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GD 06-17-2023 09:46 AM

AEW: Collision Megathread
 
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slik 06-17-2023 11:24 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's official!<br><br>Our opening theme for Saturday Night <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWCollision?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWCollision</a> on TNT is<br>Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting by Sir Elton John!<br><br>While <a href="https://twitter.com/FulhamFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FulhamFC</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/WatfordFC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WatfordFC</a> will never be best mates on the pitch, you're now a great friend to <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEW</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/eltonofficial?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@eltonofficial</a>, and we salute you, Sir!</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1669835634301698053?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jim Ross apparently will only be calling Collision's main event so the show has a commentary duo: Kevin Kelly and Nigel McGuinness! <a href="https://t.co/MicCH5xiWB">pic.twitter.com/MicCH5xiWB</a></p>&mdash; Drainmaker ��️ �� (@DrainBamager) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrainBamager/status/1669899171296604161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the official AEW Collision intro with Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting!<br><br>I already dig it so much. <a href="https://t.co/k88h1jts2F">pic.twitter.com/k88h1jts2F</a></p>&mdash; Drainmaker ��️ �� (@DrainBamager) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrainBamager/status/1669888376189886465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lock Jaw 06-17-2023 12:34 PM

Was maybe gonna "check it out" to "see" what AEW puts forward to "offer" on a "new show" that might have "more eyes" on it... but I see it isn't airing live in Canada, not airing until 10PM. Too late to start watching for my blood... especially having to wake up early tomorrow for work.

slik 06-17-2023 01:26 PM

I can't watch live so I will have to dvr

Sepholio 06-17-2023 01:57 PM

Just a nit pick, but while I love the intro song I do not love the video package. Seems to not match the upbeat/"bright" feel of the tune if that makes sense. Video looks like it was made for generic heavy metal intro with explosions.

Damian Rey 2.0 06-17-2023 02:03 PM

Excellent song choice tbh. Glad to see Miro coming back. Hobbs getting more TV time is a good thing. Don’t care about Scorpio Sky anymore. He’s whatever.

Lock Jaw 06-17-2023 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5618704)
Just a nit pick, but while I love the intro song I do not love the video package. Seems to not match the upbeat/"bright" feel of the tune if that makes sense. Video looks like it was made for generic heavy metal intro with explosions.

Video was 100% not made with that song in mind

XL 06-17-2023 02:38 PM

Didn’t realise it launched today. Great stuff. Already the best show of the week.

xrodmuc316 06-17-2023 03:29 PM


Ol Dirty Dastard 06-17-2023 03:56 PM

Is JR ageing really that funny, fuckrod?

Sepholio 06-17-2023 04:31 PM

Yes

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-17-2023 04:33 PM

Is it?

Sepholio 06-17-2023 04:35 PM

Tis.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-17-2023 05:11 PM

An old man fell and smashed his face. I'm howling.

Damian Rey 2.0 06-17-2023 05:19 PM

Xrod is just sad and lonely and this is the only place he gets attention, obvs. Makes me yearn for droford.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 05:19 PM

The Collision video doesn’t match the song. It’s also going to be funny if they have to change it because they get booted to another night.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 05:21 PM

No one gets AEW in Australia. If it were on TV, I MIGHT give it a chance. I want there to be a good AEW to put the bad AEW on notice so bad. Have a feeling they’re going to do all they can to shoot themselves in the foot though.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 05:22 PM

I mean, you’re featuring Luchasaurus on the first show.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 05:27 PM

Glad Kevin Kelly is probably getting paid $500k a year now.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 05:30 PM

Looking forward to the political disaster that ensues if Collision either:

A) Flops.

B) Succeeds.

There are people with executive positions in the company that don’t want this to do well. That’s insane to me.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 05:33 PM

Why is Orange Cassidy being involved in this show? It defeats the purpose of having a CM Punk or a second straight-forward show at all. I hope he’s just got an International Champion placeholder slot.

xrodmuc316 06-17-2023 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5618727)
An old man fell and smashed his face. I'm howling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5618729)
Xrod is just sad and lonely and this is the only place he gets attention, obvs. Makes me yearn for droford.


You guys don't even know a callback from this very site???

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5388652)

It's not funny because he is old, it's funny because him saying they beat WWE every week is akin to somebody claiming they won a fight when looking like that.

Sensitive!

Frank Drebin 06-17-2023 06:26 PM

Drebin is on site with exclusive reports for all of TPWW's wrestling fans!

