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Pinnacle Charisma 09-30-2005 07:40 AM

Kurt Angle: The Complete Package
 
Has there ever been a better all rounder in the wwe than Kurt Angle.

Apart from being an absolute in-ring god, he has fantastic mic skills, a bucket load of charisma and knows how to create a character that the crowd can respond (just watch any raw from 2000-01).

Although other attributes that other wrestlers posses like the Rocks charisma or Austin’s character may help them in dwarfing Kurt Angles appeal as a wrestler but I don’t believe no wrestlers surpasses Kurt in all aspects that make a quality wrestle

Destor 09-30-2005 07:44 AM

Defiantly. If he can last 10 more years I would call him the greatest of all time.

Tornado 09-30-2005 08:42 AM

Kurt Angle > God

Kurt Angle is seriously, the man. He has everything. His charisma is off the charts, he can make people laugh at him, with him, cheer for him, and boo him out of the building. He can have a semi decent match with anyone on the roster, and given the right opponent, can produce 5 Star matches like nobody. If he could last out the decade, he would go down as the greatest pro wrestlers ever, well in my books anyway.
Unfortunatly, with all his neck problems, I can only see him going for a few more years, which is a great shame.
I just hope he has enough "intelligence" to hang up the boots before he does any lasting injury to himself that would damage his family life.

Londoner 09-30-2005 08:47 AM

Kurt Angle can have a 4 or 5 star match with anybody on the roster imo.He doesn't need the 'right' opponent.

(just re-read your message tornado and realised I don't agree with it totally!)

Destor 09-30-2005 08:47 AM

Semi decent? :foc:

Goulet 09-30-2005 09:29 AM

There are very few even close to him as far as Wrestling ability AND Mic skills... I'd say Jericho, HBK, and Eddie are the only ones near his level of being the Complete Package

Tornado 09-30-2005 10:05 AM

Yes I used the words "semi" and "decent" in the same sentance as Kurt Angle, I must be punished. Seriously, he'd hard pushed to pull a decent match out of some people on the rsoter, but he could, and would do it.
I admitted he is GOD, but there are some people he'd have to work hard with to put on a watchable match.

Favre4Ever 09-30-2005 10:38 AM

I've been watching Kurt Angle since his debut; saw his first match against Shawn Stasiak, saw his undefeated streak be broken by the Rock, saw him win his first WWE Championship. Kurt Angle didn't become my favorite wrestler really until he lost the WWF Title back to the Rock at No Way Out 2001. He put on an incredibly competitive match, and got out of three Rock Bottoms, which shocked me because I was only fifteen in 2001. The next night on RAW, he officially began the "i'm Kurt and Angle and i'm fucking crazy" gimmick by holding the ankle lock on Scotty 2 Hotty until he broke it. Ever since then, he's just gotten better and better, and there only a select few that are on the same level with him.

Favre4Ever 09-30-2005 10:41 AM

^Yeah Tornado, but if you watch his matches, he works hard on every single move that he does. You can tell that 100% of his effort is being shown when hes in the ring. Thats why his matches are incredible.

Jaton 09-30-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hulkamania320
I've been watching Kurt Angle since his debut; saw his first match against Shawn Stasiak, saw his undefeated streak be broken by the Rock, saw him win his first WWE Championship. Kurt Angle didn't become my favorite wrestler really until he lost the WWF Title back to the Rock at No Way Out 2001. He put on an incredibly competitive match, and got out of three Rock Bottoms, which shocked me because I was only fifteen in 2001. The next night on RAW, he officially began the "i'm Kurt and Angle and i'm fucking crazy" gimmick by holding the ankle lock on Scotty 2 Hotty until he broke it. Ever since then, he's just gotten better and better, and there only a select few that are on the same level with him.


I'm pretty sure his streak was ended by Tazz at Tazz's Royal Rumble debut.

Tornado 09-30-2005 10:45 AM

I never said he doesnt give 100% everynight, all I said was it would be harder for him to get a good match out of people like Big Show etc.


Quote:

Originally Posted by hulkamania320
I've been watching Kurt Angle since his debut; saw his first match against Shawn Stasiak, saw his undefeated streak be broken by the Rock.

I thought it was Tazz?

Jaton 09-30-2005 10:45 AM

Yeah, it was Royal Rumble 2000.

Londoner 09-30-2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tornado
I never said he doesnt give 100% everynight, all I said was it would be harder for him to get a good match out of people like Big Show etc.


Big Show is a bit of an unfair example since that guy is HUGE.And at Backlash 2000 i thought they had a good match.

