Moss' Touchdown Celebration
 

Honestly, it wasn't that bad. Slap him with a fine, who cares? I swear the NFL is paying ESPN to make Randy sound bad. Mock mooning...oh my god my eyes burn!!! It's not like he actually mooned anybody, and its not like he flicked them off, he was just happy and joking around with the Green Bay fans. STFU about it being the worst thing ever, give him the fine and then laugh about it, because it was funny.

That was a classless act by Randy Moss right there. I am disgusted.

lol

If he went through with actually mooning then something could be done, but cmon NFL lighten the fuck up.

If he actually mooned them he would be my idol.

Next time he should whip his dong out and piss on the goal post or something.

Getting peed on = Ratings

Ask assman.

Its tradition for Green bay fans to moon the away teams bus when it pulls in. So i loved Moss's td celebration. ( Accept for the whole scratching his ass thing on the td post )

Yeah it is fucking ridiculous. ESPN was treating it like the worst thing of all time. They were like "we are not going to air it, but believe me, it was awful". What the fuck.

NFL would be a lot more entertaining if they would lighten up about the TD celebrations.

To a certain extent Sir Funk.

The group celebration ban is dumb too.

I am not saying that Moss shouldn't be given a slight fine, because the NFL is obviously trying to get the largest possible audience so they want to offend the least possible people, but the way that the commentators and then the Sports Center types were talking about it was like he actually did break out his bare ass on the field.

So gay, he is like the best heel of all tiem for doing that in GB.

oh no randy did something controversial what are we goinna do omg!

lol word bad guy

It doesn't surprise me. It wasn't as bad as they are making it out to be. They are making a bigger deal out of this than when he walked off the field. :|

He walked off the field with two seconds left in a game where they had to recover an onside and score a touchdown on a hail mary.

Its kinda looking racial if you ask me. I mean when Jake Plummer flipped his finger , they not only reported the story but hell the cliff hanger going to commercial was like " Wait til you see what Jake plummer did in San Diego you do not wanna miss this "

Last i checked , flipping the finger is alot worse then mocking fan acting like your gunna moon someone. Comon. This is ridiculous. ESPN look like morons especially. Probably because they are. You show plummer being a fucking douche bag , but you wont show Randy Moss being a someone what ass ( no pun ) but not nearly a fucking douche bag.

Sad to see ESPN tear people down. Really is. They did it to Artest when he asked for some time off. There doing it to Vince Carter imo. Vince Carter doesnt seem like the total ass hat that ESPN was making him out to be. Hell there doing it to Kobe Bryant. All of a sudden everyone hates Kobe. ESPN made him out to be this horrible person. Like that interview he had during a halftime of a game where they were just like a firing squad at him. Putting him on the spot. Thats just sad to me.

ESPN. You do something great.. you get a highlight. You do something wrong. Your the news story and the object in which we tear down , for atleast 5 days.

Thx ESPN. cocksuckers.

Yea group celebrations were usually hilarious. Its so dumb they got rid of them, group celebrations were never "controversial" or anything either. So the NFL just brought this upon themselves.

yes group clebrations rule. I remember the week after Joe Horn cellphone thing, David Carr and Corey Bradford scored a td. And they ran over to the goalpost looking for a cellphone to imitate Joe Horn. Then a few fat lineman ran in and were like :nono: and they ran off. It was a huge verbal bitchslap to the NFL. David Carr rulez.



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Group celebrations always make me think of that celebration thing from Any Given Sunday.

yeah, the dirty bird kicked ass also back in the day.

Isn't spiking the ball against the rules, too?

Yea I think so.

Rectal Protruder understands

el freg, if it's meant to "taunt" the other team then its illegal. But they allow it out of happiness or something. Pritty gay though how the refs decide if its a taunt or not.

Everytime I see a RB score and give the ball to a lineman, who proceeds to spike it, they always get an unsportsmanlike conduct called on them.

Moss is still the man.

And I love the fro :cool:

I liked when they threw the ball like it was a bomb and it landed in a circle of players and they all fell down..lol

I'm sorry but talk about fucked up priorities.

