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Chris Jericho needs to chill out, and take a look at his future.
Before I start, let me just say that the Hulkster is very proud of the way Shawn Michaels conducted himself last night. Although Michaels and I haven't really crossed paths with one another in the past, I have been watching him from WCW.
I can honestly say that Shawn Michaels is a different and more mature man now. I am really glad that Shawn has not only grown as a professional, but as a human being as well. As far as I'm concerned, HBK really stole the show last night......and also helped the Hulkster carry on his legacy. The Hulkster digs that! :cool: On to Chris Jericho: I watched Chris Jericho last night, and I can't help but feel sorry for the kid. Jericho is still one of the most talented wrestlers alive today (in the Hulkster's humble opinion), but he seems to have lost his confidence. Jericho himself has admitted that he's been in a slump for over half a year now, but I think he's selling himself short. Deep down, I think most fans would agree that Jericho has been in a slump since 2002......when he lost the title to Triple H. After Jericho lossed to Benjamin last night, I could really see the frustration and hurt in Jericho's eyes. The question is, what's Jericho gonna do about it? -Will Jericho just "fade away" and retire into oblivion? -Will Jericho re-discover his fire and passion, and get back to the main-event level? Only time will tell brother......only time will tell. My only concern for Jericho at this time, is that he's going to become bitter. I have no problem with Jericho re-discovering his DRIVE, but the Hulkster doesn't want to see Jericho take his frustration out on the fans. Chris is a very popular individual, and it would be a shame to see him throw that out the window. Regardless of what happens, the HULKSTER really expects to see big things from Jericho in the not-so-distant future. The anger and hurt in Jericho's eyes last night, may just be a sign of things to come brother. :cool: |
Please die.
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Hulkster amazing how you can take the time out of taking your vitamen's saying your prayers to post here. Last night I think there was a tear in my eye
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Identity crisis or just pure stupid? ;)
But yeah, Jericho's the most underused talent in the WWE today, imo. Jericho could've definitely been huge, but of course the fantastic writers the WWE has completely fucked up something great yet again. |
wouldn't you be pissed off the way he's been treated by the WWE? he's by far the most popular current wrestler and has been only jsut behind austin and rock since his debut. And hes one of the best wrestlers out there as well as one of the best entertainers. And what does he get?? A 3-4 month title reign that made JBLs reign look credible. I can't remember a title defence where he didn't get outside help...it was fucking lame.
He needs to get the character from 2000 where he'd just flip out completely and do whatever. I almost thought he was gonna slap the ref into the walls of jericho last night after losing to Shelton. I think the crazy's are returning for Y2J which is great because unrationalness and unpredictability is what the WWE really desperately needs now. After watching Backlash last night, everything was just sooo predictable and boring. Then again Jericho seems happy enough as he is now - he's the first undisputed champion and the record IC champ as well and has held EVERY title available. I just hope that at 34 he still has lots to give to his millions of Jerichoholics worldwide and doesn't completely go into Fozzy as that would be a waste. |
Hey dudes,
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Hey dudes,
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Whatever personal demons you are facing in real life kid, I hope you overcome them. I have no beef with you dude. :cool: |
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Jerichoholic-shut it about predicteble and boring you ignorant jackass.
