The Official 2004-2005 NBA Season Thread
 

Go ahead and discuss the 2004-2005 season in here.


My pick to win it : Detroit Pistons

The season doesn't start for another month and a half, and the Off Season thread is still running. How about you don't post anymore.

The Wolves would have won last year if Cassell was healthy, add Hudson, they are my pick :love:

Minnesota is your pick in everything.

In the three big sports, its totally legit that we have a chance to win them all.

NBA the clear choices are Spurs or Wolves, obviously I am going to take the Wolves, I'll spare the details.

MLB the Twins are hot going into the playoffs, anything can happen there.

NFL The Vikings will probably choke, but they have the talent offensively, if they put it together defensively they can't be thrown out of anything.

So yes, I do side with Minnesota teams, but its not like I am calling bad teams good just because they are from Minnesota. All three of those teams are legit good. If any of them was to win a major championship this year, I would predict it to be the Wolves.

I'm teasing you, you dirty asshole. :p

I didn't realize it until now, but look at Dallas' lineup

C Dampier
PF Dirk
SF Stackhouse
SG Finley
PG Terry

That is suddenly a pretty impressive starting five, but do they have the bench to back it up?

Shawn Bradley
Marquis Daniels
Dan Dickau (I still think he can be good)
Devin Harris
Josh Howard
Alan Henderson
Paval Plodzkine

There are holes on the bench but some of the guys could easily step up if they have the chance, nonetheless they have good depth

Pavel is my pick for ROTY.

Detroit pretty much didn't make any changes. They lost Okur and added McDyess which balances each other out. Darko might do something year :dunno:.
I think they still have a really good chance to capture it again.
I wish New York would make it, but that just won't be happening anytime soon.
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I just met Darvin Ham and got my picture taken with him, Barb Farris (from the Shock), and the O'Brien trophy (and whatever they call the WNBA title).

So, naturally (even if it wasn't already), my pick to repeat is the Pistons.

Also, I think Denver will be maybe the top 5 in the west. I forgot how good they are/got. The biggest piece they will miss is Jon Barry, a good outside shooter. However, they bulked up by adding Kenyon Martin, alongside Nene Hilario and Marcus Camby. Nene can be used as good trade bait to land a good outside shooter to replace Barry.
Oh yeah and Rodney White.
Denver is the blue collar team in the West, kinda like Detroit in the East. No real star, just alot of really good players.

Detroit has four potential All-Stars or former all-stars still. Also, I believe that Barry is still unsigned, meaning he could go back and probably will. I may have missed something though.

Barry signed with Atlanta...

I missed that. Sucks for him

I've been thinking about Charlotte lately, and I think Gerald Wallace is going to transform into a good player this year. Basically, he has to, as no one else in Charlotte looks capable of actually doing anything.
I think he'll be a good fantasy pick up when the leagues start.

They're in the West now. Move Milwaukee to the West, Orlando to KC and the West, put Charlotte back in the East and add Memphis aswell, and you've got yourself a league.

I thought New Orleans went to the West, not charlotte.

Oh what the fuck, I totally just fucked up the Hornets thing. My bad, but my position still stands about Orlando and Milwaukee for NO and Memphis

Haha, that's what I thought.

Anyway, do you see the Magic selling their team anytime soon? Are there rumors about it or something? Or just wishful thinking?

I haven't heard anything about it since, but about a month ago the Kansas City talk radio was going crazy. Apparantly the Magic don't draw well and refuse to remodel their arena. The management set it up so that they have a really good lease and can leave their arena at any time basically. At the same time Kansas City really wants a team (apparantly) and they already have a brand new arena built that the Magic could move into, I think this season? Maybe not though. Haven't really heard about anything for a while though.

Since the Nuggets lost Barry, it appears they are trying to get Lucious Harris, who can be an easy replacement for him. That's good news for both, as I liked Harris on the Nets, and the Nuggets can definitly benefit from a decent outside shooter coming off the bench.

They could benefit from a Clyde Drexler too :shifty:

:lol:

All this talk about vets coming back to the NBA.
Jayson Williams, Clyde Drexler, Dennis Rodman, Zo, Michael Jordan was rumored but doesn't seem to be leading to anywhere.
I'm sure I'm forgetting someone...
Clyde Drexler was one of my favorite players, he shouldn't come back as a player, he whould should come back as a mentor.

Drexler would be so random, I don't know what he's thinking. That would be pretty cool of Jordan came back for a year and won a title with the Heat though.

