Football Talk 2005-2006 (Soccer)
 

Ah yes, may aswell move to a new thread now :cool:

As i said in the other one though, i'm fairly pleased with Leicester's, we need a good start because most of them are against what i'd consider bottom half opposition. Quite a tough last month though and Southampton on the last day should be good, could well be things riding on that game aswell.

With any luck Sunderland will stay in the Premiership on goal difernece or something.

That is an extremely gay title

I know you're a Leicester fan and as such have no standards (:cool: ) but it's a woeful song.

Its a bit typical that Liverpool get the side who handed us our biggest defeat of the season, on the first day of the season.

Plus I miss the Arsenal game because of Reading :mad:

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho may have to re-structure his list of transfer targets if the club have to resolve their row over Frank Arnesen by selling Glen Johnson and Robert Huth to Tottenham.

Both England right-back Johnson and Germany centre-half Huth are now believed to be part of a cash-plus-player compensation package designed to end the feud before Friday's noon deadline.

Spurs, incensed by pictures of their suspended sporting director on Roman Abramovich's yacht this week, reacted by issuing a terse statement demanding that Chelsea reach a settlement by the deadline or face being the subject of another Premier League 'tapping-up' investigation.

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Oh dear, Mantle will not be happy :'(

wow ARSENAL IS looking good this year.

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:cool:

Man if we are fighting relegation;

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Going to be tough, although all the games look tough :'(

In true Frank Lebeouf style -

I don't care what happesn this season, because we won the European Cup.

:D

You can negative rep me now for being arrogant if you want... :shifty:

WOOOO opening day loss at arsenal.

We've got Norwich away on the last day :mad:

Southampton away, our last month is horrible though, also have to play Palace and Norwich then.

BELIEVE IT BABY

Shut the fuck up

lol Ferret acting like it's me in his account ehh

way to make zero mention of the Argentina and Germany games there

or the 1-0 against Uruguay in 2001

Was 3 seperate posts really necessary there?

And i'd guess it's because you wouldn't be expected to beat Germany and Argentina, and did quite well against both. It already mentions a 3-0 defeat to Uruguay, so the 1-0 loss wouldn't look so bad.

Anyway, quite a few links over the weekend:

Robert Green or Ian Walker to Pompey, Robinho to Arsenal for £14m and Real Madrid are meant to have offered £20m plus Owen and Solari for Lampard, which has been rejected.

Well, after the negativity I had last season, I am quietly optimistic that we can challenge.....with the right signings.

Yes actually, they were :cool:

Anyway, the point you're missing is that it makes no mention the games against Germany and Argentina that we did very well in, also that we beat Uruguay 1-0

John Aloisi is the fucking man...another reason Farina should be given the arse (good link to that site Gooner). That fucking useless idiot hasn't given Aloisi a chance to shine in the seniors for years even though the bloke ALWAYS turned up when asked to. He is a fucking legend and has shown why, yet I bet that useless tosser Farina will still not select him for the qualifiers and get rid of Dads Army (all the old cunts Vidmar, Muscat etc) up the back. And once more we will fail to qualify for the World Cup. At least then I guess he will finally get the arse.

RBF, I think Aloisi's move to Panathinaikos is a good one. Whilst playing in Spain was obviously excellent (one of the best leagues) Osasuna were hardly going to compete in Champions League, UEFA Cup etc. With Panathinaikos he should be playing Champions League football every year (UEFA Cup at the very least) and should be a key player for them. If that useless cunt Farina selects him for the November play-off, he will be playing Champions League football leading up to it, which will be excellent for Australia as he will be playing regularly and (hopefully) killing it. :y:

Oh, i didn't know you'd beaten Uruguay. I thought you wanted him out, but they wouldn't put decent results on a banner for a website that's purpose is to get him out anyway.

