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RoXer 03-11-2006 06:19 PM

V For Vendetta
 
Looks pretty good. Has anyone had the chance to see it yet?

Funky Fly 03-11-2006 10:54 PM

Sounds interesting. Hopefully, it won't be like The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Boondock Saint 03-11-2006 11:35 PM

Yeah looks good, been getting good reviews as well so far.

Kane Knight 03-11-2006 11:41 PM

I'm praying the Wachoskis don't fuck up Moore's work. I loved the GRaphic Novel.

Blitz 03-12-2006 01:18 AM

I'm interested. Hugo Weaving is the man.

D Mac 03-12-2006 01:21 AM

Who is the hero supposed to be? Never heard of it until this movie.

Blitz 03-12-2006 01:27 AM

He's based on a Brit named Guy Fawkes, who tried to blow up Parliament in 1605.

Disturbed316 03-12-2006 04:39 PM

Hopefully will be seeing this soon, looks pretty decent.

John la Rock 03-12-2006 04:52 PM

it looks amazing

Skippord 03-12-2006 08:56 PM

I cant wait to see this movie it looks like the Cats Pajamas and the Bee's Knee's rolled into 1

Kane Knight 03-12-2006 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
Who is the hero supposed to be? Never heard of it until this movie.

V for Vendetta is an Alan Moore comic book/Graphic Novel about a "hero" who strikes fear into the hearts of a government which more or less rules by fear. Apparently, the Wachowskis are really playing up theterror aspect, and people are whining that V is a terrorist.

V is a terrorist. One with a flair for theatrics.

Moore is most famous, perhaps, for Watchmen. Both are awesome books. He did League of Extraordinary Gentlemen too...I hope they do a better job than THAT.

I hope they don't fuck this up.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11769182/site/newsweek

http://www.time.com/time/europe/eu/a...172195,00.html

Some of the things they complain about are laughable.

D Mac 03-13-2006 12:11 AM

Yeah League was pretty dissapointing.

YOUR Hero 03-13-2006 09:37 PM

Seems like this movie was chosen to be made because of the current political climate in the West.

Blue Demon 03-14-2006 01:04 PM

I think it looks good, but this is what a user of IMDB had to say:

Gone is the comic's oppressive atmosphere- the film's Britain doesn't even seem to have spy cameras, while the comic seems to choke you on all sides. Gone are the social interactions between the main government agents that show corruption on the inside. Gone is the rising narrative tension as V's attacks pace along with the story, building up over time. The central villain of the story, initially, seems less like an oppressive government and more like a super-powered Fox News. Gone is the vicious cabaret. Gone is any mention of anarchy. This is a Kinder, Gentler V, and he fights a Kinder, Gentler Totalitarian Britain.

I was honestly surprised that the movie even dealt with Evey's imprisonment the same way that the comic did, by the time it got there. I was prepared for it to totally ruin her character's most important moment and take the last bits of V with it.

Politically, the story and atmosphere are loaded down with unsubtle knocks at the current American administration. This is not to say that such a message shouldn't be expressed- but it's not supposed to be "V for Vendetta"'s message. Here was a chance for a film to go after what should be the real target: A social system that would allow such poor representation and leadership in the first place. I just wonder why the filmmakers wanted to use ten-dollar cuss words all the way up to an R rating without bothering to give being actually subversive a try, given their source material. "Ideas are bulletproof," to be sure, but where are they?

Good acting and costuming, but otherwise a pretty sloppy film, and entirely unlike the original comic.

Kane Knight 03-14-2006 02:46 PM

It's the Wachowskis. The limit of their depth is naming "the one" "Neo" and badly copying old cyberpunk novels.

Oh, and totally ripping off White Wolf (Who stole their ideas from old cyberpunk novels anyway).

D Mac 03-14-2006 02:51 PM

Hey wait, One spelled differently is Neo!