Jericho V Shelton was a great match, and Jericho stepped it up, you arent giving him the credit he deserves and obviously went into the PPV in a negative mindset, your just looking to be critical like the typical Internet fan would. |
Hold on I speak Hulkamaniac,
*pulls in Mean Gene* Gene: Innovator what do you think of Chris Jericho- Innovator: WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING MEAN GENE! I've seen Chris Jericho brother, and the Innovaster digs him brother! Chris Jericho climbed to the top of the mountain and wrestled with the big lions brother! But you see, Jericho has fallen off lately, he needs to take a page out of the Hulkster's book brother! He needs to have a mammoth match which will sink America into the ground brother! And all of the Jericholics can latch onto the 19' Fozzy mics and Jericho can backstroke to safety! All I can say is this, WHACHA GONNA DO WWE, WHEN JERICHOLISM RUNS WILD ON YOU! and in case any of you have forgotten how awesome Jericho is, check out the desire video: xxxhttp://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0DZS6HHU99Q2014Q6MKKI1J9S0 |
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Not to take anything away from Shelton Benjamin brother, but the 2000/01 version of Chris Jericho would've beaten him in my opinion. The problem I see with Jericho, is that he became content with what he accomplished.....and no longer strived for greatness. That's why the Hulkster was intrigued to see Jericho get upset after last night's loss. In the Hulkster's opinion, this may be a sign of things to come. One thing I don't hope for however, is Jericho to turn against the fans. |
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WWE has always been predicteble, but last nights PPV was good and i'm giving credit where it's due. yeah WWE is in the shithole, but that doesn't mean things wont look up. I lost all faith a while ago, but after last night, it seems different. Fuck, if they start getting shit again though i'll be one of the first to say so.
And have you seen my posts? I'm one of the people who hate HHH.I always switch over during his promos. So shut it with the accusations. Btw, your rep is only worth two pts. |
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the reason why i say its predictable and boring is cos i was sat watching and calling every thing the minute before it happened. i knew Jericho would be first out, i knew Edge would hit benoit with the trash can lid when he went for the flying headbutt through the ropes - it just got boring so i turned it off and went to sleep. i guess i need to take a break from watching WWE as nothing really surprises me anymore and i can guess whats going to happen. my HHH point was a rhetorical point and i cant imagine anyone within the realms of reality defending him on this website. for what its worth, your rep is only worth 5pts....who the fuck gives a damn about rep. every persons opinion is worth the same as the next - unless they defend HHH, then its worth shit. |
I don't give a fuck either to be honest..except it shows a sign of respect from others. My 5 pts for you though is alot more damaging to your 2 to me, considering you have less..just saying though, not being serious about it.
And maybe you should stop guessing things? I havent watched a PPV in months, so it felt like a new thing for me all over again. I didn't have to pay either so that was good, but i try not to look at whats going to happen and focus more on what is happening,and appreciate what is going on, then i decide whether it's entertaining or not. |
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LoL, i hate it when im like that, i was watching on SS1 also. The way they made this PPV though if you watch it again(like ive just done-replay is just finishing now) you'll notice how well booked it was(besides the Masters bit), considering how cynical we all were before it started.
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anything with masters has just been shit. if you want to see some really bad booking watch TNA for a bit.
i think the main thing we should be discussing is why the fuck someone is trying to impersonate a 54 year old has been who's gimmick died years ago.... |
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I think Jericho is fed up with his current character and who could honestly blame him? Jericho has basically hit his peak and hasn't been the same since "the real career killer" Triple H won the WWE Undisputed Title from him back in 2002. Since then, he's been kinda de-pushed back into the upper-mid card and hasn't really had any memorable feuds, although the one with HBK @ Wrestlemania 19 was an awesome match & candidate for match of the year. Jericho has basically been misused to the point of no credibility. And this so-called "losing streak" of Jericho's is further proof. Jericho is probably the 3rd best wrestler in the WWE behind Angle & Benoit, yet, he isn't used to his full potential. It's insane what the man can do inside the ring and how great an athlete that he truly is. Instead, we are forced to watch as Triple H takes over RAW each and every single week. They may as well call it "WWE Monday Night HHH show" instead of "WWE Monday Night RAW", as the focus is always on Triple H. I have no real problem with HHH other than him always being the focus of the show. Ok, we get it. Triple H is good. He's proven it 10 times. Which is pretty much ridiculous considering Flair hadn't won nearly as many titles back in his day that early in his career. Point being, Triple H is too much the center of RAW. Meanwhile, you got guys like Jericho, Benoit, Benjamin, Christian, Edge, HBK, etc that could be the main focus of RAW and each guy is much fresher than seeing Triple H. This has been the major contributing factor to Jericho's currently "stale" character. Basically, no focus has been on him and he hasn't had a solid main-event type feud since he & HBK wrestled @ WM 19. The only way for Jericho to get back any credibility would be to start winning, and soon. If it takes a heel turn, so be it. Jericho has always played the better heel IMO and would be better suited for main-events if turned heel. But, it's doubtful this will happen. It would be a real shame if Jericho were to walk away and retire from wrestling because the WWE writers are too pre-focused with HHH...... |
Well your post was certainly original olympic hitman, you've just said everything weve all been saying for god knows how long.
