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Crimson 04-23-2005 01:52 PM

NFL Draft thread
 
Well 7 picks in and no trades or surprises..except Mike Williams is still there..if he is there at 11 the Cowboys better fuckin take him , who cares if they already have Key, a similiar reciever..he's getting older.They passed on Jackson last year but I believe they should take Williams if there :rant:.

Also Aaron Rogers is still there..looks like he'll drop for a bit more.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 02:05 PM

yeah, ROFL at Rodgers. Last week he was gunna go #1, he's not even gunna be a top 10 pick now. Flippin between this and the yankee game.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 02:05 PM

FUCKING Jets traded out of the first round.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 02:06 PM

nah it was a good trade tho, Jolley is better than anything we woulda got, and now we got 2 2nd round picks.

MoRcHeEbA 04-23-2005 02:28 PM

Detroit took Mike Williams... :wtf:

MoRcHeEbA 04-23-2005 02:29 PM

also I dunno about the Vikes taking Williamson

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 03:02 PM

haha their saying Rodgers might not go until 24 to the Packers.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 03:03 PM

yeah Williams to the Loins was pritty retarded.

FearedSanctity 04-23-2005 03:08 PM

Nah, Detroit's just getting ready for Rogers to get injured again.

DaveWadding 04-23-2005 03:09 PM

I'm shocked @ the Cards pick this year. They made it good.

OssMan 04-23-2005 03:14 PM

jesus, the lions are fucking stacked with wide receivers. The WRs started playing really well last year too.

Crimson 04-23-2005 04:10 PM

Lions are stupid..they need defense,what's the point of 3 starting recievers..

Cowboys adressing defense I guess they are switching to a 3-4. Hope they take a wr,or corner with the 2nd rounder.

el fregadero 04-23-2005 04:20 PM

Matt Jones to Jacksonville. I don't know much about him, but they were saying he's 6'6" and ran a 4.36. I hope he's the missing link for the Jaguars.

el fregadero 04-23-2005 04:25 PM

Jags better get Bryant McFadden in the second round.

Supermark101 04-23-2005 04:30 PM

Matt Jones is a freak of nature. I dont know what Jacksonville needs, but your getting Hines Ward with more SIZE and SPEED. Im sad Tampa Bay couldn't get him. :'(

DaveWadding 04-23-2005 04:30 PM

So Rodgers is probably going to Green Bay.

MoRcHeEbA 04-23-2005 04:40 PM

I don't know why they just picked him... Favre is gonna play for like another 30 years.

The Outlaw 04-23-2005 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supermark101
Matt Jones is a freak of nature. I dont know what Jacksonville needs, but your getting Hines Ward with more SIZE and SPEED. Im sad Tampa Bay couldn't get him. :'(

Ok BCWWF.

Nahh, he's right. Matt Jones is a freaking beast.

PureHatred 04-23-2005 05:18 PM

Love the two defensive picks by the Cowboys. I think Ronnie Brown might end up being the best player in this draft.

BCWWF 04-23-2005 06:13 PM

There is no way the Lions will keep both Mike and Roy aswell as Charles Johnson. I expect them to move Mike somewhere, maybe to a team like the Jets or something. Weren't they looking for improvement in the WR ranks?

Crimson 04-23-2005 06:40 PM

Charles Rogers. They probably will keep all 3 this year and then next year probably trade one of them or something.

BCWWF 04-23-2005 08:19 PM

I can't see them keeping both Williams' though, they are both #1 material and usually that doesn't last long.

FearedSanctity 04-23-2005 08:21 PM

I've waited 8 1/2 fucking hours, Denver better fucking pick someone good

The Miz 04-23-2005 08:29 PM

Does anybody actually watch this on TV? Its like the most boring thing of all time, took them 6 hours to get through the 1st round

Gonzo 04-23-2005 10:38 PM

I usually watch a little bit. The Giants first pick wasn't till the 43rd overall so I didn't bother watching that long.

FearedSanctity 04-23-2005 10:58 PM

OMG, how the fuck could Denver draft Maurice Clarett?

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 11:14 PM

I usually have it on all day, but I don't really sit and watch it.
OMGGG at the Jets. If they didn't draft that guy from Clemson Jets fans woulda revolted hugeeeeeeee. and lol @ Nugent.

Crimson 04-23-2005 11:23 PM

Jets got lucky Justin Miller fell. lol@ Clarett to denver,watch him be an all-pro now and shut his critics.

Nervous Ferret 04-23-2005 11:24 PM

rofl at Rodgers tho, fell all the way to #24

Gonzo 04-24-2005 12:18 AM

If Clarett has any sort of career in Denver it will be because of the system. They already had Tatum Bell and Quentin Griffin. They picked up Ron Dayne during FA and now they add Clarett? Waste of a pick.

