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spunkynut 01-06-2006 01:13 PM

The Juice, has been released
 
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/juventudreleased

"Juventud released

World Wrestling Entertainment and Juventud have to terms on a release from his contract. WWE wishes Juventud the best in all future endeavors."

:nono:

Xero 01-06-2006 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkynut
http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/juventudreleased

"Juventud released

World Wrestling Entertainment and Juventud have to terms on a release from his contract. WWE wishes Juventud the best in all future nude escapades."

:nono:


CharismaInjection 01-06-2006 01:17 PM

So, what for Pscicosis & Super Crazy? They not gonna notice their leader is missing?

I'm going to a show and chanting 'Where's the Juice! Where's the Juice!'

Xero 01-06-2006 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharismaInjection
So, what for Pscicosis & Super Crazy? They not gonna notice their leader is missing?

I'm going to a show and chanting 'Where's the Juice! Where's the Juice!'

They're going to redebut as Terrell and Jamar Black.

McLegend 01-06-2006 01:20 PM

This is terrible

NoRoolz 01-06-2006 01:20 PM

NO.

Y3J 01-06-2006 01:21 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Xero 01-06-2006 01:23 PM

What were they doing with Juvi? Jack shit. The WWE might as well release 2/3rds of their roster. They only wrestle like once a month, and I'm sure they could fill those watered down segments with a Triple H promo.

Cool King 01-06-2006 01:25 PM

Yeah I just read it, I'm not bothered by it.:-\

ThruTheWire 01-06-2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King
Yeah I just read it, I'm not bothered by it.:-\

I'd much rather see someone else take his TV time.

Skippord 01-06-2006 01:28 PM

GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY. I bet they didnt tell Vince yet.

CharismaInjection 01-06-2006 01:29 PM

I saw it coming as there was a new Juvi heat story every week, I just worry for the rest of The Mexiccols now cuz I'm a big fan of Super Crazy and Psicosis, but it seems WWE lacks faith in them as they made Juvi get the real push.

Shadow 01-06-2006 01:30 PM

Wow....that's just expected.

Honestly...how long was the Juice going to last with his antics?

RGWhat316 01-06-2006 01:35 PM

I really can't say that I am surprised when you hear of how crazy this guy is with all of his backstage antics.

Enjay 01-06-2006 01:47 PM

About time. I'm surprised JBL didn't beat him up on his way out.

6to1 01-06-2006 02:02 PM

i saw it coming dude stole moves and the only one who would go to shows with him was cowboy bob. maby tna will take him.

William Regal 01-06-2006 02:18 PM

This is not a major surprise but he was talented enough and maybe he will find work with TNA. After all that is where all the WWE rejects go.

UmbrellaCorporation 01-06-2006 02:19 PM

Good. Can't stand Juvi.

If he's pulling backstage shit every week, he deserved to be let go. Good riddance.

Rob 01-06-2006 02:23 PM

He is better off out of the WWE. When he is on his game, he is easy top 10 best wrestlers in the world. Bollocks to his attitude. He doesn't refuse to do jobs so who cares? He and the rest of the Mexicools are stale working "WWE style". That same style robs them of all their creative juices and they become just another Smackdown wrestler at that point. They all need to be working in an environment where they can use their talents. That can be said for a bunch of underused and under utilised WWE talent - Van Dam, Paul Birchill, Chavo Guerrero all spring to mind.

Gertner 01-06-2006 02:43 PM

hahaha doesn't surprise me. Bye Juvy take you and your attitude back to TNA

Savio 01-06-2006 02:50 PM

Well atleast it got Kid Kash the title.

The One 01-06-2006 02:51 PM

God I pray that Juvi gets picked up by TNA. Juvi is quite frankly (attitude or not) one of the best wrestlers active today.

Rob 01-06-2006 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior
Well atleast it got Kid Kash the title.

Yeah the crusierweight with a worse attitude!

Savio 01-06-2006 03:48 PM

I like title changes.

6to1 01-06-2006 03:51 PM

well maby kash cleaned up his act, but still you would figure they would put the belt on someone who has not had a problem in the last year.

Sephiroth 01-06-2006 03:57 PM

Yeah, i just read that on WWE.com.

Pretty stupid move, if you ask me.

They can use the star power on Smackdown, imo. But they rather have a GIANT MONKY..erm i mean Mark Henry then a skilled wrestler like Juve.

Oh well, we'll see him back on TNA.

6to1 01-06-2006 04:01 PM

about kash did he piss off dusty when he left tna if he did that suprises me more he got the belt since dusty is writing for the wwe now.

Corkscrewed 01-06-2006 04:02 PM

LMAO. Well, who didn't see this coming?

Oh well, this ain't the last we've heard from The Juice, so he'll continue to entertain us from elsewhere.

jerichoholic169 01-06-2006 04:04 PM

this is about a month later than i was expecting but hey its the WWE i guess.

Shame though as i was quite looking forward to that mask-vs-mask match he wanted to do with rey-rey....

