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Triple A 10-10-2004 09:43 PM

JETS AND GIANTS, WHOOOOOOOOO
 
Mark my words. If the Jets can beat the Patriots the week after next, they are gonna start at least 8-0, because Herm Edwards made their schedule or something.

Oct 17 San Francisco 1:00pm
Oct 24 @New England 4:05pm
Nov 1 Miami 9:00pm
Nov 7 @Buffalo 1:00pm
Nov 14 Baltimore 1:00pm
Nov 21 @Cleveland 1:00pm
Nov 28 @Arizona 4:15pm
Dec 5 Houston 1:00pm
Dec 12 @Pittsburgh 4:05pm

Besides Baltimore and NE, they are gonna win all those games. They have the easiest schedule of all time. That's why I'm not sure about them yet. :mad:

The Giants though. :love: :love: :love:

OssMan 10-10-2004 09:48 PM

yesssssssssssss

Jesus Shuttlesworth 10-10-2004 10:15 PM

Damn hate the Jets

Gertner 10-10-2004 10:40 PM

Trips you silly goose you. The Jets aren't gonna beat the Patriots!



Silly!!!!!!




Gertner"Metrosexual":heart:

Loose Cannon 10-10-2004 10:42 PM

:D

Y2Ant 10-10-2004 11:28 PM

That TD catch by Shockey was pretty hot

Roy Williams didn't like it though :(

Jerichoholic 10-11-2004 12:17 AM

Cowboys :(

Roy Williams is still the man though, mostly because Darren Woodson is hurt, those had to give up his position of being 'the man'.

Innovator 10-11-2004 02:01 AM

Just like Chris Benoit, the Giants are FOR REAL

MRAT=VEGETABLES 10-11-2004 02:08 AM

I just got back rom the Jets game a few hours ago....
but i agree that were not going to know what the Jets are made of until week 15-17
Seattle
New England
@St. Louis

VonErich Lives 10-11-2004 03:35 AM

if Curtis keeps playing like he is, anything is possible.

NE, Balt, Hou, Cleveland and Pittsburg could all be tough games for the Jets.

DaveWadding 10-11-2004 03:36 AM

I don't think Cle is that tough. Everyone is underrating Houston..and Pittsburgh is just explosive when they wanna be.

road doggy dogg 10-11-2004 04:01 AM

They're gonna lose to Miami

road doggy dogg 10-11-2004 04:02 AM

Sorry that was my #1-wwf-fan retarded post of the night



Don't think they'll win the division but they have a good chance of a wildcard spottttt

#1-norm-fan 10-11-2004 06:30 AM

WTF are you talking about now?

Gonzo 10-11-2004 11:17 AM

Giants baby, looked piss poor in the first half then came out in the second half and opened it up on Big D.

I was surprised Seattle lost too, crazy.

slextremely 10-11-2004 03:36 PM

Ya Jets will get a Wild Card. Pennington is playing pretty good right now, We'll see if they can hang with New England. in a few weeks.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 10-11-2004 03:38 PM

I got a picture of Curtis Martin hanging on my wall right now, back when he was with the Patriots

VonErich Lives 10-11-2004 03:43 PM

The giants might be for real.. but can they hold up... will the "new tiki" keep going?

I dunno, coughlin teams tend to get tired and fold near the end of the year... will be interesting to see... they don't have an easy schedule, and they play some strong defensive teams...

but should be fun to watch.

Gonzo 10-11-2004 03:45 PM

VEL GET OUT OF MY HOUSE.

But seriously, you make a valid point, seems what happened with his Jaguar teams.

We will have to see, I am excited, Tiki is playing the best football of his life.

el fregadero 10-11-2004 05:06 PM

That must be why he brought the Jaguars to the AFC Championship game in their second year. The Giants team is much better than the Jags were that year, so I don't see why they shouldn't be considered a threat.

Gonzo 10-11-2004 08:26 PM

I'm not saying that the Jaguars didn't accomplish anything under Coughlin, but in the latter part of his tenure in Jacksonville his teams weren't too spectacular.

VonErich Lives 10-11-2004 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el fregadero
That must be why he brought the Jaguars to the AFC Championship game in their second year. The Giants team is much better than the Jags were that year, so I don't see why they shouldn't be considered a threat.

I'd hardly call that a great team... nor would I claim the Giants are much better.

That Jags team didn't even win their own division, and it was a very weak division w/ exception of that years Steelers team who won the division.

Coughlin is know as a "tough coach" and has always run his players into the ground... maybe he's learned... but only time will tell.

