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Yashamaga 01-21-2004 08:22 PM

Jagr traded to the Rangers
 
I don't think it's confirmed yet, but many radio stations are reporting that the deal is close to being sealed.

Apparently it looks like Jagr for Nedved, Barnaby, and Lundmark.

......


there goes his career right down the drain. :-\ :|

Jesus Shuttlesworth 01-21-2004 08:23 PM

I watched a little of the game last night and I don't really know much about hockey but I can just tell the Rangers suck

Their was like 3 people at the game haha

Loose Cannon 01-21-2004 08:26 PM

His career has been going downhill ever since he was traded from the Pens

Yashamaga 01-21-2004 08:26 PM

yeah

we outscored 9-2 in the last 2 games

MoRcHeEbA 01-21-2004 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
His career has been going downhill ever since he was traded from the Pens


MoRcHeEbA 01-21-2004 08:29 PM

I don't think he's even had a good year in washington has he?

Loose Cannon 01-21-2004 08:31 PM

Nope. Jagr was(is) my favorite player in the NHL and he was the reason I started watching hockey and liking the Pens back in the early 90's. Too bad the Pens couldn't get him back. Lemuiex and Jagr together again. :y:

Heyman 01-21-2004 08:33 PM

A few years ago - Who woulda thunk that a team with BOTH Lindros and Jagr wouldn't be such a big deal?

MoRcHeEbA 01-21-2004 08:33 PM

Jagr should do better in New York anyways he'll have better linemates. I haven't heard anything about it yet though.. Isn't this the same rumor from last summer though same guys are involved.

Heyman 01-21-2004 08:35 PM

Atleast Jagr may not go to Detroit anymore.

THAT would've been scary.

MoRcHeEbA 01-21-2004 08:35 PM

im still laughing over lindros's lucky punch that broke thorntons cheekbone

Yashamaga 01-21-2004 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRcHeEbA
im still laughing over lindros's lucky punch that broke thorntons cheekbone

:'(

Lindros sucks. he'll get his soon...again.

and joe is the man/tough and he's gonna have surgery tommorow morning but he'll be in the lineup a game or 2 after that.

Arashi Kage 01-21-2004 08:43 PM

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/...sis_jagr_i.jpg

Not Jagr

http://www.hockeymidgetdrummond.com/...mir%20jagr.jpg

That's Jagr

He was finished as soon as he cut his hair. Although he did do well with the Pens for a while with short hair.

asphyXy 01-21-2004 08:47 PM

<font color=969696>I don't see it confirmed anywhere. If this trade did happen, I am going to slice Glen Sather's neck.</font>

samichna 01-21-2004 08:48 PM

Hasn't been confirmed.

The Outlaw 01-21-2004 10:22 PM

Haha yeah they suck

But did anyone see Lindros punk Thornton out? :lol:

-edit- Obviously cheeba did. :cool:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 01-21-2004 10:37 PM

I saw it.....it didnt even look like that good of a punch but I guess it was because Thronton got ****ed up

YOUR Hero 01-21-2004 10:39 PM

Lindros was one hell of a tough bastard in junior. Don't underestimate his fighting skills.

Sather is rumoured to be on his way out in New York, so this trade isn't as close as done as speculated.

The Outlaw 01-21-2004 10:46 PM

Yeah Lindros used to be my favorite player when I watched hockey. :cool:

asphyXy 01-21-2004 11:48 PM

<font color=969696>I want to see Glen Sather fired tomorrow.</font>

BCWWF 01-22-2004 12:08 AM

I always hated Jagr on the Capitols

Splaya 01-22-2004 01:41 AM

there goes my Jagr to the wings for Joseph trade. But with Hasek hurt there is no chance of that. But what if the Wings traded Hasek for Jagr. Oh man one can only dream.