:shifty:

Disturbed316 03-14-2006 04:41 PM

lol fuck me, I've just noticed that :$

Blitz 03-14-2006 04:56 PM

Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else think The Matrix has some subtle Christian undertones?

























:shifty:

Kane Knight 03-14-2006 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
Hey wait, One spelled differently is Neo!

:shifty:

Really? Must be a coincidence.

Kane Knight 03-14-2006 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz
Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else think The Matrix has some subtle Christian undertones?

























:shifty:

Hey, I think you might be onto something there. Come to think of it, there are a couple of biblical similarities.

D Mac 03-15-2006 02:24 PM

Hopefully Padme gets naked. :naughty:

Fox 03-17-2006 12:59 AM

But she's bald.

Boondock Saint 03-17-2006 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Hey, I think you might be onto something there. Come to think of it, there are a couple of biblical similarities.


lol Didn't you get into a huge argument with someone once over The Matrix and how "deep" it is? Who was that?

D Mac 03-17-2006 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox
But she's bald.

In the preview she isn't. :?:

-edit- or do you mean real life?

Disturbed316 03-17-2006 09:59 AM

She's not bald, just had all her hair shaved off.

Kane Knight 03-17-2006 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boondock Saint
lol Didn't you get into a huge argument with someone once over The Matrix and how "deep" it is? Who was that?

Like 250 people. Seriously. Thousands of people think that shit is like, totally deep because they anagrammed "One" and threw in some Biblical references.

Jesus Christ, Vampire Slayer did more or less the same thing, but it doesn't make it, you know, deep.

Kane Knight 03-17-2006 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac
In the preview she isn't. :?:

-edit- or do you mean real life?

In 99% of the preview shots, she has a GI Jane look.

The Mask 03-17-2006 01:24 PM

it got an absolutely shite review on film 06

Mr. Monday Morning 03-17-2006 01:33 PM

Yeah but come on. Jonathan Ross.

D Mac 03-17-2006 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
In 99% of the preview shots, she has a GI Jane look.

I'd still tap that. Don't be jealous tho KK, you're still my #1. :kiss:

Champion of Europa 03-17-2006 04:38 PM

I watched it last night, and I found it to be very enjoyable.

Disturbed316 03-17-2006 05:28 PM

Yeah Jonathan Ross slaughtered it, as did the reviews in The Sun.

But then again, it is The Sun, and they think games like FIFA Street are fucking amazing.

Kane Knight 03-17-2006 06:03 PM

They're panning it in the US papers, but I take comfort in the fact that a lot of people panning it are MAtrix fans.

Man, Portman has a large fucking head.

mitchables 03-17-2006 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero
Seems like this movie was chosen to be made because of the current political climate in the West.

Or perhaps in spite of it.

Boondock Saint 03-18-2006 01:38 AM

Just saw it. Good stufffffff.

D Mac 03-18-2006 01:45 AM

Might go see it tomorrow after work. Take some time to get away from this addicting shit. :mad:

Zelda 03-18-2006 10:22 AM

That was a really entertaining movie. What I like is to see the movie's vision of England under a totalitarian regime.

Kane Knight 03-18-2006 11:33 AM

Has anyone here who's read the comics seen it yet? Because I was kinda wondering what to expect (In terms of whether it's similar or not). I'll probably be seeing it monday, and I rarely perform a direct comparrison (I treat the movies as separate from the source), but I'm kinda wondering how faithful non-critics saw it.

Kane Knight 03-18-2006 11:37 AM

BTW

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th

You probably have to be a subscriber to see it, but it looks at the scene that intros V and shows some of the storyboard work and shit. Pretty cool.

Shaved Monkey 03-18-2006 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Jesus Christ, Vampire Slayer did more or less the same thing, but it doesn't make it, you know, deep.

Ahaha, you've actually seen that?

It was filmed here in town, I actually also used to spend alot of time at the bar they filmed at in the movie.

Triple A 03-18-2006 01:30 PM

I seen it. LIKED IT. It was "different" and entertaining.

