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D Mac 02-25-2006 09:49 PM

Wrestlers in UFC
 
Which wrestler do you think would make it in real fighting competion? Whether it would be UFC, PRIDE, or whatever.

My first choice obviously would be Kurt Angle.

Xero 02-25-2006 09:51 PM

Angle, if his neck weren't shot, could probably shoot with the best of them.

mrslackalack 02-25-2006 10:28 PM

Benoit.

McLegend 02-25-2006 10:33 PM

If he was younger Taker. Benoit also

thecc 02-25-2006 10:47 PM

Low Ki and Samoa Joe.

Kris P Lettus 02-25-2006 10:50 PM

All of those dudes (minus MAYBE Angle depending on how he could take a punch) would get destroyed in MMA..

They are not trained how you have to be to make it in MMA..

D Mac 02-25-2006 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
All of those dudes (minus MAYBE Angle depending on how he could take a punch) would get destroyed in MMA..

They are not trained how you have to be to make it in MMA..

MMA? I'm not familiar with that.

Xero 02-25-2006 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
All of those dudes (minus MAYBE Angle depending on how he could take a punch) would get destroyed in MMA..

They are not trained how you have to be to make it in MMA..

Well no one said that they wouldn't be trained you know.

McLegend 02-25-2006 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
MMA? I'm not familiar with that.

Mixed Martial Arts. It's what UFC is.

D Mac 02-25-2006 11:06 PM

Oh, I thought it was a new federation or something. :shifty:

D Mac 02-25-2006 11:08 PM

It's this at work...




http://www.40ouncebeer.com/pics400/budice4.jpg

Kris P Lettus 02-25-2006 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Well no one said that they wouldn't be trained you know.

Well, it's still a stupid topic because anyone with the proper training and determination could "make it" in MMA..

What Would Kevin Do? 02-26-2006 12:32 AM

Didn't Sean O'Haire try, but get owned in K-1? OR did he do okay? Akebono did it and was horrible.

Anyway.... MAYBE Angle, Shelton, or Brock... Mainly because they all have amateur wrestling experience. Steve Blackman could have a shot too. ( If ya want to be bloody obvious, Shamrock, Severn, etc.)

Kris P Lettus 02-26-2006 02:21 AM

This dude (white shorts) prolly could make it with out training..'

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6XaXqmWD1gI&search=fight

D Mac 02-26-2006 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
This dude (white shorts) prolly could make it with out training..'

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6XaXqmWD1gI&search=fight

It's Ahmed Johnson!

*marks out*

Kris P Lettus 02-26-2006 02:36 AM

Looks more like a buff Issac Hayes..

Pinnacle Charisma 02-26-2006 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
Didn't Sean O'Haire try, but get owned in K-1? OR did he do okay? Akebono did it and was horrible.

I actually thought Sean O'Haire was doing preety well. I heard he won a title or something

What Would Kevin Do? 02-26-2006 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle Charisma
I actually thought Sean O'Haire was doing preety well. I heard he won a title or something

Maybe he did? I didn't look into it at all. I just haven't heard of many wrestlers making the transistion and doing well.

Rob 02-26-2006 09:27 AM

Sean O'Haire has lost more fights than he has won. Granted, he is losing K-1 (kickboxing) fights against the best in the world like Gary Goodridge but he is losing none the less.

The only guy I'd give any small hope to in the WWE would be Rob Van Dam. He is the only guy with enough martial arts background who is young enough and injury free to stand any chance. Angle is fucked and Daniel Puder showed what chances he'd really have.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-26-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob
Angle is fucked and Daniel Puder showed what chances he'd really have.

I dunno. I don't know if Angle was expecting that type of shoot during that segment. I think there's more of a preparation. If Angle were to actually prepare for something like that, I think it'd be different.

Dave Youell 02-27-2006 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
I dunno. I don't know if Angle was expecting that type of shoot during that segment. I think there's more of a preparation. If Angle were to actually prepare for something like that, I think it'd be different.

Yeah I mean look at the Angle invitational, he was ready for those and he won every one! Well Except for against Eugene, but Eugene was mor prepared than Angle..............

Rob 02-27-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
I dunno. I don't know if Angle was expecting that type of shoot during that segment. I think there's more of a preparation. If Angle were to actually prepare for something like that, I think it'd be different.