How would it be cool?
How many times is this guy going to retire then return??
I can understand these guys wanting to play again, but they should've extended their careers instead of retiring early, and made better decisions. If they want to come back, come back as mentors to help the younger generation experience what they did.
Like Clyde or MJ can help Wade or someone like him. Dwayne Wade is my favorite rookie from last years class, and was my favorite over 'Bron and Melo before the draft even took place. I was glad he went to Miami, and he did well playing out of his natural position. I think he could benefit from learning from Drexler or Jordan, and I think that is exactly what they should do. He was the only younger player on the Olympic squad to take his role as it was without complaining. :yes:

A bit off topic but I heard David Aldridge isn't with ESPN anymore. Any news on that? I'm surprised cuz he seemed to be a mainstay with the NBA crew.

No idea? I don't know where else he would have gone since he was a pretty big on a pretty big network??

Did anybody see that Carmelo Anthony was caught with some marijuana in his backpack yesterday? Lol, its such BS he is claiming that "a friend borrowed the backpack and left it in there" That is clearly such bs, but you know he gets out of any trouble.

Yea, of course he's gonna deny it. But if he does end up confessing, that'll be a suspension of like 1 or 2 games or something. I think Odom was caught like twice already so the next one I think would be a very big suspension... but i could be wrong.

Good job Carmelo! Try not to end up like Isiah Rider.

I could see the Nuggets falling apart this year. Carmelo could easilly hit a big sophomore slump and add Kenyon Martin to the mix too now. There are so many bad attitudes on that team, they might as well add Rodman.

Keep dreaming, dude.

Since K-Mart hasn't already jacked Nene in the face, Carmelo hasn't been caught with pot and benched for being selfish in the olympics, I think theres a few attitude problems on the team.

Suns are looking pretty hot...because...they're...suns....GET IT?

pg Steve Nash
sg Q. Richardson/Joe Johnson
sf Shawn Marion
pf Amare Stoudamare
c Voskuhl/Hunter

Cabarkaba, Jacobson, Barbosa, and Eisley can come off the bench. I forgot who we drafted this year. Is he any good? We definitly need some help at center, even though Hunter is awesome in my ESPN 2K5 season. I should definitly start attending some games this year. I think now is the time for people in Phoenix to jump on the "We Support The Suns" bandwagon.

Still rooting for the Warriors and Raptors. Outlook not so good though. :/

Q WILL, mark my words, start. They didn't put all that money out for his ass to sit on the bench. The guy they drafted this year's name is Jackson Vroman. I don't know anything about him, however. When have the Suns EVER been good at Center since we had Neal Walk...seriously.

Yeah, Vroman. I taded him and Eisley for a first round pick. Cleared up some cap room too.

Yeah, we've never had a good center. Then again, I've only lived here for like 5 years so I don't know the entire histiry BUT STILL.

You haveta admit though, they're looking pretty good this year.

GO NEW YORK GO NEW YORK GO

I dn if this was said yet, but arent they going to have a lockout too>?

Not that I've heard of? :?:

The Warriors will have a winning record this season. I see it on the horizon.

well I've been a Suns diehard since I was born...to be honest, this is the best that they've looked since the Finals season in 92-93. Lots of depth...but still no Center...then again there isn't Shaq to worry about anymore either.

The Suns could get as high as a 6 or 7 seed this year, I think they need a little more depth to go any higher.

:love:
We can hope.


Actually, they made the 3rd seed in the playoffs in my video game. So, you never know.

The Timberwolves are also not very in video games. They aren't accurate.

THis is what I was talking about, it was for next year though. Oops.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/7812610

I'll be ecstatic if my Lakers even MAKE it to the playoffs. Right now, I think I have them penciled in as finishing 10th in the West in my predictions. :(


My Finals pick is Detroit vs San Antonio in the ugliest, most defensive Finals you will ever see in your lifetime. I haven't decided who would win that one... prolly Detroit, but in 7.

Don't worry Corky. As another resident LA guy who roots for the Lakers, I think they'll surprise people. Kobe has shown he can score 30 a game if he wanted to. And in the preseason so far, Mihm has been a pleasant surprise and Brian Cook is actually making 3's. He actually went 3-3 the other day against the Clippers, which boggles my mind. He shoots like Shawn Marion, but I could never figure out how Marion scores either. I think Lakers will battle for the Pacific till the end, but it'll take a miracle or two for them to get back to the Finals.

The Lakers (and all the people who jump on the bandwagon in LA) piss me off.

