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Moss wants a trade
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Its not official, it was reported through a second hand source, but read it and weep. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...s/10695548.htm I dunno, it may or may not happen. Personally I like Moss a lot, he is the man and when he plays on his game he is by far the most dangerous player in the league (You could make an argument for Vick too I guess). I guess if he is going to want a trade, it wouldn't be too bad. SF got screwed and got what, a second round DP? The talks right now are stuff like Moss for Adwale Ogunlea, Chris Chambers, and a first round DP For some reason I could see the Redskins making an offer, something like Lavar Arrington, Laverneus Coles, and a DP. We'll see though, Moss would be technical in a Redskins uniform. Miami would be a cool place for him too. I just wish we could get Jason Taylor, because he is the absolute man. |
Ogunleye plays for chicago not the dolphins anymore... I doubt he'll get traded though... either way, he's one of my fav players and I will cheer for whatever team he's on.
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There was talk in the newspapers the other day that the Cards might be interested in him.
Personally, I think that would be an aweful move. We have three great, young recivers in the league. |
That was the talk on Minnesota talk radio for a little a few weeks ago, but I doubt that would be the case because the Cards don't have what the Vikings would neccessarily want and they already have a top tier wide reciever (to be).
If he does get traded, the Dolphins, Redskins, maybe the Ravens or something would be involved. On a note about the Cardinals, it is widely rumored that Chris Hovan is going to go down there next year. Hovan was the Vikings first round draft pick in 2000 I think it was and was a very very promising player. Then these last two years he just hasn't fit in with the Vikings and just walked out pissed from the last day of Vikings practice. Many people think he can go down to Arizona with Denny Green and reach his full potential, which is damn good. |
someone from the Cards said they weren't interested.
the nfl show on hbo, was talking about the Jets. But I think right now it's all blind guessing. The Pats took Dillon who people though was a problem child... lmfao, imagine if Moss came to the Pats and changed his attitude... |
Lol, I don't think Dillon was ever regarded in the same light that Moss is. IMO the Jets don't need Moss, they already have a Moss who is damn good. They just need to work with what they have, boost up a few role players, and they are a really solid team again.
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Moss going to the Ravens would be perfect for him. He needs someone like Ray Lewis on his team so he keeps his shit staright.
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Jets :eek:
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Yeah I don't see why the Jets would really need him. Santana Moss is good news and McCariens has been Pennington's go-to guy this past season. But that would still be hot though.
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TO wouldn't have worked in Baltimore. He needs to be with a great QB, he would have complained about Boller and shit. Boller is being, I don't know how to put this, babied or some shit. Like sheltred from all the bad shit, like whenever his teammates talk about him they talk so high about him. Samething with there coach, I think they are just trying to keep his confendence level up so he can reach his potential. I don't think TO would be willing to do that haha
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The Lavar Arrington, Laverneaus Coles, and draft pick was just an idea I pulled out of my ass, but I think it is realistic. That would be really big IMO, it would be hard not to take that. Do you think its realistic?
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I don't think that could work out for a couple of reasons. I don't know if that would work for the cap since all they all have pretty considerable contracts (don't know off the top of my head, but I know Arrington is in the 8 year- 60 million range with a 20 million signing bonus which he still may be owed and I'm gonna guess that Moss has a huge contract and Coles has a hefty one alse) I also don't think that Gibbs would go for it. Sure, Snyder would kill to bring in Moss but I think Gibbs wouldn't put up with his antics. |
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How about some irony, trade him to the Packers.
AAA: Did you hear about the Jets new punter? Ben Graham, an Aussie. He's a gun, just like Darren Bennett. |
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That and Washington couldn't take advantage of his talent, they don't have a good QB. Just thinking of teams where he'd fit good, not what they'd need to deal, cause figure it will be draft picks. Ravens makes sense. Saints. Falcons. Those are the top 3 that come to mind, good QB's, good RB and could use a true #1 WR. |
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Edge and Stokely for Moss.
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Plus, you'd have to replace edge, and isn't Rhodes a free agent? and he'll cost good money... so, you'd have Moss, Harrison, Manning, and Rhodes or another RB, 4 guys taking up over 1/2 the salary cap. That was the problem in New England when Carol took over for Parcells and didn't really get corrected until Billicheck and Pioli. |
That would be such a good move for the Vikings though, Edge, Bennett, Onterio, Mewelde, Mo :|
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It includes who will/can afford him and he's a good fit. |
Edge and Stokley is way too much for Moss. Yeah, hes one of the top WRs but cmon lets get serious.
