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BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:30 AM

Holy ass, TNA is hard to watch
 
So I was flipping through the channels, and TNA was having their monday night replay on Spike or whatever. So I says, lets give them another chance (this has to be up to like 10 now). I catch a match between Elix Skipper, Sonjay Dutt, and some dude named Maverick or something. Anyhow, the match reeked of crap. The wrestling was decent at best...well it wasn't really wrestling, I don't recall seeing an grappling, it was all striking and splashes. The announcing was god awful. It made me miss Tony Shivony get all gay over a scoop slam. I couldn't tell who was heel and who was face. Plus I'm sure the entire audience was a plant, not like 1 or 2, but the entire fucking thing. How could I tell, well the match sucked, but they were still cheering like it was Hogan vs. Rock. Plus, Elix did some sort of corkscrew plancha which is pretty common place now a days, and the crowd starts chanting TNA. It is one thing when Mike Awesome awesome bombs someone through a table on the floor from the middle of the ring and the crowd to chant ECW, but TNA chants for a rather common place move?

If I'm being to harsh, um, maybe they shouldn't suck.

The One 03-21-2006 12:32 AM

I LOVE BDC!

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:34 AM

I love TNA, but it's annoying as hell when they don't sell the moves.

Also yes the dueling crowd chants for lowcarders is terrible.

redoneja 03-21-2006 12:34 AM

Don West is the only reason I watch iMPACT

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:37 AM

Ok, just watched another match, Abyss vs. some TNA jobber. You know you have to suck when TNA won't give you entrance music. Anyhow, the wrestling still sucked, and so did the announce, oh, but also this time the ref sucked.

Also, what the hell is Abyss, some sort of joke? Hey, I know what a good gimmick would be, lets combine Kane and Mankind with a touch of Cena (the chains), make him do a stupid little pose, and give him the poor man's Paul Bearer as a manager. That will get over right?

The next match is going to be Konnan and some other jerks. Guess what, not watching it. Konnan sucked in WCW, and now that he is older and not as well paid how could he be any better?

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redoneja
Don West is the only reason I watch iMPACT

Who the fuck is Don West?

The One 03-21-2006 12:39 AM

Chris Daniels and Eric Young are really the only things worth watching in TNA...and Eric Young is treated with a joke gimmick, so it kind of makes it hard to watch him even.

The One 03-21-2006 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Who the fuck is Don West?

The non-Mike Tenay announcer.

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:42 AM

I watch it mostly for AJ, (who I know BDC hates with a passion) Joe, and Daniels. I still like some of the wrestling.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:42 AM

I guess I watched TNA for one reason. That reason is that I hate fish. Can't stand it, lucky I live in the middle of the country and beef is plentiful. But every so often I think to myself, well maybe I just haven't got the right piece of fish I'm being closed minded. So I try like some salmon or white fish or something, and guess what, I still hate it. So every so often I check to make sure TNA still sucks, and guess what, it still does.

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:42 AM

Also Don West looks a lot like Mark Madden.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
I watch it mostly for AJ, (who I know BDC hates with a passion) Joe, and Daniels. I still like some of the wrestling.

AJ Styles can suck the shit out of my ass with a straw.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Also Don West looks a lot like Mark Madden.

Why don't they just get Mark Madden, I liked him in a sick sort of way.

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
AJ Styles can suck the shit out of my ass with a straw.

Yeah I knew that

redoneja 03-21-2006 12:44 AM

Seriously, just watch Don West. Its ROFL

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:46 AM

Hey, is Nash still on TNA?

The One 03-21-2006 12:46 AM

Who here watches South Park? You do? You know the episode where the Future people come back and start taking jobs away from the present day folks...you know the guy who is always say "They took our jobs!"...

Yeah, Don West's voice reminds me of that guy.

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:47 AM

Not really. Rumor was he wanted to do a tag team with Sean Waltman, but TNA managment didn't want that.

The One 03-21-2006 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Hey, is Nash still on TNA?

No, he got sick before Bound For Glory...he was supposed to Fight Jarrett, but had Rhino win the title instead. I heard it was something to do with his heart. Anyway he hasn't been back, though has tried to purpose he and Sean Waltman have a Tag Team...but TNA didn't bite.

Champion of Europa 03-21-2006 12:47 AM

As a founding member of the Church of Bischoff:

TNA needs more Bischoff.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:48 AM

prince of punk?!?!?!? is shannon moore retarded?

The One 03-21-2006 12:49 AM

Yes. Yes he is.

He is also now signed to a WWE contract (that was his last TNA match).

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa
As a founding member of the Church of Bischoff:

TNA needs more Bischoff.