Lara Emily 01-22-2004 02:34 AM

Heh wow if that's the deal the Caps get a really good return for someone whose heart just isn't there anymore. His best years have passed him.

road doggy dogg 01-22-2004 02:51 AM

Well it's been rumored to happen for like 500 years, so it's about time (if it actually did happen)

MoRcHeEbA 01-22-2004 03:14 AM

well I still haven't seen anything on TV or on anyones websites so im gonna assume this isn't happening at the moment.

road doggy dogg 01-22-2004 03:17 AM

Yeah it's not on TSN.ca yet. When it's up there, I'll believe it

John la Rock 01-22-2004 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
His career has been going downhill ever since he was traded from the Pens

Correction, his career starting going downhill ever since he stopped playing on the same line with Mario Lemieux

da_king 01-22-2004 10:32 AM

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the rangers arn't that stupid are they? you'd think they'd have learned their lesson about high priced talent. maybe if they were a cup contender or something.

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YOUR Hero 01-22-2004 11:11 AM

Jagr is playing real well right now too.

Guest #1 01-22-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by da_king
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the rangers arn't that stupid are they? you'd think they'd have learned their lesson about high priced talent. maybe if they were a cup contender or something.

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I heard an interview with a Rangers admin. a few months ago, and it put it into perspective. NY is a place where they not only battle for position, but attention. NY is literally a place where you can have a contender and be silent. With the coaching moves with the Nicks and Giants, and the off-season moves by the Yankees, the Rangers need to do something to keep on the back pages and in people's minds. Your talking about millions in revenue being involved. NY will always make the big (unreasonable) moves as long as the media market in NY remains so cut-throat.

road doggy dogg 01-23-2004 05:36 PM

LMFAO

Jagr traded for ANSON CARTER

Gertner 01-23-2004 05:42 PM

lol that doesn't even make sense!

Heyman 01-23-2004 05:42 PM

Source?

p.s. LOL

road doggy dogg 01-23-2004 05:45 PM

Jagr set to go to Rangers
TSN.ca Staff

1/23/2004

TSN has learned that the Washington Capitals have worked out a deal to trade All-Star forward Jaromir Jagr to the New York Rangers in exchange for forward Anson Carter, pending league approval by a trade call.

TSN has also learned the Capitals are picking up approximately $20 million of the remaining $44 million on the contract after this season. Sources have told TSN Jagr has agreed to defer $1 million a year for the balance of the contract. That money is deferred with interest and guaranteed.

Before the restructuring of his contract, Jagr was scheduled to earn $11 million a year in each of the next four seasons beyond this one. There is a club option for a fifth year, also at $11 million, but there ways the fifth year could become guaranteed to Jagr in the event of the following:

-if he scores 40 goals or 90 points and his team wins the first round of the playoffs in the final year of the contract.

-if he scores 80 goals or 180 points in the final two years of the contract and his team wins two rounds of the playoffs.

-if he wins a major award in the final three seasons of the deal or his team wins two Stanley Cups in that time.

The deal between the Caps and Rangers was effectively agreed to yesterday, sources said, but the re-structuring of the contract had to be negotiated this morning between the Rangers and Jagr's agent.

Now Jagr will make $10 million a year for the balance of the contract with $1 million per year deferred with interest. Of that $10 million per year, the Caps are picking up about half for the four year period.

When the Capitals and the Rangers broached the subject in late November, Washington was believed to be willing to assume about $20 million of Jagr's contract.

A six-time first team All-Star, Jagr, 31, is second on the Capitals in scoring this season with 16 goals and 29 assists for 45 points in 45 games.

Carter, who led Canada to a gold medal at the IIHF World Hockey Championship last spring, returns to the team where he made his NHL debut. Carter played 19 games with the Capitals in 1996-97 after being traded from the Colorado Avalanche.

In eight NHL seasons with the Rangers, Capitals, Edmonton Oilers and Boston Bruins, the 29-year old has 153 goals and 174 assists. He has 10 goals and seven assists in 45 games with the Rangers this season.

Jagr has not provided the payoff expected when the Capitals made him the highest paid player in the league. The team failed the reach the playoffs in his first season and was eliminated in the first round by Tampa Bay last year. Attendance has sagged for a franchise that was already losing some $20 million per year.

Jagr has fought sporadic slumps and injuries to average about one point per game with the Capitals, but those numbers are well down from his superstar years with the Penguins.

