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Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-19-2006 08:54 AM

Christian??
 
What happened to the guy, been missing my programming for quite a while now

LK 02-19-2006 09:00 AM

This happened to the guy:

http://www.tnapics.com/albums/ppvliv...l_IMG_8194.jpg

Paranoid Rattlesnake 02-19-2006 09:02 AM

Obviously further behind than i realised. TNA then

LK 02-19-2006 09:04 AM

He quit the WWE cause he was tired of not getting a real push despite them teasing it for a lot of late 2004/early 2005.

CharismaInjection 02-19-2006 09:15 AM

It was his choice to leave WWE, they wanted him to re-sign, but he joined TNA instead and is now World Heavyweight Champion.

Cool King 02-19-2006 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CharismaInjection
It was his choice to leave WWE, they wanted him to re-sign, but he joined TNA instead and is now NWA World Heavyweight Champion.

Fixed.

Sorry to nitpick but the World Heavyweight Champion is Kurt Angle.:D

Y3J 02-19-2006 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LK


owenbrown 02-19-2006 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LK

:y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :y: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:

ok sorry for the smiley overkill.... :shifty:

D Mac 02-19-2006 10:23 AM

Sorry but I have to say this,

Worst...Champion...Ever

Y3J 02-19-2006 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
Sorry but I have to say this,

Worst...Champion...Ever

Apology accepted :D .

loopydate 02-19-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
Sorry but I have to say this,

Worst...Champion...Ever

He's not even the worst champion TNA has had in 2006.

And if you want to pretend that Jarrett's better, I could name a half dozen worse World Champions just off the top of my head:

Chris Candido
David Arquette
Ron Killings
Ronnie Garvin
Vince McMahon
Vince Russo

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
Sorry but I have to say this,

Worst...Champion...Ever

Wow. Are you being a Drama Queen, or just legitimately retarded today?

He's not even the worst champion in the last 2 months.

Savio 02-19-2006 02:32 PM

Diesel doesn't like him because he isn't diesel

Savio 02-19-2006 02:33 PM

2 Tag teams have now become World champs.

D Mac 02-19-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior
Diesel doesn't like him because he's annoying.

Tied with Cena I guess.

D Mac 02-19-2006 02:38 PM

He's like X Pac to me. I turn the channel every time he comes on.

loopydate 02-19-2006 02:38 PM

But you seriously think he's a worse champion than any of the people I mentioned?!?

D Mac 02-19-2006 02:40 PM

Nah probably not.

loopydate 02-19-2006 02:41 PM

Well, that's all I'm saying. "Worst champ ever" is really saying something when you look at all the terrible booking decisions that have been made over the years.

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 02:45 PM

Yeah, but people say this shit all the time.

IT's stupid, but what can you do? Such statemenbts have absolutely no meaning anymore.

D Mac 02-19-2006 02:53 PM

Yeah when a wrestler some people don't like wins a title they always say he is the worst just because they don't like that particular wrestler.

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 02:58 PM

You've been KKK'd!
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
Yeah when a wrestler some people don't like wins a title they always say he is the worst just because they don't like that particular wrestler because they're retarded.

This is Bob Barker, reminding you to spay or neuter your n00b

D Mac 02-19-2006 03:05 PM

*marks out*

Disturbed316 02-19-2006 03:29 PM

The TNA title means fuck all anyway now. I would compare his win to winning the Junior Lightheavyweight title, or the Intercontinental title at a push.

wwefan4life 02-19-2006 03:39 PM

hey jerk he won the NWA World Title and it's not a Tna stupid title candy ass

D Mac 02-19-2006 03:40 PM

What.

wwefan4life 02-19-2006 03:42 PM

Just like Eddie and benoit became Champz in a short period of time together so did the E and C connection

D Mac 02-19-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
What.


Disturbed316 02-19-2006 03:55 PM

Jarrett has made that title a complete joke.

JT 02-19-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Rattlesnake
What happened to the guy, been missing my programming for quite a while now


Well this board has been talking about him in TNA and even had that "World Champion" post not too long back, so you're definately out of it.

As for Desiel, I won't argue with you...not on the fact that I agree but that you're opinion is your own. I honestly wasn't a big Christian fan in WWE, but I was starting to get into him near the end of his run, and really am getting a kick out of him now in the TNA (though I do believe the company should make their own World Championship and stop mooching off the history of the NWA Championship...the company isn't even apart of the alliance anymore).

JT 02-19-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Disturbed316
Jarrett has made that title a complete joke.

