LMAO @ The "Power" of Hassan (Yes, another thread about him...)
 

Ok, anyone who's read my posts in the past couple of months know I have slowly turned into a mark for Muhammad Hassan with all the "<b>ALEEYEEEEE...</b>" posts and all of that.

Recently, my antics got me into a heated argument in the blogosphere because a wrestling-head with a little notoriety (i.e., his blog posts get like 30 replies on general principle) got exposed by me for falling for the Hassan "trap". On a review of the (ultimately crappy) Great American Bash, he was ranting about the "terrorists" and how UPN should just go ahead and kill off SmackDown because of it.

It's one thing to think Hassan sucks in the ring and on the mic (which, for the most part, he does, but that's beside the point), but it always... always amuses me to see someone call Hassan lame because he's a "terrorist character". When I go back on them, and point this out (i.e. ask them how they knew the men and black were "terrorists"), they get mad and point the finger back at me. And since on blogs, I post in a Rock ripoff gimmick in which I refer to myself in the 3rd person for S&G, it makes me an easy target for half-witty barbs. No matter how much of a "smart mark" someone is, when it comes to Hassan, at least one person will bring up "oh, well there's a war going on, it's insensitive"... and all I think of is how if it were JBL, HHH, or the Undertaker with the "masked men", it wouldn't even be a thought.

It is then that I realize how great a character this Hassan was. Sucked on paper, sucked in theory, great in execution. If only he had a more interesting wrestling moveset/finisher instead of "WWE Standard" (punch, kick, Irish Whip, clothesline, Complete Shot). Then again, if he did, he'd probably get more people marking out for him...

After all, what WAS it about an otherwise write-off of a midcard wrestler that spawned so much response and YTMND sites? The theme music? I still can't figure it out. Because like Eugene, I wasn't sold on Hassan immediately. Whatever it is, WWE needs to bottle it and use it on more of their midcarders.

I think he's good on the mic....except his squeks

I won't miss Hassan. That gimmick is old anyway, they shoulda kept it buried when the Iron Sheik retired. It was bad enough when they had Sgt. Slaughter turn heel during the first Gulf War. And beside the point, if you haven't noticed, crowds don't really get into the USA!! chant like they did back in the 80's.

I'd rather see Hacksaw Jim Duggan comeback that that lame ass Hassan character.

All I can say is to WWE is, good luck if you're planning to repackage this guy. They've probably ruined his career. Davari had all the talent anyway.

^^^^ LMFAO!!

This is what I was talking about.

Hassan does not = Sheik (except for the lame, predictable use of the Camel Clutch) and he DEFINITELY doesn't = "Iraq RULEZ" Slaughter during the first Gulf War. He's AMERICAN, and stresses that all the time (unlike Sheik, who flew the Iranian flag with pride). He has never mentioned Iraq.

and if you didn't see... ANY time Daivari got on the mic, or Hassan started getting in extra whine mode, or any time someone fought them, there were a ton of "USA!!" chants. Ditto for any time Rene Dupree (or when they were around, La Resistance) was in the ring.

THE POWER OF HASSAN IN ACTION!

Anyone who says Hassan sucks on the mic or in the ring is a fucking idiot.

You're getting caught up in the details, Batsu. Just because they never outright said that Hassan supports terrorists or assigned him to a nationality like Sheik doesn't mean the implications are very much the same. Regardless of the fact that the Hassan character was supposed to be American, the gimmick was still very anti-US, considering he lambasted the American culture, attacked the American military, and the American way of life in practically every one of his promos, which puts him in the same boat as Sheik and Slaughter and Volkoff and Team Canada and a thousand gimmicks before him.

Whether it's a Muslim or a Russian or a German or a Frenchman, the "evil ethnic guy who hates Americans" gimmick is played out, racially motivated, and considering the time we live in, in extremely poor taste to begin with.

The "Power of Hassan" has a name. It's called 'cheap heat.'

Hassan sucks on the mic and in the ring. His matches are boring and his promos are predictable. There's really not much more to it.