Evil Vito 04-24-2005 10:15 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Webster and Tuck :y: Both guys high on their draft boards.

Now they'd better take that RB Ciatrick Fason next if he's there</font> :mad:

Evil Vito 04-24-2005 11:47 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Typical Giants.....coulda had 3 of the 4 top guys on their board, but they pass on Fason and go with some guy named Brandon Jacobs instead and Fason goes 2 picks later :|

Jacobs had better be good</font> :mad:

Innovator 04-24-2005 12:04 PM

I'm surprised the Giants passed on Dan Cody. I thought he'd be great to take a couple snaps while Strahan was getting some rest.

Evil Vito 04-24-2005 12:32 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Looking at the footage, Jacobs might have not been a bad pick. He's friggin' huge, 6'4", 256 lbs. Should be a great 3rd down/goal-line back, I Just hope he'll be good enough if Tiki gets injured/when Tiki retires in a couple of years.</font>

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-24-2005 12:35 PM

Logan Mankins

Surprising pick I guess - I don't know though. The Patriots never do whats expected. I figured they would go DB or LB with this pick but I guess not. Hopefully he turns out to be nasty. Cant doubt them when it comes to drafting anymore :cool:

SammyG 04-24-2005 12:53 PM

Rams did a great job

Bad Guy 04-24-2005 12:59 PM

At first, I'm pretty sure Detroit was going to go after Derrick Johnson, then when I heard "Mike Williams" I was like what the fuck. Then I started thinking the same thing as...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearedSanctity
Nah, Detroit's just getting ready for Rogers to get injured again.


Fucking Charles Rogers injury prone piece of shit.

Gonzo 04-24-2005 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22
Looking at the footage, Jacobs might have not been a bad pick. He's friggin' huge, 6'4", 256 lbs. Should be a great 3rd down/goal-line back, I Just hope he'll be good enough if Tiki gets injured/when Tiki retires in a couple of years.

That was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this pick. 3rd down and short yardage back, big bruiser to help mix it up and provide an alternative to Tiki. Hopefully he becomes what Ron Dayne should have been.

BCWWF 04-24-2005 03:34 PM

Atiyyah Ellison to the Panthers

BCWWF 04-24-2005 03:39 PM

Wow, somebody actually drafted Damien Nash, Tennessee in the fifth, and then CJ Mosley fell all the way to the sixth...VIKINGS!!!!!

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-24-2005 05:48 PM

I can't believe Swancutt from Oregon State went so late. He looked pretty damn good everytime I saw him play. Could be a sleeper.

Patriots also picked Matt Cassell QB from USC in the 7th round. If I am thinking right I don't think he could have ever played - Palmer then Lienhart. Next Brady? I doubt it haha

BCWWF 04-24-2005 06:47 PM

Yeah WTF, I saw him get picked and was like "QB USC" WHAT?

But let me be the first to say, I am giving Maurice Clarett a clean slate and hope he does well, and I think he could be decent too. Especially with the Bronco's RB success.

Loose Cannon 04-24-2005 06:51 PM

Jets get anybody decent? I don't follow College football at all, so I don't know the players

BCWWF 04-24-2005 06:58 PM

They took the kicker first overall :mad:

I wanted him REALLY BAD, but I guess with Doug Brien you can't blame them, and I think we got a good guy after that anyway. But they didn't have a first round pick, I don't think they did anything spectacular in the draft.

Loose Cannon 04-24-2005 06:59 PM

oh, thank god for a kicker

BCWWF 04-24-2005 07:02 PM

Doug Brien did the Vikings a favor, we had him in 2002 I think, and we were AWFUL, but if Brien was good we would have won at least two more games and had a lower draft pick.

So even though Brien pissed the hell out of me back then, getting McKinnie that year doesn't hurt anybody.

FearedSanctity 04-24-2005 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
But let me be the first to say, I am giving Maurice Clarett a clean slate and hope he does well, and I think he could be decent too. Especially with the Bronco's RB success.

I hope Clarett does well to, but if anything it's gonna be as second string. I REALLY don't see him passing up Tatum Bell.

Nervous Ferret 04-24-2005 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Jets get anybody decent? I don't follow College football at all, so I don't know the players

Mike Nugent :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

and some corner from Clemson. Seems pritty decent, don't really follow Clemson

Crimson 04-24-2005 08:46 PM

McPhereson to the Saints...he should take Brook's job within 2 years,he needs some time..but they say he's like a Mike Vick type QB.