It was a joke long before him...the title really hasn't ment much since a certain TNA interviewer threw it to the ground after winning it 13 years ago. Which btw makes an interesting question...does anyone else find it ironic that Shane Douglas has been kissing ass of the NWA Championship for the last 1 1/2?

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wwefan4life
Just like Eddie and benoit became Champz in a short period of time together so did the E and C connection

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
What.


YOUR Hero 02-19-2006 04:38 PM

It's not real, folks.

Loose Cannon 02-19-2006 04:40 PM

IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT

YOUR Hero 02-19-2006 04:44 PM

When people say the title is a joke, because someone tossed it in the garbage, I have to laugh. It's not like they are are real shoot fighters that have changed allegiances and left their former company at a loss in true wrestling talent. It's scripted. It's not real. This isn't the UFC or Pro Boxing.

D Mac 02-19-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JT Kool

As for Desiel, I won't argue with you...not on the fact that I agree but that you're opinion is your own. I honestly wasn't a big Christian fan in WWE, but I was starting to get into him near the end of his run, and really am getting a kick out of him now in the TNA (though I do believe the company should make their own World Championship and stop mooching off the history of the NWA Championship...the company isn't even apart of the alliance anymore).

I really have'nt seen him that much in TNA, so I'll have to watch more of him I guess and see what happens with his character.

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
When people say the title is a joke, because someone tossed it in the garbage, I have to laugh. It's not like they are are real shoot fighters that have changed allegiances and left their former company at a loss in true wrestling talent. It's scripted. It's not real. This isn't the UFC or Pro Boxing.

If it was Pro boxing or shoot fighting, I doubt one title holder trashing the title would change much.

Disturbed316 02-19-2006 05:54 PM

The TNA title is a joke because Jarrett went Triple H on it completly devalued it.

Skippord 02-19-2006 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wwefan4life
hey jerk he won the NWA World Title and it's not a Tna stupid title candy ass

You My good man are the biggest retard I have ever seen

Skippord 02-19-2006 06:07 PM

Besides this guy


<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/Skippord/Tardboy.jpg" border="0" alt="Image hosting by Photobucket"></a>

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippord

Sadistic is Dick Mondo?

Xero 02-19-2006 06:20 PM

Well duh.

Skippord 02-19-2006 06:25 PM

Yeah Like anyone would be a fan of that prick

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippord
Yeah Like anyone would be a fan of that prick

I marked out for him at Blockbuster last week.

Skippord 02-19-2006 06:31 PM

He got you that copy of Waiting To Exhale

Xero 02-19-2006 06:34 PM

I personally marked out for his "Late Fee Printout"...

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippord
He got you that copy of Waiting To Exhale

What do I strike you as? A chick?

Skippord 02-19-2006 06:40 PM

No but the next best thing a FAGGOT FAG DRAG EVERYONE FAG DRAG

Pinnacle Charisma 02-19-2006 07:12 PM

Honestily how could Christain even be considered a bad champion.

He has more talent than every TNA champion ever and more talent than most of the wwe and whc champions in the wwe over the last two years and thats including cena, jbl, orton, bats.

D Mac 02-19-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippord
No but the next best thing a FAGGOT FAG DRAG EVERYONE FAG DRAG

I think a little of wwefan4life has rubbed off on you. :nono:

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 07:17 PM

Don't you know? Being charismatic, over with the fans, and popular makes you a bad champion.

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
I think a little of wwefan4life has rubbed off on you. :nono:

Explains his obsession with fags.

Well, that and he's a Raven fan.

JT 02-19-2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Disturbed316
The TNA title is a joke because Jarrett went Triple H on it completly devalued it.

Seriously, what credibility did it have before Jarret or TNA since the fall of NWA in the late 80's. Come on...no one has really even been keeping track of the title since TNA came along. The only time I've heard about the title in-between that Shane Douglas held it and TNA was the reigns of Sabu and Steve Corino which I know little about.

Jarrett did go HHH on it...and it did help further tarnish the NWA legacy...but the title was a joke LONG before Jarrett.

Mr. JL 02-19-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JT Kool
It was a joke long before him...the title really hasn't ment much since a certain TNA interviewer threw it to the ground after winning it 13 years ago. Which btw makes an interesting question...does anyone else find it ironic that Shane Douglas has been kissing ass of the NWA Championship for the last 1 1/2?


Pinnacle Charisma 02-19-2006 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JT Kool
Seriously, what credibility did it have before Jarret or TNA since the fall of NWA in the late 80's. Come on...no one has really even been keeping track of the title since TNA came along. The only time I've heard about the title in-between that Shane Douglas held it and TNA was the reigns of Sabu and Steve Corino which I know little about.