He has them doing full contact pads practices late in the season and puts his players at risk.

I don't know if he still does it, but he used to have a rule that coaches couldn't wear sunglases on the sidelines, it was a sign of "weakness".

It's too early to say a team like the Giants are for real, but they have the potential. A lot of teams have potential and a lot of players are playing above their head... check back mid season... Can Tiki keep holding onto the ball? Cause if he starts dropping it again, Coughlin will bench him so fast his head will spin. can Warner stay healthy? and they don't exactly have an easy schedule...

I'm not saying they're not a good team, but I'm waiting a few more games to see how they shake out.

VonErich Lives 10-11-2004 08:58 PM

Also, as for season #2 of an expansion team. That has more to do w/ drafting then coaching.

don't forget, he got the job 18months before they played a game, he had plenty of time to scout... and even w/ that I'm not sure if he was the player personal guy...

not saying he's a bad coach, just not putting him up there like some people do.

The Answer 10-11-2004 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y2Ant
That TD catch by Shockey was pretty hot

Roy Williams didn't like it though :(

That Shockey push off didn't help.Easily offensive pass interference

road doggy dogg 10-11-2004 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadManWalkin
That Shockey push off didn't help.Easily offensive pass interference

Yup :y:: Lucky break for the Giants on that one

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2004 03:59 AM

Seriously... the refereeing in the NFL gets more and more rediculous every year. It's almost like when instant replay started, the officials looked at it as an okay to start half-assing their calls more than usual. Really, a little concentration. I don't expect every little call to be dead on but stuff like the Shockey interference, the interference on Bennett early in the game tonight, and the Trent Green "sack" last week along with about a million other plays this season alone just taint alot of the games.

BabyHugger 10-12-2004 04:41 AM

Giants are outplaying everyone, they have mad heart, and that will take them far. That all stems from Coughlin being the fuckin man.

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2004 05:16 AM

Tom Coughlin looks exactly like a rabbit, by the way. It's scary.

VonErich Lives 10-12-2004 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan
Seriously... the refereeing in the NFL gets more and more rediculous every year. It's almost like when instant replay started, the officials looked at it as an okay to start half-assing their calls more than usual. Really, a little concentration. I don't expect every little call to be dead on but stuff like the Shockey interference, the interference on Bennett early in the game tonight, and the Trent Green "sack" last week along with about a million other plays this season alone just taint alot of the games.

There's an old saying "let them play".

You tend to see this near the end of games, where something has to be blatent otherwise they let things slip both ways.

I think w/ the enforcements of the 5yd bump rule (which has almost become a 0yd bump rule) they are lightening up on some of the other calls...

el fregadero 10-12-2004 02:19 PM

Alot of roughing the passer calls are iffy.

VonErich Lives 10-12-2004 03:17 PM

yeah, the NFL is really going out of their way to protect the QB, such as the no hitting below the waist rule.

Which I understand cause a few years ago like 1/2 the starting QB's got injured and watching Brady, Pennington, Culpepper and Manning is a big difference then there backups.

Gonzo 10-12-2004 04:32 PM

The reason they are so touchy is because quarterbacks were getting hurt too much.

As for the Shockey penalty, yeah it was blatant. However there are times when the opposition gets calls in their favor as well. :-\

Loose Cannon 10-17-2004 05:59 PM

5-0. :D I am in like heaven right now with NY SPORTS. JETS AND YANKS.

Triple A 10-17-2004 09:53 PM

The Jets opponents combined are like 6-22. Three one win teams, Miami, and the other three wins are from the Chargers.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 10-17-2004 10:43 PM

Patriots just beat the Seahawks and have already beaten the Colts

FakeLaser 10-18-2004 07:08 PM

G-MENNNNNNNNN

DegenerationY 10-19-2004 02:53 AM

The Jets almost lost a lock on Sunday to the Niners. Luckily for them, the Niners remembered that they suck, just in time.

DegenerationY 10-19-2004 02:53 AM

P.S.

:'(

Y2Ant 10-20-2004 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
Patriots just beat the Seahawks and have already beaten the Colts

The Colts game was close though :mad:

Loose Cannon 11-07-2004 03:59 PM

There's like 20 Football threads in here, so I'm posting in the one closest to my post.

Fuck the Canadian Bills. That is All.

Kris P Lettus 11-07-2004 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
Besides Baltimore and NE, they are gonna win all those games.

ahahahahahaha

*cough*Willis*cough*

#1-norm-fan 11-07-2004 04:32 PM

Quincy's crackhead ass will bring them back. JUST WATCH.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 11-07-2004 04:54 PM

What happened to Pennington?

