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BCWWF 06-23-2004 03:15 AM

MLB Season Thread
 
This is kind of belated, but just an ongoing chat about games that take place.

I'll start, Nomar's grand slam against the Twins was key

Loose Cannon 06-23-2004 03:19 AM

Texas back in First.

The Outlaw 06-23-2004 04:16 AM

Braves 32-37 :'(

The Miz 06-23-2004 04:30 AM

go mariners :shifty:

BCWWF 06-23-2004 08:28 PM

Speaking of the Mariners, how do you feel now Eddie?

"Its not about the money...I am just leaving the team that developed me for nine years and whose fans adopted me because even though they don't have a lot of money, they won't pay me as much."

Eddie, you put your foot in your mouth there. You could have stayed with the team that loved you and been in contention again, but you decided to say it wasn't about the money while leaving for more money. Eddie was a solid closer, but he was never a great pitcher, every one of his saves included like two hits. We would have loved to keep him, but I hope he's enjoying the hole he's dug for himself.

I hope the Twins sign a bunch of guys to extensions during the season just to make fun of Eddie.

DaveWadding 06-23-2004 08:54 PM

I think it's hilarious how every player who leaves Minnesota "wasn't really that good, anyways"

BCWWF 06-23-2004 09:09 PM

He was better than everyone in our bullpen now besides Nathan, but by having 40 saves he was in the same group as Gagne, Wagner, Rivera, Foulke, etc, who were actually great pictures.

John Rocker 06-23-2004 09:13 PM

John Rocker + Atlanta Braves = Championships

BCWWF 06-23-2004 09:15 PM

I'll say the same thing for two other plays Dave. David Ortiz and Chauncey Billups.

Both were good players when they were in Minnesota, and had they stayed they never would have been great. Put Ortiz in Fenway, he can totally take advantage of their walls and lineup, and now he is an MVP candidate. He wasn't that good in Minnesota, and I have no shame that we didn't keep him.

The same thing with Chauncey Billups, he was good in Minnesota, but he wasn't great. We would have liked to keep him, but he saw better opportunities in the East and went there, and did amazing things. I personally don't think he would have been as good if he stayed with Minnesota, because he fits perfectly in with the Pistons. It worked out better for both teams, because Detroit wouldn't have won without him, and we wouldn't have done anything without Sam Cassell, even if we still did have Chauncey.

If you want to dispute me and prove that Eddie Guardado actually was a great pitcher, and worth every cent he is paid, than do it. If you saw him pitch everynight for two years and give up at least one hit per save, you would know that his stats don't reflect his ability. He pitches straight fastballs, and it works for the most part, and he would have been a good asset on our team, but he decided that he was better than he is and demanded more money, and Seattle picked it up. We're still leading the division and beating the Red Sox right now, how are the Diamondbacks doing?

BCWWF 06-23-2004 09:23 PM

Whoa, that was a pretty weird set of posts by me

Loose Cannon 06-23-2004 09:30 PM

The Sox are ahead of the TWINS. Twins play in a weak ass division too.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 06-23-2004 09:38 PM

AL Central is a joke

BCWWF 06-23-2004 09:45 PM

4-1 in the bottom of the 6th actually

Loose Cannon 06-23-2004 09:56 PM

Oh, I thought you were talking about standings, not a game,

OssMan 06-23-2004 10:08 PM

At least the Mets have Glavine.

The Miz 06-23-2004 10:32 PM

Fuck Guardado, everyday eddie my ass. You can have him back, we dont like him here

Why Kaz why :'(

OssMan 06-23-2004 10:37 PM

35-34 :-\

Also check out Jon Lieber in the following pic:

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/image...9/cNgIQQyZ.jpg

like he got spit on his face or something

BCWWF 06-23-2004 10:46 PM

I'm not sure if I like Fenway or hate it. Its got the messed up walls and stuff, which can be cool cause theres a lot of hits and a lot of weird stuff happens, but at the same time it seems like Boston uses it as a huge home field advantage, cause they know where to hit it and everything. I get freaked out everytime theres a fly to right, because a normal fly has like a 95% chance of bring gone in right field. Lets just hope the Twins can win this