Arizona had a good draft i thought ,Arrington,Rolle,and decent defensive guys.

el fregadero 04-24-2005 11:03 PM

I remember McPherson getting in some kind of trouble with the law (I think it was drunk driving) and that is why FSU was still using piece of shit Chris Rix last year.

Nervous Ferret 04-25-2005 12:00 AM

yeah McPherson got kicked off the team or something. I think it was for drunk driving.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-25-2005 12:11 AM

No he didn't get caught drunk driving - here's the story:

He stole a blank check and cashed it for 3,500 dollars. The team found out, he started the next game. Pretty sure it was a loss - then he got booted from the team the next day. Then they said he was gambling too but he denies all of that. He admitted to the blank check thing though.

So he played last season in the Arena Football Leauge and absolutely tore shit up. He had pretty good work outs (put up 225 pounds something crazy like 23 times) and teams were pleased with the fact he took the blame for his mistakes.

He should be solid - He's not as much as a running threat as Vick though. He is still mobile but his 40 time isn't anything ridiculous like 4.3 or something. I think its around a 4.7.

el fregadero 04-25-2005 12:25 AM

Everybody at Florida State gets in trouble with the law though, so it isn't his fault really.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-25-2005 12:50 AM

Florida State has got a nice prospect coming up at QB. Xavier Lee - dude is gross.

Im surprised he is STILL a QB though - figured he'd be a wideout.

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/ph...1616_lower.jpg
That's him in the green jersey

Gertner 04-25-2005 12:59 AM

I agree Stima, I thought for sure the Pats would go lb, especially with the fact that their lb corps is not getting any younger.

BCWWF 04-25-2005 01:50 AM

Stima you should go to Florida State next year

The Outlaw 04-25-2005 02:29 PM

Brandon Jacobs, isn't that the sick Auburn RB who transferred when he knew he was going to get shit for playing time?

If so, the kid is plain nasty. Guy averaged more YAC than Caddy or Ronnie. He averaged like 6.7 or something while...Brown I think averaged 6.3. He's a load.

Gonzo 04-25-2005 02:48 PM

Yeah he transferred from Auburn to Souther Illinois to get more time rather than split it with Cadillac and Brown. The coach didn't redshirt him at Auburn or else he probably would have stayed because he would've started as a senior. While at Auburn for a year he did average a higher YPC than Cadillac or Brown, like Outlaw said.

Then at Southern Illinois he had 19 TD's and 6+ YPC. Ridiculously huge too, like 6'3" 260lbs.

Link

5th and 12th paragraphs.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-25-2005 04:37 PM

http://www.auburntigers.com/emplibra...cobs_10220.jpghttp://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/...cobsmaroon.jpg

Yeah thats him - After seeing this pic I remember he got a penatly for "show boating" in one of those senior bowls. He stuck the ball in the defensive backs stomach after he ran by him. Hilarious shit.

BCWWF 04-25-2005 06:25 PM

I kind of get the impression that the Cleveland Browns are looking to get Matt Lienert next year. They clearly would have been better off this season to draft Cadillac or Aaron Rodgers, but they took Braylon, and as we saw with Larry Fitzgerald he probably won't have a big effect right away, especially without the QB. Then they take Pollack, who will definatly help them, but not an extreme amount by himself.

So it looks like they drafted guys that could be and should be really good in their careers, but guys that won't help them win very much next year. What do you guys think?

RoXer 04-25-2005 06:32 PM

Walter on the Radiers...I friggen hate the Raiders. I'll still support Walter though.

Crimson 04-25-2005 08:38 PM

BCWWF what the hell are u talking about? Pollack went to the Bengals. And how do you figure that Edwards won't make a big impact...? As if Rodgers would ...he wouldn't even start a game probably, lol.

Gonzo 04-25-2005 09:20 PM

You do know that the QB has to throw the ball to the WR for the WR to be successful?

Anyways, I hope this Brandon Jacobs fellow turns into a beast. :love:

The Outlaw 04-26-2005 01:16 AM

He's pretty ridiculous from what I remember. Might be a sleeper.

BCWWF 04-26-2005 01:29 AM

My bad about Pollack, get them mixed up...oops.

But it shouldn't be a really hard concept to grasp. The quarterback is the most important guy on the team, and without a good one a wide reciever doesn't really do much. You saw it with Larry Fitzgerald, I think it will be the same thing with Braylon.

It makes sense though, they load up on really good players but ones that probably won't do much for them this year, so that they can get the best possible QB to make the other players better. Do you really think drafting Braylon will make the Browns a significantly better team?

