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Evil Vito 10-03-2005 05:28 PM

2005 MLB Playoffs Thread
 
<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, so VEL mentioned there should be a separate thread...so I guess the other one can be unstickyed now that the season is through, plus it'll be easier to sort playoff thoughts and whatnot in here.

Eh, I guess I'll get this started by reposting my preditctions from the other thread

<b><u>LDS</u></b>
-San Diego Padres @ St. Louis Cardinals (Cards should take this one EASILY because the Padres suck)
-Houston Astros @ Atlanta Braves (Awesome pitching vs. about 15 rookies in the pressure of the playoffs....I like the Stros here)
-New York Yankees @ Anaheim Angels (Definately the hardest 1st round series to predict, IMO....but I'll go with the Yanks)
-Boston Red Sox @ Chicago White Sox (Red Sox will probably pull through here)

<b><u>LCS (ie: 2004 rehash)</u></b>
-Houston Astros @ St. Louis Cardinals (Cards)
-Boston Red Sox @ New York Yankees (After last year, this is too hard to predict...but it doesn't matter because I think..)

<b><u>WS</u></b>
-St. Louis Cardinals @ Whoever (Cards)

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I hope I'm wrong about another Yanks/Sox ALCS....but I can unfortunately see it happening :-\

I'd love to see the Pads pull a 1973 Mets and make it to the WS with such a bad record in comparison to the other teams, but that's more than unlikely</font>

The Miz 10-03-2005 05:31 PM

ALDS
New York > LA 3-1
Chicago > Boston 3-2

NLDS
Houston > Atlanta 3-2
St. Louis > San Deigo 4-0

ALCS
New York > Chicago 4-1

MVP: Mariano Rivera

NLCS
St. Louis > Houston 4-2

MVP: Albert Pujols

WS
New York > St. Louis 4-1

MVP: Hideki Matsui

Joey Slugs 10-03-2005 06:26 PM

ALDS
Yankees/Angels - Yankees in 5
White Sox/Red Sox - White Sox in 4

ALCS
White Sox/Yankees - White Sox in 6

NLDS
Cardinals/Padres - Cardinals in 4
Braves/Astros - Astros in 5

NLCS
Cardinals/Astros - Astros in 7

WORLD SERIES
White Sox/Astros - White Sox in 6

OssMan 10-03-2005 07:22 PM

GO WHITESOXX

RoXer 10-03-2005 09:55 PM

I dunno

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan
GO WHITESOXX

i love you assman.

FakeLaser 10-04-2005 02:10 AM

NL Division Series:

St. Louis over San Diego (3-1) : San Diego is barely a .500 team, St. Louis has the best record in baseball. Peavy will outduel Carpenter though.
Houston over Atlanta (3-0) : There's no way Atlanta is going to beat Clemens, Oswalt and Pettite.

AL Division Series:

New York over Los Angeles (3-1): I feel like Mussina is going to get shelled in Game 1. Chacon and Lackey will have a nice duel, with the Yankees winning. Johnson will shut down Anaheim while the Yankees destroy Washburn. Aaron Small always manages to win, so he'll win game 4 no matter what, not that the Yanks should have trouble with Santana or Byrd.

Chicago over Boston (3-2): Pitching and solid defense will prevail over an amazing offense.

NLCS
St. Louis over Houston (4-3): If Houston had a solid number 4 starter they'd win this series.

ALCS
New York over Chicago (4-1): The Yankees will just totally outslug the White Sox.

World Series
New York over St. Louis (4-3): It could really go either way, just picking New York because I'm a Yankee fan.

BCWWF 10-04-2005 02:15 AM

<!-- icon and title -->
<!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message -->ALDS
New York > LA 3-1
Chicago > Boston 3-2

NLDS
Atlanta > Houston 3-2
St. Louis > San Deigo 3-2

ALCS
New York > Chicago 4-1

NLCS
St. Louis > Atlanta 4-2

WS
New York > St. Louis 4-2

MVP: Alex Rodriguez

Mine is basically the same as Miz, except Atlanta.