BCWWF 06-24-2004 05:37 PM

That Twins/Red Sox series was overall pretty good. We had a grand slam, some great pitching, good hitting, and great defense. Exciting to say the least, too bad 90% of our games are against White Sox, Royals, Indians, Tigers :-/

The Miz 06-24-2004 11:20 PM

Houston gets:
Carlos Beltran CF

Oakland gets:
Octavio Dotel CP
$$$

Kansas City gets:
Mike Teahen 3B
Mike Wood RP
John Buck C

Even though Beltran is obviouslt the big name I think Oakland raped everybody here. They'd been the hottest team in baseball 2 weeks ago and got cold last week but it was due to their bullpen. Rhodes was not reliable as the closer but he is nasty as the set-up man.

The real loser in this deal is Craig Biggio. He has to change positions for the 4th time. :(

Loose Cannon 06-24-2004 11:49 PM

Jeez, Ponson 3-10, Ouch. Great pickup for Oakland BTW. They really needed a closer.

D-Rays just smacked the Jays 19-13 too. You know, I feel sorry for the Rays, throw them in the Central and they are a 2ND place team.

The Outlaw 06-25-2004 12:31 AM

Where will Biggio move to? Left field?

He probably won't mind, he seems to be the kind of player to change positions for the good of the team.

Loose Cannon 06-25-2004 12:39 AM

Yeah, Biggio's going to left. Beltran will be gone by next year though. The Stros want to win now and they might just pull it off.

The Outlaw 06-25-2004 12:49 AM

I figured he'd be moving over since they got Hidalgo out of the outfield.

They are looking pretty stacked now.

YOUR Hero 06-25-2004 01:48 AM

They'll trade Hildago soon enough.

The Miz 06-25-2004 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
They'll trade Hildago soon enough.

Maybe as soon as last week. :p

The Outlaw 06-25-2004 02:27 AM

lol

Yeah he's a Met now.

YOUR Hero 06-25-2004 02:30 AM

Is he? LOL

Told ya. :p

BCWWF 06-25-2004 03:19 AM

It seems like the Astro's are losing relievers pretty hard, first Billy Wagner now Dotel, who do they have still? It this going to come back to bite them or do they have a solid enough pen?

They still have some work to do, because I think as of right now both the Cubs and Cardinals are better teams.

The Miz 06-25-2004 12:08 PM

Brad Lidge's 100 mph heater will close

BCWWF 06-25-2004 06:35 PM

God, I just turned on FSN and was like "Whoa, I thought the Twins were only playing three at Fenway, I didn't know they had another day game." Then after watching for a little, I was like, whoa, this is going into extra innings too, and Balfour is pitching hot again! But then Bert said something that set it off, and I am pissed that I just got punk'd.

YOUR Hero 06-25-2004 11:17 PM

Yup, Lidge will close.

DegenerationY 06-25-2004 11:35 PM

Woo, Giants once again owning in the West, as weak as the division is.

HOWEVER, the Giants are beating the A's 5-0 in the second inning, courtesy of back to back homers against none other than Barry Zito.

BTW, there was that little thing about the sweep against LA - the first 4 game sweep of the Dodgers since 1935 (or thereabouts).

I'm so stoked for the rest of this season :D

Sensei Of Mattitude 06-26-2004 12:01 AM

are the Astros going with David Weathers as their closer now?

If these are 3 top ass prospects (the ones KC got) they should make out real well. Randa is a billion years old.

Go Phils. We need a starter.

The Outlaw 06-26-2004 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sensei Of Mattitude
are the Astros going with David Weathers as their closer now?

If these are 3 top ass prospects (the ones KC got) they should make out real well. Randa is a billion years old.

Go Phils. We need a starter.

Lidge.

BCWWF 06-26-2004 02:49 AM

Wasn't Dotel having some struggles closing for Houston?

The Miz 06-26-2004 03:11 PM

Not near the sruggles of Rhodes/Mecir

BCWWF 06-27-2004 03:16 PM

Has anyone else seen the new red hats the Twins wear sometimes? I kinda like em

BCWWF 06-28-2004 04:44 AM

Freddy Garcia to the White Sox for Miguel Olivo.

