Day of Reckoning 2...
 

http://cube.ign.com/objects/734/7349...?ui=gamefinder

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/spo...w_6121492.html

Yup. There won't be another wrestling game. :Shifty:

Not sure if I like the new submission system.

of course we all knew this would happen.....everyone said that Day of Reckoning was the best Gamecube wrestling game so far.....although looking at the other two being the Wrestlemanias that really didnt mean anything.

I like that Hogan and Warrior are gonna be in this one....actually I dont care for Warrior. My cousin does all I care about is Hogan.

We all knew it, but when I brought it up previously, even after it was announced there'd be news ca WM21, some folks scoffed. :p

I don't really care about having Hogan OR Warrior in the game, I just wish they'd expand the wrestling roster a little more. Still, I'd rather see Hogan than Warrior.

At least it'll be easiser to make Paul London if he's left out...

Also, I sounded negative on the new submission engine, when all I really am is unsure. I appreciate the idea of redefining it, making it more than just button mashing.

sounds like it'll be an interesting game to play. I grew tired of DoR already. The only thing I like about it are my extremely customized entrances

Is DoR a lasting game if you play it often with a buddy?

I hate button mashing games.

I still play it now, but when I am playig with someone else, it's almost as good as the day I bought it.

http://www.gamingring.com/~mike/THQS...05/wwedor2.wmv
http://www.gamingring.com/~mike/THQS...05/wwedor3.wmv

power point presentations on some info on the game lol.. they are a long watch, but if you want to know what they are doing with the game then watch.

So far i see no good updates, besides the obvious update of graphics, and them adding "several user choices" in story mode, it sure beats the 1 choice (going to smackdown or raw) in DOR 1 tho.

I hate to say it but it seems like besides a few updates here and there, this game will have nothing new.

another thing i dislike is the side view of the ring, why can't they stick with the back view? I hate the side view, it messes up when you are walking down the ramp to the stage, and i'd much rather look at the titantron rather than the crowd.

all of that aside, I will probably get this game a day earlier than it comes out -_-'

I got rid of DoR after like 2 weeks, bored the shit out of me, so limited.

Fignuts just creamed his pants.

Good lord Gohan, they've barley announced it, and we've got a long way to go. Quit it with the hatorade, ya heard?

Damn, 16 Mb powerpoint shows? These must be like 34257865498065 slides.

I still play it now and enjoy it greatly, so yeah.

The game is slated to have a few new items, but really, how much more did it need?

I'd prefer a little more effort be put into the camera angle system in the entrances. I also want them to get rid of the blood "cinematic", as it is very disruptive during gameplay and often costs me a special.

What i'd like is...

-Keep the Camera view behind the ring instead of the side
-Bring back swords and capes to CAW, otherwise leave it the same
-All of the exhibition options available on PS2 games (elimination especially)
-Create a Stable mode/Tag Entrances

For Story Mode
-Make it longer, it was waay to short
-Choose which roster is on which show, if they are face/heel, and enter in CPU controlled CAWs
-Able to play as a normal wrestler instead of a CAW
-The ability to lose a match and have it branch, isntead of forcing you to play till you win
-More choices that will make the game branch (a lot more)

May seem like a long list, but it really isn't asking much, especially since HCTP had everything on that list (minus capes and swords).

Barely any of it will make the game. I'm going to stay pessimistic about this game so that when I buy it, it will be better than i expected it to be.

Yeah, and to think they didn't get that after the last game. wassupwidat?

-Keep the Camera view behind the ring instead of the side

Not really a change, you're complaining about a new change.

-Bring back swords and capes to CAW, otherwise leave it the same]

Swords? GAY.

Bring back capes though, because they can actually have a place.

-All of the exhibition options available on PS2 games (elimination especially)

Meh. More match types will be included, though with our luck it'll be like 2.

-Create a Stable mode/Tag Entrances

Agreed, but that's a pretty fucking minor deal.

For Story Mode
-Make it longer, it was waay to short

Which they're doing.