Steriods, spousal abuse, racism etc are totally ignored by the sporting media and fans but a palyer pretends to moon at the crowd and you'd have thought he'd have beaten up a fan on the pitch from the way that Joe Buck went on.

Moss has to live with the consequences, like Owens did. It makes Moss a target. It fires up defenders as much as it fires up his own team.

For fucks sake if you are going to get upset, get upset about something important.

It's ignored? maybe in your country... and the NFL has some of the tightest rules of any league, not just drugs but off-field conduct.

Owens TD celebrations are even funnier. I thought it was hilarious when he ripped down that sign that said "It takes one to know one" in Cleveland. I was also cracking up after he scored he threw the ball in the dead center of the "TO has B.O." sign on the wall in the back of the endzone.

What does "It takes one to know one" refer to?

Obviously, you missed the point.

What happened actually was that there were two seconds left and little chance of anything happening, so Moss started walking, but there was much more time before the kickoff then Moss anticipated. Meaning if they kicked off when he started walking, like he anticipated, it wouldn't be a deal at all.

When he was implying that Garica was gay, he was like "You know what they say, if it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, acts like a rat then by golly it's a rat"

So it "takes one to know one" was refering to the "rat" comment.

Ohhhh, Lol nice

That's not what he said. He said he did it so that he didn't do "something worse."

Honestly, I don't think they're making such a big deal out of his mooning thing because he mooned the audience. I think it's just the fact that this is the latest in, like, a five-year string of this bigger-than-the-team bullshit (two of which have occured on consecutive weeks), and Kobe hasn't done anything stupid to make news in the last couple of weeks.

He's clearly not the biggest heel in the league. He's not even the biggest jackass in the league. But what he did was nationally televised, and it was monumentally stupid, so it makes for good television. It'll be news for a couple of weeks until whoever the Yankees sign next make an un-PC comment or Kobe accuses another former teammate of making a pass at his wife or Sprewell chokes somebody new.

He is still a jackass, though.

Oh, also, in regards to el freg:

If you have to throw up a hail mary, don't you want your best receiver...I'unno...NOT in the locker room?

Loopy, he has said a lot of things. That is the reason he gave that the media picked up on the most. I am not trying to defend him, I know it was wrong and that there are like 10 excuses being thrown out, but I can kind of see where he is coming from. Being in Minnesota, I have heard quite a bit more in the issue then people now here, which includes an exclusive call in interview on our local talk station.

Basically he said that if he stayed out there he may have gone crazy and started throwing things and cussing etc, so he calmly left before it happened, and that he didn't think the game would still be going as long as it did.

It wasn't the right thing to do regardless, I don't think anybody agrees with him, but the media has its ways of blurring things to make it look as bad as possible. Some of the cuts they make in interviews are rediculous. After the playoff win, he was responding to a question and he said something like this:

"All week it was Randy Randy Randy, you didn't hear nothing about the loss in Washington, so that takes a lot of pressure off the rest of the guys. I can take the pressure, I am fine with it, etc etc etc"

But then on Sports Center that night:

Stuart Scott: Randy Moss has always been full of himself

*cuts to clip*

"All week it was Randy Randy Randy"

I mean thats kind of rediculous

I don't see a problem with what he did, expecially if it's true about what the Green Bay fan's do when the opposing team's bus leaves. If anything, i find it entertaining. He wasn't taunting the opposing team, to me he was poking fun at the fans. Fan's heckle the player's all the time, so what's the problem?

Well, the only difference I see is the fans are not being payed to be there.

Also, BCWWF, I didn't see that interview but every time I saw the interview on ESPN, ESPN2, and other stations it had the full version. So I dunno.

I'm sorry but a 4 game ban for a second offence and a 2 game ban for trying to run your wife over does not strike me as an example of 'tight rules'.

Funny how everyone has got bigger and faster over the last 20 years in the NFL but not in anyother sports... or indeed non-NFL life.