VonErich Lives 10-04-2005 01:20 PM

ALDS
New York < LA 3-2
Chicago < Boston 3-1

NLDS
Houston > Atlanta 3-1
St. Louis > San Deigo 3-0

ALCS
LA > Boston 4-2

MVP: Francisco Rodriguez

NLCS
St. Louis < Houston 4-2

MVP: Pettite.

WS
Houston > LA 4-3

MVP: Berkman

Dragon 10-04-2005 02:58 PM

ALDS
New York > LA 3-2
Boston > Chicago 3-1

NLDS
Houston > Atlanta 3-2
St. Louis > San Deigo 3-1

ALCS
New York > Chicago 4-2

NLCS
St. Louis > Houston 4-2

WS
New York > St. Louis 4-2

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeRazor
AL Division Series:
Chicago over Boston (3-2): Pitching and solid defense will prevail over an amazing offense.

ALCS
New York over Chicago (4-1): The Yankees will just totally outslug the White Sox.

I understand that you are a Yankees fan and that this is your opinion, but if the Chicago pitching staff can shut down baseball's best offense (Boston) how will they get outsluged by New York?

Just wondering.

Evil Vito 10-04-2005 05:16 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Holy crap, the Cards/Pads game actually ended up being exciting at the end

They nearly blew an 8-0 lead and were up 8-5 in the 9th with the bases juiced before Isringhausen struck out Hernandez to end it</font>

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 06:17 PM

Let's Go White Sox, Let's Go!

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 06:19 PM

(sticky this thread and un-stick the regular season one)

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 06:41 PM

Clement got shelled. Game is far from over though.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 06:42 PM

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD........YES!

8 - 2 CHICAGO

Nervous Ferret 10-04-2005 06:43 PM

GO WHITESOXX

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nervous Ferret
GO WHITE SOX

:y::y:

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 07:30 PM

12-2 White Sox

3 run HR by Scotty Pods.

I LiVE FOR THiS

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 07:52 PM

Boston, meet your ass whooping.

Ass whooping, meet Boston.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 07:55 PM

New ALDS record: 5 HRs

14-2 Chicago.

OssMan 10-04-2005 08:10 PM

THAT BALL HIT BAD

GET UP

STRETCH

STRETCH

IT WILL

HE LOOKS UP

YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD

YES

OssMan 10-04-2005 08:11 PM

LOL you know Red Sox are getting torched though when Podsednik hits one :o

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan
LOL you know Red Sox are getting torched though when Podsednik hits one :o

Amen to that my friend.

The Miz 10-04-2005 08:23 PM

I don't hate the White Sox nearly as much when they're on ESPN and don't have to listen to the 2 fanboy morons on WGN

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
I don't hate the White Sox nearly as much when they're on ESPN and don't have to listen to the 2 fanboy morons on WGN

Being from Chicago and as a lifelong White Sox fan, I can't fucking stand Daren Jackson as the TV color guy. I watch the games on TV with the mute on and I listen to the best radio duo in sports on ESPN1000: Ed Farmer & John Rooney.

VonErich Lives 10-04-2005 08:50 PM

Well, we remember what happened last year after the Sox got a butt whopping :)

I figured they'd drop 1 to the White Sox, and Clement was most likely.

Wouldn't be shocked if the sox advance to see Arroyo start in his place, on problem is, Clement hasn't come in relief and arroyo has. I'm just glad Francona kinda let it happen and didn't blow the entire bullpen.

Tomorow should be a good game, probably low scoring. Wells v. Buehrle.

I'm not worried yet. Sox lose tomorrow, then it's worry time, but the key is to split the first 2, that takes away the "home field" advantage.

BCWWF 10-04-2005 08:55 PM

The White Sox spanked the BoSox. There was some idea that the White Sox could never win just because they are the White Sox, but its just an example of the media bias. The Red Sox got all the coverage so you just assume that they will dominante, but they got handed to them today.

Joey Slugs was going off about the time of the game, but actually that may have even helped the Whites, because of all those fucked up shadows. Just a thought.