PureHatred 04-26-2005 02:39 AM

I see what you're saying. But Cleveland is in Year One of a massive rebuilding project. Nobody they drafted this year was going to make them much better. They decimated their defense (probably a good thing), they're starting Trent Dilfer, and their best offenisve weapon is coming off a season-ending injury. Romeo Cornell isn't one to phone in anything, but yeah, in the back of his head I'm sure he's looking at that team and figuring, "Yeah, we pick #1 next year."

Also, I'm a little surprised they picked Edwards because Cornell comes form the New England system where character guys are important; Edwards is kind of an ass and that locker room is full of headcases. Expected them to trade down and get the LB from texas.

Ah well....gonna go read another draft report where the 'Boys got an A grade...

Nervous Ferret 04-26-2005 02:42 AM

Everywhere I read the Jets are getting a "C" or lower. But thats what happens when you trade out of the 1st round. :rant:

PureHatred 04-26-2005 03:44 AM

Well, I love the Nugent pick. Doug Jolley + Nugent > staying in the first round and drafting Heath Miller IMO.

Nervous Ferret 04-26-2005 03:48 AM

yeah I agree, I wasn't expecting anything big to come out of this draft, looks like Justin Miller is gunna be replacing Santanna Moss @ unt returns :cool: + we finally have a kicker, + we finally have a tight end + Lavernious =:)

PureHatred 04-26-2005 03:51 AM

Come fantasy football season, I'm gonna sit on Coles like a hawk. He's going to be around a 5th or 6th round pick that puts up 2nd round numbers.

BCWWF 04-26-2005 12:26 PM

PureHatred, I think you were misunderstood by my post, but thats what I am saying too. It looks like they are picking up guys who are going to be really good, but not doing it in the order that will improve them right away.

Gonzo 04-26-2005 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret
yeah I agree, I wasn't expecting anything big to come out of this draft, looks like Justin Miller is gunna be replacing Santanna Moss @ unt returns :cool: + we finally have a kicker, + we finally have a tight end + Lavernious =:)

They should have stayed in the first, taken Miller. Nugent would most likely have fell to their pick in the 2nd. Kickers are drafted that high very often and I can't think of any other team that hasn't addressed the position or is in sore enough need to draft the best one out of college.

MoRcHeEbA 04-26-2005 03:01 PM

Vikings have no kicker and they probably would have taken him in the second round if the Jets didn't take him.

Gonzo 04-26-2005 04:19 PM

Given the fact that the Jets traded up in the second to get ahead of Minny anyways, I doubt that.

Crimson 04-26-2005 08:51 PM

Well the Cowboys offense will stink but their defense will be pretty good i guess. blah as long as the Eagles fall apart this year it'll be all good.

Gonzo 04-26-2005 09:40 PM

I think the Cowboys are going to rise to dominance if Parcells can build the team the way he likes to. As long as he stays and finishes what he has started they are going to return to their former forms. Parcells is definitely building what he has had in his past teams, a running game and a defense. They definitely addressed defense in the draft with some great picks. They have Julius Jones who showed some definite promise last year. Drew Bledsoe won't be a godsend, but he isn't a slouch either, so he should get the job done.

I can definitely see them 2nd in the division this year and competing for the division title within the next few years.

Gonzo 04-26-2005 09:41 PM

However, I'm with Crimson in hoping the Eagles fall apart. While I do hate the Cowboys and Redskins quite a bit my loathe of the Eagles far exceeds both of those two teams. Definitely going to go down to the Giants/Eagles in New Jersey this year.

Crimson 04-27-2005 10:12 PM

Im trying to get tickets to the Cowboys/Chargers..or Cowboys/Raiders,but the drive to Oakland is a little more far, so maybe to the Sandiego one. I defeniatley liked the Barber pick as a backup to Jones.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-30-2005 06:06 PM

Im surprised Jason White from OU didn't get drafted. I figured he would be picked up on the 2nd day.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-30-2005 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret
yeah Williams to the Loins was pritty retarded.

Portland Trailblazers passed up on Michael Jordan because they needed a big man....

el fregadero 04-30-2005 11:57 PM

Yeah, I don't know where you are going with that, Stima.

Gonzo 04-30-2005 11:59 PM

Meaning if the Blazers took MJ things could have been very different for both franchies, the other one being Chicago. Therefore since Williams was available Detroit took him, rather than pass up on him.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 05-01-2005 12:12 AM

I think El Freg was being sarcastic. Atleast I hope so.

Also I think this because Gonzo you seem to have trouble picking up sarcasm in posts.

Gonzo 05-01-2005 12:16 AM

Nah, I sensed the undertone but you never know. Either way I don't care.


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