Well I can't say whether or not they have done steroids, since I haven't seen piss tests, but being bigger and faster can easily be explained by heavier training regimens and whatnot. They are probably worked way harder than they were 20 years ago, and for that are in better shape.

Or they are a bunch of juicers, but who knows.

Your right, trying to run over your wife shouldn't be handeled by sports, it should be handeled in the courts.

If you go and smack the crap out of your wife and the judge gives you probation, your job can't fire you, so I'm not sure what action you're looking for?

As for "bigger and faster" actually, people have gotten bigger and faster in almost every sport and as Newz said above, it has a lot to do with training.

High School sports teams start hitting the weights as freshman, some kids start working out as young as 10yrs old.

The increase in stnegth/speed etc... has more to do w/ modern workour routines. Mickey Mantle did 12oz curls, todays top athletes treat their body like a temple, not just workouts but diet.

Yeah, when my high school got on the BFS program (Bigger, faster, and stronger), I went from like 180 to 215, increased my 40 time from a atrocious 5.2 to a respectable 4.8 or so (lineman here so that is semi-good), my bench went from like 180 to 260 or so. Squat went from 270 or so to 370 or so. Deadlift went from 350 or so to 480. I have never juiced in my life, so I can see HOW you get bigger, faster, and stronger.

http://members.cox.net/sbrooks2005/RandyMossMoon2.gif :rofl: :rofl:

Well you must be European then, because we all know that its only the Americans who cheat :o

I'm sorry that is bullshit. All you are doing is once again abrogating your responsibility. Why the hell should we laud drug takers, wife-beaters and racists as heros and yet at the same time treat a player who pretends to moon as being the most evil player out.

Joe Buck claimed it was the most disgusting thing he had ever seen, obviously ignoring the lauding of fans and media of Pete Rose (gambler), Michael Pittman (wife beater), Lawrence Taylor (drug taker), John Rocker (racist). This is to give an example of each. I'm sure that if I gave it more than 30 seconds thought I could come up with a much longer list of people who have done far worse than pretend to ( & not even really) bare his arse.

Once again you are demonstrating the fucked up priorities of sports fans (Irrespective of nation). A wife beating, drug taking and racism are ok but pretending to moon is 'the most disgusting thing'.

BCWWF what exactly has Americans cheating got to do with anything? Who mentioned nationality? You do yourself a diservice with such stupid remarks.

A simple comparison highlights the point I am trying to convey: We are not talking about the 1970s when players like Bilentnikoff used to smoke on the sideline. This is the late 1980s.

Vikings line 1988

Zimmerman 6-6 284
McDaniel 6-3 268
Lowdermilk 6-3 264
Kalis 6-5 269
irwin 6-9 290

Vikings line 2004

McKinnie 6-8 345
Liwienski 6-5 325
Birk 6-4 309
Dixon 6-5 345
Dorsey 6-7 322

Are you seriously trying to claim that in 15 years the weight of an average lineman will increase by 40-60lbs purely on the basis of 'better training'? If you believe that then you really do have your head in the sand about drug abuse?

I hate to say this but this argument is going the same way as when I suggested that Bonds record should have an asteriks and you claimed that it was perfectly reasonable to claim that Bonds's improved stats were simply the result of better conditioning and eating more broccoli and we all know how much credibility your arguments have these days...

You are entitled to believe what you want and that's fine but you'd better get ready to do your RIP's and 'respect threads' in about 10 years time when players start to keel over at the same rate as wrestlers.

Corey Stringer was on the Vikings line in 1998

I'm sorrie I don't see how every lineman in the NFL now does steroids all of a sudden. That is pathetic. The Bonds argument is weak and totally seperate.

Also, looking at the Vikings offensive line in 98 and 04 doesn't mean much. The Vikings have an especially large offensive line this year, and for all I know they had a particularly small one back then. Its like taking one skittle out of a bag and concluding that all the skittles are that color.

LOL John Rocker got mad heat for his comments and pretty much given no chance to get his rep back, Pete Rose is not allowed into the hall of fame and is constantly looked down upon, so I don't see what your argument is with them?