McLegend 09-30-2005 11:12 AM

Kurt doesn't need another 10 years.

He already is the Greatest ever.

Londoner 09-30-2005 11:17 AM

I agree Legend, but people will always say 'another 10 years'.....

Sadistic 09-30-2005 11:22 AM

Wonder how different things would have been if he had't been so offended and stayed with ECW. That would have been cool.

Londoner 09-30-2005 11:24 AM

Sadistic, just shut up.

Sadistic 09-30-2005 11:26 AM

Oh I forgot the 1st time you heard of ECW was around one night stand.

Londoner 09-30-2005 11:29 AM

Hahaha very funny. It seems as though you missed my posts saying 'i had seen ECW shows on the channel called bravo before' and i have old matches on mick foleys dvd.I had always heard of it, I just never got to watch it because I never had Sky until a few years ago.

So now bring on you're next exaggerated comment that's meant to insult me.

dablackguy 09-30-2005 12:12 PM

Kurt Angle is the man. Maybe the best wrestler live today, with no offense intended to HHH (I hate when Flair calls him the best wrestler alive today) Anyways, those of you with complains be happy you don't have stupid friends who think Ken Shamrock and Dean Malenko were better and could beat Kurt Angle.

like me

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 12:15 PM

I don't like Kurt Angle very much. He always whines about stuff and fights guys dat are new and have never been on TV before. He kind of bores me:n:

Tornado 09-30-2005 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashman#2
I don't like Kurt Angle very much. He always whines about stuff and fights guys dat are new and have never been on TV before. He kind of bores me:n:


You do know that he is just portraying a character...and he is also GOD.

The One 09-30-2005 12:32 PM

Kurt Angle is without question the current greatest wrestler. Is he the best of all time? No Ric Flair still has that. I realise how great Angle is, but at the end of the day he has only been wrestling for 5 years. It's incredible how much he has done in 5 years, I don't think he needs another 10 years, I would say if he last to the end of the decade he will surpase Flair, but in the meantime...no...I can't put him over The Nature Boy.

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 12:34 PM

what character? I thought he is Kurt Angle, not a character of Kurt Angle? you have lost me Tornado.

Very Cool post The One. :cool:

The One 09-30-2005 12:37 PM

Tornado's point was the Angle Invetational (in which he fights nobodys) is all a part of an angle, also it should be noted Kurt Angle the man is VERY different then Kurt Angle the character. Angle is actually nothing short of a gentleman.

Tornado 09-30-2005 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashman#2
what character? I thought he is Kurt Angle, not a character of Kurt Angle? you have lost me Tornado.

Yes he is Kurt Angle, that is his real name. But he plays a character on TV, he doesn't act that way off camera.

The One 09-30-2005 12:38 PM

Slow poke.,..already covered that :p

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 12:40 PM

So Kurt Angle is part of an angle? Oh boy :?: I thought what the wrestling guys do on TV, they do at home. I think.

Londoner 09-30-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Kurt Angle is without question the current greatest wrestler. Is he the best of all time? No Ric Flair still has that. I realise how great Angle is, but at the end of the day he has only been wrestling for 5 years. It's incredible how much he has done in 5 years, I don't think he needs another 10 years, I would say if he last to the end of the decade he will surpase Flair, but in the meantime...no...I can't put him over The Nature Boy.



Correction-Angle has only been in the WWE for 5 years, he's been wrestling all his life.Get your facts straight, mate.

Tornado 09-30-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Slow poke.,..already covered that :p

We posted in the same minute, you must have beat me by seconds....:mad:

The One 09-30-2005 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL
Correction-Angle has only been in the WWE for 5 years, he's been wrestling all his life.Get your facts straight, mate.

Blow it out 'yo ass. :kiss: You know I meant Pro Wrestling.

Tornado 09-30-2005 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL
Correction-Angle has only been in the WWE for 5 years, he's been wrestling all his life.get your facts straight, mate.


He has been amature wrestling all his life, he has been pro-wrestling 5 years.

Also, lol @ questioning The One having his facts right, he's one on the most knowledgable posters we have.

Tornado 09-30-2005 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Blow it out 'yo ass. :kiss: You know I meant Pro Wrestling.


JESUS CHRIST STOP POSTING AT THE SAME TIME AS ME....:mad::mad:







:kiss:

The One 09-30-2005 12:45 PM

You love me...I know it's true...just quit stalking me. ;)

Londoner 09-30-2005 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Blow it out 'yo ass. :kiss: You know I meant Pro Wrestling.