Speaking of players going to Greece aswell, it looks like Theo could be going back to PAOK :'(

:(

Farina is a bit useless, but he doesn't get near enough credit, really. He's made a few fuck-ups with selections, and he's very reluctant to change our aging defence but fuck, you wouldn't dream of the performances Australia had against Argentina and Germany even 4 years ago.

The point I was making was, the team has improved so much since Farina took over (I think from Blanco, about 5 years ago), and he's getting no credit for it.

Don't know if anyone mentioned it earlier, but Angelos Basinas looks to have signed with Birmingham City.

Also Wengerland, I think it's pretty much confirmed the Prince is going back to his old club to finish off his career. :love: Zagorakis is a champion

Gooner, didn't Farina take the gig after Venables and the 2-2 with Iran (:'()in 97? He's achieved some ok results but mate, in football if you fail to qualify for the World Cup once (or anything for that matter) as a manager/coach, then 99% of the time you would get the arse no questions asked. Why the fuck he is still there I have no idea. Time for someone new...a foreign coach who will select the right players and not just cos they're his mates :roll:

Maybe the fact Australia hasn't qualified for the world cup in 32 years has something to do with it.

I'm not sure, I seem to remember Blanco taking the Olyroos in 2000, maybe that was just a one tournament thing or something

Last I saw Basinas' club told Birmingham to fuck off since they offered something like £250k for him (he's in the last year of his contract but still :| talk about trying to steal one on the cheap)

we get to relegate you sohttp://tpww.net/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif

naa they'll be relegated long before then :(

Can't even fucken remember. Ah well we'll still go and get shitfaced up in Sydney and light flares, win or lose. We'll lose though.

Stellios Giannakopoulos to Liverpool? Anyone heard anything about this?

Yeah, supposedly we've made an offer of 1.7 million euros and a two year contract.

Basinas would be a top signing, though i'd keep Darren Carter personally. Basinas and Muzzy would be a good pairing though, both very creative, with Basinas sitting deeper and Muzzy making forward runs from deep.

Forgot to mention the confederations cup semi yesterday, it was a pretty good game and finished 3-2 to Brazil. Mexico/Argentina is on at the minute but no score as of yet.

Damn i missed that game, just watching the Mexico game on channel 5.

I hope this is the only time I do hear that.

I've been hearing that since they won the European cup.

Shithouse game, lots of errors. 0-0 at end of normal time and 1-1 at the end of extra time (2 scrappy goals) but Argentina won 6-5 on penalties. So Brazil-Argentina final...

Can't believe how tough Arsenal's opening schedule is

Who the fuck is Darren Carter?

No, I am no fucking happy, they are both stars of the future, we need to keep them both.

Huth pushing Adriano over was great :cool:

Spurs accepted something like £8m in compensation for Arnesen, with no players involved.

That second confederations cup semi was pretty terrible, yeah :(

Can someone please explain to me why we are going to sell Darren Carter to the baggies. He was looking good last season and was definetly our best player in the 2 derby games against Villa, I cant help but sense another Andy Johnson scenario here.

Sounds explosive... :meh:

AHAHAHAH Gooner...apparently later today (1:30am here now so later this morning) Football Federation Australia are gonna have a press conference saying they've given Farina the arse! :D

I think that's a bad decision, with the world cup qualifier and all.

Who the fuck would take over...Graham Arnold? :shudder: - fucking Johnny Warren had to go and die :mad:

Berti Vogts is available.

As is Claudio Ranieri :cool:

Bobby Robson :cool:

AHAHAHAHAHAHA HE'S GONE! FUCK OFF WANKER!!!!!!!!!

Guys I don't give a fuck if it's 5 months off from the Play-off, ANYONE is better than that shit cunt. We had NO CHANCE whatsoever with him in charge, with the pathetic line-up he put out. I hope to god they replace him with someone decent ie no fucken Australian coach except Ron Smith, who apparently is an excellent coach AND pretty much trained every member of the team when they were young at some stage, so they have enormous respect for him.