More to follow.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-23-2004 05:51 PM

Anson Carter is the man.

Yashamaga 01-23-2004 05:53 PM

Kovalev
Lindros
Jagr
Leetch
Bure*
Dunham (good goalie, but not with this team)
Nedved
Poti
Messier

...and they won't make the playoffs

Loose Cannon 01-23-2004 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yashamaga
Kovalev
Lindros
Jagr
Leetch
Bure*
Dunham (good goalie, but not with this team)
Nedved
Poti
Messier

...and they won't make the playoffs

LOL it's like a who's who of hockey. Yeah I just saw the Jagr for Cater trade on the ticker on ESPN. WTF

road doggy dogg 01-23-2004 06:01 PM

LOL it's like he's trying to build up the old Penguins dynasty team.

Maybe if Pittsburgh's financial troubles worsen, they can just buy the team and try to win a Cup that way :lol:

Loose Cannon 01-23-2004 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg
LOL it's like he's trying to build up the old Penguins dynasty team.

Maybe if Pittsburgh's financial troubles worsen, they can just buy the team and try to win a Cup that way :lol:

:lol: Might as well go ahead and get Lemieux, Francis and Straka while they're at it.

Arashi Kage 01-23-2004 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
:lol: Might as well go ahead and get Lemieux, Francis and Straka while they're at it.

Go get Recchi in addition to them, then they'll have every major currently active former Pen, lol.

Well, lets see...

Jagr, Kovalev, Stevens, Ulf Samuelsson, Nedved, Kevin Hatcher... Any other Pens who ended up playing for the Rangers?

edit:
Barnaby, Kasparitis (how'd I forget him?)

Mikey 01-23-2004 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sTiMa34
I watched a little of the game last night and I don't really know much about hockey but I can just tell the Rangers suck

Their was like 3 people at the game haha


STFU! :rant: The Rangers are in playoff contention like Jagrs former team the Penguins :roll:

PsychoSport 01-23-2004 06:35 PM

How does the Carter for Jagr trade not make sense?

Caps are set to dump about 8 mil in salary, and the Rangers get Jagr.

It make perfect sense.

Yashamaga 01-23-2004 06:42 PM

http://www.baelfire.net/Gatt/images/nylosers.jpg

Heyman 01-23-2004 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsychoSport
How does the Carter for Jagr trade not make sense?

Caps are set to dump about 8 mil in salary, and the Rangers get Jagr.

It make perfect sense.

It makes sense, but the Caps could get atleast a bit more than just Carter for Jagr straight up (i.e. a draft pick, etc.).

I'll re-iterate, I'm just glad that Jagr is NOT going to Detroit.

Mikey 01-23-2004 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yashamaga

:foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc:

Yashamaga 01-23-2004 06:47 PM

you can do more than 8 smileys now

Mikey 01-23-2004 06:49 PM

I know but you get the point yes?

Heyman 01-23-2004 06:53 PM

If the Rangers make the playoffs (and I'm assuming if they do, they'll be one of the bottom teams), they could be an EXTREME dark horse team.

I wonder if they'll make a serious pitch for Curtis Joesph (or Dominik Hasek?) somewhere down the road.

PsychoSport 01-23-2004 07:04 PM

Now I'm reading that the Caps ate 20 mil of Jagr's salary.

WTF?

Now that's an assrape if that's true.

road doggy dogg 01-23-2004 07:13 PM

Yeah that's why it makes so little sense.

See, if the Caps dumped Jagr and got his salary off their hands, I'd agree that it was a smart move.

But the thing is, they're still paying him $20 million, so it's just retarded all over

KleptoKlown 01-23-2004 08:23 PM

Jagr will choke with the Rangers.
Carter will probably do pretty good with the Caps.