-Choose which roster is on which show, if they are face/heel, and enter in CPU controlled CAWs

Again, nice, but minor deal.

-Able to play as a normal wrestler instead of a CAW

:y:

-The ability to lose a match and have it branch, isntead of forcing you to play till you win

Which may or may not be done.

-More choices that will make the game branch (a lot more)

Done

Minor changes, some of which is already being implemented. :|

Swords are not gay, I want to make Link, Crono.. and now Lloyd from Tales of Symphonia

I don't consider tag entrances a minor change, it's something I've wanted since WMX8 lol

and yeah, i said most wont be done, which implies some of them are being implemented, but i still worry that they will probably have like 8 options total to branch in the story.

They had sword and capes? :|

in WMXIX they did

you can make a cape in DOR, but it looks stupid and takes up all your gear points

who cares about a cape.

well anyway I checked out parts of both slide shows... I need more time and info before i cna make a definite decision.

GAY

Who the hell makes a FF7 character in a wrestling game?

gays.

Also, a lot of wrestling games in the past have included outfits for classic and foreign superstars, like jushin lyger and owen hart. But the recent crop of games only had half their outfits in the game. Seriously retarded. In day of reckoning, it wasn't so bad, because you had the stencil tool, but some of them took hours to make. If you're only going to put half og a guy's outfit in a game then forget it.

ROFL at the Carlito slide :D

Not to mention the inability to got near someone's crotch with acesories/logos unless you exploited a glitch.

LOL @ CARLITO CARRIBEAN FOOL

LOL, I read "the game enlists the help of Smackdown writers" and went :nono:

I still haven't played the 1st one

Apparently, they managed to stop flinging poo and picking fleas off each other long enough to help.

SNITSKKKKYYYYY.

can't find that list anywhere on ign.com

i went on their forums and they have the same list and ppl are saying i'ts fake, even though it has been posted on nodq and rajah

i don't think it's true... on the offchance that it is, i wish they wouldn't leave out hassan and carlito

"Break the masterlock mode"


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:shifty:

There's absolutley no reason why London and Hassan shouldn't be in there. London is a champ and Hassan is one of the biggest heels on Raw.

Heidy and Masters don't really matter...

And Carlito.... maybe they got stuck trying to program his afro. :shifty:

Any move he was dropped on his head in game the fro took all the impact so he became a bigger underseller than undertaker and was cut. :(

That list is fake. Ultimate warrior has already been confirmed as a legend by a major game magazine. (Forgot which one I read it in.)

last year sgt slaughter was confirmed by a major game magazine

plans change man... it seems nothing is final until IGN confirms it

THQ has said they're actually working on making the entrances more dynamic than ever before with more lifelike animations, and pyros that look even more real than DoR, plus they are adding a whole bunch of new camera angles. As far as the roster is concerned I hope they will expand the number of divas in the game to somewhere between 6-8, and hopefully they will get rid of the guys who are no longer with wwe, such as rhyno & storm for example, and why the hell would anyone want to play as cade or jindrak? Cade has had 2, yes [B]2[/B] whole matches since coming to wwe--his debut match on RAW, and he was involved in the Fatal-4-Way SUDDEN DEATH RULES tag team match for the World Tag Team Championship @ WM XX, when Booker and RVD retained the belts (before they were drafted to SD! shortly thereafter, personally I think both are getting the major screwjob just because one is from WCW (Booker) and RVD is from ECW, and we all know how VKM treats the guys from other organizations--RVD is actually pretty lucky to have had the IC title when he did. Anyway, Jindrak was also drafted to SD! but despite all his talent he hasn't gotten any kind of push at all. He's just a mid-carder on SD! (working only part-time there) and on Velocity, where nobody really cares about him. So sad :nono: :?: dumb@$$es.), and they do need some fresh young talent in the game however, CCC, now that would be "COOL" just to have him in there so you could beat his punk ***, and put in Snitsky and Heidenreich, London, even Hassan and Daivari, possibly Chris Masters might even be worth a shot. New people that haven't done much such as Kenzo Suzuki and his wife shouldn't be in tho, because they are not established enough to get any real recognition in a WWE game yet...maybe a year or 2 from now, but not yet.