Fuck off Frank, just fuck off idiot. Now we have half a chance of making the Cup...which is better than none at all :D

Oh yeah Gooner u do have a point, if Arnold is appointed I'll shoot the cunt myself.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/img/sport...k_farina_a.jpg
Farina steps down as Socceroos coach


18:21 AEST Wed Jun 29 2005
AAP
Frank Farina has stepped down as Australian soccer coach.

The decision ends Farina's six years as head coach of the Socceroos.

He will be replaced on an interim basis by national technical manager Ron Smith.

Farina said he did not want uncertainty about his role to impact on the team.

"Ever increasing speculation on my position is not something that I want to see affect the performance of the team and the potential for that happening has led to this announcement," he said in a statement.

"We have the players and the backing to get us to the World Cup and no single element of our approach should be allowed to undermine that."

<SCRIPT language=javascript type=text/javascript>spac_writeAd('/SITE=NEWS/AREA=SPORT/LOC=TOP/AAMSZ=MEDIUM')</SCRIPT><SCRIPT src="http://direct.ninemsn.com.au/jnserver/SITE=NEWS/AREA=SPORT/LOC=TOP/AAMSZ=MEDIUM/PAGEID=1120034923581/ACC_RANDOM=1120034925384?"></SCRIPT><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>http://ads.ninemsn.com.au/ads/rich/common/ad21.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD bgColor=#666666></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><NOSCRIPT>http://direct.ninemsn.com.au/scripts...P/AAMSZ=MEDIUM</NOSCRIPT>Football Federation Australia chairman Frank Lowy paid tribute to Farina.

"Frank Farina has been a dedicated coach over the past six years who has given his all for Australian football and we wish him well with his future endeavours," Lowy said.

"However it is important to now move on and focus on the World Cup campaign.

"Our responsibility is to do everything possible to ensure that Australia will be competing in Germany in 2006.

"We have said that we would be leaving no stone unturned to qualify for the World Cup."

Calls for Farina to stand down escalated after the Socceroos left this month's Confederations Cup winless.

The team lost all three games and conceded 10 goals in the process, losing 4-3 to host Germany and 4-2 to Argentina before being humbled 2-0 by Tunisia.

FFA chief executive John O'Neill had made it clear he expected a good performance from Australia at the tournament.

"We are treating the tournament as a World Cup trial, we're not going there to make up the numbers," O'Neill said prior to the Confederations Cup.

"We'd certainly be keen to get past the first round, and Frank Farina shares our objective of making the semi-finals."

Farina has had an uneasy relationship with O'Neill since he joined the FFA in February 2004.

It reached a head in May when O'Neill called for Farina to seek anger management counselling following the coach's run-in with SBS television reporter Andrew Orsatti after a friendly match with Iraq in Sydney.

Farina's national coaching record included highs of beating England in a friendly 3-1 in 2003 and guiding the Socceroos to third in the Confederations Cup in 2001.

That tournament included victories over heavyweights Brazil, France and Mexico.

But Farina failed in the major task of getting the national team through to the 2002 World Cup.

Up 1-0 after the first leg play-off match against Uruguay at the MCG, the Australians faltered badly in the return match, going down to the South Americans 3-0 in Montevideo.

Many questioned Farina's tactics after the loss.

He also presided over the national team when it hit"rock bottom" in July 2002 after losing to New Zealand in the Oceania Nations Cup (ONC) final.

Last year the Socceroos also posted a shock 2-2 draw against the Solomon Islands in an ONC match.

Speaking on a video link-up from Frankfurt, Germany, Lowy said there was no debate in reaching agreement with Farina.

But ideally, he would have liked Farina to have departed sooner.

"If the change, if any, would have happened 12 months ago I think we would have been better off. But given the history of football, things happen when they happen.

"It's happened now and it should not diminish our opportunity to go to Germany."

