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Tony Khan terminates CM Punk's AEW contract
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement from All Elite Wrestling and Tony Khan <a href="https://t.co/3MtW6MkGDf">pic.twitter.com/3MtW6MkGDf</a></p>— All Elite Wrestling (@AEW) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1698071772543738090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
https://media.tenor.com/IYRgxFlQHEoA...oala-botch.gif I figured it would be nice to consolidate the discussion related to CM Punk in one thread. I had a few questions regarding the incident at ALL IN. Did Jack Perry get permission to use "real glass" during his zero hour title defense? If so, is it Punk's place to intervene as a veteran (not disregarding his concern for Perry's health)? Isn't it hypocritical that Punk would get upset at Perry for his comment considering his ascension in WWE relied heavily on snarky comments? https://media.tenor.com/mKaHEwkxgMkA...or-nothing.gif Collision was suppose to be a drama free environment, yeah? Is he setting a good example as the locker room leader by taking shots at the Bucks and Page when he's not involved in a program with them? P. S. What is this guy's fascination with being a locker room leader? It reminds me of when Booker threw trash on the floor to make a point. Quote:
Do you think Punk would push around his weight if he were in a locker room with guys like Bob Holly, Booker, Taker and others? Do you think Punk would've behaved similarly if Powerhouse Hobbs or Mox would've defied him? https://media.tenor.com/CFF9ts7tJEAA...punk-botch.gif |
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I think CM Punk is the greatest wrestler of the modern post attitude generation and at this point he can say and do whatever he wants without any critics because he earned it by being that good.
It is a point at which a person becomes that damn good at something that they should do whatever they want. I think Punk could have been MUCH bigger than he was in the WWE if the creative team booked objectively, the man could have been the face of the company for a decade. Being a leader dont mean you sit on your hands with your mouth shut, Punk calls things out how he sees them and younger wrestlers should sit down and listen. |
When the antivaxxers think Punk is the greatest it's safe to assume he's the drizzling shits.
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CM Punk is a good on the mic, but so what. There are plenty of guys good on the mic who arent bitter fragile old dickheads trying to start fights with their coworkers.
If he was as good as he thinks he is, maybe people would be more inclined to take his advice. |
If he was as good as he thinks he is every living creature in the Universe would recognize him as the greatest athlete of all time.
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New details emerging everyday. We will never get the real story of what happened.
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Remember when WWE released a video focusing on CM Punk's buttocks? (minus the music)
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First of all, we’ve already got a thread for this. Fuck GD and their attention seeking ways.
Smeat reports bullshit without any critical thinking applied. I’m pro-vax, pro-science — fuck The Elite and go Punk. Young talent does want to listen to Punk. Look at Collision. Don’t believe the Elite/Meltzer myths. Punk’s the only difference-maker in that company and he’s constantly fucked with. I don’t know how he puts up with it. |
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I think Seph is referring to thekrow as anti-vax :o
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So apparently Punk saw this and that was what got him yelling at Tiny:
Punk felt this was bullshit after his travel issues snub. "Why did I have to ride a fucking train but you got a limo for him?" was his reaction. |
Punk was just offended that London's train wasn't as shitty as the Chicago L
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From Jack Perry using Beethoven and having zero presence, to Hook being white bread. Lol at JR burying The Elite too. |
AEW is the gift that just keeps giving…just not for the reasons they intend.
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190lbs and a 39-day reign as FTW Champion. :lol:
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You all should be happy that Daddy Tony gives us a release of our endorphins...perhaps for all the wrong reasons, tho.
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AEW won’t improve without CM Punk. He is tightly wound and far too sensitive, but there is overwhelming evidence of terrible management and an extremely immature and cocky lockerroom. Like, who even is Jack Perry? Everyone is at it now after The Elite made it ok to not have any respect for veterans or want to learn anything at all about being a performer.
They will be stuck doing their meaningless super kick, no sell-fest long after the likes of Regal and Punk have been chased off. The company will not grow as it caters to a niche who consider whatever it is they do as professional wrestling. There is no control and no effort to make people better. As a side, I get Powerhouse Hobbs, but why would anyone be afraid of Moxley? Lol |
Yes. Who even is Jack Perry?
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Y’all show some respect for one of the anointed Four Pillars of Professional Wrestling. He got that title because…well, it’s not his ring work or his promos. He’s going to be good one of these days, I swear.
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Look, the hell with Jack Perry and the Elite. But let's not sit here and say without Punk AEW will never grow. They have had Punk for 2 years, and they have not grown. They have less viewers today than they had before Punk. They sell less tickets in North America than they did before they had Punk. The only thing Punk has helped them grow is their public drama.