You gotta remember, teams going for Moss are going to have to give something up. Like the Jets, would prob have to trade atleast one of their WRs and send over a draft pick or something. Unless the Vikings are gonna go the Bengals route and just trade him for 2nd round pick hahah |
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I don't know about all that. Edge is one of the best running backs in the NFL.
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The Vikings aren't going to trade for a RB, period. If they trade him it will be for a top defensive player, a solid WR, and some sort of draft pick.
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Moss to the Jets for Derek Straight, McCarens, and 1st round pick
Nah just made that one completley up haha |
Maybe he can go to Dallas like he wanted to originally before they decided to go ahead and draft GREG ELLIS.
Dammit, this is gonna bring up 6 year old frustration all over again. I'm pretty sure Moss holds a grudge against them too since he seems to play all pissed off everytime he plays Dallas. |
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Shut your fucking face.. i was throwin that out my ass moron. And no Rhodes was signed last year i believe.. and Yes Edge needs to be traded. Rhodes has Tony Dorsett ability, thats no joke. Edge is in his prime and we need Teddy Bruschi...errrrrrrr a Defensive star.
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Moss > Edge
Translation: Vikings get Bruschi, Colts get Rushen Jones |
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He's not going anywhere, he's his own agent, does his own deal and takes less then he could get elsewhere because he loves it here. |
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Palaxico is a UFA... maybe Minnesota signs him and send Moss to the steelers for some picks?
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If you want to work this out team by team... You can eliminate the Bears, Packers and Lions Falcons need a big play reciever but Moss isn't in their direction Bucs have too many picks tied up in the Gruden trade Saints are realistic, especially if they still have some picks from the Ricky Williams trade Panthers are set at reciever Eagles are set at reciever Cowboys are overloaded at WR and need defense Redskins are a possibility if they could rework a contract, but I don't think Gibbs would take him on Giants would be a good fit, New York teams always have to make big off season moves to stay in the headlines and they need a downfield threat Seahawks are overloaded at WR Rams are set at WR Arizona is set at WR San Fransico needs a franchise offensive player and their recievers are all pretty unproven. On one hand the new coach is probably going to want to spend the money and picks on defense but on the other hand getting Moss would send a message to the fans. I could see the 49ers as a legit option. San Diego could use him but I don't think its worth it for them Denver needs a reciever pretty badly and I think its a possibility Kansas City won't be spending anything on offense Oakland is a strong possibility, always looking for a big player and they have the picks from the Gruden trade Ravens need a reciever, and they obviously are willing to take on someone like TO so Moss isn't a huge leap Bengals are set at WR Steelers are set at WR Browns need offense badly, I don't think Romeo is going to go after it though New England doesn't fit with him Buffalo is a good fit for him, they have good wide recievers but would for sure like a better one. Jets are set at WR Miami won't go after him, I think they are happy with their recievers and just need a QB and RB to complement them Titans have a good corps Indianapolis doesn't need him Houston doesn't need him Jacksonville doesn't need him. So I could see him in New Orleans, New York, San Francisco, Denver, Oakland, Baltimore, Buffalo and maybe Cleveland |
VEL that was all tongue and cheek stuff about Bruschi, obviously he wouldn't be in a trade for Moss.
Icon great post, very accurate in my opinion too. |
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Good post tioe,
I disagree on a few. Bears could use him. SF would be more likely to go draft Buffalo has a top WR. Jax might want someone to replace Jimmy Smith. Denver has Lelie who looks good to replace Rod Smith. Cleveland - Crennel looks to be the new coach, I don't think he'd touch Moss. But this is also all w/o knowing cap situations... which changes a lot. I see Baltimore, New Orleans and Oakland (forgot about them) as the top 3 homes for him. I think he could be a great fit for the Jets but I don't think they have the cap room. |
Dorsett isnt a free agent. He's retired and in the Hall of fame.
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Giants need a WR bad. Just saying.
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Also regarding the Bears, they are probably going to be drafting a wide reciever this year. The top guys being Mike Williams and the guy from Michigan I think it is? If the Bears got Mike Williams then #1 WWE Fan might get some credibility next year, I'm not too familiar with the other guy.
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Braylon Edwards.
Beast... |
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Thats what the article said, I wouldn't think the Dolphins would still do that either.
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That and the new Phins coach is from the Belicheck mold, there also good friends. I wouldn't think he'd take on a moss. In contract or attitude.
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Moss to the Eagles for Trotter, Pinkston, and 3rd Round DP :shifty:
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although, the idea of two of the biggest WR Ego's in the league on the same team would be funny...
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They would seriously be unstoppable. Think of the running game :eek:
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Moss won't be traded.