As founding memeber of Chruch of Bischoff, Bischoff doesn't need to besmerch his name on TNA.

redoneja 03-21-2006 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Who here watches South Park? You do? You know the episode where the Future people come back and start taking jobs away from the present day folks...you know the guy who is always say "They took our jobs!"...

Yeah, Don West's voice reminds me of that guy.

I know what you mean. ANYTHING could happen and he would be like "OH MY GOD, THIS IS INCREDIBLE. WOW."

His facial expressions are hilarious too.

Mr. JL 03-21-2006 12:49 AM

Yeah, Michael Shane or Matt Bentley I mean, has a new name in Maverick Matt.

I swear Michael Shane and Billy Gunn must have a 2 dollar bet on how many names they can be called in TNA before it goes out of business.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
No, he got sick before Bound For Glory...he was supposed to Fight Jarrett, but had Rhino win the title instead. I heard it was something to do with his heart. Anyway he hasn't been back, though has tried to purpose he and Sean Waltman have a Tag Team...but TNA didn't bite.

Oh, it just keeps getting worse.

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:50 AM

I thought the 8 man tag was a pretty good match to

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redoneja
I know what you mean. ANYTHING could happen and he would be like "OH MY GOD, THIS IS INCREDIBLE. WOW."

His facial expressions are hilarious too.

Don West should pimp his merchandise on Impact.

That would be ratings.

The One 03-21-2006 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. JL
Yeah, Michael Shane or Matt Bentley I mean, has a new name in Maverick Matt.

I swear Michael Shane and Billy Gunn must have a 2 dollar bet on how many names they can be called in TNA before it goes out of business.

You know neither one of them can afford to lose a 2 dollar bet.

(why am I taking cracks at Billy Gunn??? Forget I said anything :shifty: )

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:52 AM

Rhino is getting fat.

Oh, hey when is WWE going to sign Chris Daniels, he is the only guy I really like.

NeanderCarl 03-21-2006 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
The next match is going to be Konnan and some other jerks. Guess what, not watching it. Konnan sucked in WCW, and now that he is older and not as well paid how could he be any better?

LOL. Spot on.

Champion of Europa 03-21-2006 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
As founding memeber of Chruch of Bischoff, Bischoff doesn't need to besmerch his name on TNA.

OK, you've got me there. I'd rather him off my TV than on TNA.

The One 03-21-2006 12:54 AM

He is signed to a written contract (one of the 5 TNA currently has out right now) until 2008...so sometime after that WWE can get to him and job the shit out of him.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 12:55 AM

Alls I'm saying is that if TNA still had Nash, then it could use him as a scape goat by saying it is all his fault it sucks because he is holding everyone down. Nash would joke about that being true, and everyone would agree. But without him, it becomes obivous that the product in general sucks.

The One 03-21-2006 12:56 AM

Gotta love Nash. Makes a career out of being the scapegoat.

McLegend 03-21-2006 12:58 AM

I'm sure if we tried we could find away to blame it on Nash.

We might have to try really hard though.

The One 03-21-2006 12:59 AM

He was there when they first got on FSN and monthly 3 hour PPVs. :shifty:

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 01:05 AM

Ok, here is my promise. After I learn to wrestle from probably Lance Storm, I'll probably get signed with TNA because the money will probably be better there than the indy curcuit, and lets face it, I'm whore. What do I promise? I promise to be the most innovative guy on the show. Wanna know how? I'm going to fucking wrestle. Not all that acrobatic, flip around, can't quite tell who is on the offensive bullshit. No, I'm going to use moves like arm drags, ddts, piledrives, atomic drops, sto's, stf's, russian leg sweeps. You know, the wrestling we are use to seeing. I figure simply using an older style of wrestling would be unique there. Wrestling loses its magic when everyone tries to be RVD.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 01:09 AM

Hey, you know earlier when I said the entire TNA live audience is a plant? I'm also pretty sure they pipe in extra cheering and pops as well.

Also, in reference to me calling Shannon Moore a retard is that he has about as much to do with being punk as I do with keeping my mouth shut when I have nothing nice to say. That's right, nothing.

Bad Company 03-21-2006 01:16 AM

rofl, hasn't nash already come to TNA to brag about being a shitty worker?

Also, At least they have steiner now

McLegend 03-21-2006 01:17 AM

If anything TNA Somtimes edits the crowd to not sound as loud believe it or not. Especially when they are doing dueling chant for a face and heel.

Also the crowd isn't plants. They are genuine TNA fans.