Finally, its not going to get any easier for Boston, Buehlre and Garcia aren't much of a step down. I think Boston will come back and make it interesting, but its just funny how the White Sox were just kind of expected to bow out by so many people.

VonErich Lives 10-04-2005 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
The White Sox spanked the BoSox. There was some idea that the White Sox could never win just because they are the White Sox, but its just an example of the media bias. The Red Sox got all the coverage so you just assume that they will dominante, but they got handed to them today.

Joey Slugs was going off about the time of the game, but actually that may have even helped the Whites, because of all those fucked up shadows. Just a thought.

Finally, its not going to get any easier for Boston, Buehlre and Garcia aren't much of a step down. I think Boston will come back and make it interesting, but its just funny how the White Sox were just kind of expected to bow out by so many people.

It's like anything else though, the people you refer to have no clue what they're talking about.

Anyone who has watched the sox knows Clement has had a horrible 2nd half and his delivery has been off since getting hit in the head, plus you can steel at will and the White Sox play small ball.

I must admit, the Teck but was a nice suprise/move and I wonder if Millar didn't get out at 3rd if they might have kept the rally going.

That being said, the pitching for the White Sox doesn't get easier, but the flip side is the Sox pitching gets much better. Wells, Wakefield & Schilling.

I figured sox take it 3-1, and the 1 loss being one of the two in Chicago, and it being Clement doesn't suprise me.

Sox bounce back tomorrow and it's a best 2/3 and the sox have 2 of those at home.

that being said, putting up all those runs is a huge ego boost for the White Sox and should give them a lot of confidence.

Gonna be fun!

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:05 PM

I think I'll take back everything I have said about the start times. Even after today's record breaking day, I think I like having the White Sox play early. It still gives us that "not enough repsect/underdog" look.

You are right BCWWF, the game wasn't supposed to end like it did. And you are spot on about it not getting easier for the Red Sox. They now have to deal with our core: Buehrle, Garland, & Garcia.

I would not be suprised to see Boston get swept right out of the first round (I doubt it, but our pitching is just that damn good). Take a nice few days rest while LA and NY beat eachother up.

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 09:08 PM

BCWWF: please shut up about the East Coast media bias already. You've only mentioned it 12 times. We get it.

Anyway, I love FOX's video packages throughout the playoffs. Gets me pumped. And I :heart: Joe Buck. Well here we gooooo

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives
That being said, the pitching for the White Sox doesn't get easier, but the flip side is the Sox pitching gets much better. Wells, Wakefield & Schilling.

If you get to Wells early, he gets rattled and that curve starts to hang.

The White Sox aren't afraid of the knuckle and have hit Wakefield very hard the last few matchups.

Schilling is not the Schilling from last year. He has the grit and toughness but will that be enough? He might not even see action in the 05 playoffs.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Anyway, I love FOX's video packages throughout the playoffs. Gets me pumped. And I :heart: Joe Buck. Well here we gooooo

I cant wait to hear/see how much New York's collective ass gets kissed tonight.

Fuck the east coast.

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 09:14 PM

it's really starting to come off as bitterness if anything

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:18 PM

it's not bitterness. all these two do is kiss the Yankees ass throughout the game. Even when Boston started their comeback last year, they were still riding high on the Yanks... even to the very end.

You are a NY fan, so you don't see it that way because you enjoy them talking about your team. It just annoys the fuck out of me. I'm glad that if the White Sox keep advancing I can just tune into our home radio team.

BCWWF 10-04-2005 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
BCWWF: please shut up about the East Coast media bias already.

Joey Slugs was talking about how it was bad for the White Sox, but I added that the shadows during midday may be helpful to the White Sox.

Also, I find it a valid point that everybody expected the White Sox to be a dud because the Red Sox have been hyped up all year, but the Sox had the best record and the best staff in the year. That isn't me bitching about the media, it is me laughing at the people who don't know better and believe it.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:28 PM

Just a little respect for my team. That's all I ask.