Niggers :roll:

No one said drug takers, wife-beaters and racists should be treated as hero's good job putting words in my mouth. What I tried explaning to you (let's try again) sports is a job, and legally you can't fire someone for actions that don't effect their job performance. Also, legally you commit a crime and you face your penalty and you go on, you get a 2nd chance. What would you suggest? Anyone w/ a crime loses their job? Anyone who is a first time offender gets sentenced to death?

1) "Seen" he never watched any of those happen!

2) Buck was doing a job and the concern at that point was "FCC could find us" hence as the on-air rep of the network he made harsh comments.

3) What should one now do, when commenting on one event, bring up 50 others as refrence

4) I know he called it Disgusting but I can't find a refrence of him saying it was "the most disgusting thing he's ever seen" but it's possible he did say that, and again, the other things you talk about he didn't see and again, he was trying to protect the network/

Again, putting words in my mouth, never said wife beating, drug taking and racism are ok.

Yes, also you forget that lines have different priorities... heck, some lines flux 30lbs a person in a year because they go from a small/quick line style to a big size line. The problem isn't anyones head in the sand, we all know there is drug abuse, but you can't blame everyone and everything on drug abuse.

Also as point out Stringer was on the 1988 line, so please re-check your facts.

Yes and until Bonds admitted to roids and was caught you're innocent until proven guilty and there are other people who have had great feats and improved w/o Roids. Should we all assume Tiki Barber is on roids rather then he just took his offseason workout more seriously?

I never said Bonds wasn't on roids, I said there was no proof, only guesses and most the people guessing had no clue what they were talking about.

Yes, you believe what you want, and when players careers and names are ruid by false accusations you can feel good about yourself.

Go back and read the dates. Read what I said

Stringer was a member of the Vikings line in 1998

The Vikings line I gave you was 1988. A 10 year difference.

The Vikings line was 'big' then.

The largest lineman drafted in 1988 was Tony Mandrich at 315.

John Rocker lost his job because he couldn't throw strikes not for being a racist or homophobe.

Had he still been able to strike people out then he would still be treated like a hero. That to me is fucked up.

You claimed that the NFL has a 'strict' drugs policy. The standard penalty for failing a drugs test is a 2 year ban. For failing a second test is a lifetime ban. In the NFL the penalty for failing a second test is a 4 week ban.

No one who does a 'normal' job is paid millions of pounds or has sponsorship deals, nor are they treated as heros by the media and thousands of people. Thus your argument is irrelevent.

Are you telling me that Joe Buck has never sat down and read an article saying that Pete Rose should be forgiven for gambling, etc? Does Joe Buck live in a cupboard during the week and only come out on sundays for games?

The very fact that you are trying to argue a position of saying that criminal and anti-social behaviour should not have a bearing on how we view people demonstrates that you place conduct on the field as more important (and thus worse) than wife beating or racism.

Bob Knight said it best, there are guys in the hall of fame that have done much worse (wife beaters, drug addicts etc), but they are in there because they were good at baseball, so Pete Rose should be in there too.

Ok, my and (someone else’s, not you!) misread that, still players do get bigger and stronger, they have in all sports. 40-60lbs over 16yrs that’s 2.5 – 3.75/lbs a year. You also need to account heights in that.

A Hero? No. Do I agree with his views, no, but he’s allowed to have them. He doesn’t have to like someone because they are gay, or black, or Jewish etc. It’s stupid, but not illegal, if he acts on it, i.e.: has a company and won’t hire blacks or burns a cross on a Jews lawn, that’s illegal. Not all athletes are treated as “Hero’s” not sure where you get that idea.

Standard? Whose standard? The NFL is also the only league I know of that has policies and has suspended players for off-field issues such as “wife-beating”.

Yeah, that makes sense, no it doesn’t that’s you just avoiding questions and counter argument. You don’t lose your job because you break the law unless it affects your job. That being said, athletes who have had problems don’t get sponsorship deals or treated like the so-called “Hero” that you seem to think there all treated as. People can like and cheer for who they want, that’s their choice, people cheered Hitler, doesn’t mean you or I agree with that, but they did.