Yeah but reading that 'angle has only been wrestling 5 years', doesn't look right.I just felt the need to correct you, and couldnt resist.

Tornado-I know that, but he's still been wrestling more than 5 years.That's the point, you know what I meant anyway.

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 12:47 PM

**FLASH FREEZE

I hope Cena beats Kurt Angle in another match for Cena's Championship Title.

The One 09-30-2005 12:50 PM

Why do you want Cena to continue to hold the title in place of Kurt Angle? If you need I can get JamesSteele in here to do a mad Angle bombardment.

The MAC 09-30-2005 04:04 PM

Kurt angle makes me laugh- he;s a funny guy ..remember the time he said "GAY PEOPLE FREAKIN ADORE ME!"

lol killer!

TerranRich 09-30-2005 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashman#2
So Kurt Angle is part of an angle? Oh boy :?: I thought what the wrestling guys do on TV, they do at home. I think.

12 years old or not, you can't POSSIBLY be that retarded! :eek:

RemyRed 09-30-2005 05:08 PM

I hope Cena beats his ass just like HBK will this Monday.

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 05:58 PM

Cena is the best wrestler in the WWE today. Nobody can beat him for the Belt, not even Kurt Angle.

And I don't know how I am a retarded, I'm just saying what I know.

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:32 PM

Really eh?

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:35 PM


James Steele 09-30-2005 06:35 PM


James Steele 09-30-2005 06:35 PM

Kurt Freaking Angle

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:35 PM

ALL BOW DOWN BEFORE THE ALMIGHTY KURT FREAKING ANGLE!!!

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:36 PM

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1...5medium6jl.jpg

See that. Yeah, he won that with a broken freaking neck.

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:36 PM

KURT

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:36 PM

FREAKING

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:36 PM

ANGLE

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:36 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:39 PM

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6...angle014kq.jpg

Kurt Angle: Olympian & Wrestling God

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:40 PM

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/6...tangle17dl.jpg

Kurt Angle: Wrestling Champion

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:40 PM

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1365/kurt065ru.jpg

Kurt Angle: Giant Killer

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:40 PM

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2...nglebig9wc.jpg

Kurt Angle: Pimp Daddy

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 06:42 PM

***FLASH FREEZE

Kurt Angle has never won the Champion Title 10 times. :)

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 06:42 PM

THE GAME HAS

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:43 PM

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9...thanyou7bh.jpg

Jaton 09-30-2005 06:44 PM

Kurt Angle isn't banging Stephanie, either. Nor was he apart of the Clique. Nor has he been wrestling over 5 years.

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:44 PM

Unlike Triple H, Kurt Angle never had to [CENSORED] the boss' daughter to be the WWE Champion.

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaton
Kurt Angle isn't banging Stephanie, either. Nor was he apart of the Clique. Nor has he been wrestling over 5 years.

:y: See HHH is the Best at everything

Jaton 09-30-2005 06:49 PM

Best at politicking?

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 06:51 PM

what is dat? HHH has won the Title 10 times, he is the best in the WWE today. I see what I see.

Jonster 09-30-2005 06:51 PM

What was that site with the comic strip thing about Angle?

James Steele 09-30-2005 06:58 PM

http://www.pimpassmandroid.com/kurtandyoupageone.html

James Steele 09-30-2005 07:02 PM

Which picture is more ROFL?


http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4...funkurt3ro.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4...reangle7oi.jpg

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7...szombie5cj.jpg

Destor 09-30-2005 07:21 PM

Vampire.

Jaton 09-30-2005 07:25 PM

What. The. Fuck.

Destor 09-30-2005 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Kurt doesn't need another 10 years.

He already is the Greatest ever.

When you talk about legendary status, longevity is a necessary credential. All the other legends put it, he has to as well. I believe no one has ever had a superior in ring prowess to Kurt Angle. He is one of the top ten mic men of all time. But if he can not make at least 5 to 10 more years he will just be "one of the best" instead of "THE" best.

Jaton 09-30-2005 07:56 PM

Yeah really. Ric put in most of his life to being "THE" best.

Destor 09-30-2005 08:01 PM

The Forum Horsemen do it again.

McLegend 09-30-2005 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
When you talk about legendary status, longevity is a necessary credential. All the other legends put it, he has to as well. I believe no one has ever had a superior in ring prowess to Kurt Angle. He is one of the top ten mic men of all time. But if he can not make at least 5 to 10 more years he will just be "one of the best" instead of "THE" best.