Yes, if the American way is discrimination, then he attacked it. If prejudice and racism are your ideals, then he probably offended you. If you're wearing a fucking white Sheet, HAssan probably seems un-American.

Don't even start in on the terroristm shit.

Seriously, this is some McCarthyist shit going on here. Loyalty oaths, anyone?

Almost at 70000 posts Kane. You're the bomb and dont let anybody tell you you're not

When did he say he hated americans?

All I heard was "I'm american too!"

Everytime KK gets a bj, he posts.

So he's behind, actually. :-\

Didn't you all know? If you support the Hassan character, you're a terrorist. Dem good ole tractor boahs down on tha farm don't take kind-like to all of that thar terrorism.

Seriously though, he's great. I'm not crazy about the character, because it doesn't appeal to me. People take shit WAY too seriously. Blew it all of of proportion.

I'd kill to see him again though, in any gimmick. I liked him in and out of ring.

Everytime he gives one???????? Oh ok

The gimmick's un-American because it more or less says all Americans are racists. The fact that you're calling me a racist because I don't like a gimmick that calls me a racist doesn't make any sense.

The brilliance of the Hassan gimmick is all of the implications they used to push the gimmick, without coming right out and saying that Hassan was a 'terrorist'. Never once did he draw attention to the fact that he might be affiliated with terrorism and every single week, idiotic fans would come out and label the character. He also came out and said that he was infact from America but hated the way he was being treated, yet every week the morons in the crowd would chant USA. It really exposed the ignorance of American citizens.

I hate people that take the implications for more than what they are. Only when you take them at face value do you really realize how brilliant the gimmick actually is.

The gimmick more or less says that Arab Americans have been the victims of racism since 9-11. The fact that you would even imply that it might support terrorism, or that all Americans are racist, is racist in and of itself. MEthinks thou doth protest too much?

Why are you so quick to jump on the notion that you're being called a racist? Probably the same reason you believe it supports terrorism. You're one of the bigoted fucks it insults.

Or you're too fucking sensitive, and should not be allowed near the internet or your TV. I dunno.

Hmmm...Idiotic fans labelling the character?

"He's a reeeeeal nowhere man..."

Hassan blows in the ring and on the mic, anyone who doesn't think like me is an idiot. :roll:

Monster Thickburger does not smell like donkey shit neither. Hassan does suck but not as much a KK

There are not, nor has there ever been TONS of USA chants my misguided friend, unless you count Hogan's run ins. Sure they were audible, but they aren't anything to jump up and down about. They aren't anything near the USA chants that were heard in the 80's. You're REALLY wrong about Dupree and La Resistance, if anything they had some heat, but not because of their characters, it's because they had a lame ass gimmick and the fans knew it.

And your reading comprehension must be lacking, because I in no way said Hassan was anything like the Iron Sheik, I am saying the America hating Arab has been done to death, and should've been laid to rest when the Sheik retired.

Slaughter is American?!?!?! WOW thanks for pointing that out!!!!

No, fuckwit. Hassan is AMERICAN. Hence he goes on to say that he proclaims it frequently. Does Slaughter? No? Critical thinking=good.

Wow, let's get all testy over nothing. If his puntuation was a little better maybe I wouldn't have misread it. Anyhow, I don't ever remeber the Hassan character saying he was American. Hassan is Italian-American, fuckwit.

Hassan=Bathroom Break

Hassan is Arab-American, fuckwit. That makes him AMERICAN.

The Hassan Character has never been stated to be Itallian in the least, and he DOES remind us that he is an American. Thanks for playing though. :wave:

And I didn't really get testy, I just think you're a moron for getting all sarcastic with the high ground when a little bit of thought would have saved you from looking like an illiterate fuck. :)

E THUG strikes again

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*Drive by sodomy*

Noobs like you make me look like a "POSTING GOD!"

As I remember it, and I'm sure this goes for almost everyone here, Hassan refered to himself as an Arab-AMERICAN in almost every promo.