And lol@kinda de-pushed. Kinda? Wtf are you on there man? He's been buried into deep shit...you don't get much more de-pushed than Jericho. |
THE FIRST FUCKING UNDISPUTED CHAMPION...is now jobbing to the IC champion.
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Anyone actually find this gimmick amusing?
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Wonder if "Hulk Hogan" knows that wrestling is scripted.
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Jericho fucking sucks now....I blame WWE for booking him real shitty...but holy crap, it's the same shit week in and week out. He comes out, crowd goes nuts, he loses...crowd dies out...and he claims thats his last loss and things are going to change.
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For someone that's criticizing, you're pretty much saying the same thing everyone is too, ThugLife. :roll: You're basically saying what I did; Jericho has been buried lately[which I all but came out and said in my earlier post]. Original? Yes, indeed. I might've been saying basically the same things, but, it was on the same overall topic. Which is what we are supposed to do, right? Give your thoughts on the topic. It's pretty obvious to the viewers of WWE programming that Jericho has been buried in the credibility department. And I was simply stating it as it see it. Problem with that? Too bad. This is how it goes; someone creates a topic, people answer. Nevermind that my response was basically the same except for the wording[which wasn't the same as everyone else's]. Bottom line; you show me someone who doesn't agree with the MANY people who feel this way about Jericho's character. Most people do feel Jericho has been misused. I'm simply one of those fans. |
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I hate to say it boys, but Jericho is done. There is nothing Chris can do to convince Vince & Co. to put the title on him. WrestleMania X-8 drew in a PPV buyrate of 1.6, which was the lowest rated Mania since 13 (the all time low by the by), and since we know WWE will never blame the over promotion of Hulk Hogan as being a partial contributed, coupled with the fact that Stephanie McMahon and Triple H were Main Eventing (with Jericho has the side show) and we all know that anyone in the McMahon family is more over then god...so we are left with only one conclusion, Jericho ruined WrestleMania 18 (a wooping .58 lower then the year earlier).
Plus, honest to god, I don't think that Chris has the same passion he once had. I don't blame him, hell no one could. I notice it with Benoit and Guerrero after their title runs as well. Once you reach the top, I think they realised it wasn't for them. Not in terms of fans support, but more the backstage polotics which a flagship NEEDS to be involved with. It's sad, but I look at it like this, Jericho is still entertaining, he is still over with the fans, and no one can ever take away the fact that he was the man who unified the WCW and WWF Championships. Jericho will go down as one of the best ever, hell Ricky Steamboat only held the World Title once, and after that he too went back to fued over the TV and US titles...so don't worry, just sit back and enjoy one of the finest entertainers ever and know that polotics suck, but fans, not promoters make icons...except Hulk...that was Vince's doing. :shifty: |
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That was exactly what i was going to say. lol@your last line btw, olympic shitman, i do feel he's been mis-used, but not just KINDA mis-used, much worse than that. You wont being harsh enough on the WWE. |
I would like Jericho to either go to Smackdown or take a few months off personally. Perhaps come up with a gimmick change or just a tweak to his existing character. He is entertaining yet stale if that makes any sense at all.
