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John la Rock 04-06-2005 05:27 PM

Big Show vs Akebono - worst Wrestlemania match of all time?
 
I'd say yes so fucking bad. How could anyone watch sumo?

Corndad 04-06-2005 05:30 PM

As bad as it was, the One with King Kong Bundy beating the guy in 37 seconds or something was worse, but the sumo was right there along side the Brawl for All thing they did with Bart Gunn against Butterbean

Disturbed316 04-06-2005 05:31 PM

It was a pretty good sumo match, I think the Japanese people were cuming in their pants over it, but to the Americans/everyone else, it was lame. There have been some worse Mania matches though. Eathquake vs Adam Bomb anyone?

Azriel 04-06-2005 05:47 PM

Probably number 10 on the worst list

LK 04-06-2005 05:49 PM

I'm sure that there have been worse

Anybody Thrilla 04-06-2005 05:59 PM

There was a worse match on that very card. Did you see Trish vs. Christy?

John la Rock 04-06-2005 06:05 PM

actually I thought that Trish vs Christy was better

Bad Company 04-06-2005 06:09 PM

LT v BBB was pretty crapola

PureHatred 04-06-2005 06:15 PM

Not only was Trish v Christy worse, I can think of at least three more that were clearly worse: Undertaker v Giant Gonzales, Brock v Goldberg, and Bam Bam v LT (as was mentioned.)

Also, since it was supposed to be the main event, I honestly htink Slaughter v Hogan is the worst WM match ever.

Gertner 04-06-2005 06:16 PM

Bam Bam vs Doink

tucsonspeed6 04-06-2005 06:19 PM

The sumo match was shoot, wasn't it?

KingofOldSchool 04-06-2005 06:22 PM

Since it wasn't a wrestling match, I'm not going to call it the worst Mania "match" of all time.

Cactus Sid 04-06-2005 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucsonspeed6
The sumo match was shoot, wasn't it?

Nope.

Cactus Sid 04-06-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureHatred
Brock v Goldberg,

Having seen it live, I can see it was the most fun match I have ever seen.....

That being Randy Savage vs Hulk Hogan in our section :cool:

Disturbed316 04-06-2005 06:24 PM

In fact, sumo wrestling is faker then professional wrestling. If you think Triple H's backstage stroke is bad, just wait till you hear some of the stories about what happens backstage at a sumo event :nono:

Ruien 04-06-2005 06:33 PM

Shoulda went best out of 3 like they usually are

Kane Knight 04-06-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
There was a worse match on that very card. Did you see Trish vs. Christy?

1) No I didn't, I used it for a piss break.

2) Hey, at least those two might give me a boner. The sumo match rendered me borderline impotent.

Kane Knight 04-06-2005 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disturbed316
In fact, sumo wrestling is faker then professional wrestling. If you think Triple H's backstage stroke is bad, just wait till you hear some of the stories about what happens backstage at a sumo event :nono:

L...M...A...O...

Fignuts 04-06-2005 06:59 PM

It wasn't really a match, as much as it was a side attraction. So it's kind of unfair to compare it to other piss breaks.

Fox 04-06-2005 07:03 PM

Bossman/Buchanan vs. D'Lo and Godfather at WrestleMania 2000 was worse.

Eunos 04-06-2005 07:18 PM

Well i definatly didnt need to see Big show in a Diaper thats for sure.

But i didnt mind it as much to be honest.

YokoBono's pretty fat. I can see him going the same way as poor old Yokozuna :(

M. Banana 04-06-2005 07:22 PM

Fox, u r dumb ass.

That match was good, but not the worst. That match had HOES!!!

Big Show vs. Akebone had ROLLS.

John la Rock 04-06-2005 07:24 PM

ya so the general feeling is that there has been worse matches. I have to admit that I only watched Wrestlemania 14 - on (other than classics like Hogan/Andre, Bret/Austin, etc)

Loose Cannon 04-06-2005 07:29 PM

Not the worst cause at least it got a crowd reaction.

A pretty terrible one was Adonis vs Elmer at 2. Elmer totally botched a slam when he picked up Adonis and then just fell to the ground after slamming Adonis down.

Pepsi Man 04-06-2005 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
Having seen it live, I can see it was the most fun match I have ever seen.....

That being Randy Savage vs Hulk Hogan in our section :cool:

Wait, there was a Savage there too? In the same section?

M. Banana 04-06-2005 07:50 PM

Who's Savage?

ColdwaVer 04-06-2005 07:52 PM

You know as a side note, did anybody notice how freakishly skinny Akebono's legs are???

Kane Knight 04-06-2005 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts
It wasn't really a match, as much as it was a side attraction. So it's kind of unfair to compare it to other piss breaks.

