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Dave Youell 04-22-2005 03:23 AM

Pic of Brandon as Superman
 
http://aintitcool.com/images/br-sm.jpg

I don't like it, don't know why, just don't

Triple A 04-22-2005 04:47 AM

That looks terrible.

Sickboy 04-22-2005 05:39 AM

Indeed it does... :nono:

BlackDawn2024 04-22-2005 06:10 AM

Yeah. Saw that today. Absolutely horrible.

The shield is too small. The rest of his chest and torso is incredibly bare. I dislike the shield being on his belt, as well. It's a bit too much, especially if he has the gold shield on the back of the cape. And Brandon Routh looks NOTHING like Clark Kent/Superman/anything related to Superman or comic books in the least. He looks so shitty. He's not that big as well. He's kind of puny.

Well, I've said it before in the "Superman, great cast, expensive" topic, and I'll say it again, Bryan Singer is a fucking idiot.

He's got a horrible costume, bad cast(awful choices), horrid idea for a story, and once again, using one of the most over-used villains in history, Lex Luthor. Not to mention he's using John Williams score and Marlon Brando footage for Jor-El. Jesus, Singer, why don't you just steal something else from Richard Donner you self-important dickhead?

I'll be happy to sit back and laugh as everyone defends this piece of shit.

Nowhere Man 04-22-2005 07:10 AM

I wanted to be as optimistic as I could about this movie, since I'm a huge Superman nut. But come on! For crying out loud, Dean Cain looked more masculine as Superman than that garbage.

TheNamelessOne 04-22-2005 07:19 AM

I would have thought that they would have updated the Superman costume in some way, so it looks less gay, but maybe not.

Nowhere Man 04-22-2005 07:30 AM

Updating the Superman costume would make it look even worse. Did you ever see all that shit they tried doing in the 90's where Superman wore all black, or when they turned him completely blue? The only decent "revamped" look that didn't look like utter shit was when Stan Lee did a one-shot comic, but even then it hardly looked anything like him.

Hell, at this point I'm just glad Singer didn't change the outfit to another fucking leather jumpsuit.

Dave Youell 04-22-2005 07:37 AM

here's a bigger better pixel one:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/...994&fullsize=1

It's still doesn't make the costume look any better, the main thing i hate is the raised symbol on his chest, not sewn in like on the old one

Sickboy 04-22-2005 09:01 AM

But you gotta admit that the superman costume looks pretty silly no matter who wears it, and I'm not just talking about the updated costume. It's the same thing with the Phantom, he looks pretty good in comics, but stupid in flesh.

Disturbed316 04-22-2005 09:43 AM

That is horrible.

Danny Electric 04-22-2005 11:44 AM

Horrible indeed.
But no one blames Singer. I love that guy :(

Shaggy 04-22-2005 12:19 PM

looks like Superman turned gay

Gouda 04-22-2005 12:31 PM

Oh God no... Please no... I had such hopes for this movie.... well...not really... I had SOME hope. Now it is gone.

Fignuts 04-22-2005 12:42 PM

And how exactly would you have made the costume look good without changing it? You wouldn't, because his costume is gay, just like superman.

SuperSlim 04-22-2005 12:51 PM

that looks gay

Ninti the Mad 04-22-2005 01:31 PM

It's juat a costume.

You cant judge a movie on that. :wtf:

TheNamelessOne 04-22-2005 02:29 PM

I didn't mean a complete revamp, I mean making minor changes that make it look a lot better in a real life setting. At the moment it just looks retarded.

But im guessing that the Superman costume will always look gay regardless of any changes made to it.

BlackDawn2024 04-22-2005 03:41 PM

I blame Singer. I blame that douche for this piece of shit costume. He approved this awful crap, and it's his blame. And what's with the ripping on Superman's costume? It looks gay no matter what changes you make? He's lived with this iconic costume for over 60 years, why now the sudden dislike for it? I find that common among people now, finding costumes "silly".

And no, you can't judge a movie based on the costume. But the fact is, Bryan Singer is directing this. That I can judge something on. And on top of that, he finds costumes "silly", and will probably have Routh out of the costume as much as possible. He's a fucking idiot, who's had his ego blown up like a fucking baloon. I never had hopes for Superman Returns to begin with, but the more and more that comes out about it, the more and more I'm saying, "I'll stick with Smallville".

Waits for people to rip on Smallville.

Disturbed316 04-22-2005 04:19 PM

Nah, Smallville is the goods. They should have got Tom Welling to play Clark in the movie.