But in my own little way, I like having the underdogs (1 win off the best record in baseball mind you) to root for. Today was just an amazing game and there is a good chance that I will at the game tomorrow.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
Joey Slugs was talking about how it was bad for the White Sox, but I added that the shadows during midday may be helpful to the White Sox.

I didn't say it was bad for us. I was just pissed that we didn't get the national game on the opening night.

It works out for us to play in the afternoon the next two games though because of how good Buehrle and Garcia are during day games.

BCWWF 10-04-2005 09:33 PM

Also, its kind of interesting how the AL represents basically the biggest markets in the US.

1. New York, 2. Los Angeles, 3. Chicago, and 5. Boston.

BCWWF 10-04-2005 09:34 PM

Does it help the White Sox to have those big shadows, or does is fuck with both teams?

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
Also, its kind of interesting how the AL represents basically the biggest markets in the US.

1. New York, 2. Los Angeles, 3. Chicago, and 5. Boston.

the top 3 also have NL teams as well, just in the playoffs this year.

BCWWF 10-04-2005 09:36 PM

If Philly made the playoffs you would have 1-5

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:36 PM

i'll say this much... i can care less who is playing right now. Fox's HD coverage is fucking amazing.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:37 PM

.......Kennedy. :lol:

Dragon 10-04-2005 09:38 PM

3-run double by Cano in the first. Going to be interesting to see what Mussina we will get tonight.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:39 PM

When it comes to Moose... it's a guessing game. He was the same way in Baltimore.

The Miz 10-04-2005 09:44 PM

lol god the Angels are such a joke. They're offense sucks and their pitching is overrated.

But hey, Chone Figgins can play 3 positions!!!!!!!!!

BCWWF 10-04-2005 09:45 PM

Damn, people are watching the west wing, I want to watch this game.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
lol god the Angels are such a joke. They're offense sucks and their pitching is overrated.

But hey, Chone Figgins can play 3 positions!!!!!!!!!

and Seattle finished where exactly in that division? :lol:

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
Damn, people are watching the west wing, I want to watch this game.

you need to go find another tv. pronto.

BCWWF 10-04-2005 10:07 PM

I agree with Miz though, I don't think people know very much about Anahiem because nobody really gives a shit about the AL West (I hate to beat the dead horse LC, so I'll refrain from going on about that :p) but really Colon isn't unhittable, the other starters aren't amazing, and really Garrett Anderson and those guys aren't that good.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 10:10 PM

I really want the Yankees to win this series (but I hope it goes 5 games) because it will get back to one of the greatest rivalries in sports: Chicago/New York (as long as we get through Boston).

If you think about it, outside of the fans hating each other, Boston/New York was never a big deal until recently. One of the great fights for dominance in baseball history has always be the White Sox and Yanks.

When the Yanks were going through their glory days in the 50s and 60s, who was fighting them tooth and nail the entire time? Not Boston (who where bottomfeeders for so long). It was Chicago.

If not for horrible ownership and bad managing, the White Sox might be giving NY a run for their money when it comes to total championships.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
I agree with Miz though, I don't think people know very much about Anahiem because nobody really gives a shit about the AL West

unless you live there.

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 10:25 PM

26 Championships to 2. That's not even a little close. I mean, if you're gonna say that, we can just say "insert team" could of gave the Yankees a run for total championships if it wasn't for bad managing and ownership.

well that and players throwing ball games

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 10:27 PM

and go back and look at all the 2nd place finishes from Chicago from the late 50's to early 60's. The only time they were even close to the Yankees was in '64

BCWWF 10-04-2005 11:01 PM

I thought I read somewhere that the White Sox haven't won a World Series ever? Or was it just that the last time they won was before the Cubs?

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF
I thought I read somewhere that the White Sox haven't won a World Series ever? Or was it just that the last time they won was before the Cubs?

The Sox won in 1917

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 11:05 PM

1917 was the last one. Then they threw the 1919 one and got there once after that.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
1917 was the last one. Then they threw the 1919 one and got there once after that.