RGWhat316 03-21-2006 01:17 AM

My wrestling fans always rave about how good TNA is, but whenever I get a chance to watch it, which is rare anyways, it sucks. The crowd is even worse. They will boo the hell anytime WWE is mentioned, but they will chant TNA when something is done, that you can see on WWE.

I know some people that went to the house show in the Detroit area this weekend, saying it was the best ever. But I watched the video on TNA's website, and there's a huge pop when AJ flips over the top rope. Hell RVD just did that on RAW tonight. So for a wrestling organization, I really don't see too much wrestling. It's really just all acrobatics.

McLegend 03-21-2006 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Company
rofl, hasn't nash already come to TNA to brag about being a shitty worker?

Yeah he did that last year when he was in the Kings of wrestling. It was good stuff.

Dorkchop 03-21-2006 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Who here watches South Park? You do? You know the episode where the Future people come back and start taking jobs away from the present day folks...you know the guy who is always say "They took our jobs!"...

Yeah, Don West's voice reminds me of that guy.

THEY TERK ERR JERBS!

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
If anything TNA Somtimes edits the crowd to not sound as loud believe it or not. Especially when they are doing dueling chant for a face and heel.

Also the crowd isn't plants. They are genuine TNA fans.

Ah, so tna fans are just as retarded as shannon moore?

McLegend 03-21-2006 01:25 AM

Yes

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 01:29 AM

So from what I take it, everyone else feels that same way I do, they just tune into TNA to see what they pass off for wrestling every few months?

McLegend 03-21-2006 01:34 AM

Honestly I do enjoy TNA and every now and then you will get a good match with spots that flow well in the match.

Also Samoa Joe and AJ (Yes I know you hate him). Also I like AMW. They're hilarious heels.

Rammsteinmad 03-21-2006 03:47 AM

I like TNA.

Now, obviously I don't like it more than WWE, but the thing is at least TNA is unpredictable (to me anyway).

Xero 03-21-2006 08:35 AM

The only reasons I stop for TNA for a prolonged period is if Joe, Christian, Steiner, or a good X Div match is on. Otherwise I'll stop for a few minutes and just change the channel.

I would probably watch it all the way through if it wasn't on so fucking late, though. I don't want to watch something that I want to remember for the most part at 11...

Londoner 03-21-2006 09:18 AM

Only thing that interests me about TNA is what interests everyone else, Samoa Joe/Aj/daniels, and obviously Christian.The Dudleys had me interested for a while but now I just don't give a fuck about them because tag team matches in TNA are even worse than in WWE.

Seriously, if you think WWE tag team matches are bad, watch TNA and you will see the difference.TNA should also quit with this squash/jobber show idea, who wants to watch a show where the only thing worth watching is the main event?

Xero 03-21-2006 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL
Only thing that interests me about TNA is what interests everyone else, Samoa Joe/Aj/daniels, and obviously Christian.The Dudleys had me interested for a while but now I just don't give a fuck about them because tag team matches in TNA are even worse than in WWE.

Seriously, if you think WWE tag team matches are bad, watch TNA and you will see the difference.TNA should also quit with this squash/jobber show idea, who wants to watch a show where the only thing worth watching is the main event?

Who wants to watch a show where the only thing worth watching is someone eating worms?

Londoner 03-21-2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Who wants to watch a show where the only thing worth watching is someone eating worms?


Since when is Smackdown only worth watching for some guy eating worms?Smackdown has been far better than Raw lately, though that isn't saying much.

The Mackem 03-21-2006 11:34 AM

I could go for some worms right about now.

The Mackem 03-21-2006 11:36 AM

http://karmaswrestlingretro.com/scotty2.jpg


Take it outside Scotty.

The Mackem 03-21-2006 11:37 AM

http://www.britain.tv/images/model_p...ty_2_hotty.jpg

You jerk!

Kane Knight 03-21-2006 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Plus I'm sure the entire audience was a plant, not like 1 or 2, but the entire fucking thing. How could I tell, well the match sucked, but they were still cheering like it was Hogan vs. Rock.

Naw. They're just retarded. They cheer heels, cheer faces, and think "This is awesome" and "OoooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ABYSS" are good chants.

Kane Knight 03-21-2006 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL
Since when is Smackdown only worth watching for some guy eating worms?Smackdown has been far better than Raw lately, though that isn't saying much.

I agree.
  • Paul Burchill. His feud with Regal could be bloody awesome. All he needs is a buccaneer or two...:shifty:
  • Chris Benoit's been doing great.
  • JBL, period. With a broken hand, JBL Still>90% of the lockeroom.
  • MNM are finally entertaining me (Waiting to see if it was a fluke)
  • Angle/Taker made me care about Taker again.
Raw has:
  • Michaels, and my interest in him is killed by his constant fighting with the McMahons.
  • HHH, who is the best thing going right now, and his feud with Cena even makes wiggers look entertaining
  • That's all.