Nowhere Man 04-22-2005 04:40 PM

I love Smallville, but I can't see Tom Welling making the transition from the teenage-angst Dawson's Creek-esque version of Clark Kent to the clean-cut old school classic Superman. But maybe I'm just being too much of a comic geek for my own good here.

Disturbed316 04-22-2005 05:00 PM

Well for a large number of people, they wont acept anyone else as Superman, because to them it will always be Christopher Reeves. I'm one of them, but at least I can accept Welling as the younger Clark.

Funky Fly 04-22-2005 05:35 PM

The belt is gay and the symbol is too small. I still have hope for the movie, but Christopher Reeve, he ain't.

Champion of Europa 04-22-2005 05:39 PM

It looks painted on.

Ninti the Mad 04-22-2005 07:51 PM

lol I was just remembering Christopher Reeve.

I hope they make this guy clumsy as hell in this movie when he plays Clark.

That = Classic

YOUR Hero 04-22-2005 08:56 PM

The raised symbol is awful.

Fryza 04-22-2005 09:38 PM

Superman in general is awful.

That is just sad.

Kane Knight 04-22-2005 09:44 PM

Yuck.

mitchables 04-22-2005 10:00 PM

The only thing wrong with that costume is that the shield is a little small for my tastes. Other than that, I don't see a problem with it.

Gouda 04-22-2005 10:19 PM

I know this is going to sound really gay but....

I don't like the material it's made of. The fibres of it look stupid.

I wouldn't have a problem accepting someone other than Reeves as Superman but... the first thing you have to have is the costume. Personally I don't think ANY changes should be made to the costume.

Jaded-Dragon 04-23-2005 01:26 AM

I can't help but notice the low cut undies too. I guess they did change one thing, which is probably why it looks so gay. I'm not one to tell people to pull up their pants, but jesus christ.

BlackDawn2024 04-23-2005 05:28 PM

You know, the sad fact is, Warner Bros. are just too fucking stupid to realize that if you basically transfer everyone over that you need from Smallville(Welling, Rosenbaum, Durance, maybe Annette O' Toole and John Schneider), you have a built-in audience. You've got a huge amount of viewer potential. You've got the comic book fans(like myself), who are really enjoying how Al Gough & Miles Millar are putting little twists on things. But, maybe even more important, you've got the casual audience, who know Smallville is based on the Superman comics, but haven't read them, they just like the show.

Welling is great, he seems born to play this role. It's like it was made for him(with the exception of Chris Reeve, R.I.P.). Look at this...

http://www.net-connection-now.com/We...rman%20(1).jpg

And this...

http://www.net-connection-now.com/We...perman-tom.jpg


These were to two best looking manips I found on Google. Now doesn't Welling look a helluva lot more like Superman than Routh? As far as I'm concerned, Welling is the only guy out there right now that can pull the role off.

Although, Superman Returns has more problems than just a shitty costume and Superman choice.

Jaded-Dragon 04-24-2005 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDawn2024
You know, the sad fact is, Warner Bros. are just too fucking stupid to realize that if you basically transfer everyone over that you need from Smallville(Welling, Rosenbaum, Durance, maybe Annette O' Toole and John Schneider), you have a built-in audience. You've got a huge amount of viewer potential. You've got the comic book fans(like myself), who are really enjoying how Al Gough & Miles Millar are putting little twists on things. But, maybe even more important, you've got the casual audience, who know Smallville is based on the Superman comics, but haven't read them, they just like the show.

Welling is great, he seems born to play this role. It's like it was made for him(with the exception of Chris Reeve, R.I.P.). Look at this...

http://www.net-connection-now.com/We...rman%20(1).jpg

And this...

http://www.net-connection-now.com/We...perman-tom.jpg


These were to two best looking manips I found on Google. Now doesn't Welling look a helluva lot more like Superman than Routh? As far as I'm concerned, Welling is the only guy out there right now that can pull the role off.

Although, Superman Returns has more problems than just a shitty costume and Superman choice.

:yes: :y:

Fox 04-24-2005 10:46 PM

Superman is NOT A FUCKING KID. He's not supposed to be a cute 20 year old guy - he's supposed to be a MAN.

Tom Welling and Brandon Routh do not look like men - they look like models out of the recent edition of CosmoGIRL. Superman should look like a mature adult, not a cast member off The OC.

Gouda 04-24-2005 11:15 PM

In my opinion they should have waited until Smallville was over and then made a movie based on that. With all the actorsand everything.

It'd be interesting cause it'd be a different Superman story then the comics. (Since Smallville is radically different from his past in the comics).