Yeah, we lost to the Dodgers in '59

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 11:07 PM

THE GO GO SOX

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:13 PM

yeah, we've had some cool slogans over the years.

:lol: @ the fact that, unless they do something quick, 2008 will mark a 100 year championship drought for the boys in cubbie blue.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:14 PM

they actually play the old "GO GO SOX" fight song during home games this year.

The Miz 10-04-2005 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Slugs
and Seattle finished where exactly in that division? :lol:

I'm assuming this is a VEL impression, if so :y:

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 11:29 PM

wtf kind of a call was that. you steal with Vlad when you're down 4-0 with AL Leiter on the mound. Real smart

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 11:30 PM

and I'm implying Leiter is not good, so why even take a chance wit that.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:32 PM

Vlad was safe, but you are right... why the fuck was he running?

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 11:33 PM

he's out just for being a dumbass

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:34 PM

:lol:

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:34 PM

smart move by Jeter selling the tag.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:36 PM

i can't believe that Peavy is out for the rest of the playoffs from an injury he got from the celebration after clinching the NL west.

Dragon 10-04-2005 11:45 PM

Sturtze continues to be ineffective.

I remember last year, and earlier this year for a little bit when there was Sturtze-Gordon-Rivera that were reliable in the back of the pen. Now its basically down to Gordon-Rivera.

Loose Cannon 10-04-2005 11:48 PM

god I thought that was gone

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:50 PM

man... these "scanner darkly-like" commercials freak me out.

Joey Slugs 10-04-2005 11:53 PM

happy new year to all our jew friends here.

Loose Cannon 10-05-2005 12:18 AM

oh fuck. classic Rivera breakdiwn right here

Joey Slugs 10-05-2005 12:24 AM

the one downfall of games on Fox is that the game tonight was a 2 hour 20 min game played out in almost 3 and a half hours.

VonErich Lives 10-05-2005 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey Slugs
If you get to Wells early, he gets rattled and that curve starts to hang.

The White Sox aren't afraid of the knuckle and have hit Wakefield very hard the last few matchups.

Schilling is not the Schilling from last year. He has the grit and toughness but will that be enough? He might not even see action in the 05 playoffs.

and if Manny and Ortiz get in a car accident on their way to work...

If you're going to predict, you look at what's most probably, not what's "possible"

Wells has been strong the last month and is used to "pressure" actually, seems to do better under it.

Wakefield has been the team ace all year and has had like 1 bad outing in a month or two.

Schilling has been hot/cold but does better at Fenway.

Red Sox take today and 2 at home. Then again, 2yrs ago they droped the first 2 and took 3 in a row from Oakland, so anything is possible. (and no, The White Sox don't have better pitching then Oakland did).

Side Note: BCWWF - Media Bias, I like Joe Buck, Timmy is clearly a yankee butt swab. That being saidm it's not a east coast bias for the media, it's TV markets, plain and simple. As for the Sox getting all this hype? Yeah, when they play the yanks it sells and also, they are the defending champs! (small detail you seem to forget) Both reasons for extra coverage. That being said, if you watch the coverage you see the shape the pitching, especially then pen is in and understand they don't have the best chances unless someone comes up huge.

While I still stick by my LA pick, none of these 4 would shock me to go to the WS and well, then lose to Hou or STL.

BCWWF 10-05-2005 11:36 AM

Quote:

Side Note: BCWWF - Media Bias, I like Joe Buck, Timmy is clearly a yankee butt swab. That being saidm it's not a east coast bias for the media, it's TV markets, plain and simple. As for the Sox getting all this hype? Yeah, when they play the yanks it sells and also, they are the defending champs! (small detail you seem to forget) Both reasons for extra coverage. That being said, if you watch the coverage you see the shape the pitching, especially then pen is in and understand they don't have the best chances unless someone comes up huge.
I understand the markets, they go something like this.