Lowy said there was no fixed deadline to appoint the new head coach.

lol I couldn't read all that, I got distracted by the Jetstar ad

:roll:

Frank is gone, u cunt, GONE!

that's all you needed to say

I've said it about 400000 times this past 2 months :p

Anyway Venables is definately not taking up the gig...fuck just throw a heap of cash to some South American cunt who can do something with our defence and make it hold out over 2 legs. Attack is fine it's just the fucken defence that needs shaking up. Once that's sorted we're a good chance.

We had him on loan last season, good player. Birmingham are daft for not playing him.

Zola has retired, by far the best player I have seen play live, fucking quality, so many memories.

Kezman for the Pachichi :'(

Unless I'm mistaken that leaves Chelski with 2 strikers. Oh, and Carlton Cole.

One striker, Eidur Gudjohnsen plays centre midfield.

We are gunna get Gilardino most likely.

Get Andy Johnson. Man, I'd cry with tears of joy if that happened.

We have enough money to get someone half decent thank you very much.

Also, the Sun linked us with RvN the other day.

Gilardino wants to go to AC Milan and AC Milan want him.

Top footballers still prefer going to the prestigious clubs over Chelsea.

Yes, but top footballers also care too much about money, I bet he comes to us.

I'd be surprised, he said a while ago he would only go to AC Milan, and Milan have made him their top priority for the summer.

Well, prepared to be suprised, if we give Milan Crespo on loan for another season as rumoured, then I bet we get Gilardino, we will pay more then Milan for him for starters and give him a bigger wage, he will come.

Yeah, like E'too left Barcelona, like Shevchenko and Adriano left the Milan clubs.

Eto'o *, seriously ECG, you need to learn how to spell players names. They are all at really big clubs already, Parma are nothing comared to us, that is the obvious difference.

Milan are a bigger club though, and they're after Gilardino. So if it's between choosing more money or playing for a famous club, maybe Gilardino will be like the rest of them and go to Milan.

Fernando Torres too. Snubbed the Blues. Not having much luck getting a striker.

Not sure if you are right about Torres. And I know Milan are a bigger club, but he isn't currently there so he won't know what he is missing out on really. The players you mentioned are already at big clubs, he isn't.

Saying that your boyfriend Carvalho didn't want to come to us, he wanted to go to Madrid and I honestly don't think he'd have come if we didn't have Jose but still tried to sign him.

Apparently Parma are getting new owners so he won't be going anywhere for the time being.

I bet he is, new owners or not, it will be a few years before they are potential Champions of Europe. He will wanna win the big stuff and not want to wait round.

I dunno, these Italian lads are notoriously loyal to their teams. Guy's like Nesta, Cannavaro, Totti, Del Piero have hung around at their first clubs for season after season no matter what. Del Piero and Totti have been at their clubs their whole career, for instance, and Nesta only moved because Lazio had horrible financial problems. It still happens there that talented homegrown players stay at their clubs for as long as possible.

Lots of Italians move between Italian clubs too though, you just picked out a few. And anyone at Milan or Juventus would be loyal to their team, they are the to biggest teams in Italy. Maldini and Baresi would have never played their whole career at one team if it wasn't one of the biggest in the world. I'd like to see those players stay at their clubs if they never won anything, even Roma were good for a couple of seasons, Le Tissier has proven his loyalty much better then any of the players you mentions

I'm just saying I don't think it's automatic that Gilardino will want to leave Parma immediately. That's my point: Italian players don't seem in a hurry to leave their clubs, and they don't go abroad too often either, compared to other nationalities. Especially the top Italians.

I'd be surprised to see Gilardino at Chelsea next season.

Fair enough, I am sure he will come though, we'll see.

But even if we didn't get him we will obviously get someone shit hot like Tevez or something, so in answer to what MMM said, we will obviously have enough strikers next season. Not to mention Robben can play there, if we got Wright-Phillips or Joaquin then we could mix it up a little :cool:

If Lampard's deflected shots start going wide instead of in, you're fucked.

