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yianni 08-31-2004 02:49 AM

UEFA World Cup Qualifiers
 
They get into full swing this weekend. Obviously with most of the football followers on here being British, this topic will turn out as a discussion on the British national teams. What do you Englishlads think of your chances against Austria this weekend? I don't know much about their football but I'd say you guys would have an away win there. Wales should overcome Azerbaijan, and Scotland should...well...who knows. :lol:

Greece open their Germany 2006 campaign with an away game as well, against neigbouring Albania. Hopefully they keep up the form which saw them win the Euro, and beat the blockheads. Can't wait for Greece-Turkey in Greece next week though, that will be fucking insane. :eek: :y:

Discuss whatever you want about the qualifiers in UEFA or anywhere else in the world.

Wengerland 08-31-2004 06:53 AM

I think we should win both our games to be honest (Poland away on wednesday), 4 points would be alright though.That's mainly based on their recent home defeats in friendlies but Austria lost at home to Holland and Czech Republic in their last qualifying campaign and Poland finished behind Latvia in their group. Heskey shouldn't have been dropped though, we need an alternative option up front and it looks like he's been dropped because of one bad game at Tottenham, which is unfair considering he got good reviews against Pompey and scored against Man City.

I'm trusting Theo's in your squad, yianni :love:

packt up 08-31-2004 08:36 AM

If we don't win both games just wait for all the sven haters to resurface again.

In the FA.

I reckon dropping Heskey was the right decision although we do lack a target man upfront. Defoe seriously deserves a chance.

And I hope Wright Phillipsssssssssssssss gets a chance though apparently he might miss out with injury :(.

I feel we will win both to be honest. Anything to get me away from the shit going on at St James' these days :(.

deathtrap 08-31-2004 08:55 AM

I remember in the 2002 World Cup, when Australia got knocked out of the final qualifers, an Aussie substitue teacher took a day off work

yianni 08-31-2004 09:07 AM

And they won't qualify yet again this time around, deathtrap, the way they're bloody going at the moment.

deathtrap 08-31-2004 09:08 AM

Hm, I can see them slipping up against British Samoa

yianni 08-31-2004 09:17 AM

They're ordinary but not THAT bad...:p

Loose Cannon 08-31-2004 09:26 AM

Czechs should go through this time. Holland will be the toughest to get by.

Team Sheep 08-31-2004 10:27 AM

I've got my Wales v Northern Ireland tickets secured :cool: Hopefully we can get 6 points in our opening 2 games (Azerbaijan, N Ireland) but you just never know in football these days. Baku is no easy place to go and play a game of football, especially after a tiring journey and rather depressing surroundings. But footballers are professionals, so hopefulyy they can overcome that and play some class footy and fly home with 3 points in the bag. I like our form going into these qualifiers. In our last five games we:

Beat Scotland at home 4-0

Beat Hungary away 2-1

Drew with Norway away 0-0 (in that game we must have had about 3-4 max Premiership players on the field, and all the rest were either Championship or League 1 players)

Beat Canada at home 1-0

Beat Latvia away 2-0.

Also, in our last 7 games we have scored 9 goals and conceded just 2. And with the form Hartson and Bellamy are in at the moment, I think this will turn out to be an enjoyable campaign for us Welsh. Certainly looking forward to it :y:

El Capitano Gatisto 08-31-2004 03:00 PM

Ireland start off with Cyprus on Saturday and then away to Swizterland next Wednesday.

We've got a tough group, with basically all the teams fighting it out behind France. I'm basically going to rule out getting anything from France and take any kind of encouraging performance as a bonus.

I think we're good enough to finish second, I just hope we play to our abilities. Roy is back, so he'll put some composure and experience, as well as quality, back into central midfield.

Also, since the Euro 2004 qualifying campaign, a number of players have emerged as international players: Andy O'Brien, Liam Miller and Andy Reid in particular, with Graham Barrett impressing and Jon Macken a badly needed extra striking option.

Our first eleven for the most part should be:

Given
Carr
O'Shea
O'Brien
Cunningham
Andy Reid
Kilbane
Roy Keane
Miller
Duff
Robbie Keane

Holland, Morrison, Finnan, Barrett etc. will figure strongly.

That's a talented and hard working side. Enough to dismiss the likes of Switzerland.

Rob 08-31-2004 04:34 PM

We better win. That's all I'm saying.

Danny Electric 08-31-2004 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto
Ireland start off with Cyprus on Saturday and then away to Swizterland next Wednesday.

We've got a tough group, with basically all the teams fighting it out behind France. I'm basically going to rule out getting anything from France and take any kind of encouraging performance as a bonus.

