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The Rolling Stone 500: The 500 Greatest Songs Ever Written
I don't remember seeing a thread about this, and I don't know how old this list is, but thought it might lead to some interesting conversations.
I really like this list. I think I like it better than the list VH1 put out five or so years ago. Rolling Stone avoided a lot of the cliches, and added some truly amazing and underappreciated songs. I'm especially happy to see stuff like In My Life, Gimme Shelter, The Weight, and Norwegian Wood which didn't even make VH1's list. So, discuss! |
The Rolling Stone 500: 500 Random Songs
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Purple Haze should be higher
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Needs more (some) Metallica
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If they're the greatest songs ever WRITTEN, shouldn't the WRITERS get the credit?
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How Dirty Pop by N'Sync didn't make the list is beyond me
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Smells Like Teen Spirit is NO 9? :wtf: |
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It's all politics
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Yeah It's a great song and all, but writing? Any joker could come up with "here we are now, entertainers."
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And the lyrics to "Hey Jude" are "na na na na na na na na na na na hey Jude"
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However, I do have to give it up for Prince being on the list.
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Actually he's back to Prince now.
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Funny though.
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More to a song than lyrics, gotta give them a spot based on the catchiness of the rifts and the fact that it was a song that defined a whole culture/generation/whatever
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I liked it, until I realized that Pink Floyd wasn't mentioned until 314 with Comfortably Numb. That is just inexcusable. Rod Stewart is ranked higher with Do Ya Think I'm Sexy.
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I looked over the 500. It's a joke. Hendrix has songs way better than Purple Haze. Smells like Teen Spirit being 9 is a joke too. Seriously. Folsom Prison Blues is way to low too.
Of course, this is all subjective. But that list is still laughable. |
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Take a sad song and make it better. Remember to let her into your heart, Then you can start to make it better. Hey jude, don’t be afraid. You were made to go out and get her. The minute you let her under your skin, Then you begin to make it better. And anytime you feel the pain, hey jude, refrain, Don’t carry the world upon your shoulders. For well you know that it’s a fool who plays it cool By making his world a little colder. Hey jude, don’t let me down. You have found her, now go and get her. Remember to let her into your heart, Then you can start to make it better. So let it out and let it in, hey jude, begin, You’re waiting for someone to perform with. And don’t you know that it’s just you, hey jude, you’ll do, The movement you need is on your shoulder. Hey jude, don’t make it bad. Take a sad song and make it better. Remember to let her under your skin, Then you’ll begin to make it Better better better better better better, oh. Na na na na na ,na na na, hey jude... I rather like this song. |
Hey, he took one line from Smells Like Teen Spirit so I took one from Hey Jude. I thought that was how we judge a song's lyrics?
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Louie Louie ahead of Billie Jean? :n:
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Rolling Stone is rubbish.
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Bring your friends It’s fun to lose And to pretend She’s overboard Myself assured I know I know A dirty word Hello (x 16) With the lights out it’s less dangerous Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious Here we are now Entertain us A mulatto An albino A mosquito My libido Yea I’m worse at what I do best And for this gift I feel blessed Our little group has always been And always will until the end Hello (x 16) With the lights out it’s less dangerous Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious Here we are now Entertain us A mulatto An albino A mosquito My libido Yea And I forget Just what it takes And yet I guess it makes me smile I found it hard Its hard to find Oh well, whatever, nevermind Hello (x 16) With the lights out it’s less dangerous Here we are now Entertain us I feel stupid and contagious Here we are now Entertain us A mulatto An albino A mosquito My libido Yea Epic writing. :shifty: |
What is this song all about?