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Very nice and once again KK, you show your ignorance and maturity level by insults. It's amazing how much further you stoop each time to take shots at me. First off, I'm no more "saying the same thing" as everyone else is that replies to this topic. Basically anyone that has watched Jericho since his WCW days can tell ya, he's being misused. Like I said earlier, I was simply calling it as I see it; Jericho is being misused. And I said "kinda de-pushed" because Jericho HAS won some in the last few months. However, his number of losses WAY outnumber his ratio of wins. Anyone with eyes can see Jericho is being held down. Each person is entitled to post whatever they want. So, I'm simply stating my opinion on the topic[which again, is what this forum is for, correct?]. If you don't like it, don't read. Hell, for all I care, ignore me. I could care less. I will not stop posting just because a few immature guys cannot accept the fact that I'm entitled to say what I want[even though most people do see it the same way as it relates to Jericho's character]....... |
You should talk about stooping. You have to lower yourself every time you backtrack on an argument.
"Kinda de-pushed" is basically another "basically confirmed" argument, in which you will try to argue that your version of the English language is more correct than the one everyone else is using, so you wrote right, and everyone else is wrong. |
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Ok, try to stay with me here for a sec; Where have I ONCE "backtracked"? Where? Not one time have I changed what I was saying. It seems as though the almighty Knight has to resort to ignorant assumptions and inaccurate accusations as opposed to showing me where I "backtracked" as he put it. Although in the past I have seemed contradictory at times, I haven't once changed what I've been saying in this topic. Hence, there's no "backtracking" being done. I said "kinda de-pushed" because Jericho has won SOME[meaning in the English language, he has won a few matches]. I still haven't changed that opinion, and for one, would LOVE to see you prove me wrong. Alas, you cannot. You are far too busy trying to find things to argue with me about and trying to think of another clever insult or perhaps another name to call me that you already haven't. And this is further proved each time Mr. KK gives me bad rep. I think outta the 5 red bars under my name, 4 of those are purely from KK. That is further proof that the guy cannot let things go and has the maturity level of a kid. So, please. Give me another name and then "debate" my logic by using your own opinion[which is NOT fact] as the base for the arguement. For someone that criticizes and all, you sure do alot of immature and ignorant things yourself. This is proved everytime I reply to a topic and right off[without taking time to let what I said register] you automatically reply and flame. As anyone here can clearly see, I haven't changed my initial opinion; Jericho is being misused. Show me ONE reply where I changed that opinion[as I didn't], there's your answer. Better wait though, you might call me a "whiny little cunt" or other choice intelligent names :roll: |
nah KK never says "cunt"
And Hulk Hogan is Heyman's GREATEST persona yet. But I didn't tell you. ;) |
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Yeah, and KK never argues with anyone either huh? Look at his pattern. He really couldn't find anything to intelligently "debate" me on or find anything to quote and argue about, so, he goes on rambling about how I "backtracked" when clearly I did not. He seems to like arguing as he did in the other topic about the RAW tournament[see his "debate" with Thug Life]. If not me, it would just be someone else he would be going around calling names like "fuckwit" or "morons" all in a pathetic attempt to make himself feel better about his own intelligence. Grow up KK. Why don't you try actually using FACTS instead of name-calling marathons to get your point across. It doesn't take an intelligent person to sit there and call others names..... |
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You're right. I can't argue with your logic. First I would have to find some.
And your shots at my maturity and calls to grow up are vaguely reminiscent of a 5th grade girl who thinks that because she's now menstruating, she's all grown up. Your cries of immaturaty, ironically, reek of immaturity. Especially since you almost ALWAYS have to redefine what you say, and get pissy and go after the folks who call you on it. |
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Ack.. fuckeded up... :rant:
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*starts You fucked up chant*
*starts you screwed matt chant* * Botches Lita chant* |
asdfgasdghabns dbadv kjabhsfd jkahdfk jahdbgkj abndfg asd
*botches spelling YESHUH* |
*Botches not posting*
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*botches botching*
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*Botches Spanish*
Orioles, Ahsley! |
*botches botching a botch*
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That was the botchingest Botch to ever botch a botch.
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Caramba
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*botches botching a botched botched botch*
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YES PLEASE JOIN
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I'll make you an admin.
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hopefully he won't botch joining.