I think we're good enough to finish second, I just hope we play to our abilities. Roy is back, so he'll put some composure and experience, as well as quality, back into central midfield.

Also, since the Euro 2004 qualifying campaign, a number of players have emerged as international players: Andy O'Brien, Liam Miller and Andy Reid in particular, with Graham Barrett impressing and Jon Macken a badly needed extra striking option.

Our first eleven for the most part should be:

Given
Carr
O'Shea
O'Brien
Cunningham
Andy Reid
Kilbane
Roy Keane
Miller
Duff
Robbie Keane

Holland, Morrison, Finnan, Barrett etc. will figure strongly.

That's a talented and hard working side. Enough to dismiss the likes of Switzerland.


I can see you beating France at home, they are not a great side and they're beatable. But then I see you slipping up against one of the smaller sides.
I hope you qualify though, unlucky at the last world cup.

Wengerland 09-01-2004 06:33 AM

Zidane retiring from internationals is a big blow for France, like Scholes for England, but i can still see them qualifying.

Ireland should be good enough for 2nd and they'll get it hopefully.

The side ECG posted is certainly good enough, i'd maybe have Holland ahead of Kilbane but he's injured right now anyway.Roy Keane will probably miss the games though and i read this morning that Delap and Miller are doubtful too, Connolly almost certainly out but,given his form for us so far, that's not too much of a bad thing.

El Capitano Gatisto 09-01-2004 07:27 AM

Delap has strangely never figured for Ireland. I'd rather have Kilbane over Holland. Holland is kind of shit. Kilbane has that work ethic and penetration about his game. He really fits nicely into central midfield. Good engine, box to box man. He's a powerful runner, and good at getting into the box for crosses.

Team Sheep 09-03-2004 02:30 PM

lol, who saw that news report on Sky Sports News earlier? The reporter was in the stadium and there was an Austrian flag and a Union Jack hanging up there. Nobody had noticed anything wrong with it until someone from Sky contacted the head guy at the stadium and pointed it out. Then a guy went to the roof of the stadium, embarrasedly pulled down the Union Jack and took it away. The Stadium manager was said to be furious, and promised that there will be a St. George's cross there by kick off tomorrow. They said this was because Austria haven't played England for ages and the last time they played eachother, it was kind of a trend to bring Union Jacks to matches, but nobody hardly does it anymore. Dumbass Austrians :lol:

Rob 09-03-2004 08:42 PM

As opposed to the dumb arse English fans who bring Union Jacks to matches or the dumb arse England team who play the BRITISH national anthem before games?

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 04:08 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">LOL what a goal. That was just smart play.

Becks :love:</font>

ct2k 09-04-2004 04:21 PM

1-0 against Austria and Poland beat the Northern Irish scum 3-0:cool:

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 05:05 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Steven Gerrard. What a goal.

COME ON</font>

BCWWF 09-04-2004 05:09 PM

I'm getting France and Israel right now on the international channel, its a really slow game though

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 05:10 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">whooooo! David James!</font>

The Mackem 09-04-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto
Kilbane has that work ethic and penetration about his game. He really fits nicely into central midfield. Good engine, box to box man. He's a powerful runner, and good at getting into the box for crosses.

Try telling that to about 30 000 Sunderland fans :'(

The Mackem 09-04-2004 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
whooooo! David James!

lol

packt up 09-04-2004 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem
Try telling that to about 30 000 Sunderland fans :'(

lol we called him Skillbane.

Great irony we Geordies have.

packt up 09-04-2004 05:34 PM

AND AFLAKDFKADLFKAFDAL

David James...can't believe it.

And how Wright Phillips didn't get on the pitch but Jamie Carragher did is beyond me.

Mr. Monday Morning 09-04-2004 05:35 PM

Bye Sven. Take Calamity with you please.

Mr. Monday Morning 09-04-2004 05:38 PM

Oh, nice one on missing from 8 yards Smithy

The Mackem 09-04-2004 05:38 PM

Drawing away to Austria isn't that bad.

packt up 09-04-2004 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem
Drawing away to Austria isn't that bad.

Yes it is you crazy Mackem bastard :foc:

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 05:46 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">it is when you're 2-0 up and in control :$

James was poor, not only letting that goal in but also when he ran out and messed up and let the striker go round him and that shot that went through his arms. I don't think Robinson is particularly great but id rather him.</font>

packt up 09-04-2004 05:53 PM

Drawing against Austria full stop is a bad result.