The AP has a new article out, but if you read much you can see that most of what Duante is quoted as was taken slightly out of context. Moss now said in an interview with KFAN that he doesn't want to be traded, and this is the first time he spoke of the issue. I honestly don't think the Vikings have been seriously looking to trade him at any point. He probably wouldn't have even been fined for the mooning incident at Green Bay if Joe Buck didn't freak out. Quote:
"OMG Moss just PRETENDED to pull down his pants towards the Packers crowd...GET HIM OUT OF HERE NOW!" I don't think so. And finally, there is no deal out there that would offer the Vikings enough to go through with trading Moss. They will try to give you numbers from this year, but they coincidently don't emphasize that he missed games and played all of two snaps in some others due to injuries, nor do they mention that when he was healthy he was the obvious best reciever in the league. They don't need to get rid of him, he didn't hurt them when he was healthy, so unless something spectacular comes on the table I don't see him going anywhere. |
Never say never, moss has no say in it. If they want to move him, they will.
Last poster to say someone would never be delt, just on his opinion not stories - Dave Wadding about Randy Johnson. Now, while Dave was right on the timing (it didn't happen at the trade deadline) it did eventually happen. So, you may have just jinxed away your best WR. :D |
This is a media story right now, and not so much an actual story though. There is little evidence that they are even considering it as of right now.
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No one new about the Dillon deal till after it was done, now most teams aren't as "media silent" as the Pats, but maybe people are starting to learn. Also, I'm not saying he will be, I'm just saying we have little chance of actually knowing, just thinking we do. |
Well the reasons why they would trade him are quite obvious now, so of course I am not going to rule it out, but he doesn't have the "Trade me or else" sticker that TO did, so he would still demand a very hefty price tag and the Raiders definately don't have it. Maybe the Ravens or the Jets, but its unlikely they would be willing to give it up.
Vikings will trade Onterrio Smith for Charles Woodson |
He says he would like to play in Atlanta with Vick.. Don't know why? But I think he will end up in Baltimore.
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Interesting, Culpeper said Moss is his friend but he doesn't know how much more the Vikes will put up with.
The the Vikes can deal him for some top picks and then sign a FA like Burress it would be huge for the team. |
When has he ever said that he wants to go to Atlanta? He was quoted today...the first public comments since the loss to Philly...and what he said is that he wants to stay on the Vikings. Like VEL said, that doesn't mean he will for sure stay, but whoever told you that Atlanta thing was either completely lying or else taking something completely out of context. I am sure that Duante's comments to that AP reporter were not made in the light they come off in the article either.
Who would the Ravens trade for Moss? It would have to be one of their good defenders and a draft pick at least. It seems like they have a bunch of top guys that are really young, and I couldn't see them dealing a Suggs type guy. |
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Mike most MLB he runs holes and takes chances, last year he seemed to be off his game and even got knocked around a bit. That being said, could be a great fit to teach the younger players on the Vikes and still has some good year ahead of him. |
I just couldn't imagine the Ravens doing that, I would love to have him on the Vikes no doubt (Would prolly rather have Moss still), but he is still a good player and is really the face of their team. Who knows though, the NFL :p
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I dunno how anyone could think that a Lewis for Moss trade would be realistic. Lewis is a leader and a proven winner, Moss hasn't shown much of either of those.
If the Ravens trade Lewis then their defense takes a much bigger slide than the loss of his stats alone would imply. |
I agree. I don't think that Ray Lewis could do for the Vikings what he does for the Ravens, and likewise with Randy Moss. The name on TV today was Terrell Suggs, but he is so young it would surprise me. Who do the Jets have?
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As for the Raiders, yeah he could do tremendous things for their team, but what do the Raiders have to offer the Vikings? I don't think they have the defensive player that the Vikes are looking for.
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That being said, while some would say you don't trade the "face" of your team, that may make you feel warm, but it doesn't make good business sense. He's going to be 30 years old this year, had a great 2003 and good 2004. He's value is incredible right now and how no where to go but down. This is when you deal a guy, when they are worth they're most, yeah, he'll have some good years for another team, but if you can improve and get someone younger you do it. I'm not saying they will deal Lewis of Moss, it was an example of who they could deal. I think Dealing Suggs for Moss would be a bad deal, and to be honest, until Bollier steps it up or they get a new QB, I don't know how much a top 5 WR will help. I see Moss getting all pissy because Bollier doesn't get him the ball enough. |
The value of Moss is too high for any of the perspective teams to take. They either don't have what it takes to get him or else won't be willing to give it up. I think he will stay, they draft a good DB or LB, and sign whichever one they don't draft and they'll be just fine.