All of that aside, the only real issue preventing any growth is the same issue they have always had, they do not have a boss, they have a money mark. What does it take to get fired from.AEW? Seriously, as long as you do not get accused of sexual assault (it is ok to talk about wanting to do it though), or you don't be a Spanish announcer with a hot mic being racist on the show, you are pretty much free to do whatever you want in AEW without losing your job. At worse, you will just get to sit home getting paid. |
Imagine how much worse they would be doing without Punk. He’s also one of the few guys breathing any sense into anything. If they lose him, it’s way more Elite shenanigans. You’ll be getting the glass on Collision.
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Tony Khan and the Wild West locker room is a huge, HUGE problem.
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CM Punk reunited with his idol / locker room leader, John Bradshaw Layfield.
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JBL: told you it wasnt that bad in the fed.
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Wow! He really got you there, Seph :roll:
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Just because a bunch of assholes are assholes, that does not make a bitter asshole the asshole savior.
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Ironically, you're kind of proving the point of my post. |
Like, did you see Noid get defensive and puff his chest up at a post he knows was tongue-in-cheek and directly specifically at thekrow? Did anyone else point out they are pro-science and pro-vax? Or did everyone else know that post wasn't about them and was clearly just meant to shit talk a specific person?
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Does anyone here even think that I seriously meant all Punk marks are idiots? Anyone at all? Show of hands so I know who to laugh at.
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Did you think my reply was completely serious? You just punched yourself in the nuts to…show me, I guess?
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Rasslin is very serious business.
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Actually, I was the mastermind behind the whole goof. Please direct all praises towards me. Thanks <3
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CM Punk received validation from Roddy Piper and Dusty Rhodes. He doesn't care about basement dwelling neckbeards.
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I was the one behind everything that transpired between Seph and Noid. It was all part of the plan.
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I really hope they release the backstage footage from ALL IN.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is footage of the incident that took place between CM Punk & Jack Perry at AEW All In, as there are cameras all over Wembley.<br><br>(Fightful Select). <a href="https://t.co/goGs0iHbUS">pic.twitter.com/goGs0iHbUS</a></p>— Wrestle Ops (@WrestleOps) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestleOps/status/1697289685234561033?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
CM Punk is having the time of his life
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Apparently there is footage of the fight. Somehow I don’t think anti-Punkers are going to accept evidence though.
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Even if the footage shows Punk was in the right, nothing will be done from a disciplinary perspective.
Watched Booker T comment on the situation yesterday stating that everyone should understand their position in pecking order and that Punk was brought into be the quarterback. I imagine a lot of the harassment/bullying (if we can call it that) that CM Punk is experiencing stems from people not wanting to accept this. |
If Punk was brought in to be the quarterback and leader, maybe he should find a better way to deal with issues than just fighting people...
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I get the CM Punk hate-boner, but he’s not the bad guy in this situation. |
Don't forget Booker T going into business for himself when he threw trash on the floor when Punk declared himself as the locker room leader. Need more fairlsafes.
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If Bret Hart got into a fight with Scott Hall. Then he got into a fight with Sean Waltman. Then he had words with Justin Credible. Then he got into a scuffle with Paul Diamond. Imagine writing off the problem as Bret Hart. |
Or when Taker lost his shite on Punk for dressing and smelling like a hobo while he was the World's Heavyweight Champion. He went so into business for himself that he buried Punk in one of the most forgettable HIAC matches of all time.
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Just finished - how can anyone not like this man? Honest, self-deprecating with respect for those who came before him. |
I’ve got about 8 mins left, but I’m surprised I stuck around for the speech. Good stuff. Punk is charming, warm and funny. He’s a bigger man that me too for giving Val Venis his professional props.
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Lol! Meltzer is claiming that a “neutral source” (one that just happens to contact Dave Meltzer. A non-wrestling person who happened to be in gorilla, mind you, and witnessed the whoooooole thing said Punk got in Perry‘s face aggressively asking him if he’s got a problem. Perry said he was just trying to get heat as a heel (this would be absolute bullshit, by the way). Punk then shoved Perry, sucker punched him after Perry got in his face (not sure that counts as a sucker punch, but anyway), then choked Perry. Punk then LUNGED at Tony Khan and told him “I quit!” as wrestlers were holding him back.
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Punk then killed and ate his own dog in front of everyone.
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#LiveTheGimmick
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I would have loved to have seen what the ultimate CM Punk fan boy would have done if Punk had hit him in the face :lol: |
"Guys he was going to hug me for helping him with Jack and it just happened that when he Brought his arm around it hit me in the eye"
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Dave "No Ulterior Motives And Only Neutral Sources" Meltzer.
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And then Perry got choked.
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I wonder if Punk would be brave enough to get into Goldberg's face if he felt wronged...
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Even TK would laugh at the soft punch. :shifty: |
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Petition to change the thread title to "The Official CM Drama thread"
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The official soft-rasslers thread.
