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Mister Sinister 09-04-2004 02:34 AM

Rate The Wrestler - Day 14 - John Bradshaw Leyfield
 
I figured what the hell, and despite risking power outage within the next 36 hours, but I figured I go ahead and do another Rate The Wrestler, and this one is known other then current WWE Champion, John Bradshaw Leyfield


Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
Day 5: Low Ki (73)
Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
Day 7 : Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
Day 10: Raven (87)
Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)

Current Top 5 Leaderboard
1. Bret Hart (96)
2. Owen Hart (95)
3. Brian Pillman (92)
4. Chris Jericho (91)
5. AJ Styles (89)

DaveWadding 09-04-2004 02:35 AM

2

Splaya 09-04-2004 02:37 AM

4

The Icon of Elisim 09-04-2004 02:41 AM

4

Lara Emily 09-04-2004 02:52 AM

0

The Fugitive 09-04-2004 03:26 AM

5.

I dislike him but he's got some good facial expressions, he's slowly evolving into a good performer, and I'll never forget the first time I saw the Clothesline From Hell, sure, it's just a clothesline, but it's brutal.

HeartBreakMan2k 09-04-2004 03:29 AM

4.17

-edit- Just in case I have to explain. Reason is, he sucks in the ring and always has. He only scored this highly because I like the character he has now because it reminds me of Dibiase. Doesn't remind me of Dibiase because he's good or anything, just reminds me how great Dibiase was. He's still friggin horrible in the ring though.

John la Rock 09-04-2004 04:04 AM

6

Gone Mad 09-04-2004 04:18 AM

2.1

Since my score is below 6, I should explain. Although he is the main event, the current Smackdown champion, and the second top heel in the business, why only a 2.1??? He is only a brawler,and not a good one. The only thing that saves him is heat and his promos that usually emit heat(maybe because he sucks at it and it is cheap heat?). Either way, not deserving of main event status or mid-card for that matter. What next, Hardcore Holly a number one contender for the title??? ...nevermind

***lousy hurricane bastard! I'm still here too!!***

Mayo 09-04-2004 04:37 AM

5

He only gets that high because he has become pretty funny as a cowardly heel, and he has surpassed everyone's expectations when he finally got the WWE title. Up until his JBL persona, he was pretty crappy.

KayfabeMan 09-04-2004 04:40 AM

4

BigDaddyCool 09-04-2004 04:45 AM

4 - As many have pointed out, as a wrestler he sucks. But as an entertainer, he only half sucks. He has his moments, but he still mostly sucks.

mike616 09-04-2004 04:50 AM

0.0 Why? I think it's a bad joke that he is the WWE chump that's how I will refer his run with the title at this point I wolud rather have Taker as champion than BJL.

asphyXy 09-04-2004 04:58 AM

4.3

Come on.

ColdwaVer 09-04-2004 05:24 AM

Once again stealing Funky Fly's model, this time justifying each one:
Ring ability: 4
I'd call him below average in the ring, he's got more skill than a lot of former champions have, but he makes Taker look like Bret Hart in their matches.
Overness: 8
Mostly cheap heat, sure, but whatever it is, he's got a lot more heat than a lot of heel champions have had. Sh</>it, he's doing better in that respect IMO than Austin did as a heel champ in '01.
Work rate: 7
Straight C average there, he's not special, but he does his job and puts more effort into it than, say, a HHH or even Taker at times.
Politics: 2
This is where he takes his biggest hit, he is what he is because Vince likes him, plain and simple.
Mic skill: 7
He gets his point across, and gets the reaction he's after. He doesn't drip charisma,
Any time he's ever needed to, he's been able to work the crowd to get the response he's supposed to get.
Overall rank: 5.5

Watson 09-04-2004 05:36 AM

5.9

deathtrap 09-04-2004 05:46 AM

7.5 because I loved the Acolytes gimmick in the Ministry and the APA

Mr. Nerfect 09-04-2004 06:24 AM

6. He's a great heel, and puts effort into his work.

#1-norm-fan 09-04-2004 06:27 AM

6

Mister Sinister 09-04-2004 06:50 AM

Just letting you know, the people who gave Bradshaw a 0, will have they're grades turned into a 1....not like it will improve things

Mister Sinister 09-04-2004 06:55 AM

Ring ability: 3.5 (He only gets this for his wicked looking Powerbombs)

Overness: 8.5 (He doesn't deserve to be this over, but however sadly he is getting there and he is a World Champion)

Workrate: 3.7 (Shitty but is getting better, little by little, but won't ever reach a 5 in terms of Workrate

Mic Work: 7.2 (I never would expected Bradshaw to actually get this good on the Mic, but he did, He's still no Chris Jericho

Finisher: 5.5 (Being Nice Here, A Fucking Clothline for crying out loud, I don't care how stiff it is, it's still a clothline)

Overall: 5.7

CYCLOPTERSAURUS 09-04-2004 07:00 AM

1.1

He only gets that much because his gimmick is moderately humorous, and you said we can't give zeros.