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If Moss doesn't "grow up" he will go do as one of the biggest wastes of potential. |
That is a laughable comment VEL. Him walking off the field offended the media more then it did his team. Before he did that he hadn't had any problems in like two years. And its not like walking off the field hurt the team, since the next week they upset the Packers at Lambeau. He isn't wasting his talent, he was playing at his highest ability until he got injured, and it showed because the Vikings were really good when he was healthy. To say that he is a waste of talent because of stupid off the field issues is just stupid.
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Someday maybe he'll grow up, some do, some don't (See: Terry Glenn). |
Would you say the same thing about TO though? The stuff he does isn't quite the same as Moss, but he's had some off field issues too.
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TO blew up at his offensive coordinator on national TV, talked shit against his team in the media all the time, repeatedly calls his old quarterback gay, demanded a trade, and has had various celebrations that have offended not only Joe Buck, but also other players and fans.
I like TO, but its not like Moss is some criminal compared to TO. He squirted a water bottle at a ref, big deal, I'm sure that didn't affect the outcome of that game. He was taken out of context saying "I play when I want to play". Thats bad but nothing worse then what TO did in his final years in SF. He pretended to pull his pants down as a touchdown celebration, that affects nobody. The two bad things that he did were walk off the field with two seconds left, which I personally accept his excuse, and drive down the street with some bitch traffic cop sitting on his hood. I don't think any of that has affected his onfield play as much as its getting credit for. |
BCWWF you write too much
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Well its obvious that you don't read into anybody elses opinions anyway, so why should I care if you dislike my posting style?
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Who said I disliked anything??
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I don't know, I just felt like acting like a dick.
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BCWWF your a fucking smart guy I'm just a lazy fuck who can't read because I'm from Philadelphia.. So that is why I'm a dick
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I thought you were VEL, sorry :hehe:
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I hope I'm not like VEL who makes everyone want to put a gun to their head when I post anything
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I :heart: VEL
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As for TO, you have a valid point, If you watch them though, TO seems to flip a switch when it's game time and be all about the team, I just haven't seen that from Moss yet, and no, I don't watch every Vikes game, and yeah "this didn't effect and this was taken out of context" thats one way to spin things.
I've never seen or heard of TO walking off the field, and I think there's a difference between being a media-hog and doing things detrimental to yourself/team (hitting someone with your car). So yeah, if I was an NFL GM right now, I'd take TO over Moss w/o blinking. Maybe he will and is changing, (see: Irving Fryar) Fryar was a complete mess in NE, while still putting up good numbers he was an off-field disasters, arrests, stabbed, etc.... then he "found god" and had a great 2nd half of his career. |
just listeining on the radio...
no words if he's on the block or not, but 3 teams are interested. Falcons - Need a WR for Vick. Raiders - Need a young WR and he's a perfect "Raider". Jets - I never thought about it, Pennington and Him are both from Marshall, did they play together or different years? |
YEAH TOGETHER. MOSS WANTS TO BE REUNITED WITH PENNINGTONNNNNNNNNNNN. IT'S OVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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nah, of course it would be a great move for the Jets, but at what cost? |
I dunno. They have like the most (or second most) cap room of any team in the NFL right now. Dunno who they'd give up though. :rantL
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Unless the Falcons could some how magically remove their cap space....we aren't getting Moss. But good God...that would just be unreal.
Maybe we can give the Vikings Price. God he sucks. He needs to be a #2 reciever the rest of his career. |
Thanks :D Or wait, were you talking to somebody else?
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HE IS GONE! :wavesad:
To the Raiders for Napolean Harris (some name like that), 1st and 5th round DPs. |
I am now a Raiders fan :( and WTF Harris blows nuts why wouldn't they have gotten Woodson and the picks. GOD I HATE THEM.
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Winfield and Woodson as starting corners would have been GOLD.
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instead they have Harris and an OLB and three FA linebackers :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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Waht the fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. Gay.
Stupid Jets were gonna trade John Abraham. :mad: |
yeah no one wants his gay my knee hurts attitude :roll:
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I bet the Vikings will be like... with the 7th pick overall we select a punter :roll:
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and Mike Tice will then be like, were not resigning Wiggins' cause im gonna come out of retirement play TE and coach the team.
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Someone kill me. A draft pick and Napoleon Harris. Who will we get in the draft. Mike Williams? Pac Man Jones? Nobody will be worth Moss. Nobody.
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maybe they will sign Burris now :( and maybe they will trade their other pick for a good player like Abraham or Woodson :shifty: or one can hope :'(
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Harris is young, that is all. Isn't Woodson kind of old now?
I think they should take out the second DP, add in one of the running backs... Moss and SOD for Harris, Woodson, 7th Overall DP |
Moss and their First rounder for Harris, Woodson, and their first sounds SO MUCH BETTER.
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who or what is SOD bcwwf?
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