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padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2,925,560</td> <td x:num="2.6539999999999999" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2.654</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 13.2pt;" height="18"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; height: 13.2pt; text-align: center; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" x:num="" height="18"> 5</td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;"> Boston (Manchester)</td> <td x:num="2375310" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2,375,310</td> <td x:num="2.1549999999999998" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2.155</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 13.2pt;" height="18"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; height: 13.2pt; text-align: center; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" x:num="" height="18"> 6</td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;"> San Francisco-Oak-San Jose</td> <td x:num="2355740" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2,355,740</td> <td x:num="2.137" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2.137</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 13.2pt;" height="18"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; height: 13.2pt; text-align: center; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" x:num="" height="18"> 7</td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;"> Dallas-Ft. Worth</td> <td x:num="2336140" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2,336,140</td> <td x:num="" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2.120</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 13.2pt;" height="18"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; height: 13.2pt; text-align: center; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" x:num="" height="18"> 8</td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;"> Washington, DC (Hagrstwn)</td> <td x:num="2252550" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2,252,550</td> <td x:num="2.044" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2.044</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 13.2pt;" height="18"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; height: 13.2pt; text-align: center; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" x:num="" height="18"> 9</td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;"> Atlanta</td> <td x:num="2097220" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 2,097,220</td> <td x:num="1.903" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 1.903</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 13.2pt;" height="18"> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; height: 13.2pt; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; text-align: center; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" x:num="" height="18"> 10</td> <td style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;"> Houston</td> <td x:num="1938670" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 1,938,670</td> <td x:num="1.7589999999999999" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: bottom; white-space: nowrap;" align="right"> 1.759</td></tr></tbody> </table>
Only two of those are in the "North East" that Loose Cannon described in another thread, but I would consider Phily and Washington D.C. "North East"

BCWWF 10-05-2005 11:37 AM

It wouldn't let me post my whole message.


So obviously its not because all of the fans are up there. It was never me complaining about the Yankee's game, that was Joey Slugs, frankly I don't think that matters much who was prime time last night.

It is obvious that the media gives more attention to the north east teams, specifically those in New York and Boston. That is a bias, even if you don't think its bad that is a bias. There are a few good reasons for that, one because they are two of the biggest markets in the U.S., another because they both usually have good teams, three because they usually have pretty consistent fans, and four because ESPN and most other networks are based out of New York or very near to it.

Nowthen, when I was complaining about the "east coast bias" it was during the regular season, when there was rediculous coverage on a meaning less series between the Yankees and the Sox. I was just pointing out how come playoff time it distorts everybodys vision about whats going on. Basically all we know about the Angels is that Vlad is amazing and Colon "should" be the Cy Young winner because he has a lot of wins. But really they aren't that good of a team, most likely a first round upset. Then the other one is that people were expecting the White Sox to fold like a bad hand, because even though they are in the third biggest market they are a "small market team" and the Red Sox were hyped up all season as the greatest, and thats how the majority of the US saw them. So now the Angels are going to get spanked and the White Sox are doing some spanking, and everybody is surprised because this is all new to them.

I think sports would be a lot better if a West Coast sports network came up, because the way ESPN works is that is has to cater to that area. With time zones and all that, it makes it impossible for them to give the time of day to the West Coast and Texas and all of them, so if there was another predominantly West Coast network, maybe it would work out then. Just a thought.

For the most part I think ESPN is great, it was just that night when they played the Curt Schilling blood tape and made it into a five minute feature for a meaningless series that he wasn't even pitching in, and that was one of like five different features that night.

Loose Cannon 10-05-2005 12:14 PM

I agree with your points about ESPN and baseball, but what about the other sports. Do you think ESPN tends to favor certain teams over others?

Loose Cannon 10-05-2005 12:56 PM

dam, 10:00 est start tonight. I hate these late games

Joey Slugs 10-05-2005 01:50 PM

ESPN Triple-header. Gotta love playoff baseball.