Well if he didn't then he is a fucking dick. He should know better to shoot on professional fighters and not expect a comeback. And Angle also has stated many times he has very little feeling left in his arms and fingers. He is at a huge handicap before even getting into a competitive match. And he didn't go to Olympic Trials for wrestling because of his neck injury. He'd get absolutely murdered. He probably wouldn't even get medical clearanced by the Nevada Atheltic State Commission to even fight.

vampiro03 02-27-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
Sean O'Haire has lost more fights than he has won. Granted, he is losing K-1 (kickboxing) fights against the best in the world like Gary Goodridge but he is losing none the less.

The only guy I'd give any small hope to in the WWE would be Rob Van Dam. He is the only guy with enough martial arts background who is young enough and injury free to stand any chance. Angle is fucked and Daniel Puder showed what chances he'd really have.

have you watched ufc or any mma? it doesn't matter what your "special" martial art consists of. 99% of the time the fight ends on the ground. unless you have a defense only specialty like joyce gracie, any martial artist would be destroied by a trained wrestler be it greco-roman or whatever.

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:20 PM

lol try telling Chuck Liddel, Andrea Arvolski, and Rich Franklin 99% of fights finish on the floor, very few people have a knockout punch, very few pro wrestlers do, and to make it BIG, you MUST have a knockout punch/Kick. Takedown defence and summision is a big help also, but shoot fighting alone won't cut it in MMA.

Shamrock in his prime would beat Angle in MMA, as Angle would beat Shamrock in an Amature wrstling match. Angles amature career he never had to worry about being kicked or punched in the face, wrestling defence is very minimal. I doubt very much any wrestler in the WWE could step into the octagon and beat any of the current UFC champions.

Two very different sports, UFC fighter could make it in MMA but I highly doubt any WWE superstar would cut in in MMA.

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:21 PM

Who is the Joyce Gracie fella anyway?

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2006 07:25 PM

You don't know who Royce Gracie is??

O_o

http://www.roycegracie.tv/

I'm gonna find some footage for you..

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2006 07:30 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uf4zgzNEo...royce%20gracie

Strange thing is, the guy he's fighting is the dude that fought Big Show at Wrestlemania..

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2006 07:32 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-JN5iJdP9...royce%20gracie

Nice little video of him dominating on the ground..

Crazy because he was so crafty at making people tap, the ref misses it most of the time..

p.s.there's a dude fighting in PRIDE now who calls himself the "Gracie Hunter" because he's beaten most of the Gracie family..

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
You don't know who Royce Gracie is??

O_o

http://www.roycegracie.tv/

I'm gonna find some footage for you..

Na, I know of him, im just not too familiar with his sister Joyce

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:35 PM

Also, congrats on not getting it

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2006 07:35 PM

Yeah he knows who Royce Gracie is, he just didn't know who Joyce Gracie was retard.

Yeah, basically no wrestlers would stand a chance, they don't know how to properly fight. That includes Angle.

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:35 PM

:p

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:36 PM

chill Newstead you cunt, I was fuckin about

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2006 07:37 PM

Oh and also, MMA is about a bazillion times better than pro wrestling. Just thought I'd point that out.

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:37 PM

:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyrider
chill Newstead you cunt, I was fuckin about

I replied before I saw your posts explaining to him that he was a dumbass, by the time I had posted it, it was too late.

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2006 07:39 PM

Eat a herpes ridden dick, you load of faggot..

p.s."The Gracie Hunter" is named Kazushi Sakuraba..

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2006 07:40 PM

I guess we should call Wanderlai Silva the Kazushi Sakuraba hunter then :(

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2006 07:42 PM

I don't know who Wanderlai Silva is..

Joyrider 02-27-2006 07:45 PM

Wanderlei Silva*

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2006 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joyrider
Wanderlei Silva*

Goddamnit, you cockjawed fucker..

I wanted Jewstead to tell me who it was ala "joyce gracie"..

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-27-2006 07:48 PM

Getting Wanderlei wrong is a bit different than Royce. It's not exactly the easiest name in the world to spell.

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2006 07:50 PM

Yes, but that doesn't mean I could tell that Joyrider knew who Gracie was regaurdless of a typo..

p.s. you are a retarded pile of shit..

Y3J 02-27-2006 07:51 PM

Arnold Schwarzenegger

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-28-2006 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
Yes, but that doesn't mean I could tell that Joyrider knew who Gracie was regaurdless of a typo..

p.s. you are a retarded pile of shit..

P.s. you have chosen the most handsome picture of me ever.