PapaGeorgio 03-18-2006 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Has anyone here who's read the comics seen it yet? Because I was kinda wondering what to expect (In terms of whether it's similar or not). I'll probably be seeing it monday, and I rarely perform a direct comparrison (I treat the movies as separate from the source), but I'm kinda wondering how faithful non-critics saw it.

I've read the comic and have seen the film. For the first 1/3 of the movie I was unable to fully enjoy the film because I was comparing the two. Once I realized that the film was going a different way then the book I stopped comparing as much as possible. But knowing that Evey in the book was 15/16 years old and Portman is playing that part you have to know there would be some differences. Right from the start though you could tell they would change a lot, if you can get pass that you should be able to enjoy it somewhat.

Gonzo 03-19-2006 04:43 AM

Never read the book/comic or whatever it is, but I thought as it stands the movie was pretty sweet. "V" is a pretty likeable character.

Supreme Olajuwon 03-19-2006 02:45 PM

I thought it was very good. I've never been exposed to anything other than the film but there was a lot of passion about the acting and the story and so I enjoyed myself.

Kane Knight 03-19-2006 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaved Munkey
Ahaha, you've actually seen that?

It was filmed here in town, I actually also used to spend alot of time at the bar they filmed at in the movie.

Fuck no, but I do know a little about it.

Kane Knight 03-20-2006 11:20 PM

OMG THEY RUINED IT!

Naw.

Here's the thing:

V for Vendetta was a good movie. It covered the major points of the comic, though not always in the same fashion.

It's been a while since I read V, so stop me if I fuck something up.

The bitching about terrorism is bullshit. The Wachowskis made V more or less the same character he always was...Moore did nothing to hide the notion that V was a terrorist (Among other things). V does not justify terrorism any more than it used to--The major difference is that the Wachowskis are about as sutble as a brick to the head, and seem to think we won't get how deep they are unless they prodclaim it at every corner.

That being said, I liked most of what they added to the movie, and Itreated it as a separate entity. I was worried they'd really fuck it up, but only really cringed a couple of times.

the movie was well cast, largely well shot, and well thought out. I could do without the fucking heavyhanded "subtlety." Also, I would have liked to have seen (Minor spoilers, highlight to read) V actually ask for a Viking funeral as he dies...I thought that was a fucking cool bit that would have made the end make more sense.

Shaved Monkey 03-21-2006 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Fuck no, but I do know a little about it.

Its worth it just once.

Kung fu Jesus vs. Lesbian vampires. How can you go wrong?

Kane Knight 03-21-2006 09:19 PM

By making it. :D

PapaGeorgio 03-22-2006 12:36 PM

Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter was not that bad. It still entertains me whenever I watch it. They did do a few obvious things wrong in the movie, like giving him a haircut/shaving the beard. It is one of those movies you just pop in for entertainment value.

Kane Knight 03-22-2006 04:23 PM

Fuck, it's the official JEsus Christ, Vampire Hunter thread. :p

AlphaBean 04-02-2006 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox
But she's bald.

I really, really would like to find that out for you. :drool:

I dunno, I loved the movie. It had its moments, definitely cringeworthy, but it also had some moments that were pretty fucking sweet. I iMaxed it up, so it basically bowled me over with the huge screen and massive bass during the explosions etc. I'm gonna have to watch it again to better get it I guess. But it was a massive mark-out film, especially the fact that they bring back a 25 year-old Mathilda for a modern-day Leon, I couldn't help but think about how much I loved "The Professional," and how it had a similar feel... Well derr uh erm, I'm too fried to sound anything near intelligent on the matter. I just know I marked out at the end. I love mob scenes in films, I guess. Strange Days used to be my favorite.

Kane Knight 04-05-2006 02:39 PM

I don't normally like David Spade, but I loved the joke he made about guys going to the theaters to see NAtalie Portman shaved...However, the Fry rule of always ending his stories a sentence early was in effect.


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