Lol

Kane Knight 04-06-2005 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiguelBahena
Fox, u r dumb ass.


M. Banana 04-06-2005 08:32 PM

On another side note,

Did anyone see those ROLLS around Ake's crotch? You could get lost up in that bitch.

V 04-06-2005 08:46 PM

akebono should be undisupted champion

V 04-06-2005 08:47 PM

of homosexuals

Hired Hitman 04-06-2005 09:09 PM

Best WM match of all time
 
Worst I have ever seen.

Jordan 04-06-2005 09:19 PM

It wasn't a wrestling match, it was Sumo, I was grossed out by the rolls, but I was actually really entertained by the whole thing.

PorkSoda 04-06-2005 09:24 PM

You can tell the match was preplanned because Akebono, I think, would beat Big Show in like 10 seconds. You can see that they were pushing each other but not really doing it. I kind of enjoyed it except I didn't like what they were wearing. (I think I should spend time with my hamster)

There's been worse at WM. :yes:

redoneja 04-06-2005 09:25 PM

The worst match of all time at Wrestlemaina was Demolition v Tenryu and some fat Jap at Wrestlemania VII. The match was right after Warrior v Savage(Career Match) so the crowd was exhausted and the match had no chemistry or psychology.

Jake Roberts v Andre the Giant at WM V was pretty bad too.

Kane Knight 04-06-2005 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gohan3k
of homosexuals

HEY

Kane Knight 04-06-2005 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X
It wasn't a wrestling match, it was Sumo, I was grossed out by the rolls, but I was actually really entertained by the whole thing.

I don't know. If I wanted to watch Sumo, I'd fucking watch sumo. This had incredibly limited appeal to a primarily western audience.

axel84 04-06-2005 11:47 PM

Anyone remember that 5 on 5 tag match that didn't happen?
 
Any of you guys remember back at 'Mania XX, there was supposed to be this big 5-on-5 match with Jeff Jarett, the Headshrinkers and two other guys, I think Repo Man, taking on 5 faces, which included Men on a Mission? I remember they showed the heels arguing who the captain of the team was going to be. And Vince, in one of the worst sugarcoating coverups probably in the history of his life, let alone his wrestling business was like

"It looks like we're not going to have our 5-on-5 match"

Lawler: "They can't decide who's gonna be captain!"

Fucking weak.

Aside from the worst Mania match that actually happened and wasn't scrapped last minute?.........My vote goes to the Panties matches and no I am not gay. Im just saying I can see it on Raw. They end in like 5 minutes. Sure we see some tail, but we can also see the same thing the next night. Why not fill up some time with an actual match?

King Jericho 04-07-2005 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Company
LT v BBB was pretty crapola


SuperSlim 04-07-2005 09:58 AM

that playboy tag team evening gown match from WM XX was utter and complete crap and a total waste of time. That has to be the worst match ever at a WrestleMania.

Fox 04-07-2005 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiguelBahena
Fox, u r dumb ass.

That match was good, but not the worst. That match had HOES!!!

Big Show vs. Akebone had ROLLS.

Whatever, that match was terrible. At least Show/Akebono didn't last long. I had to sit there and watch those four jerk offs wrestle for nearly 10 minutes.

Worst match ever.

Rain Man 04-07-2005 08:49 PM

Nah Goldberg vs. Lesnar was by far worse

John la Rock 04-07-2005 08:57 PM

Goldberg vs Lesnar was only bad because the crowd didn't care

Rain Man 04-07-2005 09:00 PM

True but it was very disappointing also, took about 20 minutes for the match to start (exagerrating) but you get the point

John la Rock 04-07-2005 09:07 PM

ya it wasn't good match but it wasn't the worst match either

SuperNinja 04-07-2005 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John la Rock
I'd say yes so fucking bad. How could anyone watch sumo?

Um, Japanese people watch sumo. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk, some people just have no respect for other cultures, it's so sad. :nono:

John la Rock 04-07-2005 11:49 PM

You know what I hate in this world ninjaboy:

People who are intolerent of other people's cultures....and the Japonese :shifty:

Kane Knight 04-08-2005 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNinja
Um, Japanese people watch sumo. Tsk, Tsk, Tsk, some people just have no respect for other cultures, it's so sad. :nono:

Did he say "Sumo fans are retards?"

"Sumo fans should die?"

"I hate sumo fans?"

No...He asked how anyone could watch it. That's not cultural intolerance.

Please, shut the fuck up with all this moronic "taking offense on everyone's behalf" shit.

Chuck Jones 04-09-2005 02:02 PM

Undertaker vs. Giant Gonzalez is probably the worst wrestlemania match I've ever seen.