First one to spot Drebin in the crowd gets a prize. Look for the "Seph + Dale < Noid" sign.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 06:30 PM

Hope you have a good time.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 06:31 PM

Does JR claim that AEW beats WWE? That sounds like more of a Chris Jericho, Dave Meltzer or Matt Hardy thing.

Frank Drebin 06-17-2023 07:46 PM

Not a sellout. Hard cam side fairly bare. No one in the upper deck so they didn't sell those seats. Other side fairly full.

Was a legit sellout for punks return last time.

erickman 06-17-2023 08:04 PM

pipe bomb time

erickman 06-17-2023 08:06 PM

people with jim cornette shirts

#1-norm-fan 06-17-2023 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5618704)
Just a nit pick, but while I love the intro song I do not love the video package. Seems to not match the upbeat/"bright" feel of the tune if that makes sense. Video looks like it was made for generic heavy metal intro with explosions.

Yeah. Needs more of a retro light show vibe. Fucking fantastic song choice though. I want someone to make an 80s intro with it.

Evil Vito 06-17-2023 08:28 PM

Hahahaha Christian celebrating with the title is so brilliant.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 08:31 PM

Good hoss match.

Christian celebrating like he won it is great.

#1-norm-fan 06-17-2023 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5618731)
No one gets AEW in Australia.

Didn’t think we’d get any more additions to this after AEW got a TV deal in Australia but… LET’S GO!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5573836)
For those wondering, AEW has 0 deals in Australia, because it isn’t very good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5579718)
AEW doesn’t even have TV in Australia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5580627)
I’m in Australia. AEW does not have a TV deal over here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5515062)
they don’t even have a slot in Australia, which is a pretty big market to miss out on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5555817)
AEW doesn’t have a TV deal in Australia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5539732)
AEW don’t even have a TV deal in Australia because NO ONE GIVES A FUCK.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5618731)
No one gets AEW in Australia.


#1-norm-fan 06-17-2023 08:37 PM

So I’m guessing nothing noteworthy came from the Punk promo.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 08:38 PM

Expecting big things from this. These guys are fucking machines in the ring

Fignuts 06-17-2023 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5618770)
So I’m guessing nothing noteworthy came from the Punk promo.

A few cheeky shots but nothing GAME CHANGING.

Still a really good promo. Worth a watch on youtube.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 08:52 PM

Andrade vs buddy delivered

Figure 8 at the finish was a nice touch

Fignuts 06-17-2023 08:53 PM

Have to believe this is leading to house of black vs LIJ at forbidden.

erickman 06-17-2023 08:57 PM

miro time

erickman 06-17-2023 08:59 PM

miro crush

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:00 PM

Sooooooooo nice having good commentary in aew

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:01 PM

Good showcase for miro's return.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:02 PM

This may have been the best first hour of AEW television I've ever seen.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:05 PM

Haven't been a fan of this whole outcasts thing, but I gotta say I like their aesthetic.

erickman 06-17-2023 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5618788)
This may have been the best first hour of AEW television I've ever seen.

yeah it is a good start people who have not been on in a while

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:06 PM

Oh god ruby soho has to be concussed wtf

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:12 PM

Today I'm thankful for whoever made skye blue's tights

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:13 PM

lol at nigel hamming it up during the cloverleaf.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:14 PM

Fucking blind tag halfway across the ring

LEARN THE FUCKING RULES

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:15 PM

I 100% thought this was where the momentum was going to drop off. Awful blind tag aside, that was much better than I was expecting. Good stuff.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:33 PM

Hopefully punk doesn't get injured again

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:34 PM

He does not look great tbh

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:35 PM

Looks like hes been pounding those muffins

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:36 PM

So does dax tbh

erickman 06-17-2023 09:37 PM

well ftr will do most the match

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:37 PM

JR sounds awful. Admire the dedication but maybe he should have took the night off.

Destor 06-17-2023 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5618770)
So I’m guessing nothing noteworthy came from the Punk promo.

Spent half his time pandering cheap pops. Pretty low effort promo.

Destor 06-17-2023 09:43 PM

Not a bad show though ftr

rez 06-17-2023 09:51 PM

Just tuning in

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:55 PM

Ok now punk is looking good. That's reassuring.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 09:56 PM

Kinda want to see a punk vs jay white program.

weather vane 06-17-2023 09:58 PM

Love AEW.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 10:00 PM

Fucking great main event

erickman 06-17-2023 10:00 PM

poor juice takes the pin

Fignuts 06-17-2023 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erickman (Post 5618820)
poor juice takes the pin

Love juice, but that was the right play

Fignuts 06-17-2023 10:06 PM

If they can leave most of the dumb stuff on dynamite and deliver shows like this every week, then I'll tune in consistently.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 10:09 PM