I was watching it, change the channel, change back to the game and Carter is throwing a TD pass :wtf:

Also, what ened up happening? It got cut off here becuase the Patriots game came on

Kris P Lettus 11-07-2004 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
What happened to Pennington?

Hurt his throwing shoulder..

Bills won by 5..

Gonzo 11-07-2004 05:54 PM

Fucking Giants man. :mad:

Crimson 11-07-2004 07:19 PM

lol , Giants suck. I always said they were overrated.

BabyHugger 11-07-2004 07:47 PM

THey don't suck, shut the hell up, that is a giant ignorant statement. Their D is great, and their offense has problems, but they are a playoff team, shut the hell up.

VonErich Lives 11-07-2004 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabyHugger
THey don't suck, shut the hell up, that is a giant ignorant statement. Their D is great, and their offense has problems, but they are a playoff team, shut the hell up.

They're over-rated, but not as much as their coach.

Do they have a shot at the playoffs? Sure, they could get a wild card... won't be easy... they don't have too many gimme games the 2nd half of the season.

oh, and their D is good, it's not great...

I also wouldn't say they "Suck", but w/ that coach and a few players who played over their head the 1st half of the season that might come back down to earth fast (or are) I wouldn't be shocked to see them go 1-7 or 2-6 over the 2nd half.

But as I said, they have a shot... but so does most the NFC right now at a wild card.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 11-07-2004 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
Hurt his throwing shoulder..

Bills won by 5..

McGahee :cool:

"WOO THAT GUYS ON MY FANTASY TEAM"

Kris P Lettus 11-07-2004 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
McGahee :cool:

It's good to see him doing well after that national championship game a couple of years ago..

Scary shit..

On a sadder note, the Aints are fucking horrible..

:'(

Who Dat??

Jesus Shuttlesworth 11-07-2004 08:16 PM

Too bad McGahee has to play for the Bills though. Can't stand them.

OssMan 11-07-2004 08:30 PM

yeah I have McGahee on my fantasy team, but I put Brian Westbrook in instead of him, I don't know what the fuck is going on though. Westbrook had like the worst game ever, stupid injury.

BabyHugger 11-07-2004 09:14 PM

Everyone expected the Giants to win like 4 games his yr, how could they be overrated.

Triple A 11-07-2004 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
ahahahahahaha

*cough*Willis*cough*

"ahahahhaaha.."

Triple A 11-07-2004 11:53 PM

Yeah Pennington got "injured" on a sack. He is alright though I think. He looked fine on the sidelines. Also, the gay Bills just ran the clock out. The last 4 mins or whatever. Whatever.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 11-08-2004 12:12 AM

Hopefully the Jets come back to reality now

Triple A 11-08-2004 12:21 AM

Nah they are alright. They were doing well on offense but got nothing for some reason. They missed like a 30yd FG on their first drive, and the wind was crazy and shit. Plus, Buffalo has like the #2 D in the league. It's alright. They will go 12-4 I predict.

#1-norm-fan 11-08-2004 12:25 AM

Vinatieri kicked 4 FGs, 4 extra points, and threw a TD.

He is on my fantasy team. Despite my dislike of New England, he is now the man.

Kris P Lettus 11-08-2004 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
"ahahahhaaha.."

Triple A, you piece of shit..

Kris P Lettus 11-08-2004 12:37 AM

Thought we were better than this..

Kris P Lettus 11-08-2004 12:38 AM

Also thought the Jets were better than that..

Kris P Lettus 11-08-2004 12:38 AM

zing

#1-norm-fan 11-08-2004 12:45 AM

Leave the fucking Jets alone. Them losing is SO early game.

Bears beat the Giants in the late game. Let's stick with the times and make fun of them.

Kris P Lettus 11-08-2004 12:47 AM

Did Eli get any PT??

Triple A 11-08-2004 12:48 AM

Kris P Lettus, you are the worst poster of all time.

Triple A 11-08-2004 12:48 AM

Nah Eli didn't.

#1-norm-fan 11-08-2004 12:49 AM

Nope.

Kris P Lettus 11-08-2004 01:10 AM

heh

And to think, less than a year ago I was in your top 20..

:wavesad:

road doggy dogg 11-08-2004 01:32 AM

LOL wow, like everyone's team lost this week :|

Jets lost
Giants lost
Lions lost
Cowboys lost
Eagles lost
Vikings might lose tomorrow night
Saints lost
Rams lost

Depressing week :wavesad: (except for Supreme, and some others :foc: )

Triple A 11-08-2004 01:34 AM

It's OK though. The Bengals are awful.