Xero 09-04-2004 07:48 AM

3

Funky Fly 09-04-2004 08:49 AM

From a personal perspective, he gets a 2. Let's see what he gets objectively...

Ring ability: 3
Overness: 4
Work rate: 3
Politics: 2
Mic skill: 7
Overall rank: 3.8

Sickboy 09-04-2004 09:37 AM

5

PorkSoda 09-04-2004 10:14 AM

5.5

His finisher works at times, it depends if his opponent can sell it right and make it look like an impact.

Mike the Metal Ed 09-04-2004 10:25 AM

3

I like the gimmick, but he sucks.

Evil Vito 09-04-2004 12:12 PM

<font color=goldenrod>4 - woulda been lower if not for the gimmick</font>

Mortis45 09-04-2004 12:16 PM

6.

PerfectOne 09-04-2004 12:22 PM

7

I think a lot of people are being too harsh on JBL. The fact of the matter is, he's a guy who's been loyal to wrestling for a long time, has been a good tea player, and puts 100% into everything he does. The administration told him essentially to change his image or get a pink slip, so he completely changed his image. He's a decent power wrestler - he's no Ron Simmons or Scott Norton or Steiner Brother, but he has ability. His finisher is not the worst thing I've ever seen - Test does a boot to the face for gosh sakes, the Rock dropped an elbow on the person, Shawn Michaels does a weak sidekick to the face (or chest, nowadays, since he's not flexible enough to reach the face), and Foley puts a sock down someone's throat. At least Bradshaw does an old-fashioned power move - a clothesline.

Now, his gimmick sucks. His only GOOD gimmick was in the Acolytes with Ron Simmons. Then, as part of the A.P.A., he was good. But don't blame him for the racist jerks in the WWE backstage. First they make him a neo-Nazi, KKK, racist SOB, then they decide he's not racist anymore and instead just Texan-turned-New Yorker. The entire thing sucks, the WWE staff sucks, and I stopped watching WWE specifically because JBL, who's best friends with both Ron Simmons and Jacqueline, was turned into a racist on TV because of the WWE. I hate when they play the "race" card, and Vince just LOOOOOOOOVES doing it.

And the scariest thing is, when he was saying his stuff about Eddie and Mexicans (Eddie was born in California, btw, and is USA 100%), some people were cheering. Way to go, Vince. Way to appeal to the white-trash, racist audience. You certainly know which viewers to cater too while losing all your minority viewers.

LK 09-04-2004 01:25 PM

5 - Crap wrestler but he gets a 5 because of his character

Goulet 09-04-2004 01:25 PM

10 :shifty:

Cruiserweight 3:16 09-04-2004 01:25 PM

5 - he sucks as a wrestler, but he can cut some decent promos and he can generate a reaction from the crowd

Loose Cannon 09-04-2004 01:32 PM

He's not entertaining me at all anymore. He was good for a while, but it's wore off for me.

2.5

Don't count that "10" That's just ridiculous.

Rob 09-04-2004 01:34 PM

2.5 He can barely sell for Christ sake!

CANADIAN 09-04-2004 01:41 PM

2.0 He can't take a bump, he cant wrestle... He is a backstage politician, he is only rated this high because JBL is mildly entertaining.

Volchok 09-04-2004 01:45 PM

i'll be nice.. 5

Nark Order 09-04-2004 01:59 PM

You guys are being assholes. He's been in the league forever and finally worked his way up to champion. Also, I think he's tremendously entertaining on the mic and believe that his in-ring skills have drastically improved.

I'll sport a 6

Eunos 09-04-2004 02:11 PM

6.1 - To be honest.. His title reign hasnt been as bad as i expected and he is actually quite entertaining at times.

Even though his horrible in the rin :/

Loose Cannon 09-04-2004 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlyheaven
You guys are being assholes. He's been in the league forever and finally worked his way up to champion. Also, I think he's tremendously entertaining on the mic and believe that his in-ring skills have drastically improved.

I'll sport a 7

We're being assholes because we're not rating him high? Hmm let's see. He's the biggest asshole backstage as he is a dick to a lot of the younger guys. He's a FK'N BRAWLER who worked twice with Guerrero. His match with Taker was pure SHIT. So you see what happens when you put him with someone that can't protect him. He can't sell to save his life eathier. Yeah, his mic work has been decent, but it's starting to get old. And does being with the company forever mean that he is a really good worker? Well I guess Holly and Gunn are great workers too right? Let's not mistake Longevity for Talent here.

CosaNostra 09-04-2004 02:34 PM

3.