CharismaInjection 01-06-2006 04:28 PM

I guess:

THE JUICE HAS BEEN SET LOOSE!!!

Zen v.W.o. 01-06-2006 04:34 PM

Good.

Londoner 01-06-2006 04:34 PM

Having read this in another thread I was shocked at first, but after reading this one I can see why he was released.

Blitz 01-06-2006 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UmbrellaCorporation
Good. Can't stand Juvi.

If he's pulling backstage shit every week, he deserved to be let go. Good riddance.


The Power 01-06-2006 05:28 PM

The Power has no sympathy for Juvi....The Juice was useless...RRAAAAARRRRRRR SNOOOOOORT

Loose Cannon 01-06-2006 05:28 PM

darn

alvarado52 01-06-2006 05:29 PM

so lemme get this straight....The Juice....is loose?!??!

alvarado52 01-06-2006 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Power
The Power has no sympathy for Juvi....The Juice was useless...RRAAAAARRRRRRR SNOOOOOORT

Dang!

Eunos 01-06-2006 05:31 PM

I can't say im overly Suprised. All the backstage stories.

He had it coming.

NoRoolz 01-06-2006 05:48 PM

His match on SmackDown (last WWE match) with Kid Kash was very good IMO.

Boondock Saint 01-06-2006 05:51 PM

LOL

LK 01-06-2006 06:10 PM

Ah well it was good while it lasted.

Mr. JL 01-06-2006 06:54 PM

I'm not surprized... but I'm sure Kid Kash will soon follow in Juventud's footsteps.

Mr. JL 01-06-2006 06:54 PM

I'm not surprized... but I'm sure Kid Kash will soon follow in Juventud's footsteps.

James Steele 01-06-2006 06:56 PM

Good. I think the negatives outweighed the positives.

PullMyFinger 01-06-2006 07:14 PM

The Juice was so watered down in WWE.

Hopefully he'll go to TNA and we'll have a return of his hilarious mic work that was in WCW.

Chico 01-06-2006 07:31 PM

*spoilers*

In the last few months, Guerrera reportedly burnt many bridges with several WWE wrestlers after they tried speaking with him about his actions only to see Juventud blow them off. The feeling by many WWE workers was that it was only a matter of time that he would get released by WWE. One recent report has indicated that the "last straw" after a series of warnings by WWE management to Juventud took place at the SmackDown tapings this past Tuesday in Wilkes Barre, PA when Juventud and Kid Kash went over their scheduled match by many minutes.

Credit: Mike Johnson @ PWInsider.com

Marc the Smark 01-06-2006 09:41 PM

He botched a 450 splash, which almost crushed Paul London's face, and continued to do moves that he was explicitly told to avoid. He also defied management by using certain guestures and mannerisms in the ring, claming he needed them to get himself over. Even stablemates Psicosis and Super Crazy had been getting sick of Juventud's ways recently and tried to distance themselves from him. Yet some of you want to praise this guy?!? He got exactly what he was asking for.

The Naitch 01-06-2006 09:45 PM

I'm LOLing and crying at the same time

Danny Electric 01-06-2006 10:00 PM

So this is how we get punished for getting to watch a good match.

Marc the Smark 01-06-2006 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric
So this is how we get punished for getting to watch a good match.

I'll repeat what I wrote earlier.

He botched a 450 splash, which almost crushed Paul London's face.

You call that a good match?

Danny Electric 01-06-2006 10:20 PM

I meant the match with Kid Kash.

Marc the Smark 01-06-2006 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric
I meant the match with Kid Kash.

from Armageddon?

St. Jimmy 01-06-2006 10:29 PM

lmao. i didn't think this was a serious post.
i was expecting "from my shorts" as the first post.

no one saw this coming =/

FourFifty 01-07-2006 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow
Wow....that's just expected.

Honestly...how long was the Juice going to last with his antics?

Normally I think Shadow is a fucking moron, but I gotta say I see eye to eye with what he said about The Juice. With the shit he has tried to pull off, and the shit he has... Yeah, this isn't something shocking.

Kane Knight 01-07-2006 12:39 AM

Normally being a prick backstage just brings you into the inner circle.

BigDaddyCool 01-07-2006 01:11 AM

omg no....wait, he was still employeed there?

Mr. Nerfect 01-07-2006 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Normally being a prick backstage just brings you into the inner circle.

:lol:

Poor Juvi. That guy was awesome, at least he can run wild in TNA. When the guy gets going he's great. He botched a 450 Splash, so what. London's botched stuff, too. It happens. Juvi was good in the ring, and it's a shame they had to let him go, but he kinda brought it upon himself.

At least now they can give Funaki a solid push towards the title... :-\

NeoGeo 01-07-2006 04:24 AM

he's better off in TNA anyway. it's not like WWE was using him really.

Rob 01-07-2006 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alienoid06
:lol:

Poor Juvi. That guy was awesome, at least he can run wild in TNA. When the guy gets going he's great. He botched a 450 Splash, so what. London's botched stuff, too. It happens.

Exactly. Finally someone with a bit of common sense.