Also as far as the Last Man Standing match goes, THQ needs to take a serious cue from the KO system in Fight Night Round 2. What I mean is in last man standing have it so that you have to get the bar from "K.O." to "Escape" before the ref counts to 10, or you lose. Simple as that and it would be fun and logical to do the match that way. And it might not be the popular thing to do but they should allow for the possibility of a Double K.O. just to keep it from getting TOO boring.

lol, will La Resistance EVER be in a WWE game?

No.

Best thing they could do is look at all the stuff that was in No Mercy but not in DoR and add it all in. Completely customisable matches and all that. More CAW stuff also. And why do they have womens clothing for men? Do a lot of people make cross dressing wrestlers?

I like the sound of this new submission system. It might be interesting to see Chris Benoit's sharpshooter only get treated like a finisher when it is used in "power mode". I haven't played Day of Reckoning, so I can only assume finishers are used when yo build-up a special meter. Having a full special meter would be an interesting way of affction submission moves. Benoit can use the sharpshooter, but when he uses it when he has a special, more options become available in the move.

Then you've got Chris Jericho. You could be required to use a special to enter the Walls of Jericho, but from there you can choose to use a "power" version (Liontamer) or allow one with more control (Boston Crab).

It would be nice to see submissions countered based on the wrestler taking the move, not the one locking it in. So if Ric Flair put a Figure Four on Batista, Batista could use a "power" counter to turn it around, using leg strength, which means it would be wise for a character using Ric Flair to soften up the legs of the Batista player, much like would happen on RAW if the two had a match. A smaller character like Shannon Moore would have to use stamina to try and battle to the ropes, or to try and turn the move on Flair (if they've got enough leg strength, or if Flair's stamina is low enough). This could make for some really deep matches.

One thing I really hope they do, is capture thebig match feel. In the SmackDown!games, if you want to have a Hell in a Cell Match, you just select it and away you go. I think this should be changed so big matches are only selectable once you've finished the game. During story mode you should come along challenges like Kane in an Inferno Match if you get into a heated rivarly with him, or a First Blood Match if you continuously attack a guy until he bleeds with a steel chair over a few weeks.

Hell in a Cell would only be used in the game when you're in a big match environment near the top of the card with a single-rival, or if the PPV needs a boost, and Elimination Chambers would be used if the main event scene is clustered.

This game could really be the one that changes the story mode of wrestling games. For some reason I can see this new submission/stamina system being used to define faces and heels. Heels traditionally control most of the match-up, so why not make it if you control the match, and regain stamina by putting your opponent in the chinlock, it puts the crowd slightly more behind your opponent. So it's easier to be a heel in some cases. Getting your ass kicked could have benefits too, because you could strike a pose to get the crowd into the match and regain some stamina (like Shawn Michaels does when he sets up for the Sweet Chin Music, etc.). And if you sell a lot of merchandise (as faces do), you could immediately become the top dog, and get some good deals going with the GM.

What I can really see being revolutionary, though, is that if you keep winning it might be nice if the lockerroom began to become unhappy with your "politics". It sort of mimics how Triple H never seems to step down, and gets a lot of animosity from some fans, and a lot of people backstage. Ruling with a iron fist (heel) would allow you to use your constant winning to keep guys on a leash, but if you remain the top face, you tend to find yourself roughed up a bit. This could be interesting if done right, because you can lose a few matches and be a face/heel and be respected backstage, or win too much, keep the title, but have a lot of guys start to hate you, whether your a face or a heel.

Normally in the GCN games, you have a special meter and an adrenaline meter. The higher your adrenaline/spirit, the easier you dcan do moves and the more you build up in your special meter. You ignote your special by pressing A+B, and while in this state, you can wail on people with specials (The A+B buttons again). While you could have a Sharpshooter as a regular AND a finishing move, your special will always be a bit more potent.