Innovator 11-08-2004 01:53 AM

If the Giants can figure out how to beat the easy teams, then we're good to go.

VonErich Lives 11-08-2004 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg
LOL wow, like everyone's team lost this week :|

Jets lost
Giants lost
Lions lost
Cowboys lost
Eagles lost
Vikings might lose tomorrow night
Saints lost
Rams lost

Depressing week :wavesad: (except for Supreme, and some others :foc: )

Pats won, all is well.

I am suprised how bad the Lions looked... I even started Jones on one of my Fantasy teams, cause he looked good last week and Wash had some injuries upfront... that didn't work out too well...

DaveWadding 11-08-2004 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg

Rams lost



Believe me, I'm not surprised (Which is why I picked the Pats this week :$)

VonErich Lives 11-08-2004 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding
Believe me, I'm not surprised (Which is why I picked the Pats this week :$)

Any chance you'll finally get a good coach when the year is over?

Martz is another great Coordinator, horrible coach.

DaveWadding 11-08-2004 03:40 AM

I dunno. I was pushing for them to fire/demote Martz last year and then promote Lovie...which never happened.

VonErich Lives 11-08-2004 03:42 AM

Hey Trips - Strahan, torn Pec... out at least 1 month, MRI today to see if he's done for the season.

Triple A 11-08-2004 03:53 AM

wtf

Triple A 11-08-2004 03:53 AM

Says who

VonErich Lives 11-08-2004 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
Says who

Was just on ESPN radio, and someone had told me he left the game early... so could be true...

Triple A 11-08-2004 03:57 AM

Yeah he definitely injured his pec during the game, but I didn't hear that he could be done for the season. :mad:

VonErich Lives 11-08-2004 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
Yeah he definitely injured his pec during the game, but I didn't hear that he could be done for the season. :mad:

Yeah, they said MRI today... depends on how bad the tear is...

Y2Ant 11-08-2004 12:45 PM

It doesn't matter for me this week, one of my teams will win, one will lose :o

I think i'd rather have Indy pick up the win though, as they need it more right now.

Minnesota can then beat Green Bay next week, Indy can beat Houston, and Detroit can beat Jacksonville. :cool:

Y2Ant 11-08-2004 12:45 PM

I bet all three of those games next week goes the exact opposite of what I just said :(

el fregadero 11-08-2004 01:03 PM

Jacksonville is going to finally get a blowout win instead of that last minute victory stuff.

Innovator 11-08-2004 05:34 PM

Sweet, there goes the season, Strahan out for the remainder.

VonErich Lives 11-08-2004 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator
Sweet, there goes the season, Strahan out for the remainder.

Yeah, not that the Giants were really going places... possible a wild card... but wouldn't have counted on that...

Unless coughlin has changed, he's always been known to work his players to hard, hence injuries.

Plus, I think Warner and Barber have been playing above their heads, well, especially Barber... will be interesting how they do the rest of the season, Strahan will hurt, but if the offense stays intact they should still be able to compete.

Triple A 11-08-2004 06:25 PM

VEL, you have no idea what you are talking about. The Giants really have been playing great. It is not a fluke. And the NFC is weak, so they should be able to make the playoffs easy. Their only competition for the wild card is Detroit, Green Bay, and St. Louis. All three of those teams are 4-4 right now.

road doggy dogg 11-08-2004 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives
Pats won, all is well.

I am suprised how bad the Lions looked... I even started Jones on one of my Fantasy teams, cause he looked good last week and Wash had some injuries upfront... that didn't work out too well...

You're not included in "everyone".


Also, Kevin Jones is not what Detroit needs. If I were Mariucci, I'd just say, "Hey, we have one excellent first-round pick in Williams, so fuck Jones and let's make Pinner our #1."

Pinner > Jones

Rain Man 11-08-2004 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives
Yeah, not that the Giants were really going places... possible a wild card... but wouldn't have counted on that...

Unless coughlin has changed, he's always been known to work his players to hard, hence injuries.

Plus, I think Warner and Barber have been playing above their heads, well, especially Barber... will be interesting how they do the rest of the season, Strahan will hurt, but if the offense stays intact they should still be able to compete.