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Before I die, I want to walk up to Chuck Norris and pull a knife on him. Just so he can karate kick me through a well placed brick/glass wall in slow motion.
Er wait, what's the original title of the topic? |
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*botch*
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Where the fuck is my song at Marcyo1?
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Join waht? And why would I botch it? Do I LOOK like Lita? :shifty:
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What is it?
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dbadsfbgandg
message board nigga |
More specifically, ho?
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there's gonna be lots of free porn./
That's all you need to know. |
Sounds hawwwwt. What kind?
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Whatever the <s>bitches assholes</s> members request. :y:
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heh
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I banned Tails..
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The newest member is Jesus H Christ
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Once again, you prove my point for me. You CANNOT find anything I supposedly "backtracked" on, therefore, that makes your logic ignorant[and also wrong]. If you look at your earlier post in which you said; Quote:
Bottom line, admit it, you fucked up. I replied based on what you said and not what you meant[as I can't read minds]. You say I "backtracked", but, couldn't give a concrete position to back your statement up with fact. That, technically, qualifies as "backtracking" too, does it not? |
OH has gone off the topic of botching. I demand he be banned.
Naw. I'm not gonna read that shite though. Keep claiming you never backtrack; you're the emperor, and everyone can see through your new clothes. |
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THAT'S NOT REALLY HULK HOGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's Carltio. Now Carltio, saying you're Hulk Hogan... That's not cool! |
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Funny you should mention that. If any mod or admin[or whatever] were to pinpoint where the topic went off it would be YOU who took it off. So, maybe you should be banned.....although that's a pretty pathetic attempt to avoid admitting you are wrong. Facts are facts. You say I backtrack. It should be simple enough, find the post. But, you can't. Hell, maybe the mods & admins should take a closer look at you, KK. You are the one who goes around instagating arguements and calling names[while managing to take the topic off it's course, damn, all that in one reply, good work jackass :y: ]. I've totally gotten past the point of dignifying an unfounded arguement with a reply. So, from here on, I won't reply to this topic. I think I've pretty much proved my point. But, to get back on topic; With Jericho's lose on Monday, it takes him further into the abyss that is jobber'sville. So, let me get this straight; Jericho is repeatedly put over as the first Undisputed Champion, yet, cannot win a match? Pathetic if you ask me. Just further proof that the WWE can screw up anything easy..... Jericho should've been the only 10 time champion by now and not HHH. |
Dude.
1) Try and grasp humour. Since this topic was clearly NOT about botching, one might presume that this was not intended as fact. 2) When you get called on your contradictions by over a dozen people, and still claim you don't backtrack, you are either a retard, a troll, or some whiny little bitch who can't admit he was wrong. In any event, the problem's yours, not mine. 3) With Jericho's "lose" on Monday, he is in the exact same place he's been for ages. He did not drop any further down, because there's nowhere for him to go. |
:lol: This is gettin' completely ridiculous as you are "backtracking" a bit more with each reply:
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The bottom line is this; To keep calling a "backtrack" you have to actually have proof backing you up. Which clearly, you don't have. You say I contradict myself? You seem to be doing a little contradicting of your own. You say I'm a "whiny bitch"? Again, this goes to your immature vocabulary of name-calling that proves my point further; you are immature. Instead of "debating" you are calling names and trying to pass it off as logic. Those two things are COMPLETELY seperate. The fact that you wanna keep this thing going shows exactly how pathetic you've sunk :n: |
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Olympic Hero, I don't think he meant backtracked in this topic, but in others you have been known to do it.