Hardkore Kidd J 10-05-2005 01:51 PM

ALDG

White Sox > Red Sox 3-2 [ The first round is a best of five series I think. Basically I'm actually cheering Chicago in this match up at least frankly I would cheer anyone who is facing the Red Sox just to get Boston out of the playoffs]


Yanks > Angels 3-1

NLDG

Braves < Astros 3-1

Cards > Padres 4-0

ALCS

Yankees > White Sox 4-3 [Chicago is a real good team but the way I see Yankees are going to take it in game 7 sorry Joey Slugs]

NLCS

Cards > Astros

WS

Yankees > Cards 4-3 [Once again another real close one]

Loose Cannon 10-05-2005 01:53 PM

LOL, scroll down to Game 3 and watch the 4th video.

My favorite playoff moment ever

http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NAS...p?view=bos_oak

Loose Cannon 10-05-2005 01:54 PM

well next to the Aaron Boone thing :shifty:

Joey Slugs 10-05-2005 01:55 PM

i remember that. good one LC

Joey Slugs 10-05-2005 01:56 PM

no need to be sorry Hardkore, they are your picks.

Joey Slugs 10-05-2005 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
well next to the Aaron Boone thing :shifty:

He should of stayed with the Reds. Not because of the HR against Boston, but because he ended up being a thorn in our side with Cleveland.

The Miz 10-05-2005 03:57 PM

VEL you can't tell me you are honestly picking the Angels. They are awful.

BCWWF 10-05-2005 04:06 PM

LC, with other sports I don't think its the same for a couple reasons.

1. Basketball has been dominated by L.A., Sacramento, Texas, and other western teams.

2. As for the NBA and NFL, they are nationally shown on other networks.

The NBA on TNT is awful, mainly the playoffs. When you start a HOME game at 10 p.m. on a weeknight, you are just bad.

But yeah, Yankees/White Sox ALCS, Yankees probably win, lose to Cards in WS.

OssMan 10-05-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
LOL, scroll down to Game 3 and watch the 4th video.

My favorite playoff moment ever

http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NAS...p?view=bos_oak

why dont any of them work

VonErich Lives 10-05-2005 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
VEL you can't tell me you are honestly picking the Angels. They are awful.

Awful enough to make the playoffs and win their division.

Yeah, there my pick... not a strong pick, honestly I think it's a crap shoot and wouldn't put money on any of the 4.

Based on season performance, their pitching looks the best.

Yanks starters have been shakey, sox entire rotation and pen have been shakey and I just don't see the White Sox getting it done.

VonErich Lives 10-05-2005 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
LOL, scroll down to Game 3 and watch the 4th video.

My favorite playoff moment ever

http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NAS...p?view=bos_oak


Don't have "all access" so can't see it.

Was this before or after one of my favorite moments when Byrnes missed home plate, then rather then trying to go for the plate, pushed Teck (who had the ball and tagged him out).

Still one of my LMFAO fav's :)

Nervous Ferret 10-05-2005 07:11 PM

yeah, it is when Byrnes slid right over home plate.

Loose Cannon 10-05-2005 07:14 PM

I don't have all access eathier. All you need is a real player. Unless I somehow magically have all access

Nervous Ferret 10-05-2005 07:16 PM

works for me, but I thinks yous gots ta have Real Player

OssMan 10-05-2005 07:57 PM

WOOO LETS GO BRAVES

Joey Slugs 10-05-2005 08:22 PM

let's get to this fat fuck early.

The Miz 10-05-2005 09:35 PM

LOL @ Tony Bucknernino

Hardkore Kidd J 10-05-2005 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonErich Lives
Awful enough to make the playoffs and win their division.

Yeah, there my pick... not a strong pick, honestly I think it's a crap shoot and wouldn't put money on any of the 4.

Based on season performance, their pitching looks the best.

Yanks starters have been shakey, sox entire rotation and pen have been shakey and I just don't see the White Sox getting it done.

Let me ask you a question because I was almost positive you were a Red Sox fan like a month ago did you like lose a bet in which you had to put a Yankeees avatar up or something? Becuase I was almost positive you were the one who had the avatar of David Ortiz getting drencehed with champaine from last year's world Series. Like I said I could be wrong. If I am then my bad.


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