No, but if you want to pick on exactly what he said, and ignore any reasoning, then let’s go with exactly what you said he said (again, the quotes I’ve seen don’t have the words your using) “SEEN” is the key word your claiming he said, and if that’s the case, he would have had to watched Pete Rose gamble to make your argument.

Again, could you stop making things up that I never said (you don’t look like Kane Knight), I personally do view them differently, I think someone who hits their wife is scum, but does it mean they should be fired from their job? Then what? What job are they allowed to have? Or do they just go on unemployment and when that runs out, social security? How do we decide what crimes are worth someone having their life ruined and someone not getting a 2nd chance? If that’s the way you feel, then why don’t we just give anyone who breaks the law the death penalty, because if they can’t be allowed to have a job, and we should all look down upon them…

No one is saying what Moss did was worse then someone beating their wife, or drug use, etc… Let’s remember this is a guy though who tried to run over a cop (or meter maid?).

But in some people’s opinion, what he did was wrong; does that mean its worse then other hardcore crimes? No.

Let me give you this example.

Someone breaks into a home, no one is there, and they steal a TV and leaves.

Someone breaks into a home, rape and murders the family and steals a TV and leaves.

Both are wrong, both are crimes, both should have penalty, but clearly one is worse then the other.

Pete Rose is not in there for the same reason Joe Jackson isn't.

It's not because he gambled, it's because he bet against his own team.

If they could prove that he bet, and even bet on baseball, but not on games he was involved in and especially against his own team, it would be a much different story.

LOL what

Are you on drugs?

You know what's really fucked up is that Moss gets fined 10k for his mooning and Abraham only gets 7500!!!!!! WHAT KINDA SHIT IS THAT?
So it is far worse to do a harmless gesture towards the crowd than to possibly end a carrer by shoving a big forearm to a QB's head at full speed, that's basically what the NFL is saying. Ridiculoso

What? I don't remember Abraham doing anything like that.

It wasn't Abraham that's why lol

It was the linebacker, fuck, whats his name. #50..Barton i think

I'm going to guess Moss got that fine because it's not a first offense, he's been fined from the league before for stuff like that. (spraying the ref w/ a water bottle).

Are you implying that John Rocker is still a good pitcher or that he would still be treated like a hero? Because there is really no doubt that he is not a good pitcher anymore.

LOL @ MOSS did anyone hear what he said today?

"10,000 aint nothing, they better hope I don't wave my dick next week"

lol awesome.

I ate lunch downtown today, and I was just thinking how sweet that would be for Randy Moss to walk in and start talking shit to people. He is hilarious and the man.

LOL yeah just gonna post that. Hilarious. He is a huge heel.

$10,000 for pretendin to moon? man this is crazy.

I don't think it has as much to do w/ the action as his history and there attempt to crack down on "excesive celebrations"

Also, after the moon, he appeard to wipe his ass on the goal post and I think the league found that more offensive.

I've still yet to hear any other visiting team talk about this "mooning" tradition the colts have, I hope Dungy didn't make it up... Someone asked a great question "Think Dungy would have said anything if it was Jeremy Shockey who did it"

LOL

LOL Moss is the man

ROFL

I am saying he was never treated like a hero. I am not sure where the idea that he was a good pitcher came from. His last season he had like a 6.67 era. Yeah, based on that I think he is a great pitcher.

Seriously...

There is no doubt that John Rocker was a good pitcher for a while though, when he was on the Braves he was a good closer and even the year on the Indians he was alright. I don't know, he definately wasn't treated as a hero but I think there were people out there who liked him.

TD celebrations are what makes the game good to watch.. because the game itself sucks ass... ;) but seriously those are great to watch.

Yeah I was a Rocker fan actually. Before he went psycho and made those comments, he was pretty dominant. Seemed like around that time he just blew up and started having seizures on the mound and just looked like he had tourettes. I dunno what happened to him. :-\

Touchdown celebrations should be limitless, one of the best things about the game.