Hitman84 04-09-2005 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axel84
Any of you guys remember back at 'Mania XX, there was supposed to be this big 5-on-5 match with Jeff Jarett, the Headshrinkers and two other guys, I think Repo Man, taking on 5 faces, which included Men on a Mission? I remember they showed the heels arguing who the captain of the team was going to be. And Vince, in one of the worst sugarcoating coverups probably in the history of his life, let alone his wrestling business was like

"It looks like we're not going to have our 5-on-5 match"

Lawler: "They can't decide who's gonna be captain!"

Fucking weak.

Aside from the worst Mania match that actually happened and wasn't scrapped last minute?.........My vote goes to the Panties matches and no I am not gay. Im just saying I can see it on Raw. They end in like 5 minutes. Sure we see some tail, but we can also see the same thing the next night. Why not fill up some time with an actual match?

Was WrestleMania X mate, not XX. Jarrett, Headshrinkers, IRS plus one other vs. 123 Kid, Bob Holly, Tatanka and the Smoking Gunns I think. Men on a Mission weren't going to be on either team as they faced the Quebecers for the Tag straps at WMX. Anyone knows if the Smoking Gunns were on the face team, or indeed who the one other was on the heel team, please let me know.

Re: the poll, I didn't see WMXXI so I can't comment on Akebono/Big Show, but Earthquake vs Adam Bomb at WMX was fried gold mate!

SuperNinja 04-09-2005 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=Hitman84] Anyone knows if the Smoking Gunns were on the face team, or indeed who the one other was on the heel team, please let me know.

The Gunns were face, and the other guy on the heel team was Rick Martel. The match was scrapped due to time constraints, but yeah, it was pretty retarded how they ditched it because "they coudn't decide on a captain", can't they come up with a better excuse?

MVP 04-09-2005 05:00 PM

Taker vs. Bossman come to anyone's mind?

redoneja 04-09-2005 05:01 PM

the 10-man tag did take place that thursday on a special edition of RAW.....the heel team won

Hitman84 04-09-2005 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperNinja
The Gunns were face, and the other guy on the heel team was Rick Martel. The match was scrapped due to time constraints, but yeah, it was pretty retarded how they ditched it because "they coudn't decide on a captain", can't they come up with a better excuse?

It would have been better to have just explained that due to time restraints, one match on the card wouldn't be taking place. At least the fans would have understood.

Besides, there was no build up to that match before WrestleMania X. People were looking forward to Bret vs Owen, Savage vs Crush and the two WWF title matches. Heck, there was more heat for Bam Bam/Luna vs Doink/Dink than there would have been for the 10-man tag.

vampiro03 04-09-2005 09:29 PM

brock threw the goldberg match. he did it to spit in vince's face! hell, brock called most of the match! he made the match horrable on purpose. does anyone HAVE the akibono vs big show match??? share please

tucsonspeed6 04-10-2005 12:24 PM

There must have been something worse at WM IX

TheBigShow 04-12-2005 12:44 AM

You guys are all idiots. I bet none of you have ever seen even 1 sumo match in your lives. Since you people are ignorant to what sumo is all about, of course you cannot appriciate it for what is was. And that was a great worked sumo match. It showcased Akebono's abilities very well, and it even put BigShow over by having him lift Akebono (lifting someone in sumo is extrememly rare and difficult, if any of you understood sumo you would have been going crazy when u saw that). Anyway, don't hate it just because you dont understand it.

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Kane Knight 04-12-2005 01:04 AM

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Kane Knight 04-12-2005 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigShow
You guys are all idiots. I bet none of you have ever seen even 1 sumo match in your lives. Since you people are ignorant to what sumo is all about, of course you cannot appriciate it for what is was. And that was a great worked sumo match. It showcased Akebono's abilities very well, and it even put BigShow over by having him lift Akebono (lifting someone in sumo is extrememly rare and difficult, if any of you understood sumo you would have been going crazy when u saw that). Anyway, don't hate it just because you dont understand it.

Woah woah woah woah...

I'm sorry, was I watching Sumomania 21?

Or was I watching a very Americanised pro wrestling show where this match stuck out like a sore thumb?

If you say the former, y ou deserve James' catch phrase.

If you say the latter, your argument is MOOT.

TheBigShow 04-12-2005 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Woah woah woah woah...

I'm sorry, was I watching Sumomania 21?

Or was I watching a very Americanised pro wrestling show where this match stuck out like a sore thumb?

If you say the former, y ou deserve James' catch phrase.

If you say the latter, your argument is MOOT.


In case you didnt realize it, werestlemania is shown in other countries besides the good ol' USA. It was a special feature match for those people who enjoy sumo. And wow that was very observant of you to say it stuck out like a sore thumb.... obviously it did, just like a ladder match sticks out amongst a whole bunch or regular matches. or how the brawl for all stuck out. Things that are different from the norm stick out.... WOW!!!