Well I'd agree with you 3 years ago but I don't see a bandwagon for the Lakers right now. I've been a fan since the 80s and through the miserable 90s so don't think that all Laker fans are "bandwagon fans". If anything, people are jumping off the bandwagon since everyone left the team.

The Lakers would have to play really poor to miss the playoffs. They still have good players, why don't people understand that?

I'm with B C Two Dubs.

The Lakers won't win their division or anything, but they'll make the playoffs. They might even make the conference semis (might). The Kobe-Shaq-Phil conflict is gone, and now they have a good handful of young players who will get a lot of playing time now that the triangle offense and Hack-A-Shaq is gone.

I can see the Lakers getting a #6 seed, then potentially knocking off a #3. Especially if they're going to make the three division winners the top three seeds in each conference now. If the top couple of teams in, say, the Southwest beat each other up in the closing weeks of the season, LA could bump pull off an upset.

Rudy T is a good coach, and he has good depth in the front court. It's obviously going to be Kobe's team this year, but if Medvedenko has a good year or someone like Caron Butler or Brian Grant, Kobe's going to get more shots than he has in the past.

I think Kobe will win the scoring title this year.

Loopydate is right on so many levels. Their division has the Clippers, the Warriors, and the Suns. Thats a huge advantage over the teams in the Rockets-Spurs-Mavericks-Hornets-Grizzlies.

Anybody who has ever watched a game of basketball knows that Kobe Bryant is a great player, overall one of the five most talented players in the league. KG, TD, Kobe, T-Mac, AI are probably the five guys with the most talent in the league. Kobe is a better shooter than T-Mac and AI, he is still one of the best players in the league. Shaqs absense will change his game, but it won't turn him into a shitty player, FYI.

And don't be surprised when the Lakers start getting big play from their big men. Look at who they have on the perimeter, Kobe-Kareem Rush-Caron Butler-Deavon George-Chucky Atkins. The other teams will have to move out on them leaving Lamar Odom and Vlade Divac inside with easy layups.

They will be a very different team, but in a head to head I think they are better than the Heat. Sure, the Heat have a rejuvinated Shaq, a solid scorer in Eddie Jones, and a young point guard in Dwayne Wade, but besides that their they have nobody who is going to contribute. They are not a title contender, they don't have any depth beyond three guys, and when you have shitty starters you aren't going far.

lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerr...n=2005&week=-1

These are rediculous if you ask me.

Courtesy NY Post

Anyone lucky enough to be playing in the NBA or working for it is overpaid. That's my educated position.

Then there are those said affiliates who are obscenely overpaid; Latrell Sprewell, for example. The free- agent-in-waiting is on the Wolves' bloated books this season for $14.625M and earnestly believes he shouldn't take as much as a penny pay cut over the next three years from Minnesota or any team.

In his twisted view, Sprewell evidently thinks he's salaried on the cheap. In his warped analysis, he feels he deserves a raise (as if he wasn't sufficiently overly rewarded last season, $13.5M), for providing effective effort and pressure points playing off MVP Kevin Garnett and helping lead his franchise past the first round (deep into the third) for the first time in its history.

Should Wolves owner Glen Taylor refuse to considerably upgrade his "insulting" three-year offer (the $30M vicinity) before commencement exercises Nov. 3, Sprewell vows to forever flee Minnesota at season's end.

Well, I've got news for Sprewell: at 35 (Sept. 8, 1970) he's not going to get such a warm financial response from any other team. Not that he isn't dreadfully experienced in running amuck in such mine fields and plundering them. Still, forcing this particular issue, it says here, will prove to be a calculably, uncorrectable error.

Finding a $15M plus taker for his over-ripened services? I can't envision that happening. Sprewell would have a better second chance of squeezing blood from a stoned P.J. Carlesimo.

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I'm glad that somebody understands

PORTLANDS GOIN ALL THE WAY THIS YEAR

Spree wants a trade now. What a fucking baby.

Is that new as of today? Ill brb.

Wow what a huge douche bag. I'm getting these off hoopshype...

And the papers were saying how much Sprewell was coming around finally. Now we are just going to dump him off to a shitty team like Toronto. Maybe we'll be nice and let him go back to New York, he cries about being traded every day.

All summer people were talking about trading Wally, and the whole time I said that if we're going to trade somebody, Sprewell is the guy to go. He is old and incredibly inconsistant last year. When he was hot he could win the game for us single handedly, but that didn't happen much. I honestly don't think it will hurt us that much to let him go, I think it'd be worse if he stayed now. Wally is good, you can deny it but he has great career numbers, and now it will take away the drama of who comes off the bench, maybe get us a good draft pick at the same time. If Sprewell is going to be a little pussy, then let him go.