Ol Dirty Dastard 02-28-2006 09:08 AM

Broked cheekbone and fatlip

vampiro03 02-28-2006 02:41 PM

it was me who made the Gracie typo. its easy to make. its pronounced "Hoyce" and without thinking I put a j because most latin based languages J is pronounced H. so, I am sorry for the mistake. I know he's not latin but Brazilian.

Rob 03-01-2006 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vampiro03
have you watched ufc or any mma? it doesn't matter what your "special" martial art consists of. 99% of the time the fight ends on the ground. unless you have a defense only specialty like joyce gracie, any martial artist would be destroied by a trained wrestler be it greco-roman or whatever.

I've been following MMA, not just the UFC since UFC 1. I RELIGIOUSLY watch UFC and Pride more than I EVER did for wrestling.

Rob Van Dam has more variation in martial arts than you think he does. I'd also be interested to see where you got the "99% of the time the fight ends on the ground" arguement. You should be asking yourself if you have watched MMA before you think about asking others dude. Especially since you don't even know Royce Gracie. And funny enough, you mentioned fights don't end on the ground when you have a "specialty" like he does. How many Gracie fights have you seen end standing up anyway? How can you seriously say you know anything about MMA and not know how to spell Royce anyway? Sorry but it's not an easy mistake to make as you said. You could have even copied and pasted from another site just to save yourself the embarrassment.

And as for any martial artist being destroyed by a trained wrestler, you must still be living in 1995 or something. Up here in the real world in 2006, all the champions in the UFC don't not have world standard wrestling backgrounds. Only Chuck Liddell has any competitive wrestling background from all of them.

vampiro03 03-02-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
I've been following MMA, not just the UFC since UFC 1. I RELIGIOUSLY watch UFC and Pride more than I EVER did for wrestling.

Rob Van Dam has more variation in martial arts than you think he does. I'd also be interested to see where you got the "99% of the time the fight ends on the ground" arguement. You should be asking yourself if you have watched MMA before you think about asking others dude. Especially since you don't even know Royce Gracie. And funny enough, you mentioned fights don't end on the ground when you have a "specialty" like he does. How many Gracie fights have you seen end standing up anyway? How can you seriously say you know anything about MMA and not know how to spell Royce anyway? Sorry but it's not an easy mistake to make as you said. You could have even copied and pasted from another site just to save yourself the embarrassment.

And as for any martial artist being destroyed by a trained wrestler, you must still be living in 1995 or something. Up here in the real world in 2006, all the champions in the UFC don't not have world standard wrestling backgrounds. Only Chuck Liddell has any competitive wrestling background from all of them.


when ufc first became big..ala 1995, the fights were longer and more hardcore. nowadays if someone punches someone else two times the fight is called. its stupid now. so, going by old school ufc rules yes, a trained wrestler would destroy a martial artest. If you are going to attack my knowledge because of a typo then you are a sad little man. go rent all the early ufc dvds and I want you to tell me how many fights were won because of a spin kick!:rofl:

Rob 03-03-2006 03:28 PM

Erm.... how many now are won on a spin kick? And what's 1995 got to do with current day MMA?

Kane Knight 03-03-2006 05:21 PM

ROFL.

Joyce Gracie.

Kane Knight 03-03-2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do?
I dunno. I don't know if Angle was expecting that type of shoot during that segment. I think there's more of a preparation. If Angle were to actually prepare for something like that, I think it'd be different.

It is worth noting just how seriously injured Angle is. The guy shouldn't be risking his ass as-is, let alone enter a real fight. A healthy angle might fare well, but modern-day Kurt is a dead man walking.

vampiro03 03-03-2006 05:30 PM

this is better than ufc: Kimbo/Gannon bareknuckles

http://livedigital.com/AOImYgDyVA/content/43156/

Kane Knight 03-03-2006 05:39 PM

Don't quit your day job.

vampiro03 03-03-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Don't quit your day job.

you're welcome.

Kane Knight 03-03-2006 06:11 PM

UFC>WWE>Snuff Films>A nine inch spike through your dick>That Trash

vampiro03 03-03-2006 06:18 PM

true, but nobody has EVER actually made a snuff film.lol

Kane Knight 03-03-2006 06:36 PM

If they did, it'd probably be better than WWE on my list. ;)

Rob 03-04-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vampiro03
this is better than ufc: Kimbo/Gannon bareknuckles

http://livedigital.com/AOImYgDyVA/content/43156/

And what happened to Sean Gannon again? Oh yeah, Brandon Lee Hinkle absolutely handed his arse to him in Gannon first (and last) UFC fight.


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