No, I think it makes Angle more of a legend since he done all that he has done in only 5 or 6 years.

That makes him a legend and the best.

Destor 09-30-2005 08:31 PM

I will be the first to admit that it is highly impressive that he has accomplished what he has in such a short time it doesn't change the fact that you need at LEAST a decade in the business before you can even be considered legendary. I remember reading in Flairs book he said something to the extent that if Kurt could last a decade he would consider the greatest of all time. And if Naitch is calling him the best, I damn sure will too.

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:12 PM

"The Forum Horseman"?? Ha, I like that one.


Anyway, yeah Kurt is the best in the WWE, bar none. He's also definately in my top 5 greatest wrestlers of all time. He's been a consistent performer, puts on good matches with everyone, and is a professional. I read in Angle's book that he would prefer all of his matches to end fairly, win or lose, without any cheating/interference booked into the match. He sells for everyone and when he is called upon, he is good at putting people over. In terms of in-ring ability, he reminds me of Bret Hart. In terms of psychology and ability to connect to the crowd he reminds me of Hulk Hogan(and yes, Mr Steele that is a GOOD THING). In terms of charisma, he reminds me of Ric Flair. Angle is the total package. He is the greatest assest to WWE right now. Greater than HHH, greater than Orton, greater than Batista, greater than Undertaker. He is THE go-to guy for Vince.

Jaton 09-30-2005 10:17 PM

Yes. Respect us. :shifty:

PureHatred 09-30-2005 10:25 PM

Everything about this topic is just :love:

From the fact that Kurt Angle is arguably the best all-around performer in the history to the fact that The One corerctly pointed out that he would have to do it for at least another decade to surpass Flair tyo JamesSteele's Angle bombardment ...just some good stuff in here. If Kane Knight came in to browbeat the piece of shit n00b, this would be the epitome of the wrestling forum.

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:25 PM

I only respect you if you deserve it.

So, yes Jaton, you and Destor have my respect. Jimmy Boy has some of mine but not total. And I'm assuming there are 4 of you and i dont know who the other one is so....

The One 09-30-2005 10:26 PM

Yo

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:27 PM

Oh, Sorry man, I just wasnt paying attention. Yeah I respect you too. I may not always agree with you but at least you logically back up your points.

PureHatred 09-30-2005 10:29 PM

So which one of you is Mongo McMichaels?

Jaton 09-30-2005 10:32 PM

Destor. :P

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:33 PM

LMAO

The One 09-30-2005 10:35 PM

You got some respect from me...and trust me, I know that about half of what comes out of my mouth someone disagrees with. Hell I think I am the only one who doesn't even enjoy Samoa Joe...but agreeing on everything isn't what this place is about. Hell I have no problem with anyone who thinks something opposite of myself, what I have a problem with is twats who don't know how to fucking type words correctly, marks who think that a number of title reigns warrents a place of greatness, tools who are under the impression that a wrestler's promo and enterence should be twice as long as his actual match because wrestling is boring...I think I have made my point. No I don't expect to see anyone here agree with my point of view, and fact of the matter is I have spent most of my time here on the losing side of alot of agruments...Point and Case; I am not sure Kane Knight and I have ever agreed on anything in terms of wrestling...now as to who is a twat and who isn't we usually have the same mind, and yet Knighty and I have a shit load of mutual respect for one another. That's what it comes down to.

(Long story short, yeah you got some respect too ;) )

The One 09-30-2005 10:37 PM

Oh and I am the Ric Flair of these Boys...I'm old, ain't in my prime anymore, anything that changes in the industry I am bitter about...and yet for some reason, people keep coming back. Wooooooooooooo!

McLegend 09-30-2005 10:38 PM

So the forum horsemen are Destor, jaton, Jamessteele, and you The one

is this correct?

PureHatred 09-30-2005 10:38 PM

For the record, Samoa Joe is horribly overrated. He's supposed to be this shoot type fighter yet he delivers some of the weakest most pussified looking forearms, punches, and kicks I've ever seen. I am actually embarassed for the guys who have to sell that crap.

Other stuff about him irritiates me as well, but that's the big one.

Destor 09-30-2005 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaton
Destor. :P

Oh :foc: you Jaton. Your looking at the enforcer, you can be Oli.