Also, I wouldn't take that as complete fact yet because it was only in the Pioneer Press and they have had the tentdency to report things wrong, such as every Wally trade in the last year. I'd wait a day to make sure, but from all indications it looks like Spre is gone.

Scratch that, pretty much the same article was in the Star Tribune today too.

He's a baby...and he's not worth almost 15 mil a year like he wants...

9 mil per is insulting? FUCK YOU SPREWELL

Dave, he's got a family to feed you bastard :rant:

For 9 mil a year, I could feed my family including pets 3 square meals of caviar and Cristal a day. :p

Any ideas on the trade. I could see somethign with the Pacers. The Knicks like to think they are going to get talent off the Wolves, but they don't realize that they have nobody who another team wants.

If the Twolves are smart, they'd trade for a center. Perhaps they could trade him to the Bulls for Eddy Curry. Even though Curry is somewhat overrated, he's a whole lot better than Kandi-crap.

Post predictions dicks

EASTERN
Atlantic
New York Knicks
Boston Celtics
Philadelphia 76ers
New Jersey Nets
Toronto Raptors

Central
Detroit Pistons
Indiana Pacers
Cleveland Cavaliers
Milwaukee Bucks
Chicago Bulls

Southeast
Miami Heat
Orlando Magic
Atlanta Hawks
Charlotte Bobcats
Washington Wizards

WESTERN
Northwest
Minnesota Timberwolves
Utah Jazz
Denver Nuggets
Portland Trailblazers
Seattle SuperSonics :(

Pacific
Phoenix Suns
Sacramento Kings
Los Angeles Lakers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Clippers

Southwest
San Antonio Spurs
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
New Orleans Hornets
Memphis Grizzlies

WEST
1. Minnesota
2. San Antonio
3. Phoenix
4. Utah
5. Dallas
6. Houston
7. Los Angeles Lakers
8. Sacramento

EAST
1. Detroit
2. Indiana
3. Miami
4. New York
5. Cleveland
6. Boston
7. Orlando
8. Philadelphia

Wolves over Kings
Spurs over Lakers
Suns over Rockets
Jazz over Mavs
Pistons over Sixers
Pacers over Magic
Heat over Celtics
Knicks over Cavs

Wolves over Jazz
Spurs over Suns
Pistons over Knicks
Heat over Pacers

Spurs over Wolves
Pistons over Heat

San Antonio Spurs def. Detroit Pistons, 4-3

League MVP: Kevin Garnett, MIN
Rookie of the Year: Emeka Okafor, CHA
Coach of the Year: Jerry Sloan, UTA

Miz w/ Suns in 1st :love:

I'll make my picks in a little bit, but I think that the Miz has better picks then most of the so called "experts"

I think the Celtics are going to win the Atlantic Divison this season

Spree is the man

EASTERN
Atlantic
New York Knicks
Boston Celtics
Philadelphia 76ers
Toronto Raptors
New Jersey Nets


Central
Detroit Pistons
Indiana Pacers
Cleveland Cavaliers
Milwaukee Bucks
Chicago Bulls

Southeast
Miami Heat
Orlando Magic
Atlanta Hawks
Washington Wizards
Charlotte Bobcats


WESTERN
Northwest
Minnesota Timberwolves
Denver Nuggets
Utah Jazz
Portland Trailblazers
Seattle SuperSonics

Pacific
Phoenix Suns
Sacramento Kings
Los Angeles Lakers
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Clippers

Southwest
San Antonio Spurs
Houston Rockets
Dallas Mavericks
Memphis Grizzlies
New Orleans Hornets


WEST
1. Minnesota
2. San Antonio
3. Phoenix
4. Denver
5. Houston
6. Dallas
7. Utah
8. Sacramento

EAST
1. Detroit
2. Indiana
3. Miami
4. New York
5. Cleveland
6. Boston
7. Orlando
8. Philadelphia

Wolves over Kings
Spurs over Utah
Suns over Dallas
Denver over Houston
Pistons over Sixers
Pacers over Magic
Heat over Celtics
Knicks over Cavs

Wolves over Denver
Spurs over Suns
Pistons over Knicks
Pacers over Heat

Wolves over Spurs
Pacers over Pistons

Wolves over Pistons 4-3

Wadding, you gotta be kidding me??? Pacers over Pistons. That is a terrible pick.