I don't know HOW this will translate to the new game really, but it COULD be cool.

HASSAN AND CARLITO CONFIRMED!!!!

:love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/spo...gc6_060805.asx

carlito's got his music too, i duno about hassan, i hope his is in tho

I was hoping for the roster to look like this:

1. Akio
2. Batista
3. Billy Kidman
4. Booker T
5. Bubba Ray Dudley
6. Carlito Carribean Cool
7. Charlie Haas
8. Chavo Guerrero
9. Chris Jericho
10. Chris Benoit
11. Christian
12. Danny Basham
13. Doug Basham
14. D-Von Dudley
15. Eddie Guerrero
16. Edge
17. Eugene
18. Funaki
19. Hardcore Holly
20. JBL
21. John Cena
22. Kane
23. Kenzo Suzuki
24. Kurt Angle
25. Mark Henry
26. Mark Jindrak
27. Marty Jannetty
28. Nunzio
29. Orlando Jordan
30. Paul London
31. Randy Orton
32. Rene Dupree
33. Rey Mysterio
34. Ric Flair
35. Rob Van Dam
36. Robert Conway
37. Rosey
38. Scotty 2 Hotty
39. Shannon Moore
40. Shawn Michaels
41. Shelton Benjamin
42. Simon Dean
43. Spike Dudley
44. Steven Richards
45. Tajiri
46. The Hurricane
47. The Big Show
48. The Undertaker
49. Triple H
50. Val Venis
51. Viscera
52. William Regal

1. Andre the Giant
2. Bret Hart
3. Bruno Sammartino
4. Hulk Hogan
5. Mick Foley
6. Steve Austin
7. The Ultimate Warrior
8. The Rock

1. Christy Hemme
2. Dawn Marie
3. Lillian Garcia
4. Lita
5. Stacy Keibler
6. Torrie Wilson
7. Trish Stratus
8. Victoria

NEW INFO FROM IGN

Here is the roster and match list, I've bolded the new additions

Official roster
Randy Orton
Triple H
Batista
Chris Jericho
Christian
Edge
Chris Benoit
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Eugene
Kane
Tajiri
Ric Flair
William Regal
Hurricane
Muhammad Hassan
Kurt Angle
John Cena
Undertaker
JBL
Carlito Caribbean Cool
Booker T
Rey Mysterio
Rob van Dam
Eddie Guerrero
Big Show
Heidenreich
Rene Dupree
Kenzo Suzuki
Chavo Guerrero
Orlando Jordan
Trish Stratus
Stacy Kiebler
Torrie Wilson
Gene Snitsky
Maven
Chris Masters
Paul London
Christy Hemme

Full list of legends isn't out yet, but they said ultimate warrior is pretty much confirmed.

Amazing list imo... we got Snitsky, Eugene, Paul London, Hassan, Carlito, and even Heidenreich. IGN is on crack cuz they said there are only 6 more.. but I count 17 new ones..

I did this myself, here is who they removed from DOR:

Removed Wreslters
Charlie Haas
Hardcore Holly
Rhyno
Doug Basham
Danny Basham
Mark Jindrak
The Rock (most likely will be a legend)
Val Venis
Garrison Cade
Matt Hardy
Lance Storm
Molly Holly
Victoria

I can say the only one I will miss is Matt Hardy, I'm glad they removed mostly people nobody ever used lol

Match types
Single
Tag Team
Triple Threat
Fatal 4 Way
Handicap
Royal Rumble
Hardcore
Ladder
Table
TLC
Steel Cage
Hell in a Cell
Last Man Standing
Bra and Panties
Ironman match

added last man standing.. that's it...

more news and media up at

http://cube.ign.com/articles/624/624...html?fromint=1

Why did they remove Vicky and give us Torrie?

who knows, they also changed the box art

old box art:

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx_assets/pr...ges/257337.jpg

new box art:

http://cubemedia.ign.com/cube/image/...0114935188.jpg

kurt <3

Here's some entrance videos

Rey Mysterio's Intro
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cube/...rio_wmvlow.wmv