Can’t figure any lyrics out How do the words to it go? I wish you’d tell me, I don’t know Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know, oh no Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know... Now I’m mumblin’ and I’m screamin’ And I don’t know what I’m singin’ Crank the volume, ears are bleedin’ I still don’t know what I’m singin’ We’re so loud and incoherent Boy, this oughta bug your parents Yeah It’s unintel-ligible I just can’t get it through my skull It’s hard to bargle nawdle zouss(? ) With all these marbles in my mouth Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know, oh no Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know... Well, we don’t sound like madonna Here we are now, we’re nirvana Sing distinctly? we don’t wanna Buy our album, we’re nirvana A garage band from seattle Well, it sure beats raising cattle Yeah And I forgot the next verse Oh well, I guess it pays to rehearse The lyric sheet’s so hard to find What are the words? oh, nevermind Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know, oh no Don’t know, don’t know, don’t know... Well, I’m yellin’ and we’re playin’ But I don’t know what I’m sayin’ What’s the message I’m conveyin’? Can you tell me what I’m sayin’? So have you got some idea? Didn’t think so -- well, I’ll see ya Sayonara, sayonara Ayonawa, odinawa Odinaya, yodinaya Yaddayadda, yaaahyaaah Ayaaaaaah! |
hahaha Whats that from?
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Doolittle - 226 :nono:
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Why wouldnt it be high up? It's impact is undeniable, and pretty much as you see, they're the only post nineties rock band on the top 100 from what I can see. Which is why I think it's a bit biased as usual..most of the time Rolling Stone mag is, but hey..Nirvana is always ranked in the top 5 of everything..top 10 here is deserving. |
Yeah like FR said, Pink Floyd isn't even on until 314 or something, these lists are far too subjective.
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Also, I love the Who, but in terms of greatest songs ever written, My Generation is a shitty choice. Even if you're going for a big nameed song, "Who Are You" Or "Baba O'Reilley" are MUCH better choices, and everyone STILL knows them.
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In case anyone was wondering, the list was created by a bunch of writers, musicians, and industry people, not just by Rolling Stone.
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How did Smells like Teen Spirit redefine a generation? Nirvana is balls and have always been balls.
A mulatto An albino A mosquito My libido Yea WHAT? |
Lyrics aren't everything to everyone. Honestly, I personally prefer good lyrics to a catchy hook, but SLTP was the "coming out" song for the grunge movement, which radically shifted the way the music industry was headed, from the over-production of the 1980s into the "garage" sound of the early '90s.
'Course, that was short-lived, since at the end of the decade, we went back to overproduction, but for anyone who was of a certain age from about 1991-1993, Nirvana was it. |
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Nirvana redefined a generation because music at that time was cheesy hair metal about staying up all night partying and strippers and crap like that. They killed off that kind of music by introducing a darker more depressed kind of music. Cobain wasn't a good guitarist and you could argue that he wasn't a very good songwriter (to which I would not agree, but he himself would probably agree with you). Cobain never set out to be an epic songwriter or anything, but there's no denying his originality.
The thing that was great about Nirvana is that they did whatever the hell they wanted to do. Cobain didn't want to be big so he wrote some of the most random lyrics and produced albums himself, but it was things like that which made Nirvana popular. It was new and different. It brought alternative rock and all of it's offsets, not just grunge, into the mainstream. It was anti-pop which became pop, the underground topping the charts. |
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Even Cobain-style music was nothing new. It wasn't new or different. Hell, Seattle Grunge is just Boston Post-Punk 5 years later. |
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I was saying that Nirvana made alt-rock more mainstream, ending the hair metal/new wave 80s era. Seattle grunge was something different than what most people were used to hearing. Even if you want to compare it to Boston post-punk it doesn't change the fact that Seattle grunge killed hair metal and made alternative rock more popular. Every kind of music draws upon a previous inspiration. |
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Face it, if Eddie Vedder was as much of a pussy as Kurt was, then "Jeremy" would've been in the spot "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is at on this list. And regardless if Kurt never had died, the band wouldn't be around today. They would've broken up between '96-'98. The only "grunge" band from the early 90's that's left is Pearl Jam, because they were truly the best band from the era. And I'm not saying that because they are my favorite band, but just look at the way they transcended over the years. Sure they may not make #1 in record sales anymore, but seriously...who cares? Record sales don't base a band...they still sell out arenas like last year they sold out shows all over Canada, Mexico, and South America. Honestly, would Nirvana be doing that if Kurt was still around? |
Nirvana would job to the Yoko Factor, and they'd be forgeotten as another pop trend.