TONIGHT BABY, RINGS ARE HANDED OUT, BANNERS ARE RAISED, AND THE DEFENSE OF A CHAMPIONSHIP BEGINS



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BASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTBALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Alright, here I go.

ESPN.com has the Lakers ranked 10th in the West and like 16th in the whole NBA in their power rankings. From the start, I have been one to stand up and say that they are totally underrated and that Kobe Bryant's talent is going unnoticed because of the drama going around his name. After tonights game, beating the team that ESPN has ranked fifth overall I think, you have to give the Lakers some respect.

Kobe Bryant played a team game. He didn't shoot very much at all in the first half and kept setting up Chris Mihm for a career high in scoring. Then in the second half he broke out and ended the game with 25 points. This was a game where Kobe Bryant made his team better. Who knows if its going to last, but I wouldn't bet the farm that is does. What makes it so that Kobe Bryant can't change when he heard all of the criticism in the off season? T-Mac was criticized that he wasn't a team player and couldn't carry a team, but then he said he could with Yao and everybody forgot about it.

Kobe Bryant is being terribly underrated and so are the Los Angeles Lakers. They will be between 5-7 seed in the playoffs, mark my words.

Try this on for size...

This year, Dikembe Motumbo will be making 2.7 million dollars more than Kevin Garnett, and Allan Houston will be making 1.5 million more. Those two guys are being paid more money this season than anybody in the NBA, excluding Shaquile O'Neil. New York Knicks baby.

omg

Have any of you guys seen the Spurs passing game these past two games?

It's improved 200% from last year.

We already took out the Kings and the Lakers and are 2 - 0.

I guess Lakers dont count though. :lol:

Yeah but TMac in Lando shouldn't even have been brought up, considering he had....oh yeah noone besides Howard? Tyronn Lue? Come on the only reason Lue is even noticed is because he played with Shaq and Kobe when they weren't bitch fighting.

But yeah, they showed how good they were against the Jazz. ;) I think they'll do alright though.

Celtics whooped up on the Knicks the other night, I am liking what I am seeing

Both the Kings and the Lakers aren't nearly what they used to be, not taking anything away from the Spurs

Is anybody else watching this Dallas and Miami game? Dallas is just putting on a clinic, they almost have 100 points and its not even the 4th quarter yet

The Knicks got the Atlantic Division right now and are .500.
:cool:

BULLS WIN!
BULLS WIN!

:D :D :D :D

Celtics played a hell of a game against the Bucks last night.

Gary Payton and Paul Pierce are a mad combination.

Anybody know a place you can get that Carmelo Anthony DVD?

This season has been really weird.
Just wanted to mention some things I didn't expect

Wizards having a better record than the Heat at this point.

The Hornets having one win.

Rockets well under .500

Brevin Knight averaging close to 10 assists

Mike Fratello coaching again

Sonics having the best record in the league.

Orlando having the best record in the east.

Ron Artest being suspended. ;)

I have opinions on most of these too

I knew the Heat wouldn't be as good as they were marked up to be, but they haven't been entirely what I expected. Dwayne Wade has made a showing a lot stronger than I thought. I thought there might be too much pressure on him, but he is holding down. Eddie Jones has been ass though, and Shaq needs to get healthy and the forwards need to be better role players if they want to have a shot at the finals.

This surprises me and it doesn't. I knew that they would have a big dropoff because they are in the best Division in B-ball. Then with Baron wanted to be traded and three of their top guys going down, I guess thats just how it works. It really is a shame though, Milwaukee should move to the West and either Memphis or New Orleans go back East.


A friend of mine had a big debate last summer about this. I used what all the TPWW people used on me about KG but on T-Mac instead. I said that he was unproven and greedy, but because T-Mac said "I am going to work hard and win" my friend believed it. I also argued that if T-Mac was really as good as he was talked up to be, the Magic wouldn't have been so bad. I guarantee if you put KG on the Magic last year they would have won at least 10-15 more games. T-Mac is a great player, but he doesn't show the winning touch yet.

Not neccessarily Brevin Knight, but I am totally impressed by the Bobcats. They were predicted to come out just ass, but they are really doing decent. Emeka is playing real well, better than I though, and now they have my Mizzou boy Kareem Rush, he will be good over there. They have the core to be a good team in the future, and once they start getting more cap room they are on track to be pretty good if you ask me.