And that is only because I found him entertaining as part of APA. Other than that, he would have received a 2. Now he is descending into retard land with things like his rant against internet fans and his backstage bullshit. His gimmick sucks bigtime and he can't wrestle for shit. He is boring to watch. His finisher is a clothesline.

How he received a title push is incomprehensible to me.

CosaNostra 09-04-2004 02:34 PM

On an unrelated note, the top 4 wrestlers are Canucks. :cool: And one time members of the Hart Foundation.

My Final Heaven 09-04-2004 02:39 PM

He gets a 2.

Honestly, all these people that're giving him 6's & 7's have the mentality of "ah well, he sucks, but Vince is high on him so I guess I'll just accept him & try to be nice. Not like that strap'll be off him anytime soon."

That's the story of your entire career, JBL.

Kurt Angle's wrestling career: Remembered for true greatness.
JBL's wrestling career: Grudging acceptance.

Loose Cannon 09-04-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosaNostra
On an unrelated note, the top 4 wrestlers are Canucks. :cool: And one time members of the Hart Foundation.

Pillman isn't Canadian. He's from Ohio.

CosaNostra 09-04-2004 02:41 PM

Oh yeah.......

My mistake. :$

Yet all four came up out of Stu Hart's organization in Canada. That is still pretty noteworthy.

Lara Emily 09-04-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Pillman isn't Canadian. He's from Ohio.

Indeed but he ows a lot to Canada in terms of his wrestling career.

Innovator 09-04-2004 04:43 PM

3, and thats being very fucking generous

juanker 09-04-2004 05:18 PM

8

Since everyones on a downer bout him i'll explain.

I've seen Bradshaw come a long way over the years, from Justin "Hawk" Bradshaw, to Blackjack Bradshaw, to Bradshaw of the Acolytes, IMO the only bad part of his career was when the Acolytes became the APA, to JBL & I love this character.

If this gimmick is crap then why did a very similar gimmick work for Ted DiBiasi, he was a rich cowardly wrestler who hid behind Virgil as is JBL hiding behind OJ

So my JBL rating is 8

Loose Cannon 09-04-2004 05:42 PM

CAUSE TED DIBIASE WAS A QUALITY WRESTLER WHO PUT ON QUALITY MATCHES and MADE HIS OPPONENTS LOOK GOOD. Watch Wrestlemania 4 my freind. Dibiase is much better on the mic and is light years ahead of Bradshaw with pyscology. JBL is SHIT in the ring.

I don't know how the hell Bradshaw is getting higher then 5's.

RemyRed 09-04-2004 05:53 PM

9

Loose Cannon 09-04-2004 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RemyRedAssassin
9

On Bret Hart
Quote:

Originally Posted by RemyRedAssassin
7

Is this a joke?

Well, it's your opinion, but I just don't get it.

CosaNostra 09-04-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanker

.......to Bradshaw of the Acolytes, IMO the only bad part of his career was when the Acolytes became the APA

WTF are you talking about?!? :wtf:

The fact that he was part of APA is the only thing that is helping him in this ranking and is the only thing remotely entertaining that he was a part of.

:nono:

I-Hate-You 09-04-2004 06:45 PM

Some of you are being to harsh on Bradshaw.

6

Funky Fly 09-04-2004 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-Hate-You
Some of you are being to harsh on Bradshaw.

6

Ok, Low-Ki is a 7.3, according to the general consensus of this board. Watch one of his matches (preferably the ones against American Dragon or Christopher Daniels), then watch anything over JBL's career. It doesn't match up at all. Bradshaw sucks in the ring.

Mister Sinister 09-04-2004 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly
Ok, Low-Ki is a 7.3, according to the general consensus of this board. Watch one of his matches (preferably the ones against American Dragon or Christopher Daniels), then watch anything over JBL's career. It doesn't match up at all. Bradshaw sucks in the ring.

Well Put Funky

RemyRed 09-04-2004 08:54 PM

Some people rate more for the entertainment factor than the technical skills.

EDIT -- I wonder if the Homer Simpson calibur lazyness of the writers'll start making him shove $100 Bills into his beaten opponents mouths.

CosaNostra 09-04-2004 10:04 PM

He is still not that entertaining.

Funky Fly 09-05-2004 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RemyRedAssassin
Some people rate more for the entertainment factor than the technical skills.

Watch any of the Million Dollar Man's promos, then watch any of JBL's.

Bradshaw doesn't match up in that respect either. :wave:

Nark Order 09-05-2004 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly
Watch any of the Million Dollar Man's promos, then watch any of JBL's.

Bradshaw doesn't match up in that respect either. :wave:

I'll agree 100% with that.

JBL has improved though...

mitch_h 09-05-2004 12:50 AM

Crap...

3.5

MVP 09-05-2004 02:23 AM

6, and that's complimentary.

Mister Sinister 09-05-2004 03:50 AM

Voting Closed


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