more a career relaunch. Had he been full time for the last 25 years I'd probably see it differently, but he deserves some big wins and moments before he winds down for good.

It was also 7 years ago. And a championship with no lineage. And a belt design that people hated. And again, it lasted less than a day.

I’m not actually advocating for Finn Balor World Champion or even that he definitely should have beaten Edge but he’s never been used to his full potential. He’s had stop-start booking and some of the worst creative in the last 10 years (original debut of The Demon King, that whole thing with Sister Abigail, the way he lost to Roman, mostly anything with The Demon).

Take a look at Sami Zayn for a guy on the roster with enough short comings to deny him access to the top of the card that managed to catch fire.

I don’t think any of those points negates what Destor said. He didn’t click 7 years ago, hasn’t really in the past 7 and probably won’t in the next. At least not with a kayfabe win over Edge.

He’s not horrible or anything, but it’s Finn Balor, dude. The best thing about him for the first 8 years of his WWE run was his entrance. It’s possibly topped by him being a sneaky assist to Dominik Mysterio.

I’d argue that Balor has actually been pushed too hard over the years. The guy’s a meaty edition to a cruiser division. They’ve tried and tried again to push him as a guy on the upper-mid/main event level.

I'm just glad he's a heel.... he just looks "slimy" and always has, so him going heel was best all around. Plus he's getting showcased more than he would if he was a face. If he was face he would totally be Ricochet/million other guys who are "just there".

He is much more useful as a heel. The dude looks like he’s aged a lot in the past couple of years too.

I love Finn and all but what's the point of pushing him if you got the better version of Finn Balor on the roster already in AJ Styles.

AJ Styles is a well travelled 46 year old that is now heavily leaning on his indy cred to get by in basic boring WWE style matches now which are mostly 5 minute throw-aways that do nothing and inspire or awe no one.

Finn's still got TIME to build, carry and pass the torch. AJ Style's time is just running out.

And I am a big AJ Styles fan and not a hater but there is no doubt his quality of work has significantly decreased and even his presence on RAW's or SD's or PPV's is inconsistent at best and significantly degraded since his debut in 2016.

He literally is just going through the motions on live WWE TV giving the bare minimum fucks when that MOFO used to tear up the high school gymnasiums and bingo halls wrestling any half decent indy wrestler and carrying them to a 3-4 star match for 20 minutes or more. That is passion! This is just sad, poorly booked WWE AJ Styles whose making BIG money wrestling in front of the largest crowds of his career but is utterly apathetic to his wrestling matches being anything special.

Balor’s just a couple of years behind AJ and has never been as interesting as AJ then or even AJ now. There’s more than just going in there and hitting shotgun dropkicks.

You said it in your previous post. He's 46. His body probably can't keep up with the matches he used to have.

Thats fine though. Dude gave us two decades of incredible matches. Let him have his victory lap.

Edge beating Styles was fine too. I want Styles vs. Gunther pretty bad.

I wonder what the whole Edge with JD would have looked like if they’d not put him off with the “spooky bollocks” shortly before HHH came to power? Often think it’d be the most interesting read/watch if they did a book/show about what the plans were before they had to change direction on certain booking.

We provably would have just gotten Heel Edge vs. Face Finn.

Would Hard time Dom ever joined the judgement day if Edge was still in charge?

Yeah, I think so. We’d just get Edge vs. Rey Mysterio instead of them teaming.

Would Dom still do Hard Time?

I don’t see why not.