They are ranked 90th. i.e teams such as Burkina Faso, Kenya, Iceland and Guatemala and EVEN SCOTLAND ;) are better than them. Seriously there are only 205 teams ranked which includes all those tiny ones like Cook Islands therefore they are only halfway in the entire world. Therefore a draw is no where near good enough.

When you consider we were 2-0 up with 30 mins to go its a crime.

The Mackem 09-04-2004 06:02 PM

Ah see I see this kind of stuff all the time from Sunderland. We're always giving people two goal starts and then coming back. Unfortunately there aren't any keepers in the Coca cola Championship that gift you goals.

packt up 09-04-2004 06:04 PM

Yeah thats right Mackem you're used to this shit.

Spare a thought for us who support better teams :(.

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 06:05 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">POOOOOOM for England :cool:</font>

The Mackem 09-04-2004 06:06 PM

Like England :lol:

packt up 09-04-2004 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem
Like England :lol:

Like Newcastle :mad:

Oh wait :( :'(

Team Sheep 09-04-2004 06:08 PM

1-1 away to Azerbaijan doesn't seem so bad now :cool:

packt up 09-04-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">POOOOOOM for England :cool:</font>

My gf served Mart Poom in a supermarket.

She said he had huge hands.

Probably a good job.

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 06:10 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Huge hands eh? ;)

I bet he makes John Oster and Kevin Kyle all embarrassed in the shower after the game :$</font>

The Mackem 09-04-2004 06:11 PM

They don't call him Big Kev for nothing.

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 06:12 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Big Kev? That just means more embarrasment for John Oster then I guess :'(</font>

packt up 09-04-2004 06:13 PM

LOL

Whenever I see him on tele he just looks like the most dopey player ever.

But then I remember that time he scored with a great header. Those crazy Eastern Europeans.

The Mackem 09-04-2004 06:18 PM

He once wrote a letter into a paper (might have been the Telegraph) after an Estonian model called all Estonian men "ugly".

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 06:19 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">he played like 4 times for Pompey ages and ages ago. And Iwan Roberts scored a hat trick against him for Leicester according to WWEngland.

POOOOOOM</font>

Rob 09-04-2004 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haz59
1-1 away to Azerbaijan doesn't seem so bad now :cool:

Sorry it's a lot worse. Austria are a decent team and are miles better than 90th.

Still, England were hilarious. :lol:

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 06:22 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">shhh, we've moved on from that. We're talking about Poom now. :$</font>

The Mackem 09-04-2004 06:23 PM

What was the Scotland score last night? I left the pub and it was still 1-0.

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 06:24 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">got to 1-1 after Raul scored a penalty, then like 2 minutes later the floodlights went out and it chucked it down with rain so everyone went home.

POOOM</font>

Rob 09-04-2004 06:24 PM

7-0 Scotland :shifty:

Rob 09-04-2004 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">got to 1-1 after Raul scored a penalty, then like 2 minutes later the floodlights went out and it chucked it down with rain so everyone went home.

POOOM</font>


Don't listen to him.

The Mackem 09-04-2004 06:27 PM

Big Kev will score on wednesday Rob, mark my words.

Mr. Monday Morning 09-04-2004 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">it is when you're 2-0 up and in control :$

James was poor, not only letting that goal in but also when he ran out and messed up and let the striker go round him and that shot that went through his arms. I don't think Robinson is particularly great but id rather him.</font>

Robinson's started the season pretty decently. Helps he has a (slightly) better defence in front of him now, but still. There's no point saying the other keepers aside from James don't have experience because eventually *someone* is going to replace him, and they'll still have no experience :| Better to cut the clanger-dropping twat now and give someone, be it Robinson, Kirkland or whoever, a run leading into the World Cup.

Oh, and Scotland finished 1-1

Mr. Monday Morning 09-04-2004 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haz59
1-1 away to Azerbaijan doesn't seem so bad now :cool:

Good to see Paul Jones carrying his club form over to international level

Rob 09-04-2004 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem
Big Kev will score on wednesday Rob, mark my words.

Who?

Rob Ban Fan 09-04-2004 06:42 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Murray for Wolves...and England</font>

Team Sheep 09-04-2004 07:11 PM

Ah well, it's early days yet. I'm confident Azerbaijan will take points off Poland and Austria, so I'm not worrying just yet.

Team Sheep 09-04-2004 07:15 PM

And how unlucky was Earnie at the end :'(

Y2Ant 09-04-2004 10:41 PM

Manninger should have been sent off for handling outside the area. :mad:

It would have been funny if he had been too, since they had no reserve keeper. :cool:

Dazz 09-04-2004 10:52 PM

LOL at Stevie G being subbed because he signalled to the bench that Bridgey was injured and they thought he meant that he was injured :$.