And IN REAL LIFE he is Italian American, not in character. Fuckwit.

you beat me to it KK. i think this guy is playing WWE "the home game".

kane just found a life partner

You are a posting God. ;)

Just don't let the other E-Thugs know I said that.

And I live in a state where I can make it legal. :D So?

Jealous that nobody wants to E-Thug your ass? :o

jealous?

:nono:

thats rich

Wow. We really DO think alike.

Wow, you pick one sentence out of of a post and you somehow think that puts you on some kind of higher ground? :lol: :lol:

Shut the fuck up and begone asswipe.

:lol:

No shit Sherlock, that's what i was saying.

Well, actually, I've picked much more than one sentence out of any of your posts thus far, but I won't let that stop you from your little fantasy world. :)

And I CERTAINLY won't point out the hypocrisy of that complaint. :)

you can neg rep me all you want. go ahead and call me a fag again.

doesn't bother me.

no matter what, you'll still be a little donkey shit smelling jealous bitch.
















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did you read my post last night? "THE GREATEST POST OF ALL TIME"
THAT POST WAS FOR FAGS LIKE YOU. sorry kane i know you dont like the fag word

Hold up...

Someone's confusing the real world and the wrestling world.

Hassan is the CHARACTER. When you insist that he's never been identified as American, you are wrong. When you insist that HASSAN is Itallian American (By the way, the wrestler who PLAYS Hassan is itallian and...Shock...ARAB...But American nontheless) , you are wrong. Mark Caporelli, or however you spell his last name, is Itallian American, but there's no indication that Hassan is.

Please, don't complain that other people don't get them if you're not specific. Especially after you chastised Batsu for what you claim was a similar offense.

I say fag and faggot all the time.

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And Gay, just in case anyone's wondering...

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500 there.

you might reach 70000 before the night is over

Do you even know what the hell you were saying?

You stated that "Hassan" is Italian, impling his in-ring character (Which he isn't). Now, if you would of said that Mark Mangus is Italian, it would of made more sense. But you didn't and you still made yourself look like a slapnut.

I find it funny that you're keeping count.

Not difficult work. Odds are he's just backtracking anyway.

damn you KK, beat me to the punch again. my fag ass computer is running like shit (thanks to me downloading 4 movies at once).

and i thought his name was mark magnus? i could be wrong.

Apparently, both are correct, and Caporelli is his BIRTH name.

Stage names are common in entertainment.

nick cage for example.

Charlie/Martin Sheen.

Whoopi Goldberg.

Freddie Mercury.

Prince.

wow. the slapnuts in here got real quiet very quickly.

does it bother you that you're on Kanes nuts?

nice shot tough guy. i thought you were already used to getting tagged by two guys at once.

does he shave them or just let them grow? come on seventy let me know

Since they're really tiny, he probably didn't notice.

do you ever wonder why you only have 44 posts, yet have over 250 neg reps?

i think you need to need to leave the computer and actually spend 5 minutes breathing fresh air. might work for ya.

you're not on roids are you Kane? that stuff isnt good for ya

im not in it for reps. remember Kane roids kill! ask mr. perfecr, rick rude, davey boy. you dont want to end up like them

Nope. Just hung like a girl.

Just in it to be a sad pathetic wanker. That's okay.

i said it in the summerslam topic and i'll say it here. you are a fucking piece of shit.

someone ban this cocksucker.

easy now, hold on tight. Kanes nuts cant hold much

Keep him aaround. Someone eneds to make M.Banana look cool

hey im just trying to stop Kane from making a Hawk like mistake.
vote for KINGLACOSTE for post of the year

:lol:

Trying pretty hard to be funny, eh?

I really have nothing to say about this topic, other than Kane Knight seems to be owning you kinglacoste, and to me reading it all made me laugh after a shitty day of work....thank you.

MOVE OVER SEVENTY, SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO BE ON KANES NUTS

^^^^

Well come on....look at them.