This one shocked me too, but I was pleasantly surprised. Ray Allen is the shit, and Rashard is damn good too. Its just wierd that after losing Brent Barry and Calvin Booth ( :shifty: ) they break out. I don't see them falling too far down at any point in the year though.

Before the season I thought Orlando would be pretty good this year, but I thought that for a different reason. We know Francis is a good player, but Mobley was really solid last year for the Rockets. This year he has pretty much been a non-factor, but Dwight Howard surely has been a factor. He is scoring much more than I thought, and he really could be the next big thing. I wasn't expecting that at all. Go Magic.

Yeah, this surprised everybody. I really do think that the suspensions were kind of sharp. But I do hope that the Pacers still make the playoffs and do well. I honestly think that they will, and they have a good chance of making the Finals. I mean, Artest is damn good, but Jermaine and Stephan Jackson will be back, Tinsley and Fred Jones are hot, and Austin Croshere has been real hot lately too. I think that even without Artest they are a legit Eastern Conference Contender (especially with how streaky Detroit has been). Also, notice I didn't say Title Contender.


Other things that have surprised me so far about the season

<b>High scoring games again!</b>

Last year 2 teams averaged over 100 points per game, so far this year 6 do. Then I think 13 teams average 97 points so far. That makes the games more exciting and I think it will help the NBA.


<b>LeBron is King</b>

Wow, I knew he was good and that he was going to one day be amazing, but happening this year was a complete shock to me. He is just tearing it up and will be a legit MVP candidate real soon.

<b>Dave Waddings Suns</b>

This is another pleasant surprise. Its awesome that Marion has been able to move to PF and the short lineup has worked so nicely. All of those guys are stellar players, and its cool to see them all meshing.

<b>The Nuggets Sucking</b>

Well maybe sucking is an overstatement, but they really have not been impressive. I'm not a fan of Carmelo, he was overrated because of LeBron last year. He is good, but he is not the phenom that LeBron is, and all of that got to him. I don't see them finishing any higher than a 7 seed.



Alright, hopefully this will get this topic heated up

A little of topic, but does anybody know what happened to ESPN basketball analysis David Aldridge? Is he still with ESPN or did he get fired or move on? Just curious, cuz i haven't seen him and Stephan A Smith seems to be doing everything Aldridge would do.

I asked the same thing earlier this summer. His contract with ESPN ended and since ESPN liked Stephen A Smith so much, they decided not to re-sign Aldridge. Now he's at TNT doing those games as an on court reporter.

Alright so how about the latest Kobe comments that have left Karl Malone feeling abandoned and betrayed?

Personally? I just think that Karl Malone is a big cry baby. Basically Kobe said that his teammates were playing hard and didn't need the pressure of having some old guy come and take their place midway through the season. Its a completely legit thing to say if you ask me. If I was a forward on the Lakers I wouldn't be too happy that an old gimp was coming back to take my playing time. As good as he was, Malone probably won't even start wherever he goes and will be getting the job more for his name than his ability.

I don't think the Wolves will still put up a huge effort to get him unless its a counter attack so the Spurs don't. I doubt Malone could be as effective as Eddie Griffin has been lately.

lol

BULLS WIN AGAIN!!!

111-81 against the Cavs with a minute left.

What an earth is going on :D

How the hell did Eddie Griffen jack up 15 3's in the Wolves game just quietly?

HOLY SHIT 7-15! Hells YEAH! FUCK YOU KARL MALONE!

Kobe is nothing special.

Lakers won't make the playoffs.

Shaq was right.

Malone is the man

Also, Kid Robb :love:

LOL

How about Tracy McGrady?

Why did everybody give Sebastian Telfair so much shit? He is the fucking man BTW

I just did my all-star ballot:

West:
F Kevin Garnett
F Amare Staudemier
G Ray Allen
G Manu Ginobili
C Erick Dampier

East
F Grant Hill
F Richard Jefferson
G LeBron James
G Gilbert Arenas
C Shaq

The West really doesn't have a dominant center, and don't tell me that Yao is dominant. After voting, I realize that I probably should have voted for Steve Nash, but meh. I was really tempted to vote for Alonzo over Shaq, but nah.

Well Yao is way better than Dampier this year. Dampier is not an all star this year. If you want a center in the West, go with Yao or Brad Miller. Maybe Kobe or Nash over Manu but, I can see why you voted for Manu. Kobe and Nash just have been more consistent overall. Lastly, I don't agree with Arenas. He's good, but not that good. I'd put Dwayne Wade there. But other than that, I agree. RJ has had a great year on a bad team and Amare is a monster this year.