Spiderman 3 Villians Announced....
 

With word going around that Spiderman 3 will be the final Spiderman movie for now from Raimi many were waiting to see who the villain would be

Many believed that after what happened in the end of the last movie that James Franco would portray the Green Goblin 2. Rumours also went around that The Chameleon would be the villian due to the fact that Thomas Haden Church and Topher Grace were both signed on to be bad guys.

Well the verdict is in and Freeze Dried Movies finally got the heads up on who the new villians are for Spiderman 3...

James Franco will be Hobgoblin

Thomas Haden Church will be Sandman

and.....


wait for it....



Topher Grace will be.........Venom

Here is the link for the scoop...

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/new...ll&NewsID=3355

What in the world?[/Conan]

Venom :yes: Fuck ya!!!!!!!. Topher Grace though?

Having Venom in this movie is a bad idea. Baaaaaaaaaaaad idea.

Venom, awesome. I think that's bad casting and I think he deserves his own movie instead of being one of 3, but it's Venom, and I'm happy.

I know you're reasoning, but what if this movie doesn't get 1 or 2 more sequels? Then we would of never seen Venom. It's not like it's a shoe-in for 5 more sequels or something.

But Hobgolblin :eek:

I never knew Green Goblin's son turned into Hobgoblin.

Venoms cool and all. But this better be like a 3 hour+ movie so they explain his origin properly :mad:

zomg Eric Foreman!! *mark out*

He didnt, he was the 4th Green Goblin

but Franko was Green Goblin's son in the movie right?

And it says he's playing Hobgoblin

So what am I missing here?

WOAH Sandman too. Didn't even see him before. Gonna be a kickass movie

What you're missing here is what's said on the webpage linked.

He's playing the first Hobgoblin, not Green Goblin II as in the comics.

Spider-Man doesn't shoot webbing out of his wrists, and his first opponent was not Green Goblin. They are taking liberties.

Venom=bad idea. Without any build, he's gonna be fucking stupid.

oh my bad, should of read the article:shifty:

I loved Hobgoblin in the cartoon and in a few of the comics I have. MMy favorite goblin is Demogoblin though. He looks badass.

The Demonic Hobgoblin and Demogoblin (Who was Hobgoblin's "Doppleganger" from a Marvel-Wide story arc) were the best incarnations. I didn't like Hobgoblin that much otherwise, he was a petty thug who used the Goblin formula.

I actually like the idea of Harry becoming the Hobgoblin though, instead of another Green Goblin. They're really gonna have to alter Venom though, if they're gonna include him. So far the villains have been true to form with minor changes. Usually to better fit the era and the format (movie vs comic)...Venom's gonna require a lot, or they're going to have to truncate a lot of shit. Either way, I'm gonna have major issues.

He didn't. Hobgoblin was Roderick Kingsley, a retired businessman and professional criminal. He and another criminal found Norman Osborn's old lairs, which had his costumes, weapons and journals in them. So Kingsley killed the other guy (George someone, I think. :$) and went about systematically looting the Green Goblin's old lairs and altered the costume slightly to become Hobgoblin.

Harry Osborn became the second Green Goblin, and had serious problems with drugs. He died later on as an apparent result of the Green Goblin formula.

Oh. Yeah. What Kane said. :D

Except for the 'Spider-Man not shooting webbing out of his wrists' bit. In Ultimate Spider-Man, he does have organic webshooters. :$

There is talk of there being 6 Spiderman movies total.

I forgot which symbiote came from space in the series: Venom or Carnage?

This will not be the only movie involving Venom. I heard rumours that Topher might have signed a 3 movie deal. Plenty of time to build the character.

I like Topher as Eddie Brock. He is taller and a bit more built than Tobey and I think they are making Vemon the "anti-spiderman", which he already is in the comics but.... for the movie it might be where the suit is what makes Venom bigger and Eddie Brock really doesn't have to be a huge guy. Just a normal guy like Peter Parker is. Could work out great.

ok cool. Thanks for the lesson guys :y:

I'm glad they got Doc Ock out of the way, cause I never really liked him at all. He's probably my least favorite major spidey villan.

The first comic I ever bought was Sandman vs Spiderman and I enjoyed Sandman a lot. I hope they do six movies because I really want to see the Carnage stuff. Those Maximum Carnage Issues are my fav comics I own. So many different characters in them.

Spiderman got the black symbiote costume during the Secret Wars. It then went to Eddie Brock (creating Venom). While Eddie escaped from jail, some of the symbiote was left behind. Eddie's cell mate Cletus Kasady "hooked up with it" to create Carnage.

Sam knows better than to bring in Vemon for the last movie. From what I understand, he already has treatments for 3 more scripts.

6 movies in all.

any info you need on any of Peter Parker's enemies can be found here:

http://www.samruby.com/villtoc.htm

And of course Ultimate Spider-Man is so close to the original. Sorry, doesn't really count. Otherwise, the Green Goblin's Origin is all wrong. :D

Maybe he developed them later in the series (I bought the first two collections), but even in Ultimate I saw him using web shooters. Based on a formula of his father's, to boot.