And my argument is not MOOT, anyone who paid for wrestlemania did so with full knowledge that there would be a featured sumo match. Its one thing to know what sumo is and be able to intelligently disect the match, but to just say "it sucked" without ever having seen sumo before is just ignorant.

Kane Knight 04-12-2005 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigShow
In case you didnt realize it, werestlemania is shown in other countries besides the good ol' USA.

OMG!

NO KIDDING!

SUM1 CALL CNN!

I never said it was only shown in the US. It's an Americanised wrestling production. Meaning that the style is not lucha libre, Japanese, Shootfighting, Sumo, whatever. It's as out of place as Shannon Moore challenging Dorothy Hamill to a figure skating contest. IT's out of place, it shouldn't be in wrestling, and so yes, it's a horrible match for a PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING SHOW.

Loose Cannon 04-12-2005 05:22 PM

Here we go :lol:

Loose Cannon 04-12-2005 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Woah woah woah woah...

I'm sorry, was I watching Sumomania 21?

:rofl:

TheBigShow 04-12-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
OMG!

NO KIDDING!

SUM1 CALL CNN!

I never said it was only shown in the US. It's an Americanised wrestling production. Meaning that the style is not lucha libre, Japanese, Shootfighting, Sumo, whatever. It's as out of place as Shannon Moore challenging Dorothy Hamill to a figure skating contest. IT's out of place, it shouldn't be in wrestling, and so yes, it's a horrible match for a PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING SHOW.

Its a special attraction. and the figure skating example is stupid. sumo is another form of hand to hand combat, and therefore is not a huge deviation from professional wrestling. I mean, they have battle royales where the idea is throw your opponent out of the ring (much like sumo... sound familiar?) Just because you see men in the ring wearing a different kind of underwear than you are used of seeing, you start to panic and say it sucks. I bet if they put the ropes back up and called it a battle royale you would all be saying how great it was. IGNORANT

Loose Cannon 04-12-2005 05:31 PM

We are wrestling fans, who want to see "wrestling" action on WRESTLEMANIA. Nobody on here gives a flying shit about Sumo. I don't care if you think it's great, it's not wrestling and it doesn't belong in wrestling. And please don't try and say Sumo and WWE are alike because they both have battle royals.

Yea and Christian is like AJ Styles cause they both wear hoods.

TheBigShow 04-12-2005 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
We are wrestling fans, who want to see "wrestling" action on WRESTLEMANIA. Nobody on here gives a flying shit about Sumo. I don't care if you think it's great, it's not wrestling and it doesn't belong in wrestling. And please don't try and say Sumo and WWE are alike because they both have battle royals.

Yea and Christian is like AJ Styles cause they both wear hoods.

You are a wrestling fan and thats fine, if you dont appriciate sumo that is fine too. Im not saying you have to like it, it is just ignorant to say the match sucked when you have no knowledge about sumo. To say sumo dosnt interest me is one thing, but to degrade a match (and a living legend like akebono) is just ludacrous.

vampiro03 04-12-2005 06:48 PM

anyone have it? im interested to see it. I watched yoko vs earthquake so, this is NOT the first sumo match in wwe. id be more interested if it wasn't fake. real sumo isn't fake but everyone keeps telling me the big show & akibono was fake. yoko and earthquake looked real to me.

Kane Knight 04-12-2005 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Yea and Christian is like AJ Styles cause they both wear hoods.

Well Duh. Everyone knows that.

Kane Knight 04-12-2005 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigShow
You are a wrestling fan and thats fine, if you dont appriciate sumo that is fine too. Im not saying you have to like it, it is just ignorant to say the match sucked when you have no knowledge about sumo. To say sumo dosnt interest me is one thing, but to degrade a match (and a living legend like akebono) is just ludacrous.

No, it's not ignorant to say that.

I'm actually not ignorant of sumo, I still think it was out of place and a bad match FOR WRESTLEMANIA.

I can't believe how fucking dense you are.

tucsonspeed6 04-12-2005 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigShow
another form of hand to hand combat, and therefore is not a huge deviation from professional wrestling.


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Kane Knight 04-12-2005 07:47 PM

Incidentally, there is a difference between like/hate, ignorant/knowledgable, and wanting to see it at Wrestlemania/Not wanting to.

Those are three different axiseseseses.

there are knowledgable people who hate sumo, and sumo fans who probably don't want to see Show involved.

Kane Knight 04-12-2005 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tucsonspeed6
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RGWhat316 04-12-2005 08:23 PM

As far as it being on a wrestling ppv, I would call a sumo match one of the worst. Plus it was real nasty to watch as well. I don't need to see Big Show is oversized diapers.


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