What are you talking about? Look at the NFC.. How can the Giants not being going places the conference is not good at all. Has does Strahan getting an injury in the game have anything to do with Coughlin running his players too much. Odviously by Coughlin pushign his players look at the difference between this year and last year. And Warner and Barber are not playing abover their heads.. They are just playing very well.. WTF are you talking about?

Gonzo 11-08-2004 07:44 PM

Oh my god..Michael.. :'(

Supreme Olajuwon 11-09-2004 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
It's OK though. The Bengals are awful.

Why are you capitalizing ok like some sort of big dick?

Triple A 11-09-2004 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme
Why are you capitalizing ok like some sort of big dick?

Because it is either OK or okay. Not Ok or ok. I do not enjoy typing in all lowercase letters to look kewl.

Triple A 11-09-2004 02:01 AM

(hot feud btw)

Jesus Shuttlesworth 11-09-2004 08:03 PM

How bout them Patriots

VonErich Lives 11-10-2004 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
VEL, you have no idea what you are talking about. The Giants really have been playing great. It is not a fluke. And the NFC is weak, so they should be able to make the playoffs easy. Their only competition for the wild card is Detroit, Green Bay, and St. Louis. All three of those teams are 4-4 right now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WORDLIFEMUTHA
What are you talking about? Look at the NFC.. How can the Giants not being going places the conference is not good at all. Has does Strahan getting an injury in the game have anything to do with Coughlin running his players too much. Odviously by Coughlin pushign his players look at the difference between this year and last year. And Warner and Barber are not playing abover their heads.. They are just playing very well.. WTF are you talking about?

Yawn, yeah ok whatever... so this years excuse will be strahan... what will next years be?

Barber is playing over his head, he's not as good as he's playing, and he will at some point break down and come back to earth.

But hey, I understand, the Giants fans don't have much to hold onto.

Should just rebuild, one thing Coughlin was good at was finding talent, get rid of some high priced guys and rebuild the team.

and no, it's not coughling "pushing a team" he was known in jacksonville for doing stupid things like full pads contact practice late in the season and that's how players get tired and get injured.

Who knows, maybe strahan was an early sign of that.

Triple A 11-10-2004 03:15 AM

You are an idiot. Shut up. I guarantee you have not watched any Giants games this season. Barber really is nuts. He has been playing great every game this season. It's not just one or two games. It's consistent. If you watch him it is insane. You think he's going to be tackled, then he just teleports or some shit and gains 7 yards.

VonErich Lives 11-10-2004 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
You are an idiot. Shut up. I guarantee you have not watched any Giants games this season. Barber really is nuts. He has been playing great every game this season. It's not just one or two games. It's consistent. If you watch him it is insane. You think he's going to be tackled, then he just teleports or some shit and gains 7 yards.

Yes, hence the term "playing over his head"...

Really Trips, I thought you were smarter then this... what is this your first year following the NFL? Do you think Barber is a rookie? or are you assuming he's just a late bloomer and all his problems are magicly gone now that Coughlins here?

That's fine, I just think we'll see the old Tiki back at some point... might not be this season, might be next... we'll have to wait and see....

VonErich Lives 11-10-2004 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg
You're not included in "everyone".


Also, Kevin Jones is not what Detroit needs. If I were Mariucci, I'd just say, "Hey, we have one excellent first-round pick in Williams, so fuck Jones and let's make Pinner our #1."

Pinner > Jones

Pinner has looked good, but they can't giveup on jones yet, especially so soon off injury.

he gets back to 100% and blows chunks the rest of the year, different story.

Triple A 11-10-2004 03:21 AM

What problems? He hasn't lost a single fumble this season. He has obviously done a lot to improve himself during the offseason too.

I don't get what the hell you're talking about.

VonErich Lives 11-10-2004 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A
What problems? He hasn't lost a single fumble this season. He has obviously done a lot to improve himself during the offseason too.

I don't get what the hell you're talking about.

again, you do realise there was an NFL before this season? You do understand this wasn't his first year?

Really Trips, this is like talking to Wadding about the Rams.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...s?statsId=3937

There, now look at his career stats...

he's on pace to have his 2nd highest yds per rush avg, beat his total rush yards by 253yds, etc... etc... the biggest change is he hasn't put the ball on the ground.

Now, yes... sometimes when a player makes a drastic improvement mid-career it's continues, he's a late bloomer or whatever you want to call it. Personally, I see the fumbling coming back and coughling wont stand for that and Tiki will be on the bench or gone. might not be this year, this could be his "1 hit year" so to speak... and I'm not saying he's a horrible player, far from it... the fumbling has been what's always hurt his career.

again, time will tell.


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