Jarrett did go HHH on it...and it did help further tarnish the NWA legacy...but the title was a joke LONG before Jarrett.


Meh the thing that it does have in its favour is a history of legends carrying the belt. So when Christain comes out and mentions names like the funks, flair, race etc it does give the title alot of cred back. And dont bitch about the "casual fan" not knowing thier names there are alot smarter than you think. And besides more important than that alot of people high up rate the nwa title preety highily. Id take that over what a few marks say.

Kane Knight 02-19-2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle Charisma
Meh the thing that it does have in its favour is a history of legends carrying the belt. So when Christain comes out and mentions names like the funks, flair, race etc it does give the title alot of cred back. And dont bitch about the "casual fan" not knowing thier names there are alot smarter than you think. And besides more important than that alot of people high up rate the nwa title preety highily. Id take that over what a few marks say.

God, you are so stupid. The casual fan doesn't know who Flair or Funk is. They need reminders to breathe. Nobody knows who Ric Flair is except internet smarks.

Fucking retards.

loopydate 02-19-2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle Charisma
Meh the thing that it does have in its favour is a history of legends carrying the belt. So when Christain comes out and mentions names like the funks, flair, race etc it does give the title alot of cred back. And dont bitch about the "casual fan" not knowing thier names there are alot smarter than you think. And besides more important than that alot of people high up rate the nwa title preety highily. Id take that over what a few marks say.

But they're not trying to get the "people high up" to watch their TV show or buy their PPVs. They're trying to get "a few marks" to do it. The "people high up" are already watching the program.

I will agree with you, though, that Christian dropping those names goes a fair distance to reminding casual fans what the belt is worth.

JT 02-19-2006 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle Charisma
Meh the thing that it does have in its favour is a history of legends carrying the belt. So when Christain comes out and mentions names like the funks, flair, race etc it does give the title alot of cred back. And dont bitch about the "casual fan" not knowing thier names there are alot smarter than you think. And besides more important than that alot of people high up rate the nwa title preety highily. Id take that over what a few marks say.

Meh, I'm not trying to bash the title...I'm calling it like I see it. Just I'm sick of anyone who bashes Jarrett for "detroying" the championship or "making it a joke". In honesty, as much as Jarrett shouldn't be pulling HHH's, it's not killing the title...just makes it more boring to watch a title match. Jarrett isn't a terrible world champion, he just not someone who should be playing the top heel for months on end, expecially when he should be running it to be a great company and not his personal stepping stone into wrestling legacy.

Now what's this about me ignoring the "casual fan" or what some high up people (well, that's what I'm gathering from what you're saying). I think the NWA Championship is personally a title with a great history and even after 15 years of really being out of the lime light, is still considered a great championship...but only on people who held the championship before 91. Notice in the great history speeches by the latest and greatest champion never mention someone in the last 15 years. No mention of Steve Corino, Sabu, Dan Severen. No, it's ALWAYS Flair, Rhodes, Steamboat, Race, or Funk mentioned. So the title may be big...but no champion to this point has live up to it's legacy in the past 15 years...only retold it.

Also, while on the subject of "retelling" the history of the NWA Championship...is that the only way to give it credibility. I mean, I won't bitch about retelling it's history for the sake of the casual fans or any fan for that matter. I will bitch about it though on the fact that you should have to always mention the past to make a title or company seem great. When is the last time you saw someone win the WWE Championship and have to go "my name is now forever linked with such names as Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Randy Savage, Andre "The Giant", Shawn Micheals, Buddy Rogers". To my record, it's never had to happen. However, I beleive everytime the NWA Championship is mentioned, even the champion has to talk about past holders just to make the accomplishment look like something.

So to conclude this somewhat long rant, I'll state this. The NWA Championship is highly though of by just as many people who think it's a joke. The title is linked to some of the greatest wrestlers and even wrestling matches of all time. Yet the past decades have proven the belt to no longer live up to it's legacy. It is a joke, and will continue to be a joke till a great champion can bring it back. It's obviously proven not to be Jarrett, as he's the reason this arguement here started. Also, it's no one else who's held the title...AJ Styles, Raven, Rhino, and even Christian. However, I hope one day one of those men, or even another rises to the point where the championship is truely a "World" championship again, on par with what the WWE's main championships are now. Right now though....it's just something that to a wrestler onces ment everything, and today just barely means anything.

Fox 02-20-2006 05:29 AM

it's called "grammar."

Pinnacle Charisma 02-20-2006 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
God, you are so stupid. The casual fan doesn't know who Flair or Funk is. They need reminders to breathe. Nobody knows who Ric Flair is except internet smarks.