Sounds like a good show. I saw the Punk promo. Good stuff. A bit grossed out by Luchasaurus winning the TNT Title.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 10:10 PM

Christian Cage should be the TNT Champion and Luchasaurus should just wrestle jobbers for him when he doesn’t want to work.

erickman 06-17-2023 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5618824)
If they can leave most of the dumb stuff on dynamite and deliver shows like this every week, then I'll tune in consistently.

guess jim cornett will stop watching wed and just review sat night too.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 10:13 PM

There’s no need for Dynamite if they just make Collision good each week.

erickman 06-17-2023 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5618828)
There’s no need for Dynamite if they just make Collision good each week.

tony needs his play wrestlers for wed nights

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 10:24 PM

I’m hoping Collision does well compared to Dynamite. It’d be fun if the Dynamite crew are faced with proof good wrestling can do well.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 10:25 PM

I think The Elite are waiting to sign their deals until they see how Collision goes so they can leave in a huff if they need to.

Frank Drebin 06-17-2023 10:26 PM

Drebin will be back with a report soon. Great show. Warm crowd hot at a few points. Tune in next week!

Destor 06-17-2023 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5618830)
I’m hoping Collision does well compared to Dynamite. It’d be fun if the Dynamite crew are faced with proof good wrestling can do well.

its on saturdays. Itll take a miracle to have any sustained success especially going head to head with wwe ppvs 25% of the year. If it does half of Dynamites numbers its the better show.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5618833)
its on saturdays. Itll take a miracle to have any sustained success especially going head to head with wwe ppvs 25% of the year. If it does half of Dynamites numbers its the better show.

Yeah, that’s what I mean by comparatively. If it does anything close to Dynamite’s numbers, you’d have to expect some heads to melt. And maybe some notes from the network will start getting slipped.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 11:03 PM

Obviously haven’t been able to see the whole show, but man is it good having Kevin Kelly on commentary. Honestly, just having a wrestling show where the commentary doesn’t suck is something to appreciate and a huge point in its favor.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 11:06 PM

I think it’s likely this hurts Dynamite. What are the reasons left to watch that show? I can see maybe 200k or so making Collision their new AEW priority — even if they DVR it.

And I could actually see Jim Cornette dropping Dynamite in favor of Collision too. Vote with your eyeballs.

#1-norm-fan 06-17-2023 11:19 PM

People don’t want to hear Cornette review shows he might actually enjoy. His “What the fuck!” rants are the only reason he reviews current wrestling to begin with.

I mean, personally I’d prefer he not review any current stuff at all but his hate rants are what draws.

Mr. Nerfect 06-17-2023 11:21 PM

I’m not sold on House of Black as a faction or the idea of Trios Titles. What they’ve put up of Andrade vs. Buddy Matthews was good though. Some attempts to tell a story by Matthews, which was always my criticism of him. He’s just spot, spot, spot — but if he’s got this in him, then good.

I hope La Faccion win the Trios Titles and then Buddy leaves the House and goes and does his own thing.

Fignuts 06-17-2023 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5618841)
People don’t want to hear Cornette review shows he might actually enjoy. His “What the fuck!” rants are the only reason he reviews current wrestling to begin with.

I mean, personally I’d prefer he not review any current stuff at all but his hate rants are what draws.

Nah, they're rare enough that its like a special treat when he does it

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2023 01:54 AM

My favorite thing about Cornette’s modern breakdowns is when he gets something good then nitpicks it because he knows the guys will listen and be able to take it on. It’s a long time ago now, but he did it with American Alpha and Revival back in the day. You feel his passion peak and he starts going into overdrive in a positive way and it really hits you. I think he’ll probably do that with Collision, because even I noticed some obvious set-piece kind of stuff in the clips of the main event. I’m expecting a “it was really good, boys, but next time try it this way…”

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2023 01:55 AM

When I say I can see him dropping Dynamite, I can see him dropping full-scale reviews. He’ll still do “Did you see this, Brian?” bits. Because people do love the rants. But I think he’ll push himself and his audience over to Collision, even if just to help the point.

Stu Hart 06-18-2023 06:11 AM

AEW got it right. Its confident and smartly booked.
Enough of hints towards future feuds, great main event.
A nice mix of new and old stars.

WWE feels stale compared to this.

Frank Drebin 06-18-2023 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5618824)
If they can leave most of the dumb stuff on dynamite and deliver shows like this every week, then I'll tune in consistently.