If the Twins don't make a move, I think this will work out better than Alomar and Everett did last year for the White Sox. They are already putting up a lot of runs, even with Magglio out. Olivo was good, but it won't kill them. The Twins either need to get themselves another starting pitcher, setup man, or power hitter, otherwise this could be the death of us.

The Outlaw 06-29-2004 07:29 PM

Talks about Magglio being traded to Atlanta for A. Jones.

:(

Sensei Of Mattitude 06-29-2004 07:50 PM

Andruw Jones is not what he once was but he is still pretty damn good. Magglio has a bum knee.

If it happens, I dont know who would play ChiSox RF, but JD Drew moves to CF and Mags plays RF for ATL

The Outlaw 06-29-2004 07:54 PM

Fuck that. I'd rather have Druw.

BCWWF 06-29-2004 10:50 PM

Wasn't it Andruw and Russ Ortiz? Or just Andruw? (I think thats how you spell his name)


Anyway, I think they're better off with Magglio than anybody else. But meh.

YOUR Hero 06-29-2004 11:02 PM

Andruw Jones is a stud. Can't trade him.

Loose Cannon 06-29-2004 11:19 PM

Yanks just pounded Boston 11-3. :yes:

YOUR Hero 06-29-2004 11:22 PM

Giambi and his roided body fell apart again today I understand.

Loose Cannon 06-29-2004 11:25 PM

HEY, how are those Jays doing? I heard Joe Carter Bobblehead night was a smash

Jesus Shuttlesworth 06-29-2004 11:29 PM

Red Sox played like shit

All the radio stations around here are starting to bash Millar

I predict if he wasn't such a "clubhouse" guy he would be long gone, he is a liability out in the field. No matter where you put him...ridiculous

The Outlaw 06-29-2004 11:30 PM

Weak.

At first it was Mag for Russ, but since the Sox received Garcia, tha talks shifted from Ortiz to Andruw.

I dunno, Andruw can hit and play defense considering he has what, 6 gold gloves? Magglio is a stud at the plate but isn't that great in the field. Plus there's 4 years difference I think.

Dunno, I'd still want Andruw.

Loose Cannon 06-29-2004 11:34 PM

Not to sound like a jackass, but I can't stand that guy Milar. He just looks like an ass. Wasn't he the guy that started that whole "Cowboy Up" thing?

Loose Cannon 06-29-2004 11:35 PM

I think I'd rather have Magglio then Jones, but Jones has been a Brave all his career, so I see where your coming from.

YOUR Hero 06-29-2004 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
HEY, how are those Jays doing? I heard Joe Carter Bobblehead night was a smash

What does this have to do with the fact Giambi hasn't done a thing in two years? Except spend time on the DL.

Loose Cannon 06-30-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
What does this have to do with the fact Giambi hasn't done a thing in two years? Except spend time on the DL.

WHAT? OKAY. First of all, last year he played 156 games and hit 41 homers and 107 RBI's. In 2002, he played 155, hit .314 and 41 homers. This year has been slow, but the year is not finished yet. Saying he hasn't done anything in two years because he was on the DL is ridiculous. You're just making stuff up.

YOUR Hero 06-30-2004 12:14 AM

Last year, except for the end of the season, he sucked. His avg. at the end of the year was something like .250 And this year he has what? 11 HR's?

How much is he making per year again?

Loose Cannon 06-30-2004 12:18 AM

Alright, so it's one year then, not two. Every good player has thier bad years. Yiu can't expect big numbers sometimes. Tejada had a bad year last year after he won the MVP. Thta's how things go.

YOUR Hero 06-30-2004 12:18 AM

140 strike outs last year to boot.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 06-30-2004 12:19 AM

What exactly happed with Giambi? What did he "hurt"

YOUR Hero 06-30-2004 12:20 AM

I was counting last year and this year. That's two.

I doubt very much he'll do anything this year eithr. He's hitting like .235, has seen his OBP. drop like a stone and is simply blown up. I suspect by the end of next season, he'll be gone from NY

YOUR Hero 06-30-2004 12:21 AM

All I heard Stima was he was admitted to the hospital. I didn't catch the details.