I cannot count the amount of times I have said that Robinson should be there and not James, and then all these dickheads start sticking up for James. Garuntee that now they are all like "I never liked James he's shit" :mad:

Y2Ant 09-04-2004 11:40 PM

I was never a big fan of James, my mate loves him though, can't wait to see what he thinks now. :o

yianni 09-05-2004 12:32 AM

Fucking Greece lost 2-1 away to Albania :nono:. I think we needed Dellas to play, from reports I've read Dabizas wasn't nearly as effective against Albania as Dellas has been. Where does Dabizas play now? Fucking free-to-air Australian TV has lost the rights to the Premier League so I hardly see any of it anymore and know what's going on. :mad:

Anyway the boys need to fucking re-group and MUST PRODUCE A RESULT against Turkey in Greece on Wednesday night. The only consoling thing to take away from this loss to the Blockheads is that we struggled early in Euro 2004 qualifying (lost our first two games from memory) then finished off very strongly to qualify. I'm hoping that loss was the wake-up call we needed, so that the Chickens visit Greece on Wednesday night and get an almighty arsekicking.

yianni 09-05-2004 12:42 AM

2006 FIFA WORLD QUP QUALIFICATION - UEFA
Qualifying Round - 4th September 2004
Results:


Northern Ireland 0-3 Poland

Russia 1-1 Slovakia

Denmark 1-1 Ukraine

Latvia 0-2 Portugal

Austria 2-2 England

Croatia 3-0 Hungary

Malta 0-7 Sweden

France 0-0 Israel :|

Republic of Ireland 3-0 Cyprus

Iceland 1-3 Bulgaria

Finland 3-0 Andorra

Switzerland 6-0 Faroe Islands

Estonia 4-0 Luxembourg

Turkey 1-1 Georgia :y:

Slovenia 3-0 Moldova

Belgium 1-1 Lithuania

San Marino 0-3 Serbia & Montenegro

Romania 2-1 Macedonia :y:

Albania 2-1 Greece :nono: :n:

Italy 2-1 Norway

Azerbaijan 1-1 Wales

Dazz 09-05-2004 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yianni
2006 FIFA WORLD QUP QUALIFICATION - UEFA
Qualifying Round - 4th September 2004
Results:


Romania 2-1 Macedonia :y:


MUTU MUTU MUTU MUTU

Rob Ban Fan 09-05-2004 08:56 AM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Dabizas plays for Leicester in The Championship.</font>

Jacko 09-05-2004 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazz
MUTU MUTU MUTU MUTU


It's MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTUUUUUUUUUU :cool: Nice free kick aswell.



PS. David James and Alan Smith suck.. balls... heavily.. *sigh* :wavesad:

LK 09-05-2004 09:47 AM

Calamity James strikes again :lol:

yianni 09-05-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Ban Fan
Dabizas plays for Leicester in The Championship.

Thanks.

ct2k 09-05-2004 10:45 AM

Poland/England on wednesday. Perfect opportunity to wind up all my mates:D

Loose Cannon 09-05-2004 11:05 AM

WTF at France. Come on. Were they playing their best?

ct2k 09-05-2004 11:07 AM

Its all those French Jews moving over to Israel i figure

Dazz 09-05-2004 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacko
It's MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTUUUUUUUUUU

No, it's not.

Still think Gudjohnsen is anything more then shit? The guy has been just as bad so far this season as he was last. I don't care that he scored against ManYoo, he was the worst player on the pitch that day. How you even stick up for the guy is beyond me.

Sephiroth 09-05-2004 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yianni
2006 FIFA WORLD QUP QUALIFICATION - UEFA
Qualifying Round - 4th September 2004
Results:



Italy 2-1 Norway

:love: :yes:

ct2k 09-05-2004 01:00 PM

what was Sven doing bringing Carragher on for Stevie G last night?! :?:

Dazz 09-05-2004 02:53 PM

Gerrard explained it after the match, Bridgey was injured and Gerrard signalled for him to be taken off, but Eriksson misunderstood and thought Gerrard was injured. Still, why wasn't Joey C brough on?

Mr. Monday Morning 09-05-2004 03:02 PM

He was :wtf:

Y2Ant 09-05-2004 11:53 PM

lol @ france

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 02:42 PM

Defoe & Robinson start in place of Smith and James :eek: :D

Roy Keane starts for Eire

No other team news yet

Ogen 09-08-2004 02:47 PM

'Mon Ireland a draw will do us away as long as we beat the cunts at home but we're good enough to take all 6 points off everyone in the group bar France who I thinik we'll take 1 off just.