Finally coping with your lateny sexuality issues?

talk shit about any other dead wrestler if you want. leave "hawk" out of this shit.

that just fucking personal.

what single post makes you so fucking wonderful?

YOU'RE A STUPID FAG! PERSONAL? WERE YOU ON HIS NUTS TOO?

YOU DIDNT GET A CHANCE TO READ MY "WHY ARE YOU GUYS SUCH FAGS?" POST LAST NIGHT?

...thus proving my point.

No, he's American. He WAS BORN IN AMERICA

and someone's getting banned in a few minutes for spamming this thread

I'll help you out here so you don't look like such an asshole:

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Nothing stupid about him. ;)

I gave it three Yawns up.

what post is he bitching about now?

Some thread where he ranted on people for watching wrestling.

Got closed because he was being an idiot. Moreso than this thread.

come on kane, it wasnt about people. it was about you.

Basically. I didn't like Hassan at first because I thought WWE was going to make him go the Sheik route, but after a while and a million hilarious "ALAAAAAY..."s interrupting segments, Hassan = Gold.

and man, this thread ballooned.

back on topic..... IMHO i think the ultimate and entire blame for the direction of Hassan's character should go completely to WWE "we get paid too much damn money to supposedly be" Creative. They are the dumbasses who probably ruined this man's career. I also blame them for a lot of the other stupid shit that has been shown on both RAW and Smackdown! lately INCLUDING that damn whatever the fuck that is on the side of Jillian Hall's face :rant: :shifty: :wtf: :mad: :foc:

Sorry, didn't pay enough attention to your ranting.

oh im sure you did

k

No one expected the whole fan base to be able to see through all the remarks Hassan made and realize that he is an American showing sympathy for his ethnic background. Most fans interpreted his remarks as an attack on America, so they immediately turned "patriotic" and gave him heat. Though the premise of the gimmick is that he's American, fans can't comprehend that. Once Hassan indirectly labelled Americans as racist, that lit a fire; and Hassan was labelled Anti-American.

Was Hassan's gimmick really Anti-American? No, but was the gimmick intended to garner "patriot" heat? Yes, and that's why his gimmick is thrown into the mix with the other Anti-American gimmicks even though it had a more meaningful premise that most of us were able to see through.

Sympathy for the devil.

I understand why people think this, but I neither respect nor condone it.

The smarter smarks were able to see through Hassan's promos to what he was really talking about. That's why I'm a mark for him now. At first I couldn't care less about what I had thought was a stale and used-up gimmick. But this time around, like I've always said, he exposed just how hypocritical and idiotic the marks can be. After stating to the crowd that he was American, he had Daivari speak on the mic in Farsi, and USA! chants were defeaning. That was on the unaired promo on WWE.com, if anyone remembers that. If you haven't watched it, WATCH IT!!!

Oh, by the way, his stage (credited) name was the name he used in OVW: Mark Magnus. His real name, his birth name, is Mark Copani. He's Italian-American in real life, Arab-American in his gimmick. Hope that clears everything up. Sources: IMDB.com and ObsessedWithWrestling.com. Thanks. :)

Copani. Sorry, Fucked that up. I'm dyslexic, and associate things orally. Sadly, that only works if I first learn it CORRECT.

Also, numerous people have pointed out that while he's half itallian, he's also half arab.

I'm here to state a fact that has been overlooked, as of the first page of this thread.

Monster Thickburger=Abortion waiting to happen

At least he's got high aspirations.

Yep. He was born in Jordan.

I thought he was an awesome heel whom I loved to hate. I was pissed when I heard they were killing off the charecter. who am I going to love to hate? wwe fans, (from the beginning of time) will chant usa to anyone who isn't speaking english. it is a custom. people did it when the bullshits (volkoff and zuchoff) would sing the russian anthem. it wasn't personal aginst Hassan, we are just reacting how we have been instructed to for so long.

JORDON! DAMMIT!

I couldn't remember where. Jordan was one of my guesses.