Loose Cannon 06-30-2004 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
I was counting last year and this year. That's two.

I doubt very much he'll do anything this year eithr. He's hitting like .235, has seen his OBP. drop like a stone and is simply blown up. I suspect by the end of next season, he'll be gone from NY

HOW is that 2 years? This year isn't over yet. And he had a .527 Slugging last year and .430 OBP. That's not bad at all.

Dragon 06-30-2004 12:24 AM

They said he had some stomach virus or something making him too weak to play.

Dragon 06-30-2004 12:25 AM

Intestinal parasites apparently.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-30-2004 12:29 AM

The Reds are sucking a big fat penis these days. Tomorrow is Sean Casey bobblehead day and he might not play.

That's it I'm rooting for Oakland

YOUR Hero 06-30-2004 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
HOW is that 2 years? This year isn't over yet. And he had a .527 Slugging last year and .430 OBP. That's not bad at all.

Those numbers are inflated due to who he is and where he plays. He had better production as an A. Considering the lineup he know bats in, there is no way he should have lesser numbers now than before. Even in his first season in NY, his production, except for HR and strike outs totals, has dropped.

OssMan 06-30-2004 12:35 AM

METS VS REDS SUPREME

YOU ARE ON ALA LETS MAKE A BET

OssMan 06-30-2004 12:36 AM

also Mets beat Reds last night :cool:

Loose Cannon 06-30-2004 12:36 AM

Yeah, you have to understand though. When guys, especially stars/power hitters from another team, come to NY, thier numbers drop off. Giambi was not the only star when he arrived in NY, and he ceratinly is not the only one this year. It's hard to adjust when you are not "the man" anymore. And look at A-ROD this year, he started slow and he's not doing as well as he did last year with Texas. But I still don't know why I'm arguing this. He had one bad year, THAT'S it. We aren't even at the all-star break yet, let's finish the season first.

The Outlaw 06-30-2004 05:58 PM

Yeah as much as I hate to agree with a Yankee fan, this is as close as it gets. :(

BTW:

Jun 30 First baseman Jason Giambi, dropped to seventh in the order as his batting average has dipped to .237, was diagnosed with an intestinal parasite. "It's not something you want to hear, but at the same time, it makes you feel good that they finally know what's going on," Giambi told Newsday. "It makes you understand why you've been getting jammed by pitchers throwing 88 miles per hour all over the place." Giambi has been vomiting and feeling weak for the past three weeks. He told Newsday that while he hasn't lost weight despite loss of appetite because he still consumes protein drinks, the illness limited his time in the weight room. "What I'm excited about is that at least we know the reason why and I can fix it," Giambi said. "It's been so hard for me just to get up for the games and it's gotten progressively worse."

The undisclosed parasite, which Giambi likely got from contaminated food or water, is being treated with antibiotics. Team doctors have told Giambi he can return to the lineup once he regains his strength, which could be as early as Wednesday.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 06-30-2004 11:57 PM

Sons of bitches

Bases loaded, no outs...nothing :mad: Bullshit called 3rd strike, but still that's no excuse. How can you not score any runs with the bases load and no outs?

Disgusting

Dragon 07-01-2004 12:30 AM

Nomar with another error. Their defense has really struggled this series.

I don't really follow the Sox games unless they are playing the Yankees, are they always this bad defensively?

Evil Vito 07-01-2004 12:42 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Mets jobbed to the Reds today</font> :(

Loose Cannon 07-01-2004 12:45 AM

lol at Ortiz thinking the ball went right through his glove.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-01-2004 12:47 AM

Nomars error wasnt THAT bad but the errors have really hurt them this series. Usually isn't this bad.

Loose Cannon 07-01-2004 12:48 AM

Ortiz should of scooped that Nomar throw. It was a tough play to make anyway.

Champion of Europa 07-01-2004 12:56 AM

After watching the Yankees vs. Red Sox game, I think I like the Red Sox better, even though the Yankees are the better team.

Johnny Damon is the freakin' man. Although Ortiz fucked up, he is the man as well. Manny failed to impress me, though.