Chavo Classic 01-07-2006 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alienoid06
...When the guy gets going he's great. He botched a 450 Splash, so what. London's botched stuff, too. It happens.

You're missing the point though. Yes, people make mistakes and botches do happen. Wrestlers don't get fired becasue they botch (otherwise Lita would be a regular at the social security office). People get fired because they botch moves which management have told them specifically not to do.

It'd be like a McDonald's employee burning his hand accidentally on the grill. He wouldn't get fired for that. But if he burnt his hand (and put fellow employees at risk also) for messing round with the grill and doing stuff he has been told specifically not to do then he'd be fired.

Juvi screwed Juvi. Which is a dam shame because he's an excellent talent.

James Steele 01-07-2006 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Exactly. Finally someone with a bit of common sense.

Does Paul London act like a fucking egomaniacle ass backstage? NO.

BobBitchen 01-07-2006 07:54 PM

Good riddence to bad rubbish :wave: :lol:

Rob 01-08-2006 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesSteele
Does Paul London act like a fucking egomaniacle ass backstage? NO.

What's that gotta do with anything? There are guys I work with who I don't get on with but as long as they do their work to the standard expected and don't fuck it up for others then it's none of my business. Why is pro wrestling any different?

Chavo Classic 01-08-2006 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
What's that gotta do with anything? There are guys I work with who I don't get on with but as long as they do their work to the standard expected and don't fuck it up for others then it's none of my business. Why is pro wrestling any different?

But when the guy who's acting like the cock backstage is a bona fide star and has been around for a while then they can get away with it. Juvi didn't because he was a relative newbie.

Using your analogy, it'd be like your boss acting like a cunt and getting away with it because he/she is integral to the company, and then some temp turning up late and arsing around with the photocopier and getting fired... because he's a fucking temp!

Rob 01-08-2006 09:33 AM

Not that's not the same at all. Your boss is your boss and if he doesn't stop your work then there ain't a problem. Temps breaking machines affects work and thus deserves punishment. If Juvi went and smashed up 6 monitors for the sake of it then you'd have a point. You don't have to get on with people to be good at your job. Nobody complained about HHH in 2000 because he was working his arse off and was probably the wrestler of the year. It's when his work went downhill and he used his politics to stop others performing to their potential that people went sour on him.

Chavo Classic 01-08-2006 09:41 AM

But HHH and JBL would be the proverbial shift managers or team leaders in the department who have cemented themselves in the company (for whatever reason, whether it be politicing or hard work) and are therefore forgiven for most of their misdemeanors. Meanwhile, Juvi has new to the company. His CV already showed he was a bit of a loose cannon and when you directly disobey instructions and fuck around with the monitors, photocopier or look at porn on the internet, you're gonna find yourself without a job very soon.

Chavo Classic 01-08-2006 09:42 AM

...and trust me, I've been both the HHH and the Juvi of companies at different times.

Rob 01-08-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chavo Classic
But HHH and JBL would be the proverbial shift managers or team leaders in the department who have cemented themselves in the company (for whatever reason, whether it be politicing or hard work) and are therefore forgiven for most of their misdemeanors. Meanwhile, Juvi has new to the company. His CV already showed he was a bit of a loose cannon and when you directly disobey instructions and fuck around with the monitors, photocopier or look at porn on the internet, you're gonna find yourself without a job very soon.

How about sexually assulting people? Yet Randy Orton, Edge and JBL all still have jobs?

In the ring, Juvi has done the business and that's what he is paid to do.

KingofOldSchool 01-08-2006 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
Randy Orton


I shit in the bags of people who don't want to be cool.

UmbrellaCorporation 01-08-2006 10:31 AM

Randy Orton, Edge, and JBL aren't Mexican. Of course they have jobs.

:shifty:

Just John 01-08-2006 11:37 AM

X-Paco has gone :(


What backstage shit has he done, I havent heard anything about it.

Danny Electric 01-08-2006 11:45 AM

So will Mark henry get released for botching his hair?

Rob 01-08-2006 02:20 PM

And what about Randy Orton and Chris Masters for botching promos? Orton stutters so much that I think he is doing Matt Morgan's old gimmick.

Chavo Classic 01-08-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob
How about sexually assulting people? Yet Randy Orton, Edge and JBL all still have jobs?

In the ring, Juvi has done the business and that's what he is paid to do.

You're missing the point. Edge and JBL still have their jobs because they are established talents. They can get away with stupid shit like this because they've been on the roster for so long, think about what Holly does.

Juvi had to go because A) he was constantly disobeying management. He wasn't just being a nuisance of a fool, he was putting two fingers up in the air to management all together and B) he wasn't enough of a veteran or star to get away with it.

Kane Knight 01-08-2006 07:03 PM

Chavo, to make that point, you had to ignore his naming of Orton, and stretch edge's establishment.

Any time you have to take two steps to dodge someone's logic, you admit he has something you need to avoid.

Kane Knight 01-08-2006 07:05 PM

Oh, and...

"Finally, the Juice...Has come back...To the unemploy...Ment line..."


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