Carlito Caribbean Cool's Intro
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cube/...ean_wmvlow.wmv

John Cena's Intro
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cube/...ena_wmvlow.wmv

Christian's Intro
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cube/...ian_wmvlow.wmv

Kurt Angle's Intro

http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cube/...gle_wmvlow.wmv

Muhammad Hassan's Intro
http://streamingmovies.ign.com/cube/...san_wmvlow.wmv

lol @ "place holder" for the video in some of them.. too bad christian's music isn't there yet hopefully they get the right one

they also announce hassan as holly in this playthrough LOL

And the problem with Stacy on the cover is....?

Wish that it was just her on the cover rather than Trips and the other person who's name escapes me.

lol how can you forget John Cena's name...

they replaced triple h with orton, i liked it better with orton

i love how stacey is on the cover, the pose and everything :love:

Is that Cena? I thought it was Orton. Ok...get rid of HHH and Cena. Keep Stacy and make it a full body shot. And by that I mean lots and lots of legs!

i'd rather she was in a thong

or naked.. wahtever

naked on a box cover for a video game :nono:

Not everyone's had the luxury of puberty, G3.

Pretty solid roster. Though Haas and Vicky coulda stayed.

Although I'm sure, they'd make it so all the necessary pieces are there to create them.

I might have to invest in this game... if the gameplay turns out to be any good.

1. Batista
2. Big Show
3. Booker T
4. Carlito Caribbean Cool
5. Chavo Guerrero
6. Chris Masters
7. Chris Jericho
8. Chris Benoit
9. Christian
10. Eddie Guerrero
11. Edge
12. Eugene
13. Gene Snitsky
14. Heidenreich
15. Hurricane
16. JBL
17. John Cena
18. Kane
19. Kenzo Suzuki
20. Kurt Angle
21. Maven
22. Muhammad Hassan
23. Orlando Jordan
24. Paul London
25. Randy Orton
26. Rene Dupree
27. Rey Mysterio
28. Ric Flair
29. Rob Van Dam
30. Shawn Michaels
31. Shelton Benjamin
32. Tajiri
33. Triple H
34. Undertaker
35. William Regal

Women:

1. Christy Hemme
2. Stacy Kiebler
3. Torrie Wilson
4. Trish Stratus

This roster stinks! They better enhance before it is released.

RAW:

1. Batista
2. Chris Benoit
3. Chris Jericho
4. Chris Masters
5. Christian
6. Edge
7. Eugene
8. Gene Snitsky
9. Hurricane
10. Kane
11. Maven
12. Muhammad Hassan
13. Randy Orton
14. Ric Flair
15. Shawn Michaels
16. Shelton Benjamin
17. Tajiri
18. Triple H
19. William Regal

Women:

1. Christy Hemme
2. Stacy Kiebler
3. Trish Stratus

SmackDown!:

1. Big Show
2. Booker T
3. Carlito Caribbean Cool
4. Chavo Guerrero
5. Eddie Guerrero
6. Heidenreich
7. JBL
8. John Cena
9. Kenzo Suzuki
10. Kurt Angle
11. Orlando Jordan
12. Paul London
13. Rene Dupree
14. Rey Mysterio
15. Rob van Dam
16. Undertaker

Women:

1. Torrie Wilson

so why did you feel the need to re-post the roster twice?

1. ?
2. did
3. feel
4. need
5. re-post
6. roster
7. so
8. the
9. the
10. to
11. twice
12. why
13. you

Gohan3k, your roster of words is lacking in starpower.

Wow. Way to be annoying.

yea dude

what the hell is it with you and posting rosters? You did this in the wrestling forum as well.

Obviously he has a roster fetish. Let him be. We all have our vices. Like Kurt Angle and his guttersluts.

lol roster fetish

man i posted so much info and nobody gave me any rep :rant:

Watched a couple of vid's yesterday, looks like it's shaping up to be an ok game.

:shifty: