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Ninti the Mad 04-22-2005 08:51 PM

The NBA PlayOffs
 
All I can say is FINALLY.

This is going to be intense. Naturally, I am going for the Spurs but I especially love the Houston/Dallas match up. Texas represent.

Also, I want to see the Nets get whooped on by Miami.

Fuck Vince Carter.

What match ups are you guys looking forward to the most?

DaveWadding 04-22-2005 09:03 PM

A bracket in case someone wants to do predictions.


EASTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Miami
(8) New Jersey


(4) Chicago
(5) Washington


(3) Boston
(6) Indiana


(2) Detroit
(7) Philadelphia


WESTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Phoenix
(8) Memphis


(4) Dallas
(5) Houston


(3) Seattle
(6) Sacramento


(2) San Antonio
(7) Denver

The Icon of Elisim 04-22-2005 09:03 PM

As far as first round match ups I think San Antonio-Denver will be the best.

Definetly wanna see the Nets blow up. I'm hoping for blowout wins for Miami in games 1 and 2. Then Vince blames Kidd in the post game press conference. Kidd refuses to pass to Carter in game 3 which they get blown out in again. Carter fakes an injury in the first 5 minutes of game 4, Nets win 3 straight. Carter comes back in game 7 and the Nets lose.

The Icon of Elisim 04-22-2005 09:04 PM

Final prediction for me is Phoenix over Detroit in the finals

packt up 04-22-2005 09:05 PM

Lakers vs the summer break

nah seriously any of the West lineups look great particularly Houston/Dallas as you said.

Ninti the Mad 04-22-2005 09:09 PM

How can you pick Phoenix? :'(

Sure, they have the best record but the Spurs won the season series against Phoenix.

DaveWadding 04-22-2005 09:10 PM

EASTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Miami over (8) NJ 4-1
(5) Washington over (4) Chicago 4-2

(1) Miami over (5) Washington 4-1


(6) Indiana over (3) Boston 4-2
(2) Detroit over (7) Philly 4-3

(1) Miami over (2) Detroit 4-3

WESTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Phoenix over (8) Memphis 4-0
(5) Houston over (4) Dallas 4-2

(1) Phoenix over (5) Houston 4-1


(6) Sacramento over (3) Seattle 4-3
(2) San Antonio over (7) Denver 4-3

(2) San Antonio over Sacramento 4-1

(1) Phoenix over (2) San Antonio 4-3

FINALS

Phoenix over Miami 4-3

Crimson 04-22-2005 09:18 PM

Houston/Dallas the best match up probably. I will pick Dallas. I like the Kings/Sonics too i hope seattle wins but sactown's playoff experience will probably push them over.

Ninti the Mad 04-22-2005 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding
EASTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Miami over (8) NJ 4-1
(5) Washington over (4) Chicago 4-2

(1) Miami over (5) Washington 4-1


(6) Indiana over (3) Boston 4-2
(2) Detroit over (7) Philly 4-3

(1) Miami over (2) Detroit 4-3

WESTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Phoenix over (8) Memphis 4-0
(5) Houston over (4) Dallas 4-2

(1) Phoenix over (5) Houston 4-1


(6) Sacramento over (3) Seattle 4-3
(2) San Antonio over (7) Denver 4-3

(2) San Antonio over Sacramento 4-1

(1) Phoenix over (2) San Antonio 4-3

FINALS

Phoenix over Miami 4-3


Keep dreaming, Phoenix boy. :mad:

DaveWadding 04-22-2005 09:45 PM

I think I will :cool:

Y2Ant 04-22-2005 09:47 PM

I need a basketball team to root for :(

PureHatred 04-22-2005 09:51 PM

I'm looking forward to the Nugs/Spurs match-up(if TD is even slightly hurting, the Nugs could pull that out) and the Mavs/Rockets match-up.

Ruien 04-22-2005 09:52 PM

(1) Miami (8) New Jersey - 3 - 4


(4) Chicago - (5) Washington 4 - 2


(3) Boston - (6) Indiana 2 - 4


(2) Detroit - (7) Philadelphia 4 - 0


WESTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Phoenix - (8) Memphis 4 - 1


(4) Dallas - (5) Houston 4 - 1


(3) Seattle - (6) Sacramento 4 - 2


(2) San Antonio - (7) Denver 4 - 3

Now thats the way its going to go. Baby Bulls!!!!!!!!!!!!

DaveWadding 04-22-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y2Ant
I need a basketball team to root for :(

Root for the Suns cause our main color is purple :cool:

Ruien 04-22-2005 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding
Root for the Suns cause our main color is purple :cool:

Acually root for the Raptors. They need a fan and their color is purple.

Gonzo 04-22-2005 11:42 PM

Go Boston. Celtics to the ship whaa.

Nah but my pick is either the Heat or the Spurs.

I hope the Celtics go deep though.

SammyG 04-23-2005 12:05 AM

Go lakers

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 01:31 AM

I think New Jersey is going to beat the Clips in 7 for the nba title

RP 04-23-2005 01:38 AM

1st round:


Eastern Conference.


Newjersey over Miami 4-2


Washington over Chicago 4-0


Indiana over Boston 4-2

Detroit over Philly 4-3

Second round :

New Jersey over Washington 4-1

Indiana over Detroit 4-3

Eastern Champion Ship :

Indiana over New Jersey : 4-3


Western Conference:

1st Round:

Pheonix over Memphis 4-1

Dallas over Houston 4-3

Sacramento over Seattle 4-2

Denver over San Antonio 4-2

2nd Round:

Dallas over Pheonix 4-3 ( Dallas plays some defense now.)

Denver over Sacramento 4-2

Western Conference Championship

Dallas over Denver 4-3


NBA Champion ship :

Dallas over Indiana 4-3



( I am a Indiana pacer fan ( being from indiana) but i honestly think my team has a chance and i honestly think this is how the playoffs will unfold. I do believe Dallas will win the title. Imo.)

DaveWadding 04-23-2005 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
1st round:


Eastern Conference.


Newjersey over Miami 4-2


Washington over Chicago 4-0


Indiana over Boston 4-2

Detroit over Philly 4-3

Second round :

Miami over Washington 4-1

Indiana over Detroit 4-3

Eastern Champion Ship :

Indiana over Miami : 4-3


Explain this to me, you braindead cockmonkey.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 01:50 AM

You are a fucking idiot bitch, Rectal Pertruder

RP 04-23-2005 01:58 AM

You'll see.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 02:02 AM

shut the fuck up shut the fuck up SHUT THE FUCK UP. you are terrible

RP 04-23-2005 02:13 AM

You try way to hard to be funny. Like you wanna feel special by flaming somebody, but you picked the most inopertuned time to do it. Sad honestly. Just scram.

RP 04-23-2005 02:16 AM

Yah thats right. Keep bad repping me for my picks. You'll love me when its over and i'm right bitches.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 02:16 AM

yeah telling you to shut the fuck up is real funny, I tried to be subtle, I just didn't want to make a scene...


SHUT THE FUCKING EVER FUCK UP!!!!!!!!

RoXer 04-23-2005 02:27 AM

(1) Miami
(8) New Jersey
Miami

(4) Chicago
(5) Washington
hmmmm, Chicago

(3) Boston
(6) Indiana
BosFUCK THIS

(2) Detroit
(7) Philadelphia
SDCASD
FQE
WESTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Phoenix
(8) Memphis
PHOENIX

(4) Dallas
(5) Houston
frgewrgt

(3) Seattle
(6) Sacramento
sdfvsdfv

(2) San Antonio
(7) Denver
sdfvsdfvdfsv


Don't wanna do predictions except for Suns.

PureHatred 04-23-2005 03:09 AM

EASTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Miami
(8) New Jersey
This will go seven, but mainly because Shaq is hobbled. Also, because nothing he's done in the last few month has shwon that VC is anything but a little bitch who will quit at the first sign of presure.

(4) Chicago
(5) Washington
Washington. w/Curry and Deng, I'd take the Bulls. But they have no size now and Hughes and Arenas shut people down defensively.

(3) Boston
(6) Indiana
Boston. O'Neal isn't healthy and w/o Artest they have no one who can stop Pierce and Davis. This goes 7, Pierce averages like 28 a game, and the C's advance

(2) Detroit
(7) Philadelphia
Detroit. My only comment is this: CWebb is a fag.

WESTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Phoenix
(8) Memphis
Suns. not really close either, unless Mike Miller goes on one of those tears like Chuck Person in '91.

(4) Dallas
(5) Houston
The Mavs are more athletic and physical than they were last year. Plus, they have an angry, 7" tall German guy who can score from anywhere on the floor. Anywhere. That helps...I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Mavs win it all this year.

(3) Seattle
(6) Sacramento
Seattle. I love Mike Bibby, but he doesn't have enough to drag the rest of these idiots into the second round. Doesn't matter though, because whoever advance gets swept in Round 2.

(2) San Antonio
(7) Denver
This has 'upset' written all over it. TD is gimpy, the Spurs traded or released a lot of the guys who did the dirty work down low, the Nugs can throw 4 quality big men at Duncan, Carmelo can post Bowen up at will, the Spurs are a little soft (OK..actually its just Tony Parker that's soft) and Andre miller has been lights out in the second half.

Two of these games are going to come down to "who makes the last shot?" If Melo steps up and shows that hes not just a scorer but an actual NBA suoerstar- and stars come through in the clutch- then the Nugs win this series and the Spurs have t seriously reevaluate this team's future.

My guess: Nugs in six.

roach21 04-23-2005 09:00 AM

The Lakers are gonna win the whole damn thing cause Kobe doesn't need that lard ass Shaq. :shifty:

roach21 04-23-2005 09:01 AM

Oh shit the Lakers aren't in the playoffs? Pistons over the Spurs in 6 baby!!!!!!

packt up 04-23-2005 10:23 AM

EAST

Miami 4-1 NJ
Chicago 4-2 Washington
Boston 3-4 Indiana
Detroit 4-0 Philly

Miami 4-1 Chicago
Detroit 4-2 Boston

Detroit 4-3 Miami

WEST

Phoenix 4-0 Memphis
Dallas 4-2 Houston
Sacramento 4-2 Seattle
San Antonio 4-3 Denver

Phoenix 4-3 Dallas
San Antonio 4-1 Seattle

Phoenix 4-1 San Antonio

FINALS

Detroit 4-2 Phoenix

Ninti the Mad 04-23-2005 12:55 PM

I love how people view the Spurs as the underdog.

It might bite ya.

The Icon of Elisim 04-23-2005 09:46 PM

They aren't the underdog but you have to admit that the Nuggets match up great against them especially if Duncan is injured

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 11:15 PM

wow Rectal, Indiana sure tore it up ehh?

Ruien 04-23-2005 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninti the Mad
I love how people view the Spurs as the underdog.

It might bite ya.


It is just everyone that jumped on the Nuggets bandwagon.

loopydate 04-24-2005 12:05 AM

Did anybody see the sign in the crowd at the Palace this afternoon that said:

Ben? Rasheed? Prince? Rip? Billups?
Too Many Questions For Just One Answer

Pretty much sums up this four-game series right there. The Sixers looked good in the first, but that Detroit defense is just too damned good. I really don't think anyone, except maybe the Spurs, can take the O'Brien Trophy from them this year.

Crazy88s 04-24-2005 12:29 AM

Spurs with a hobbling Timmy are better than the majority of the teams out there. Yeah Spurs and Denver will be a good matchup but Melo and Nene will be magicians and show off their disappearing act in the playoffs. Dallas will win in 6. Seattle will probably sweep the fully stocked but shooting blanks Kings. Phoenix will lose one game to Memphis but it will be horrible and all the Grizzlies will have to be shooting lights out. I give them one, but thats stretching it. Spurs are tough and are just playing possum, Manu and TP are awesome together and Glenn Robinson is coming more and more into his own here. Nazzy is also doing what he needs to and everyone in San Antonio will take and AILING Mohammed with 10 points than a healthy Malik Rose giving us 3 points. Spurs are gonna do it. East will be close in the EAST, once it gets to the Finals they have no chance. Not even Detroit or Miami.

loopydate 04-24-2005 12:40 AM

Also, I was just thinking about when Rasheed Wallace talked about how "We're the champs until somebody beats us" in reference to the World Heavyweight Title belts he bought for all of his teammates. Well, I got to thinking, what if the NBA Title was defended like wrestling titles? Well, I'm a dork, so here's this year's NBA Title History:

#1 Detroit Pistons - Defeated L.A. Lakers - 2004 NBA Finals
#2 Toronto Raptors - Beat Pistons 101-89 - 11/5/04
#3 Sacramento Kings - Beat Raptors 108-92 - 11/9/04
#4 Seattle Sonics - Beat Kings 108-78 - 11/10/04
#5 Boston Celtics - Beat Sonics 102-83 - 11/21/04
#6 Indiana Pacers - Beat Celtics 106-96 - 11/23/04
#7 Seattle Sonics (2) - Beat Pacers 103-95 - 11/28/04
#8 Portland Blazers - Beat Sonics 100-94 - 11/30/04
#9 Seattle Sonics (3) - Beat Blazers 99-89 - 12/4/04
#10 Boston Celtics (2) - Beat Sonics 98-84 - 12/11/04
#11 Denver Nuggets - Beat Celtics 100-99 - 12/15/04
#12 Miami Heat - Beat Nuggets 107-100 - 12/17/04
#13 Seattle Sonics (4) - Beat Heat 108-98 - 1/9/05
#14 Los Angeles Clippers - Beat Sonics 103-92 - 1/12/05
#15 Sacramento Kings (2) - Beat Clippers 99-95 - 1/15/05
#16 - San Antonio Spurs - Beat Kings 103-73 - 1/23/05
#17 - Portland Blazers (2) - Beat Spurs 107-99 - 1/24/05
#18 - Dallas Mavericks - Beat Blazers 95-88 - 1/26/05
#19 - Philadelphia 76ers - Beat Mavericks 93-89 - 1/29/05
#20 - Houston Rockets - Beat Sixers 118-95 - 2/2/05
#21 - Seattle Sonics (5) - Beat Rockets 87-85 - 2/22/05
#22 - Milwaukee Bucks - Beat Sonics 99-73 - 2/27/05
#23 - Philadelphia 76ers (2) - Beat Bucks 118-111 - 3/1/05
#24 - New Jersey Nets - Beat Sixers 99-93 - 3/2/05
#25 - Miami Heat (2) - Beat Nets 106-90 - 3/3/05
#26 - Houston Rockets (2) - Beat Heat 84-82 - 3/22/05
#27 - San Antonio Spurs (2) - Beat Rockets 83-70 - 3/27/05
#28 - Denver Nuggets (2) - Beat Spurs 102-84 - 4/1/05
#29 - Houston Rockets (3) - Beat Nuggets 115-87 - 4/16/05

I know that doesn't prove anything except that I have way too much time on my hands.

But it's odd to think of the Houston Rockets as the defending NBA Champions. It's also weird to think of the Sonics as the Triple H of the NBA.

loopydate 04-24-2005 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy88s
East will be close in the EAST, once it gets to the Finals they have no chance. Not even Detroit or Miami.

That's what everyone said last year. And this year's Pistons are better than last year's.

jindrak 04-24-2005 12:57 AM

EASTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Miami
(8) New Jersey
I think NJ will take the series in a shocking surprise to everyone who predicted the Heat. The Nets have won 15 of 18 and with RJ in the lineup, the team is much improved.


(4) Chicago
(5) Washington
Chicago, only because I like this young blood talent line-up and its good to see a former perennial playoff team back in the mix. I just wish the Knicks would take notes from the Bulls on how to rebuild a franchise.


(3) Boston
(6) Indiana
Boston. I think the combo of Walker and Pierce will step up in the playoffs, but will "most likely" get eliminated in the next round.


(2) Detroit
(7) Philadelphia
Detroit. Philly has not clicked all season, and I doubt they will now.


WESTERN CONFERENCE

(1) Phoenix
(8) Memphis
PHX.


(4) Dallas
(5) Houston
Houston because the Rockets are on a hot streak.


(3) Seattle
(6) Sacramento
Toss-up. I'm going with Sac though because they have the experience.


(2) San Antonio
(7) Denver
A healthy Tim Duncan will take the Spurs to the Conference finals at the very least.

Crazy88s 04-24-2005 02:31 AM

I don't deny the Pistons are a good team and they are the closest thing in the east that even compares to a team in the west, but the west is stacked with teams with all kinds of chemistry. The Pistons are good, I just don't think they are as great as last year. Last year they were scary. This year i can only compare them to the Trailblazers when they had all the talent and just teased us on getting to the championship. Good team, just not great. Pistons against anyone in the west, will lose in 6. If its the Spurs or I sure hope its not Phoenix, it will only go five.

PureHatred 04-24-2005 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate
That's what everyone said last year. And this year's Pistons are better than last year's.

The West isn't as dominant as it has been in recent years, Crazy88s.

And any team that returns all five starters from the team that just won the NBA title is, by definition, a great team.

Ruien 04-24-2005 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy88s
I don't deny the Pistons are a good team and they are the closest thing in the east that even compares to a team in the west, but the west is stacked with teams with all kinds of chemistry. The Pistons are good, I just don't think they are as great as last year. Last year they were scary. This year i can only compare them to the Trailblazers when they had all the talent and just teased us on getting to the championship. Good team, just not great. Pistons against anyone in the west, will lose in 6. If its the Spurs or I sure hope its not Phoenix, it will only go five.

Pistions, Miama, Baby Bulls, New Jersy (with Richard Jefferson), and Boston.

Suns, Spurs, Denver, Mavs, and Houston.

All the rest suck on both sides.

You do realize East and West both have good teams now? It is not totally 1 sided anymore.

Crazy88s 04-25-2005 02:32 AM

OK you guys got me. The east and west are composed of good teams, all good in their own right. The east is more of a run and gun with the exception of the pistons which can do both fast pace and half court. The west teams can all play half court but the mavs and the suns can do both. Only thing about those 2 is neither one have d. Spurs disappointed me tonight but I did say Spurs in 6, meaning they would have to lose 2. Just wish it wouldn't have been the first one, and at home at that.

Splaya 04-25-2005 11:30 AM

Honestly all you people picking Miami over Detroit are dead wrong. Detroit has a starting 5 and a 6th man. Miami has Shaq and Wade. Gee I think I'm going to take Detroit over Miami in 6 when it happens

DaveWadding 04-25-2005 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splaya
Honestly all you people picking Miami over Detroit are dead wrong. Detroit has a starting 5 and a 6th man. Miami has Shaq and Wade. Gee I think I'm going to take Detroit over Miami in 6 when it happens

Yeah but Shaq and Wade might be as good as the Wallaces, Tayshaun "Aw fuck, we should have taken Carmelo, god damnit" Prince, and Phantom of the Court Rip COMBINED.

Splaya 04-25-2005 12:03 PM

Wadding have you looked at stats otherwise than what Sportscenter shows you. Tayshaun is not just a defender now but a scorer. And yeah Melo was taken a year after Tayshaun. Your thinking of Darko, dipshit. Tayshaun vs Melo anyday of the week, Tayshaun wins. And Rip. Rip? Rip hits big shots all the time. Wade and Shaq are going to be in for a rough ride when they make it to the ECF

PureHatred 04-25-2005 12:56 PM

I think what he was referring to is the fact that the reason the Pistons drafted Darko was because they already had Melo playing the 3. That was their justification on draft day.

And the Heat may only have two name players, but their secondary guys do an excellent job of playing their roles. Last year, the Pistons let Shaq get his and shut down everyone else on the Lakers. With as many shooters as the Heat have, I don't see that happening this year.

It will be interesting to see who gets Billups, though, because right now Jones is playing the point and he would get ate up.

Splaya 04-25-2005 01:44 PM

Tell me you are saying Jones would get ate up and not Billups

The Icon of Elisim 04-25-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding
Yeah but Shaq and Wade might be as good as the Wallaces, Tayshaun "Aw fuck, we should have taken Carmelo, god damnit" Prince, and Phantom of the Court Rip COMBINED.

Prince fits in much better on that Detroit team than Melo would. When Melo isn't hitting shots on offensive he just stops playing defense. And if you want to compare how Carmelo and Prince have done in the playoffs, Melo has been a bit of a choker while Prince has steped up huge in the clutch (without his block on Reggie Miller last year the Pistons don't win the championship)

The Outlaw 04-25-2005 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splaya
Honestly all you people picking Miami over Detroit are dead wrong. Detroit has a starting 5 and a 6th man. Miami has Shaq and Wade. Gee I think I'm going to take Detroit over Miami in 6 when it happens

I'm not saying Miami will beat Detroit, but you need to look at their (Heat) depth chart sonny.

BCWWF 04-25-2005 03:50 PM

First of all Splaya, they picked Darko instead of Melo because they already had Tayshaun, so stop calling DaveWadding a dipshit.

Second of all, the East is still inflated and you are stupid if you can't see that. On the surface it may look like the top of the East is as good as the top of the West, but its not, simply because the West has better teams 1-15.

I will say that there were three teams in the West that were awful, those being New Orleans, Utah, and Portland. Besides that, every team in the West is competition, you can't write off the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers, Wolves, Grizzlies, Nuggets, anybody.

Now you go over to the East, and instead of having three teams of nothing, they have three teams that are good, a few teams that can compete, and a bunch of shit. Atlanta, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Toronto, Orlando, Cleveland, even New Jersey and Philly can be included in there.

You have to realize that if the Timberwolves or Lakers were in the Eastern Conference, they would be in the playoffs right now and Philadelphia and New Jersey wouldn't. It's harder competition, so a team with an identical record in the East and West, you can put money that the Western team is better.

Finally, take a look at Miami's record. 59-23, their record against the Eastern Conference was 41-11, that means that when they faced Western Conference teams they were 18-12. OVER HALF OF THE HEATS LOSSES WERE TO WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, AND THEY PLAYED 22 MORE GAMES AGAINST EASTERN TEAMS.

It is rediculous and stupid for anybody to try to claim parity just because losing teams didn't make the playoffs.

BCWWF 04-25-2005 03:54 PM

Nowthen I will go into my prediction. Honestly, I think that Detroit has a better overall team then Miami. These are the only two teams in the East with a legit post presence, one is the most dominant player in the league and one has two of the top defensive big men in the league.

I think that when it comes down to it, in the playoffs and under current conditions, the Pistons would win. I don't think Shaq is playing 100% right now and by the time they meet he could be in even worse condition, and even after that the Pistons just clog you up on defense.

Regardless, I think a Western team will win in the end, but Detroit and Miami are the only teams in the East with a legit chance of winning while there are probably six in the West that do.

Ruien 04-25-2005 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
First of all Splaya, they picked Darko instead of Melo because they already had Tayshaun, so stop calling DaveWadding a dipshit.

Second of all, the East is still inflated and you are stupid if you can't see that. On the surface it may look like the top of the East is as good as the top of the West, but its not, simply because the West has better teams 1-15.

I will say that there were three teams in the West that were awful, those being New Orleans, Utah, and Portland. Besides that, every team in the West is competition, you can't write off the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers, Wolves, Grizzlies, Nuggets, anybody.

Now you go over to the East, and instead of having three teams of nothing, they have three teams that are good, a few teams that can compete, and a bunch of shit. Atlanta, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Toronto, Orlando, Cleveland, even New Jersey and Philly can be included in there.

You have to realize that if the Timberwolves or Lakers were in the Eastern Conference, they would be in the playoffs right now and Philadelphia and New Jersey wouldn't. It's harder competition, so a team with an identical record in the East and West, you can put money that the Western team is better.

Finally, take a look at Miami's record. 59-23, their record against the Eastern Conference was 41-11, that means that when they faced Western Conference teams they were 18-12. OVER HALF OF THE HEATS LOSSES WERE TO WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, AND THEY PLAYED 22 MORE GAMES AGAINST EASTERN TEAMS.

It is rediculous and stupid for anybody to try to claim parity just because losing teams didn't make the playoffs.

Please, read Dave's post. He was the one that mixed up Darko and Prince, Splaya was just telling him. That is all I read of your post, because you have no idea about sports.

DaveWadding 04-25-2005 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien
Please, read Dave's post. He was the one that mixed up Darko and Prince, Splaya was just telling him. That is all I read of your post, because you have no idea about sports.

I didn't mix ANYONE up. Which should pretty obvious because three INTELLIGENT people (TIOE, BCWWF, and PH) picked up on what I was trying to say, while two known mongoloids (yourself, splaya) did not.

BCWWF 04-25-2005 05:41 PM

Lol.

DaveWadding made a comment about the Pistons not taking Carmelo because they already had Tayshaun Prince, also a young small forward.

Splaya midunderstood what Dave was saying and pointed out that the Pistons took Darko, not Tayshaun, instead of Carmelo.

The Icon of Elism, PureHatred, and myself pointed out how he was misinformed.

Both you and Splaya look retarded for not only being wrong, but being pompous and gay about it.

Splaya 04-25-2005 06:56 PM

I am pompous cause Detroit will repeat

BCWWF 04-25-2005 07:36 PM

I think Detroit has a good chance of taking the East again aswell, but what we are talking about is how you and Ruien are acting like ass holes when you aren't even right

MoRcHeEbA 04-25-2005 10:38 PM

BRING OUT THE BROOMS BABY [/Ricky Davis]

Gonzo 04-25-2005 10:52 PM

:mad: Slut.

The Outlaw 04-26-2005 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA
BRING OUT THE BROOMS BABY [/Ricky Davis]

lol

BCWWF 04-26-2005 01:25 AM

T-Mac is a stud. I used to not like him and question his drive, but I think he has proven quite a bit this season.

RP 04-26-2005 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA
BRING OUT THE BROOMS BABY [/Ricky Davis]


Whoops! Pacers 82 Boston 79.

DaveWadding 04-26-2005 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Whoops! Pacers 82 Boston 79.

You're a FUCKING IDIOT.

RP 04-26-2005 02:26 AM

Indiana matches up so horribly against Boston. That team is full of slashers and penatrators. We cant stop penatration at all . We get killed on offesive boards. I think we match up much better with Detroit or Miami.

PureHatred 04-26-2005 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
T-Mac is a stud. I used to not like him and question his drive, but I think he has proven quite a bit this season.

Yeah. I was thinking the same thing. Dallas should've won that game. But TMac would not allow his team to fold. He psuhed Yao to a career game and then completely took over that game. Every time it seemed the Mavs were gonna pull away, Mac would hit these "ice water running through his veins" kind of shots.

And that look he gave after he hit the game winner....that "I just tore out your heart" scowl...priceless. :lol:

I picked the mavs, and they are a better team than they were last year(despite what Kenny & Chuck said, they do play D) but Houston is executing in the clutch. I honestly think that Avery Johnson ( a great coach who was the one who got through to that team about playing defense) doesn't have enough experience in close games. They had problems getting the ball to Dirk down the stretch, why not change tactics and find Finley?

Damn, I love the play-offs.

RP 04-26-2005 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveWadding
You're a FUCKING IDIOT.


Lets see if the Suns get out of the second round jackass. I doubt they will even get past Memphis.

Nervous Ferret 04-26-2005 02:33 AM

Rectal Pertruder, Do you act this fucking retarded away from your computer?

BCWWF 04-26-2005 12:28 PM

There is no doubt that the Suns beat Memphis, unless things go drastically different the West will be represented by Houston or Phoenix.

Bad Guy 04-26-2005 03:58 PM

Detroit v Houston finals.

Not sure who I'm taking yet.

Nark Order 04-26-2005 07:21 PM

Sac will beat Seattle but will fall soon after. And if they do somehow make it to the Western Conference finals The Suns (Who are going to win everything) will destroy them.

Nark Order 04-26-2005 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Lets see if the Suns get out of the second round jackass. I doubt they will even get past Memphis.

Are you joking? The Suns are going to rock ass this year. I'm predicting them to win it all this year.

Bad Guy 04-26-2005 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Lets see if the Suns get out of the second round jackass.

Whatever this joker is smoking, I want some of it right now. It has GOT to be some strong stuff.

weather vane 04-26-2005 10:57 PM

Celtics all the way baby. Get ready.

The Icon of Elisim 04-26-2005 11:24 PM

Just gotta say that Houston has been playing amazing in this series (about 20 times better than I expected) but anyone that thinks that they'll go to the finals is crazy. They don't have the front court depth to cover Amare and no matter how good Yao is playing right now, he doesn't have the conditioning to run up and down the floor for half a game.

I have to give respect to McGrady, the last two games he's played better than I've ever seen him play. I'd say its some of the best basketball I've ever seen (I'm still a relatively new fan of the league, only started watching in 2000 or so).

Gonzo 04-26-2005 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hurricane
Celtics all the way baby. Get ready.

Hell yeah mother fucker. Probably going to drop another game to Indy but they'll take the series in 6 I think. I hope too. :D

Ruien 04-27-2005 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim
Just gotta say that Houston has been playing amazing in this series (about 20 times better than I expected) but anyone that thinks that they'll go to the finals is crazy. They don't have the front court depth to cover Amare and no matter how good Yao is playing right now, he doesn't have the conditioning to run up and down the floor for half a game.

I have to give respect to McGrady, the last two games he's played better than I've ever seen him play. I'd say its some of the best basketball I've ever seen (I'm still a relatively new fan of the league, only started watching in 2000 or so).

He can match Amare, but then you have Marian. He can not match both.

PureHatred 04-27-2005 12:41 AM

Lotta people talking about how weak the Heat's bench was weak, looked very misinformed tonight.

They are role players who play their role perfectly.

And Zo might go through kidneys the way Nelly goes through Cristal, but if he plays like that through the playoff, Pat Riley gets his parade in downtonw Miami this year. Everyone loves the Wallace boys, but not even they can hang with Shaq AND a frisky Zo.

SammyG 04-27-2005 12:51 AM

Seattle lookin damn impressive today, maybe they stand a chance too

The Icon of Elisim 04-27-2005 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PureHatred
Lotta people talking about how weak the Heat's bench was weak, looked very misinformed tonight.

They are role players who play their role perfectly.

And Zo might go through kidneys the way Nelly goes through Cristal, but if he plays like that through the playoff, Pat Riley gets his parade in downtonw Miami this year. Everyone loves the Wallace boys, but not even they can hang with Shaq AND a frisky Zo.

Its easy for a bench of role players to look great when they are playing New Jersey. Wait until they have to face a real team.

PureHatred 04-27-2005 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Icon of Elisim
Its easy for a bench of role players to look great when they are playing New Jersey. Wait until they have to face a real team.

Hi. The Nets were 16-5 down the streatch, and ANYTIME your team waxes a team in the playoffs to go up 2-0 when that team is fighting for its playoff lives, AND your franchise player is on the bench, its impressive.

The Icon of Elisim 04-27-2005 01:28 PM

Those 16 wins were against New Orleans, Orlando, Chicago, Utah, Indiana twice (no Jermaine O'neal), Charlotte, LA Clippers, New York twice, Cleveland and Philli. Add two wins against Boston and one against Washington at the end of the season.

Its called strength in schedule.

PureHatred 04-27-2005 02:29 PM

I'm not sure where you're going with this: even if you say that the Nets aren't a good team, are you really trying to say the Heat are going to have troubles in Round 2 with either the Wiz or the Bulls? Are you saying the Heat aren't a good team? I'm not sure what you're actual point is.

Are you going to be one of those idiots who waits until the Heat lose to the Pistons in the Eastern Conference Finals or to whoever comes out of the West and then pipes up?: "SEE!! I TOLD YOU THE HEAT SUX!!!"

Being one of the final four teams in the NBA does not make your season a failure.

The Icon of Elisim 04-27-2005 04:14 PM

You said that the Heat bench had a great game in the second game, I said this proves nothing since they were playing New Jersey. Since the Nets suck, the bench of the Heat is going to look alot better than it really is.

I never said that the Heat are bad, I said that you shouldn't be calling their bench good based on one game especially against a bad team. And just because I don't like their bench doesn't mean I don't like the team. They'll make it to the Eastern finals and lose to Detroit. On an unrelated note, that will still be considered a failure since the second they brought in Shaq they became a team that should make it to the finals.

RP 04-27-2005 04:33 PM

I cant believe i picked the Nets over the Heat.

Also , I'm telling you. If Indiana makes it past Boston. They match up really good with Detroit, but we'll definetly need Jermaine O'Neal for that series. IF we get past Boston. Boston's lineup gives us fits.

I'm not saying the Suns are a bad team. Infact they are great, but some of those teams in the west would scare me if i played the Suns style of basketball. Specifically Memphis and Seattle. Cause both of those teams are well coached and can run with the Suns. I doubt Phoenix will match up with Seattle cause that would be a pretty improbable West Finals matchup, but if they did. I wouldnt be shocked at all if Seattle won. Remember how hot Seattle was in the first half of the season? If they play like that... They can beat the Suns.