Secondly, you keep repeating the same arguement against Kane Knight without anything extra. You may as well just quote your other posts. Third, you backtracked! By saying you were not going to post in this thread anymore, and then replying to argue with KK, you have clearly backtracked. Now, and I would hate to cause another 3 paragraph reply in red and a HUGE font, but, stop being a whiney little bitch and shut up about it. |
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I hate to say it, but not only will you be attacked by him (As he fervently denies backtracking) but he will call you a KAne Knight Klone, and everything you say from now on will spur a rabid reaction caused by paranoia. If I even disagree with him in a thread, he explodes. So get ready for it to hit the fan. |
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First off, if having depth in your opinion qualifies as "backtracking" most everyone here is guilty of it. Every single time KK posts something it is simply a deragotory post in which he rambles about me "backtracking". He never lets it go and seemingly has some kinda grudge. Whatever the case is, he's the one that keeps things going with the mindset of a kid[going around calling names and such]. Basically every topic he says I "backtracked" on that he ever replied to was bullshit. I've never changed my views on anything I've EVER replied to and dunno why he continues to go around using it as the basis to "debate" me[which he doesn't do]. He simply calls names. That's the thing I was replying about. If I'm wrong on a topic, that's fine. But, in THIS topic, he's done nothing but whine about me "backtracking" when it's evident the guy has NO PROOF to back him up. Yet, two or three guys step in to defend him when he's clearly in the wrong. Great integrity level........ Secondly, I'm no more repeating myself than anyone else. I've stuck to my guns throughout this entire thing. Yet, people still find the need to flame me and call me "ignorant". And since you seem to be on the same illogical train of thought, it kinda makes you a clone. Try saying something original and not repeating what KK already said :roll: Thirdly, fuck no I did NOT backtrack. Why would I reply after I said I wouldn't? It's call defense pal. He's flaming for no good reason and keeping a dead topic going. He's basically beating a dead horse and not admitting he was wrong. My whole point in this topic has been simple; if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. However, I've stuck by what I said originally and haven't changed on it. How can that qualify as "backtracking"? Last, but, not least, the reason I reply in red large font is to be different, God forbid someone doesn't wanna be the exact same as everyone else :| Finally, replying to KK and James Steele; KK: You're starting to become like a repeating record. Calling names and keeping crap going all the time is getting old. If you put half the effort into posting as you do thinking of new names to call me, you might be a half-decent poster..... Steele: "Ignorant ass"? :lol: That's gotta be the lamest insult I've seen on the net. Clearly, you've been looking in the 3rd grade thesauras of cutdowns and decided to take everyone's else's side in this. Nice. Bottom line is this; I've not changed a word of my original post. And as far as "backtracking" in the past, what the HELL does that have to do with this topic?! NOTHING. So, please. Just admit you couldn't back yourself up with facts and move on.... |
YOU again. What the fuck?
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It's funny that you call me a "repating record" but repeat the same stuff over and over...Except when you're waffling on what you said.
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Oh, and I don't read your full posts, because they are long winded and boring. They usually say the same crap, over and over again.
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Ok let me first say that I'm not on anyone's side in this Bitchfest2005. After reviewing 3 pages of bitching I have concluded the following:
1) Olympic Hitman did not backtrck his argument in THIS thread, but Kane Knight's implications extend to other threads Mr Hitman, and proof of those can be made possible 2) Olympic Hitman is a hypocrite. He starts most of his threads w/ "And this is KK stooping to a lower level and insulting me blah fucking blah" If you are the better man Mr Hitman, then you'd simply ignore Kane Knight. 3) I don't know exactly what happened between you two in some other thread(and I really don't give a shit) but you guys both are articulate enough to have intelligent discussions with each other and everyone else here. If I wanted drama, I'd go to hang out with teenage girls(hot ones) So can we please just stop this pointless bitching??? |
Teenage girls are angst, not drama. :roll:
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Hold on let me RE-tract that statement...........teenage girls are angst.
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You know what this forum needs....code of honor
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No it doesn't.
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1) Posters must shake hands before and after each thread
2) No spamming a thread or having others spam for you 3) No causing harm to a moderator or having someone else harm a moderator Eh, these are the only ones that I can adapt from RoH to a forum....who gives a fuck.....blah blah blah....... :shifty: |
no outside spamming
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8) if this is your first bash thread, you have to......wait wrong list
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omg not outside spamng u noob lolz
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