Gouda 04-24-2005 11:49 PM

Yo, check this photoshop someone did. It woulda looked much better like he has it:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...lkSbSSmall.jpg

BlackDawn2024 04-26-2005 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox
Superman is NOT A FUCKING KID. He's not supposed to be a cute 20 year old guy - he's supposed to be a MAN.

Tom Welling and Brandon Routh do not look like men - they look like models out of the recent edition of CosmoGIRL. Superman should look like a mature adult, not a cast member off The OC.


Tom Welling is 26 years old(or 25, not sure), he's made to look young on the show. He's made to look like an 18 year old. Believe me, when Tom's not doing Smallville, he looks much older. He can do it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouda
Yo, check this photoshop someone did. It woulda looked much better like he has it:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...lkSbSSmall.jpg

Well, not really. Still need to take the shield off of the belt, raise the boots, and get rid of the hip-huggers. Also, you can polish this turd all you want in photoshop, but it still doesn't change the fact that Routh is awful for Superman. Terrible.

Superman Returns is headed for distaster, and I'm loving it.

Ninti the Mad 04-26-2005 12:48 PM

OMG THE COSTUME DETERMINES IF THE MOVIE WILL SUK LOL!

Gouda 04-26-2005 01:04 PM

You know what... if you look at it for awhile you get kinda used to it. It isn't SO bad considering it could have been much worse. Red could still be a little brighter though.

Maybe he's going for a retro look. Superman's original design had the S shield very small too.

And why in the world are you loving the movie going to disaster? I'd love it if it DIDN'T go to disaster. I'd hate it if it did.

Nevertheless.... I'll still probably be one of the first in line to see this movie. After that I can criticize all I want.

Lamuella 04-26-2005 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninti the Mad
OMG THE COSTUME DETERMINES IF THE MOVIE WILL SUK LOL!

It can add a lot and take a lot away. One of the biggest sucky elements of Batman And Robin were the Rubber Nipples Suits.

Ninti the Mad 04-26-2005 02:03 PM

I can understand Robin but I think it fit Batman's character just fine.

I can see people complainin if they're looking for nostalgia value but that guy up there who is using this to hope for the demise of the movie is ridiculous.

In the end, all that counts is how well they pull off the story/acting.

Batman and Robin was just a sorry excuse of a movie.

BlackDawn2024 04-26-2005 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouda
And why in the world are you loving the movie going to disaster? I'd love it if it DIDN'T go to disaster. I'd hate it if it did.

Why? Because I'm sick and tired of people shoving Bryan Singer's cock down their mouth and praising him when he makes dull movies like X-Men and X2. They are both dull and boring, if you ask me. They have their moments, but it's real hit and miss for me.

I want it to fail so bad because then people will realize how shitty and overrated Bryan Singer is. I could go all night about Peter Jackson and Quenton Tarantino's balls being licked dry by critics, but I won't.

The pure fact is, yes, I'll see Superman Returns. But I have zero expectations for it. Maybe that's a good thing, maybe it isn't. But when it sucks ass, I'll be laughing.

Kane Knight 04-26-2005 05:46 PM

Oh, come on. Tarantino is GOD!

:shifty:

Gouda 04-26-2005 05:49 PM

I thought X2 was decent. Didn't really care much for the first X-Men movie though.

mitchables 04-26-2005 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamuella
It can add a lot and take a lot away. One of the biggest sucky elements of Batman And Robin were the Rubber Nipples Suits.

Wow, they hid nipple suits? I'm sorry, I must have been too busy focusing on the TERRIBLE ACTING AND STORY. But obviously the fact that their costumes had nipples on them was far more detrimental to the overall quality of the movie.

I agree with Ninti on this one, I think you'll find the success of the movie will be more heavily weighted on the overall product, as opposed to the fact that his cape his a dullish red.

PoisonIvy 04-26-2005 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox
Superman is NOT A FUCKING KID. He's not supposed to be a cute 20 year old guy - he's supposed to be a MAN.

Tom Welling and Brandon Routh do not look like men - they look like models out of the recent edition of CosmoGIRL. Superman should look like a mature adult, not a cast member off The OC.

Tom Welling is 28 years old, two years older than Christopher Reeve was when he debuted as Superman.

Fox 04-27-2005 12:41 AM

But Reeve looked like a man - if that makes sense. Routh looks like a pussy.

PoisonIvy 04-27-2005 09:14 PM

Routh does look ridiculous, but I was talking about Tom Welling and the fact that if you see him off camera, he looks very much like a grown man.

BlackDawn2024 04-28-2005 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Oh, come on. Tarantino is GOD!

:shifty:

Damn it, I can never tell when you're joking and when you're not. I'll just say this...