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 04:26 PM

Defoe :love:

Why the fuck Gerrard and Beckham keep giving the ball away I don't know :|

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 04:29 PM

Eire drawing 1-1 with the Swiss...Morrison on target again :eek:

Northern Ireland beating Wales :o Savage sent off :lol: along with Hughes

<font size=1>Oh yeah, Scotland 0-0 with Slovenia</font>

BCWWF 09-08-2004 05:27 PM

I was just reading a book and saw the name, so sorry this is off topic but what ever happened to Paul Ince?

David Wright also now that I think about it, I used to have a trading card of his that proclaimed him the pride of England or something :wtf:

Loose Cannon 09-08-2004 05:33 PM

USA/ Panama tonight for any American that cares.

They beat El Salvador on Monday and are in 1st in there group.

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
I was just reading a book and saw the name, so sorry this is off topic but what ever happened to Paul Ince?

David Wright also now that I think about it, I used to have a trading card of his that proclaimed him the pride of England or something :wtf:

Paul Ince is still playing, for us :love: Although this more than likely is his last season.

I don't remember any David Wright :o

LOL @ the England players refusing to give interviews after the game because of the press treatment over the last few days. What a bunch of pathetic crybabys.

Rob 09-08-2004 06:21 PM

Charlie Nicholas and Gordon McQueen = Two fu</>cking doss cunts.

yianni 09-08-2004 06:29 PM

Fucking so frustrated, I've just gotten home from the South Melbourne Hellas social club where they showed Greece vs Turkey early this morning (kick-off was 4:45am Melbourne time and now it's 7:17am). 0-0 draw in the end. We had a few very good chances, one cleared off the line, a goal disallowed because of a 'push' on the Turkish keeper :roll:, and a couple of headers go just wide. Turkey had very few chances but of the few they had they went dangerously close to scoring :nono:. It was just so fucking frustrating to watch, Greece were very ordinary in terms of hitting team mates with passes, general laziness etc. Very different to the last time I saw them in the Euro final. Argh very frustrated, we should have come away with a win against the Scum but at least we have a point. :o

brb checking up other scores from this morning.

Rob 09-08-2004 06:42 PM

That Robbie Savage red card was absolute bullsh</>it.

Rob Ban Fan 09-08-2004 06:43 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Robbie Savage didnt deserve to go off...which just makes it even more funny :cool: have that you little cunt :lol:

awww complaining that Hughes could've broken his leg :'( poor Robbie :wavesad:

On an England note, Beckham's set pieces were poor today :|</font>

Rob 09-08-2004 06:45 PM

Healy's was just as bad

Rob Ban Fan 09-08-2004 06:58 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">and yeah, the England players need to grow up. Not talking to the media because of the way they've been treated? Atleast they didnt threaten to strike this time.</font>

The Mackem 09-08-2004 07:05 PM

haha Savage cried?

Rob Ban Fan 09-08-2004 07:13 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">nah, although that would've been funny.

He was wrongly sent off after a clash with one of the Northern Irish players but y'know. Then he complained about it in his interview after the match.</font>

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 07:14 PM

He looked like he was going to when he was talking about missing the England game :o :lol:

Can't believe that's his 1st ever red card :|

Rob 09-08-2004 07:15 PM

Come on now. He got screwed so he has every right to complain. If that was Frank Lampard then you lot would be throwing fits.

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 07:16 PM

Frank Lampard isn't a whiny little bitch who nobody likes though

Rob Ban Fan 09-08-2004 07:20 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">Yeah exactly.

Robbie Savage is one of those players that just pisses everyone off and all the Birmingham fans say "you'd like him if he was on your team" and "he's a good player, you just dont like him because of his reputation."

If Robbie Savage was on my team id be embarrased by him and as for good player, he's average.

And I also can't believe that was his first red card.</font>

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 07:25 PM

It's not about him being an irritant because of him actually being a goodish player, it's about him going out of his way to wind up opposition fans and players alike.

His poodle hair doesn't help either.

The Mackem 09-08-2004 07:25 PM

No I mean was he actually crying?

The Mackem 09-08-2004 07:26 PM

Jeff Whitley scored :cool:

Mr. Monday Morning 09-08-2004 07:26 PM

Let's make this the UEFA World Cup Qualifiers/Robbie Savage Disappreciation Thread :shifty:

Rob Ban Fan 09-08-2004 07:27 PM

<font face=verdana size=3 color="#ff6600">and the POOOOOOOOM appreciation thread :cool:</font>


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