Fucking retards.



Yeah I prob shouldnt have mentioned Flair but I doubt most marks know who Funk or Race are etc

Pinnacle Charisma 02-20-2006 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JT Kool
Also, while on the subject of "retelling" the history of the NWA Championship...is that the only way to give it credibility. I mean, I won't bitch about retelling it's history for the sake of the casual fans or any fan for that matter. I will bitch about it though on the fact that you should have to always mention the past to make a title or company seem great. When is the last time you saw someone win the WWE Championship and have to go "my name is now forever linked with such names as Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Randy Savage, Andre "The Giant", Shawn Micheals, Buddy Rogers". To my record, it's never had to happen.

Im preety sure Bats mentioned how proud he was to hold the same title as Race,Flair etc the other month. Yes I know its the whc but its still a wwe title

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Originally Posted by JT Kool

So to conclude this somewhat long rant, I'll state this. The NWA Championship is highly though of by just as many people who think it's a joke. The title is linked to some of the greatest wrestlers and even wrestling matches of all time. Yet the past decades have proven the belt to no longer live up to it's legacy. It is a joke, and will continue to be a joke till a great champion can bring it back.

When some people call something a joke it usaully means they dont think much of it. You may be the exception.

Im aware that the NWA title hasnt looked that great for awhile now but when someone wins it it should be treated as a great achievement not be cast of as joke given its history.

And what I was getting at with the casual fans and the "higher ups" is that some smarks crap on about how something is only credible if a mark know what it is. Just because alot marks dont know what the fuck the nwa title is all about dosnt make it any less important. Whats more important is how the ones that know their shit in the industry rate the title.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-20-2006 08:00 AM

Last big legit NWA champ IMO was Shin'ya Hashimoto (RIP). Corino and Shamrock don't look bad holding it (Corino has been doing alright for himself in Japan, so it's not like he was just hanging around after ECW went under and won it.)

After Hashimoto though, I will say the biggest, most legit champ after him was Jarrett. As a former WCW champion, it doesn't seem far fetched that he would hold it.

Christian has to be an underdog champion IMO. He has to be the cool guy people love, but doesn't quite measure up to the big guys images of an "ideal" champion. His entire reign should be him trying to prove he is good enough to hold the title. If they do that, I think he reign will mean a lot more, and will set him up for a second reign where he can be viewed as a real champion. (If this is making any sense, I don't know.)

Skippord 02-20-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Explains his obsession with fags.

Well, that and he's a Raven fan.

I'm not that big of a Raven fan

Skippord 02-20-2006 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle Charisma
Meh the thing that it does have in its favour is a history of legends carrying the belt. So when Christain comes out and mentions names like the funks, flair, race,Garvin etc it does give the title alot of cred back. And dont bitch about the "casual fan" not knowing thier names there are alot smarter than you think. And besides more important than that alot of people high up rate the nwa title preety highily. Id take that over what a few marks say.


JT 02-20-2006 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fox
it's called "grammar."

Obviously we haven't met...I'm JT Kool.

Skippord 02-20-2006 11:11 AM

I'm Skippord

Disturbed316 02-20-2006 11:30 AM

I'M SPARTACUS

Skippord 02-20-2006 11:43 AM

I'm Skippardicus

D Mac 02-20-2006 11:45 AM

I'm BATMAN

Skippord 02-20-2006 11:50 AM

I'm HHH

Y2Jeremy 02-20-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Yeah, but people say this shit all the time.

IT's stupid, but what can you do? Such statements have absolutely no meaning anymore.

Greatest.Post.Ever.

Kane Knight 02-21-2006 01:38 AM

I'm JESUS!

Dorkchop 02-21-2006 01:58 AM

I'm Idaho.

Skippord 02-21-2006 01:59 AM

I'm NICK MONDO

D Mac 02-21-2006 02:24 AM

I am what I am and that's all that I am cuz I'm Popeye the sailor maaaaannnn.

Skippord 02-21-2006 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
I am Sadistic.


Kane Knight 02-21-2006 10:55 AM

I'm a drag queen.

redoneja 02-21-2006 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
I'm a the Queen of the Rodeo.


Vastardikai 02-21-2006 11:32 AM

I am kind of smelly. :shifty:

Xero 02-21-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai
I am kind of emo. :(


starfox8500 02-21-2006 11:36 AM

I AM IRON MAN

D Mac 02-21-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippord
I'm wwefan4life, guddu, manmadeofsteel, and YOUR Hero


Skippord 02-25-2006 05:02 AM

HOW DID YOU KNOW?


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