As long as Duff, Cole, Robben and Drogba keep diving then he will notch up penalties, Huth can handle the free kicks (he scored for Germany yesterday but it weren't a free kick :cool: :cool: :cool: ) and Terry has corners covered.

Thing is people will now watch Lampard closer after the amount he notched up this season, I hope he starts shooting less and playing it out wide more. I swear he fucks up about 5 long shots for everyone he scores, not that I am complaining.

also, glazer's sons were at old trafford tonight, and ended up barricaded in. Ended up having to get escorted out in a police van for their own safety.

Wow, you little pussies, I bet none of them actually get harmed.

Robert :love:

Also Adriano is the best striker out there at the moment by a mile.

Reports today seem to indicate that Parma have priced Milan out of a bid for Gilardino. That plus Parma's crippling debts seem to indicate Chelsea might be more likely than seemed previously.

I wouldn't. He has been linked with moves from Parma for years now. It has to happen sometime.

Seriously, Man United supporters club "fans" are a bunch of wankers. The Glazers haven't even been in the door 5 minutes and these tosspots are doing eveything they can to ruin our legacy. Why the fuck would you want us kicked out of Europe. I'm not happy the Glazers bought us but the fact is that they did. Might as well see what their plans are before we all start moaning and bitching.

And I have already invested money into FC United so it's easy to back both.

-Middlesbrough's new signing Emanuel Pogatetz could be ruled out of the club's UEFA Cup challenge after he was sent off playing for former club Spartak Moscow.

Pogatetz, on loan at Spartak from Bayer Leverkusen, was dismissed in his final game in Russia for a tackle on a Shikkin Yaroslavl player which resulted in his opponent suffering a double fracture of his leg.

The Russian Football Association on Thursday handed out a 24-week ban for Pogatetz as punishment.

The Premier League is not obliged to enforce the ban in England but UEFA may do so, ruling him out of Boro's European games. :rofl:

-Dwight Yorke revealed he is ready to end his career in Australia on the day he officially signed for new club Sydney FC.

The former Manchester United, Aston Villa, Blackburn and Birmingham striker is Sydney's marquee player, with rules for the inaugural A-League allowing the eight clubs to sign one star name above the salary cap of £600,000. :rofl:

-The rule where referees can move a freekick forward an extra 10 yards for dissent etc has been scrapped :'(

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/...&channel=italy



Gilardino deal not dead



Alberto Gilardino could yet complete his move to Milan, with the Rossoneri vice-president Adriano Galliani now playing down comments made by Silvio Berlusconi that appeared to signal the end of their pursuit of the Parma man.

Gilardino's exit from Gialloblu was anticipated after they avoided relegation to Serie B on the last day of the Italian season, with the club mired in financial troubles.

The 22-year-old is one of Italy's most feared strikers despite his tender age and, despite strong interest from Premiership champions Chelsea, had been widely expected to move to San Siro.

However the Italian prime minister, and Milan supremo, had insisted that the prospective new owners of Parma would not be inclined to let the sensational striker depart, and in any case were demanding too high a transfer fee for their attacking talisman.

To muddy the waters further Rossoneri vice-president Galliani has now insisted that Berlusconi's comments were merely his interpretation of the situation, and that Parma's new owners may well be open to selling their star hit-man.

"I've spoken with Berlusconi, who cleared up the sense of Friday's declaration," Galliani told Gazzetta dello Sport.

"Effectively Gilardino costs too much, but what the president said with reference to the next possible Parma owners keeping the striker, it's only his intuition and not an official position of which he knows.

"So Berlusconi doesn't know that Parma's next officials are against Gilardino's sale."

Galliani's comments appear to indicate that Milan are not content to drop their interest in the Italian international, particularly given Chelsea's ability to match any asking price. The Rossoneri remain in pole position for his signature given that Gilardino has previously indicated that his preference is to remain in Italy with Carlo Ancelotti's side.

thank God.

I couldn't agree more :y:

And LOL at their plans to buy the club off Glazer in the future. Yeah I'm sure thats going to happen.