I don't really think Jagr was worth much more than they got. He hasnt really been a superstar since leaving the Pens.

road doggy dogg 01-23-2004 09:12 PM

Well he's re-united with Kovalev, so who knows... then again, it's the Rangers, the two probably won't even see any ice time together at all.

asphyXy 01-23-2004 09:21 PM

<font color=969696>What a trade.</font>:y:

natureboycv 01-23-2004 11:38 PM

<font color=8307ff><b>The Caps are paying for half the salary, too? WTF, I thought the point of the trade was to dump the salary at first. They should have got a draft pick or something too, IMO.</font></b>

MoRcHeEbA 01-24-2004 12:12 AM

well paying 20 million to get rid of him and get carter might not be that bad... If there's a work stoppage why be responsible to owe a guy 22 million and he might not be playing anything. Plus the owner of the caps has money anyways so meh.

YOUR Hero 01-24-2004 01:27 AM

I hear Bondra and Gonchar may be on the move too.

road doggy dogg 01-24-2004 01:51 AM

Yeah a couple days ago there were even rumors about a three-way deal between Washington/NYR/Ottawa, that would send Jagr to NY and Bondra to Ottawa. Maybe there's still more to come of this, who knows

Lara Emily 01-24-2004 02:25 AM

One report is Bondra to Ottawa for Shane Hnidy. If that's the case that would be awesome for the Sens but I doubt Bondra will go that cheap though I never thought Jarg would go this cheap either.

MoRcHeEbA 01-24-2004 07:51 AM

TSN.CA: reports the Ottawa Senators are rumoured to be close to obtaining Bondra for winger Antoine Vermette and defenceman Brian Pothier.

road doggy dogg 01-24-2004 11:10 AM

LMAO oh Christ

Bondra and Gonchar both injured in last night's game :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

(I'm not really laughing at the injuries, more at the situation)

Yashamaga 01-24-2004 11:23 AM

Gonchar's out for a month.

holy shit, Jagr is gonna be playing with Kovalev and Nedved :eek:

asphyXy 01-24-2004 02:59 PM

<font color=969696>Holy shit, the Rangers play dump-and-chase style hockey :eek:. That line will do absolutely nothing.</font>

road doggy dogg 01-24-2004 03:02 PM

And hey, the Rangers also actually solved one of their problems by signing Jamie Pushover on defense!

asphyXy 01-24-2004 03:05 PM

<font color=969696>That's not important right now. They have Jagr!

Please ignore the fact that half of our defense is injured.</font>

road doggy dogg 01-24-2004 04:08 PM

I'm just saying, Pushor is shit :p

But yeah, from the Ranger's POV that was an excellent trade. Carter's done nothing for them, and getting Jagr can't hurt. And think about it, they have unlimited money, and STILL got Washington to eat up half of Jagr's salary.

PsychoSport 01-24-2004 09:25 PM

LOL 7-0 Ottawa.

Still a period and a half to go as well. :lol:

Jagr will lead them to the playoffs!

Yashamaga 01-24-2004 10:49 PM

It seems the more big names they add, the worse they get.

Maybe they can pull a deal off for Peter Forsberg, then one for Naslund and become the worst team in history.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-24-2004 11:09 PM

His impact was certainly deafening tonight.

BCWWF 01-25-2004 12:15 AM

Why would Jagr have gone to Detroit for Joseph? Isn't Olaf Kolzig one of the better NHL goalies? If he were ever to go to Detroit I would assume it would be from the Rangers, who could use Joseph more.

road doggy dogg 01-25-2004 01:41 AM

Yeah, goaltending is the least of Washington's worries right now. Them trading for a goalie would make less sense than them trading Jagr away for Anson Carter.

Y2Ant 01-25-2004 02:06 AM

Kolzig, Bondra and Gonchar are all on their way out according to TSN :o

YOUR Hero 01-25-2004 04:48 PM

Washington's owner wants to start fresh basically.

YOUR Hero 01-25-2004 04:50 PM

.. I hope Vancouver makes a bid for Bondra or Gonchar. If they can be gotten on the cheap like Jagr was, well dammit they need to do something to take the next step.
I wonder if Lang is available.

Heyman 01-25-2004 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
..
I wonder if Lang is available.

My penis would erect if the canucks acquired Lang.


p.s. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: @ Senators handing the Rangers their asses on a silver platter.


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