This is what I've been saying. They hopefully put all the guys who have the worst....let's call it.... "talent / utilization ratio" and gave them a much better platform. Wrestling on Saturday. Cartoons on Wednesday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5618826)
Christian Cage should be the TNT Champion and Luchasaurus should just wrestle jobbers for him when he doesn’t want to work.

Thatsssssss.....what it kinda looks like they're going to do in the short term, actually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5618841)
People don’t want to hear Cornette review shows he might actually enjoy. His “What the fuck!” rants are the only reason he reviews current wrestling to begin with.

I mean, personally I’d prefer he not review any current stuff at all but his hate rants are what draws.

They just want to hear analysis. Its just as interesting when he says something couldn't have been pulled off any better and why.

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2023 07:27 AM

To clarify: I both want Christian Cage to declare himself as above the TNT Title, but also have the strap over his shoulder and say “our title.”

Corporate CockSnogger 06-18-2023 07:43 AM

Skimmed through it. Seemed good. Would probably have watched more of the Andrade v Buddy match if I had time.

If they add more titles for this show though then I’m out altogether. Brand splits and two world titles were the worst thing to ever happen to WWE. There’s already too many belts in AEW as it is, along with all their affiliates like ROH and NJPW. I assume they’ll be going with another world title though with punk having a belt in his bag.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-18-2023 08:13 AM

Punk's promo was very good (albeit not his best work and I'm not sure he was trying for an all-timer). He's a great orator. If you didn't like it, you just have a hard-on for him.

rez 06-18-2023 08:30 AM

Good show. Didn't even fast forward once

Evil Vito 06-18-2023 08:31 AM

Very solid debut episode I thought. Lots of good hard-hitting action. Might not be able to watch live most weeks but I’m intrigued so far.

Evil Vito 06-18-2023 08:32 AM

Andrade/Buddy in particular was the tits.

Evil Vito 06-18-2023 08:34 AM

I don’t mind Luchasaurus as TNT champion because Christian acting like he won the title is great stuff.

I dig the TNT Title mostly being contested between hosses. It’s a nice distinction with Cassidy having 15 minute title defenses against workhorse-style guys every Wednesday.

Evil Vito 06-18-2023 08:39 AM

They got me to bite in the main event. When they showed Dax and Cash being held at bay by BCG repeatedly, I thought Punk might’ve actually lost via passing out to the choke from Joe and that would’ve been a fascinating social experiment with that crowd.

Evil Vito 06-18-2023 08:41 AM

Think they might do Punk vs Jay White next week if Punk isn’t booked at Forbidden Door

Can see NJPW not wanting White at the PPV feeling it might violate the loser leaves NJPW stip

Destor 06-18-2023 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5618857)
Punk's promo was very good (albeit not his best work and I'm not sure he was trying for an all-timer). He's a great orator. If you didn't like it, you just have a hard-on for him.

he literally spent 4 minutes pandering with cheap pops. You've got it backward. If you thought that was anything other than a run of the mill promo youve got a hard on for him. It was lazy work. I a month that promo will never come up again.

#1-norm-fan 06-18-2023 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5618843)
Nah, they're rare enough that its like a special treat when he does it

Right, but if the assumption is that he might switch over because the show is good then it’s no longer special after a while.

I have a feeling this will just get added to the rotation unfortunately.

xrodmuc316 06-18-2023 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5618865)
he literally spent 4 minutes pandering with cheap pops. You've got it backward. If you thought that was anything other than a run of the mill promo youve got a hard on for him. It was lazy work. I a month that promo will never come up again.

Phil Mark's gonna Mark!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5618857)
You just have to like Phil because I like Phil, otherwise you just don't like Phil because you are attracted to Phil!

Come on man lol

Fignuts 06-18-2023 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5618866)
Right, but if the assumption is that he might switch over because the show is good then it’s no longer special after a while.

I have a feeling this will just get added to the rotation unfortunately.

Drebin has it right. I think you underestimate how much people enjoy jim's analysis, regardless of whether it's positive or negative.

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2023 02:19 PM

Punk’s promo was good. Not an all-timer, as Dale said, but it ticked all the boxes. It addressed where he was and created a narrative about his crowd reaction (“cheer me, boo me, love me, hate me”). The Bucks jab was good. Set the show up as not being about “deserving” it, or about match quality, but about the kayfabe.

He was in a tough spot and he overachieved considering his work was going to be under a microscope.

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2023 02:22 PM

Someone got into the guys’ ears about how to work too. You’re getting stories coming out of the action. Way better than the usual Dynamite fare.

xrodmuc316 06-18-2023 02:42 PM

Went out of my way to watch Andrade vs Buddy, it was a very good decision. Awesome match.


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