Dragon 07-01-2004 11:54 PM

Good game with the Sox and Yankees so far.

Crazy play by Jeter.

Loose Cannon 07-02-2004 12:31 AM

4-4 14th inning. :cool:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-02-2004 12:38 AM

FUCK

Loose Cannon 07-02-2004 12:39 AM

SWEEP. 5-4 YANKS. And today is another reason why I can't stand fk'n Pedro. I give him complete respect on being a great picture, but was it neccesary to hit Shef. I mean, I understand Pedro geting pissed at Sheff for calling time twice, but you don't hit a guy for that. Come up and in fine, but don't blatanly fk'n hit him.

But nice plays by Reese and then Jeter

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-02-2004 12:41 AM

Veritek staring down that guy when he tried to sweep his legs was gangsta

Fuckin pissed about the game though. Why the fuck can't the Sox score runs :mad: :mad:

Loose Cannon 07-02-2004 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives
Hands Loose Cannon a broom..

start sweeping..


Vel, I got your broom, I think you might need it now. :cool:

Dragon 07-02-2004 12:57 AM

Crazy game.

Champion of Europa 07-02-2004 02:00 AM

Shit! Sox lost again? Damn. Can someone give me a rundown cause it wasn't televised here?

Gonzo 07-02-2004 02:00 AM

Mets? What? What? What!?

The Outlaw 07-02-2004 02:19 AM

LOL @ the double "triple" play by Jeter.

Also, Sheff would murder Pedro.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-02-2004 02:26 AM

LOL why do you say that

I always saw Sheff was one of those huge guys that cannot fight at all. Not saying Pedro can rumble or anything though

The Outlaw 07-02-2004 02:27 AM

I dunno

I always figured Sheff could hold his own pretty well. He was pretty pissed too. Pedro just kind of looked at him.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-02-2004 02:30 AM

Pedro hits everyone and doesn't even care. Everybody talks tough but the only person to ever actually go after him was Zimmer lol

The Outlaw 07-02-2004 02:30 AM

ANd that turned into quite a funny sight :eek:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-02-2004 02:35 AM

The Red Sox/Yankees game was probably the best game I have seen all season. So much crazy shit going on. That Jeter play though, I dunno what he was doing. I think he coulda stopped himself before going like 5 rows deep.

Sheff playing 3rd base lol

BCWWF 07-02-2004 03:00 AM

I thought Sheff was super badass, like grew up in the ghetto and would kill you? Maybe I'm misinformed.

Loose Cannon 07-02-2004 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
The Red Sox/Yankees game was probably the best game I have seen all season. So much crazy shit going on. That Jeter play though, I dunno what he was doing. I think he coulda stopped himself before going like 5 rows deep.

Sheff playing 3rd base lol

Yeah, Sheff hasn't played 3rd since 93. I don't think Jeter could of stopped, he was going full speed and you now how hard it is to stop doing shit like that.

Dragon 07-02-2004 12:29 PM

Yeah, it looked like it would have been tough to stop when he's running full speed.

A lot of things I've watched recapping the game were talking about how Nomar didn't get involved at all. While everyone else was up off the bench cheering on the team, he never left the bench at all.

Champion of Europa 07-02-2004 09:17 PM

Watching the Red Sox vs. the Braves :heart:

Ortiz is the man. :heart:

Also, Varitek is starting to grow on me.

But Johnny Damon struck out. :(

Rameriez still hasn't impressed me.

Champion of Europa 07-02-2004 11:37 PM

WOOO! Damon scores to put the Sox ahead 3-2 in the 10th.

I'm so buying a Damon jersey.

I hope the Red Sox defense doesn't blow this.

Champion of Europa 07-02-2004 11:40 PM

SHIT. Tied again.

Champion of Europa 07-03-2004 12:21 AM

FUCKING BRAVES :mad:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 07-03-2004 01:10 AM

Manny proves once again he is the only clutch guy on the team

But hes a still a bum though right VEL? Because he doesn't run out popflys hahaha

The Miz 07-03-2004 01:44 AM

lol, the red sox are done.

The Outlaw 07-03-2004 04:04 AM

YEAH WHAT NICK GREEN BITCHES


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