With luck, he doesn't come in as Venom in this movie. We see a symbiote on Parker and Brock and maybe Venom at the end.

Actually, the symbiote "gave birth." It didn't leave anything behind.

Treatments for scripts are no guarantee that there will be 6 movies.

If you go back to the "Maximum Carnage" crossover (which I am right now) Cletus tells the story on how he became everyone's favorite red and black sex icon:

Cletus was sentenced to life in prison and was mated up with Eddie Brock. After the last Avengers/Spiderman team-up to defeat Venom, the symbiote sought Eddie out and when they came together, he broke out of prison. While breaking out he beat up Cletus, who was just about to kill Eddie anyways, leaving him cut up. Venom broke free and took off leaving bit of the costume on the jail wall.... the symbiote got into Cletus' bloodstream.... creating Carnage.

Not the way Raimi works.

During interviews for Spiderman 2 he made it clear that he wanted to make this his way, and the way he saw it is a six part story.

Yeah, Brock says otherwise. You lose.

In fact, the miniseries where they had to deal with his other seeds would back up that.

So if they pull it out from under him, he will still make the movies, without the liscenses or funding? :p

Maybe they are just going to begin the story for Venom in this one, never know.

:lol:

like they would pull the franchise from him.

That's what I'm hoping.

so i guess topher's gonna be bulking up big time.

Dude, smart management of Marvel flims would be about as likely as the WWE booking like the fans want.

VENOM! :D

Venom! My fav Spiderman bad guy:D

OK, I'm not too keen on the involvement of Venom but if it's played right over an amount of time then yes it could work.

I'd also like to pint out that freezedriedmovies or whatever might be talking aload of crap.
Other sites are reporting it as uncomfirmed like www.comics2film.com , so take the news of the villains with a pinch of salt.

still nothing on aicn.com

Yeah, this all seemed a bit questionable. But what the Hell? Slow news day.

Unless you open 17 magazine.

Yeah I'm not feeling the Topher as Venom casting.

Actually I'm having a hard time believing any of this until it comes from a more trustworthy source. I've never even heard of Freeze Dried Movies.

3 major villains in 1 movie? Talk about overkill. No way can it be done well enough in a reasonable running time. Unless they use Sandman stupidly and have him knocked off early in the beginning, pre-opening credits sequence type of thing. But that would suck.

Cramming all these villains in makes this franchise start to smell like the old Batman franchise, and we all know how great those were. :roll: I cringe at the thought of Sandman saying "You're not sending ME to the SANDBOX!" :nono:

Let's see if any of this true or not first though...

Hey, I never said it was a good idea. :$ :D

Basically, the only way this Venom thing can work is if they do it like they should do the Harvey Dent/Two Face character in the next two Batman films.

Venom's origins are complex enough to warrant a good build up. Spidey needs to get the black suit in this film and reject it after he realises what it is, which plants the seeds of hate in the symbiote. They also need to build up the Eddie/Peter rivalry, so when the two forces that absolutely loathe both Peter and Spider-Man meet up and become one (one or two movies down the line), it is a big impact.

Another thing that is important (to me) with Venom is that they don't portray him as a villain, but as an anti-hero. :( :(

Maybe it's just me, but I can't see this guy:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...716/70show.jpg

being all that convincing as this guy:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...n716/venom.jpg

I can think of worse people.

Paul Reubens.

Michael Jackson (though he does look like an alien)

Zack Gowen (Who? I hear you all utter in unison).

Okay, so I can only think of three people worse. So sue me.

:lol:
(and no, not at KK)

The good thing is, he doesn't even need the black suit long before he turns on it. I know he SHOULD, but in the timeframe of a movie, I think we'll have to see less of it. But it's not like it can't be done quicker.

The last movie almost looked like they were building to John Jameson as Manwolf or whatever they called him. That should work.

The good thing is, he doesn't even need the black suit long before he turns on it. I know he SHOULD, but in the timeframe of a movie, I think we'll have to see less of it. But it's not like it can't be done quicker.

The last movie almost looked like they were building to John Jameson as Manwolf or whatever they called him. That should work.

Yeah, plus they've got Dr. Connors/The Lizard up their sleeve. So they have the villains to at least span out the movie franchise until Venom is suitably built up. Sam Raimi isn't stupid, he wouldn't have agreed to do Venom unless he could do him right.

Though you are right about the suit. :y:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

here's the link...while it does have Topher Grace isted, his character is not

You complain Topher Grace doesn't suit a character? Have you not looked at Toby McGuire? He's worked out close to perfect.

Fortunately, Raimi has built up a world where this shit is still WEIRD. I don't think Spider-Man questioned his costume because he had been pulled from New York to a planet forged out of other planets, to fight in a battle of good and evil as decided by a cosmic being.

...And that was before breakfast. I probably wouldn't be too creeped out by a costume that changed forms either.