Tarantino Sucks Balls.

:foc: Tarantino!

Kalyx triaD 04-28-2005 06:07 PM

Ummm.....

'S' symbol's... a different take...

Darker colors... Contrary to the character's mythos...

The new kid... Give him a chance, like Hugh Jackman...

'S' on the belt... Stop bitching, it ain't that bad. A certain superhero has a bat symbol on everything he owns.

When I heard about the X-Men going black, and Spider-Man's sculpted web design, I freaked, but I got over it.

Costume designers don't make the movie...

BlackDawn2024 04-29-2005 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD
Ummm.....

'S' symbol's... a different take...

Darker colors... Contrary to the character's mythos...

The new kid... Give him a chance, like Hugh Jackman...

'S' on the belt... Stop bitching, it ain't that bad. A certain superhero has a bat symbol on everything he owns.

When I heard about the X-Men going black, and Spider-Man's sculpted web design, I freaked, but I got over it.

Costume designers don't make the movie...


Yes. It is a different take, but there's no need to make it that small. Making it that small to me seems like your changing it just to change something. It's a symbol, it's supposed to mean something. Making it so small diminishes the point of him having the shield at all.

I don't have anything personal against Brandon Routh. He may be a good actor, he may not. But the cold, hard fact is he doesn't look like Superman.

Darker colors doesn't work for Superman. It may work for Batman, but not for Superman. He's supposed to have bright colors so people can trust him. If he has dark colors, it makes him seem forboding, which he is not.

The shield on the belt is awful. It's redundant. And I will agree that Batman does have way too many bats hanging around. Especially in the books now.

No, the costume designer doesn't make the film. But a director who would approve a shitty costume like this is making the film.


Overall, I am hating Superman Returns more and more.

Ninti the Mad 04-29-2005 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackDawn2024
Yes. It is a different take, but there's no need to make it that small. Making it that small to me seems like your changing it just to change something. It's a symbol, it's supposed to mean something. Making it so small diminishes the point of him having the shield at all.

I don't have anything personal against Brandon Routh. He may be a good actor, he may not. But the cold, hard fact is he doesn't look like Superman.

Darker colors doesn't work for Superman. It may work for Batman, but not for Superman. He's supposed to have bright colors so people can trust him. If he has dark colors, it makes him seem forboding, which he is not.

The shield on the belt is awful. It's redundant. And I will agree that Batman does have way too many bats hanging around. Especially in the books now.

No, the costume designer doesn't make the film. But a director who would approve a shitty costume like this is making the film.


Overall, I am hating Superman Returns more and more.


You have to be the biggest idiot alive.

BlackDawn2024 05-01-2005 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninti the Mad
You have to be the biggest idiot alive.

Alright. Why? Because I'm stating my opinion?

Ninti the Mad 05-01-2005 01:25 AM

No, because you are hating the movie because his costume doesnt give you a hard-on.

YOUR Hero 05-01-2005 01:04 PM

My opinion of BlackDawn2024's opinion isn't very high. All that typing doesn't matter after he stated X-2 was dull. Once you said that, your credibility went way down.

BlackDawn2024 05-02-2005 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
My opinion of BlackDawn2024's opinion isn't very high. All that typing doesn't matter after he stated X-2 was dull. Once you said that, your credibility went way down.

It is dull. Very dull, in fact. It has it's moments. Nightcrawler is done well(but Alan Cummings rocks anyway), and the raid on the school is awesome. But overall, X2(and the first as well) is just very boring. It may be that I've never been the biggest X-Men fan in the first place.

And I'm not hating this movie because the costume doesn't give me a hard on(whatever that's supposed to mean :wtf: ), I'm hating it because of the awful direction it's taking. The whole idea is flawed and ridiculous. The movie has nothing original about it. I know it's using Superman II continuity, but that's just stupid.

So, then you're just ripping other people off, right Bryan? Instead of doing something original and fresh, you'll just take the easy way out? Figures from a hack like you.

BlackDawn2024 05-02-2005 07:31 AM

One other thing. This isn't related to Superman or comics at all, but I'm not making an entirely new topic about it. I mentioned Peter Jackson earlier, whom I also despise.

It just kills me that people can remake a movie, and get bitched at for tampering with the original film, yet Peter Jackson can remake King Kong and tha'ts fine. If we're not careful, we'll blow Jackson's ego up bigger than Tarantino and Kevin Smith's combined(if possible). And this is all because people can't take their lips off of Jackson's ass to realize that Lord Of The Rings is overrated.

:foc: Peter Jackson!!

:foc: Quenton Tarantino!!

:foc: Bryan Singer!!


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