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If Enzo had a dime for everytime Phil was soft..... he'd have INFINITE DIMES!
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I was just coming here to make a thread about this. I was going to ask what is wrong with this guy? Is this a worked shoot or something where he just pisses off everyone in the lockeroom?
If this is not some wrestling angle then seriously what's wrong with this dude? lol. It seems like wrestlers either love him or despise him with no in between |
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Reflecting on the three threads about CM Punk, it's clear that people have chosen sides and no amount of debating will change anyone's mind.
Rrgardless of what we think of him, watching him accept that award it's clear he's won at life. He's happily married,baccomplished his dreams, has friends who love him and obtained the respect/"seal of approval" of the wrestling legends he grew up admiring. He also appears to be happy that he's been able to impart advice to younger wrestlers who are willing to take it on and with the positive impact he's has on the lives of his fans. It's clear he wanted to give back to the business as someone who's drawn money by providingbadvice like those before him did for him (there's an interview with Hobbs who talks about CM Punk sitting down with him after every match and reviewing his with him work). Alas, not everyone is going to be receptive. It's a bigger conversation around human needs/values. If you're someone who's highest values are needing to feel certainty along with important and you have this guy come in who is influential and in many ways minimises your work/contributions you're going to feel threatened and want to do what you can to fulfil/restore those needs. On the other hand, if your highest needs/values are more around growth you might be more receptive to what Punk has to offer. I've oversimplified this but I can empathise with how some of the "AEW Originals" might be feeling. |
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Punk’s big issues have been around The Elite’s camp, who were immediately handed power and have had an “everything is awesome” approach that has been threatened by someone coming in and pointing out there is actually an effective and ineffective way to do this. And Tony Khan won’t let the side with evidence on its side stand, he’s trying to embolden everyone and that’s allowing the party in the wrong to continue to fuck with people’s shit. |
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If AEW were a nuclear power plant, CM Punk would be Frank Grimes and The Elite would be Homer.
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“When people tell me that they don’t like me or that the internet is mad at me, I just chuckle because Roddy Piper liked me. Dusty Rhodes liked me and Harley Race liked me. And that means more than anything else in the world because these legends put their stamp on me before anyone else did. It gave me the confidence and it gave me the ability to succeed.” - CM Punk
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How about CM Phil got his ass beat so embarrassingly twice in UFC, that he should have never been given a top spot, or at the very least not a bad ass kick everybody's ass gimmick.
The fact that he has got into fights with the 3 weakest dudes who are playing wrestlers is proof he at least learned one lesson from UFC, dont get tough with anybody unless they are literal sheltered California gymnast. |
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As a massive UFC fan, I don't even care about CM Punk's UFC run. Got a couple of nice entrances and video packages. He started in his late 30s. Anyone who knows anything about MMA wasn't expecting much. As far as UFC goes, he's an after thought.
They're different worlds. People watch AEW and accept Orange Cassidy's leg kicks and defend the clearly fake stuff a lot of the are the same people who come after CM Punk and his performances in the UFC. I can buy though him training MMA for years at this point with top MMA talent, he'd be able to defend himself in a fight. |
Should we celebrate the fact that CM Punk tried his luck in UFC despite not being talented enough? Or should we just call a spade a spade? I wonder if he was delusional enough to believe he'd have the same amount of success as Lesnar.
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I think it's cool that he was willing to do something that he wanted to do knowing that if he was exposed (which he was) there would be people who would criticise him. In a world where people care way too much about the voices and opinions on the outside, it's refreshing to watch someone put themselves out there like that in order to fulfil a desire he had. More people would be happier and more fulfilled if they went after what they wanted.
He started in his late 30s with no MMA background in a league with people having trained since they were children. He wasn't going to be Brock. WWE/AEW talent in the same situation would have gotten the same results. |
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Look, Punk represents what I want in wrestling which is a major reason why I'm on team Punk. Whether he's an ass hat or not he knows wrestling, wrestling history and respects it. The style he preferres is what I prefer and when he's around we get more of that.
I'm not a fan of cartoon characters, flippidy shit, kicking out after a devastating piledriver on a chair, blood in every match and all that. I want stories and rivalries that pull me in. Telling and advancing those stories while in the ring during matches. I don't feel I get that with what The Elite or TK do on their own. Its just matches thrown out there because "it'll be a good match". There's little in the way of build and its all over after a couple of weeks. I want Punk there because he knows what people like me want and I don't want that to go away from AEW. The structure is there where the best in wrestling can happen which can't always be done in the WWE format. If Punk leaves again, more opportunities will be missed and it sucks when those go by the wayside. |
Rhodes seems to be doing a better version of that at the moment.
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It's around in pockets. Would be nice if it was all in one place.
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