I also dont by this hype about Houston all of a sudden. I did pick Houston vs Indiana in the prediction thread but comon. Houston is beating up on a Dallas team that isnt playing any defense whatsoever ( which is shocking cause they were playing great defense ). Nowitski is no where to be found. Phoenix could make it a 5 game series against Houston.

Nark Order 04-27-2005 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SammyG
Seattle lookin damn impressive today, maybe they stand a chance too

Naw, the Kings will take the series (They better)

SammyG 04-27-2005 07:59 PM

Don't think the Kings have what it takes. and by the way i have talked to peja stojakovic :D i saw him in a game when he played in the greek league for paok, talked english to him, hes cool

Kid Robb 04-28-2005 02:06 AM

You never want to call it too early, but lol @ people picking Washington over the Bulls. They may get the crap kicked out of them by Miami, but still, from such a shit start they're pretty good.

PureHatred 04-28-2005 11:31 AM

Nobody said the Bulls were bad. They're just missing tow of their best players including their leading scorer. I'm surprised at how resilient they are for such a young team.

BCWWF 04-28-2005 02:31 PM

Is Deng still out too?

Ninti the Mad 04-28-2005 02:37 PM

Man, I hate how they space out the games now.

Second year they space it out so much and its still gay.

I want to see a Houston/Phoenix matchup. That seris is probably going to steal the playoff highlights.

HURRRRRRRRY

The Outlaw 04-28-2005 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BCWWF
Is Deng still out too?

Yup...Surprising that they are tearing stuff up with two key guys out.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-28-2005 11:38 PM

Fucking Celtics just got it handed to them. Fuck

The Outlaw 04-28-2005 11:56 PM

Walker let the emotion get to him. Talk about a guy snapping over nothing.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-28-2005 11:59 PM

O'Neal needs to grow up too though, obviously people are going to attack him like with a bum shoulder.

They both attacked dumb but whatever. I'm not an O'Neal fan at all. I remember a few years back he did work againest the Celts in game 1 - Might have only been the 1st half too. I think he had like 25 points in the 1st alf. Got all cocky and shit. Like "show boating" and what not. Then didn't do shit the rest of the way.

The Outlaw 04-29-2005 12:41 AM

Yeah I'm not a huge Maine fan either.

RP 04-29-2005 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sTiMa34
O'Neal needs to grow up too though, obviously people are going to attack him like with a bum shoulder.

They both attacked dumb but whatever. I'm not an O'Neal fan at all. I remember a few years back he did work againest the Celts in game 1 - Might have only been the 1st half too. I think he had like 25 points in the 1st alf. Got all cocky and shit. Like "show boating" and what not. Then didn't do shit the rest of the way.

I remember that game. :lol: I thought he would score 60 on you guys.


I cant believe i'm bout to start this shit with you again. I battled you in the Colts/ Pats matchup and now Pacers / Boston....


First of all. Out of everyteam in the East, the Celtics give us the toughest matchup problems.. Indiana cannot stop slashing backdoor attack the basket style of basketball. For some reason the Celtics have totally went away from this type of basketball. I'm not sure if its Indiana just absolutely controlling the tempo or Boston just isnt doing what they did in Game 1. Maybe a little of both, but i do know one thing; Doc Rivers is a great coach and Danny Ainge knew what he was doing building this team. This will probably go 6 . Possibly 7. I'm taking Indy of course.

Boston has no one to guard Reggie Miller if he's playing his best 39 year old game. He's played that game back to back now. Boston has a problem.


I'll be the first to admit. Jermaine whines sometimes and definetly loses his cool every once in a while. Especially this season, But Antoine Walker is a absolute punk bitch. Going after other players injuries is weak shit! Theres a difference between playing a guy a little rougher cause he's a little gimp in a limb or something, but the two Antoine Walker fouls were bull shit. The rest of Boston played O'neal hard and rough but not over accesive. Hear me out here. The first foul by Walker at first glance, looked like they got tangled up, but when replayed.... It looked like he got under his arm and tried to jerk that shoulder out. The second foul honestly would not have been a big problem if he hadnt blatently thrown his shoulder/arm in the direction of O'neals shoulder. If he was closer he may have connected and if he connected.... O'neal should have and would have knocked him the fuck out! YOU DONT FUCK with a 123 million dollar shoulder . Thats fucking weak. Thats why O'neal shoved him. O'neal might be fined for the shove or something , but Walker should get a heavy fine for his actions and though i dont care either way and i hope this dont happen, i think he will probably get suspending for throwing that ref out of the way.

RP 04-29-2005 03:18 AM

Off topic here:

BTW notice the avatar? I swear i wont take it off til the Colts beat the Patriots. Thats my little promise to myself .

Nervous Ferret 04-29-2005 03:28 AM

gunna have that avatar for a long time :)

reggie divesssssssssssss

Gonzo 04-29-2005 11:23 AM

I said Celtics in 6 and they'll win the next 3 god dammit. :mad:


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