OTOH, Cobain's suicide did bolster Grunge, so other bands benefited by default. And it got rid of him, so that's a plus. |
How is it possible that there is only two Doors songs on this whole thing? If there was one band that was just as influential as anyone like Jimi Hendrix and etc. its the Doors.
Yet they put Light My Fire at 35 and The End at 328. :nono: Who actually makes up these lists? |
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And the same argument can be made about The Doors as was made about Nirvana.
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The Doors are one of the most overrated bands period. Decent music, horribly propelled beyond that into some sort of undeserved legendry.
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My contention is that it most certainly does. A song isnt just about lyrics, it is how you choose to use the lyrics..the way you belt out the words, how you employ them to the tune of your musical instruments..SLTS has everything going for it at the time, and it still holds up now as a matter of fact, and it did knock down doors that other bands from the same era didnt do. KOOS, Pearl Jam are great, but again, Nirvana didnt become such an iconic band due to his death. They were huge and epic while he was living. And you cant go into if's or but's just because Kurt is not still alive. If Eddie had commited suicide or died at his peak, would you not be proclaiming that your fave band ever weren't epic and iconic? Yeah. Also, as I recall things, Eddie wasnt such a strong man himself, considering you called Kurt a pussy. Kurt would run down Pearl Jam and Eddie would fold, and admit to his feelings being hurt. His vvideos would be trashed and Eddie would stop making videos. Eddie in a way back then was a follower, and it was after Kurts death that Eddie started to go the route of the "grunge" type of artist. I doubt Eddie is one to just talk and make praise of someone for nothing, and especially to a guy that once continually trashed his band, but on the night Kurt was found dead, Eddie to his live audience told everyone that none of us would be here if it had not been for Kurt, and the music Nirvana created. I should say that none of them would be on such a big stage together as they were...Nirvana's music clearly helped music lovers learn and gain knowledge about plenty of other bands, and PJ was no exception. This goes back to SLTS, if not for that song and the Nevermind album, perhaps the alternative revolution does not become as big as it did, and we are not permitted to suddenly have access to punk rock bands and underground acts on our radio stations and music tv channels. It broke down some doors, which other bands have had the chance to do before Nirvana, but didnt. Soundgarden. REM, AIC, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone, and many others before Nirvana didnt do this. Nirvana didnt become big through their label mass marketing them and pushing them super hard. That wasnt it at all. N irvana became big through word of mouth, kids passing around cassettes and realizing how kick ass this band was, and turning their friends on to something fresh and new and well deserving of the praise it would later recieve. That is dedication and hardcore love for a band right from the get-go. It then became an avalanche later on, and Nirvana actually deserved all that acclaim, unlike many bands now who reiceve it, or try to. btw, speaking of Pearl Jam, they had two members in that band who at one point in time could have been considered in the same vein as other stadium pooch metal acts..Ament and Gossard. When the grunge movement hit, PJ were right in there at the right moment, right time. They got swallowed up in it and rolled with it. They became big because of what Niravana started. When Nirvana left, we could see PJ start declining, as the rest of alternative nation did. In a way, you can look at Nirvana leaving us early for the regression of many bands that became huge during those years. Perhaps if Nirvana were around longer, PJ would have been much more popular for a longer period of time then they were. They obviously still have their hardcore fans that still attend their shows, but so many left them after Vitalogy. I think it says alot about a particular band(Nirvana) when they have such am imprint and impact on not just the genre of music they helped to make big, but the other bands that fit that style. |
btw, the Rolling Stones are still going, yet the Beatles are still better than they are, so your theory about PJ being the sole band to keep trucking on therefore being the better band or the best as you called them is balls.
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