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
You got some respect from me...and trust me, I know that about half of what comes out of my mouth someone disagrees with. Hell I think I am the only one who doesn't even enjoy Samoa Joe...but agreeing on everything isn't what this place is about. Hell I have no problem with anyone who thinks something opposite of myself, what I have a problem with is twats who don't know how to fucking type words correctly, marks who think that a number of title reigns warrents a place of greatness, tools who are under the impression that a wrestler's promo and enterence should be twice as long as his actual match because wrestling is boring...I think I have made my point. No I don't expect to see anyone here agree with my point of view, and fact of the matter is I have spent most of my time here on the losing side of alot of agruments...Point and Case; I am not sure Kane Knight and I have ever agreed on anything in terms of wrestling...now as to who is a twat and who isn't we usually have the same mind, and yet Knighty and I have a shit load of mutual respect for one another. That's what it comes down to.

(Long story short, yeah you got some respect too ;) )


:y:

I didn't mean it in a way that I don't like you, I meant it to show that it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with you. Unfortuantely,as you pointed out, alot of the n00bs on here don't understand that.

Then again I bet a few of them, like this Flashman character, are big marks.

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 10:40 PM

****Flashbomb

This message board forum is pretty cool I thinkm, but why do the people think they are like wrestlers or something? What's with Dis forming groups on here

McLegend 09-30-2005 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesSteele

This pic scares me, because if Kurt Angle was evil we would all be dead.

Think about that

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureHatred
For the record, Samoa Joe is horribly overrated. He's supposed to be this shoot type fighter yet he delivers some of the weakest most pussified looking forearms, punches, and kicks I've ever seen. I am actually embarassed for the guys who have to sell that crap.

Other stuff about him irritiates me as well, but that's the big one.


I blame that for how TNA books him. He should be recognized for using the Strong Style, not some kind of MMA style. He put on some classics in RoH, but his work(so far) in TNA hasn't been as good(including the Alex Shelly match and the Triple Threat). Unfortunately, Joe is a guy that needs a good opponet to really shine.

The One 09-30-2005 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashman#2
****Flashbomb

This message board forum is pretty cool I thinkm, but why do the people think they are like wrestlers or something? What's with Dis forming groups on here


Don't put that faggity ass (wow a homo using the word fag) Flashbomb wanring thing...

It's the same reason the TPWW Mafia was created years and years ago (Damn we busted a load of fuggin asses) it's a sign, a symbol. We arn't going to go and jump people, infact some of my favorite debates have been against JamesSteele in the past, it's a way of showing mutual respect...something I am sure has never been returned to you.

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashman#2
****Flashbomb

This message board forum is pretty cool I thinkm, but why do the people think they are like wrestlers or something? What's with Dis forming groups on here


Kid, according to your profile, you are 12 years old and like to play with action figures. I'm gonna give you a fair warning that this forum might not be the best place for you. Just a friendly, fair warning. You probably don't have enough experience with wrestling for this place yet.

Jaton 09-30-2005 10:45 PM

Good enough. :P

RemyRed 09-30-2005 10:45 PM

Triple H is the best. He's only doing what they're letting him do.

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 10:46 PM

But I know these guys on your team are not the best guys on here. I've been doing TPWW for a while now and I know other posters are much better then those other people. Like The King of Old School guy and Alienoid

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redoneja
Kid, according to your profile, you are 12 years old and like to play with action figures. I'm gonna give you a fair warning that this forum might not be the best place for you. Just a friendly, fair warning. You probably don't have enough experience with wrestling for this place yet.

no deal :)

redoneja 09-30-2005 10:47 PM

Tread carefully Young Flashman...You've been warned. n00bs must pa their dues for insolence.

The One 09-30-2005 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redoneja
I blame that for how TNA books him. He should be recognized for using the Strong Style, not some kind of MMA style. He put on some classics in RoH, but his work(so far) in TNA hasn't been as good(including the Alex Shelly match and the Triple Threat). Unfortunately, Joe is a guy that needs a good opponet to really shine.

But that is Joe's biggest problem. He isn't a good wrestler, he is a good mirror. In RoH he had no end of good workers to get in the ring with, not that TNA is lacking, but TNA has a different style. Joe can't carry his own, he is more of the reflection of the other guy. Other then the most recent Triple Threat Match between Daniels, Styles, and Joe...I don't remember a time when Joe was in the ring with someone and the other guy had to step up and deliver a great performance to keep up with Joe. It's what I like to call the Al Snow Effect. Al Snow is a great worker, put him in the ring with a talent and he shines like a mother fucking, in with a dud and he bombs. Luckly for Joe he hasn't run across any duds yet..but wait...just wait.

Flashman#2 09-30-2005 10:49 PM

I would be careful about your words if I was you. Cause I know how to use the red dot system


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