In this Spider-Man, even super-science is weird. Octavius was brilliant, and tops in his field. Osbourne didn't pull this stuff out of his ass, he was working on govt contracts for military tech (and it's kind of campy, but not too far out of military proposals...They were experimenting with jet packs as early as the 40s). Spider-Man didn't build web shooters and cheap webbing that was super-strong. The only super-villains were HUGE and had major funding. Octavius was funded by Harry Osbourne, and Norman was building for the government as part of a large corporation.

I think an alien symbiote being dropped on Parker would turn creepy fast.

So far I've liked most of the changes, except how rushed the love story was.

The guy who played him in the first movie fits the "before" pic more or less.

Depends on what they're doing with him, but Topher looks more like he should be Carnage. :D

In the end, I hope they do this right. Like many of you, I feel 3 is a lot of villians for one movie.

Fuck that shit, Jake Gillenhal (SP?) For Carnage all the way. In fact, that was one of the original rumors back when he was with Dunst.

Shoulda got Micky Rourke to play Venom.

Who played Eddie Brock in the first movie? I don't remember this, I do remember a guy playing Flash Thomson (bully in school) I only remember them mentioning Eddie Brock.

Errr...Joke? Does the guy even REMOTELY strike you as Carnage?

3 Villains could be cool, provided they don't occupy all his time. Have him like kick Andman's ass early on or some shit.

http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0263472/

Brock was essentially a cameo part, but he was there. When people were talking about Venom being in SM2, I was thinking they could extend Brock's role in this one, and work up to him in 3.

Thanks, had no clue. Cool though.

VENOM

Perhaps Venom will be the main villain, and the other two are like:

Harry's becoming more and more evil, but you never see him as Hobgoblin till the very end where he puts on the suit and it's ...To Be Continued...

And Sandman is just scientist that will turn into Sandman, like Doc Conners in S2

I still havent seen spiderman 2 I was at the odeon and there was a technichal fault so I couldnt see the rest..

Venom won't be the title villain.

They're playing the tension between Parker and Harry so heavily I doubt we're going to wait another "episode" to see this develop. Even if he's not the Goblin, he will be HEAVILY involved. Most likely.

Sandman as a villain would work, especially since he'll be the first villain that can be "killed" without being killed.

Sandman- Awesome. Can't wait.

Hobgoblin- Good. I can understand using the hobgoblin instead of a second green goblin. It may seem repetitive to movie goers if there was a second green goblin.

Venom- Gay. Gay, gay, gay, gay gay. Unless they are only laying the groundwork for a future movie, this will be gay. But I don't think they are considering it was announced that grace will be playing Venom, and not Eddie Brock.

http://www.zeuscomics.com/images/cov...-carnage-1.jpg

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Whats sandmans backstory and his weakness?

Whenever someone sings that song , 'Oh Mr Sandman...'

His weaknesses include water and being turned into glass.

Ed Norton would be a sweet Carnage I think

i thought it was wind :shifty:

Sandman was a criminal on the run from the law. He was hiding out on a remote beach, unaware that the Government were running atomic tests on it. He was affected by one of the atomic blasts, and his molecules fused with those of the sand on the beach, thus making him Sandman. I'm pretty sure he can harden himself to the qualities of diamonds, and he can 'disperse' himself. Fun times.

I don't remember diamonds, but he can do a solid block of concrete-level shit.

Oh shit yes.

He could do it. Dye his hair, curl it a bit, and let him act like a lunatic. If they want to cast Tobey as Spiderman, and Topher as Venom, Jake would work for Carnage... They're all about the same build, same style, and Jake looks the craziest. Unfortunately, I can't find a good picture of Cassidy without the Carnage symbiote online.

Or maybe Stephen Dorff. I think he could pull it off.

You know, they may not actually have Venom himself in the story as a whole, they could just show brock in the Bugle all the time and set the wheels in motion for the next one (Rami has said he'd like to do 6 right?) So at the end of the 3rd one after Sandman and Goblin are dead, Brock could find the suit and boo yah!

You're probably right :$

Isn't Venom supposed to be a muscle head? not a computer nerd?

the muscle guy from CSI would be a perfect Eddie Brock I dunno

Venom shoudl be HUGE! :naughty:

Jesus Christ, you TRY to be thick, don't you?

I was telling you my pick was a joke. :|

Brock wasn't a monster when he was first merged with the suit. The stronger he gets, though, the stronger the suit makes him. However, it bulked him up even when he had just been fired.

The thing is, they don't need a bulky guy to play Brock unless they CHOOSE to go that way. What they could do is make him scrawny and bulked up as Venom, or they could go with a bigger Brock.

Get Brock Lesnar.

He's got the build.

Errr, I thought you were asking me if I was joking ;)

Anywho, cut me some slack, I don't sleep anymore, so I'm no longer coherent.

Venom's overrated. There are much better villains in Spider-Man's rogues gallery....

.....like Arcade! :shifty:

It's a wellknown fact that Venom hates the internet. :shifty:

Lesnar as Venom would be SWEEEEET. After that he wouldn't need to come groveling back to Vince McMahon, he could just do the next two SM movies and be set for life.

Thomas Hayden Church, ladies and gentlemen:

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/tchurch.jpg