Dorkchop 03-21-2006 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Paul Burchill. His feud with Regal could be bloody awesome. All he needs is a buccaneer or two...:shifty:

I agree. William Regal is doing such a great job with this. I think he's the only guy who could do this angle right. His reactions to everything are great. I really hope we're treated to a lot of Regal Burchill matches. Regal is amazing in the ring.

Stickman 03-21-2006 01:02 PM

Yup, tna is awful. I was channel surfing with my girlfriend and we had Raw and tna on at the same time (TSN) and I wanted to stop at tna for a bit. My girlfriend said it was terrible, I asked if it's worse than WWE she said hell yeah. She can't stand wrestling at all.

I agree with all the negativity towards their product in this thread. It really is that bad.

LK 03-21-2006 01:08 PM

Now come on guys the crowd at TNA isn't that bad. Last time I watched Impact, it appeared that they have turned on Lance Hoyt so there is some hope.

McLegend 03-21-2006 01:13 PM

The crowd definitely has thier moments. Sometimes the crowd is hilarious, but other times they aren't.

If TNA just did a few shows here or there in Universal the crowd would be awsome. It's just that they have gotten old since we see and hear the same people everyweek

Xero 03-21-2006 01:18 PM

Ooooooooooooooooooooooo ABYSS ABYSS ABYss AByss Abyss abyss...

Cactus Sid 03-21-2006 04:11 PM

If I ever stop at Impact on the wrestling channel, its usually pretty shit, but most of the PPV's I've seen have been hella entertaining, more entertaining than most of the WWE ones I've seen of late.

Mr. Monday Morning 03-21-2006 04:55 PM

I just download the PPVs and occasionally an Impact or two. I just tend to watch for AJ/Joe/Daniels, Christian (if he's not wrestling Jarrett or Monty fucking Brown :roll: ) and the GeNext guys (i.e. Alex Shelley, Austin Aries, Roderick Strong). Other than I agree it's not too great, which is a shame.

RoH > TNA

BTW BDC if you like Lance Storm he will be wrestling in RoH April 1st for the world title.

St. Jimmy 03-21-2006 07:09 PM

i personally think Joe is over-rated, but if the push him to the moon, and give him and Christain some time to build a good fued, i may be interested.

they made me remember why i don't like tag wrestling.
don west is funny, IMO. because he's the poor mans Tony Shivone'
(wow, let THAT sink in)

the X division isn't as good as it could be.
they need new writers. hands down.

Kane Knight 03-21-2006 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LK
Now come on guys the crowd at TNA isn't that bad. Last time I watched Impact, it appeared that they have turned on Lance Hoyt so there is some hope.


Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Lance Hoyt!

Destor 03-21-2006 11:26 PM

I am sooo glad I have found a board that doesn't suck TNA's dick. I'd rep you all but I am lazy.

Kane Knight 03-21-2006 11:49 PM

Oh, I suck TNA's dick, I just talk about him behind his back afterwards.

BigDaddyCool 03-21-2006 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor
I am sooo glad I have found a board that doesn't suck TNA's dick. I'd rep you all but I am lazy.

Then just rep me, and be lazy about everyone else.

Londoner 03-22-2006 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cactus Sid
If I ever stop at Impact on the wrestling channel, its usually pretty shit, but most of the PPV's I've seen have been hella entertaining, more entertaining than most of the WWE ones I've seen of late.

Yeah the PPV's are good, but their main show is meant to be Impact, and they treat it like shit.

Londoner 03-22-2006 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Ooooooooooooooooooooooo ABYSS ABYSS ABYss AByss Abyss abyss...

I hadn't heard that chant until recently, I was laughing my ass off, I had to turn the channel because the chant was so awful.

Londoner 03-22-2006 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
Then just rep TL and be lazy about everyone else.

I agree with BDC.:shifty:

Kane Knight 03-22-2006 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL
I hadn't heard that chant until recently, I was laughing my ass off, I had to turn the channel because the chant was so awful.

Did you see Sting's "farewell?"

They had some chants that made the Abyss chans look good.

PullMyFinger 03-22-2006 11:39 AM

TNA can have its good moments and it can also have its bad moments.

It's good moments are rare though I noticed.

1 - I FUCKING DESPISE THE IMPACT ZONE CROWD. Like everyone stated above, they get an orgasm over simple moves that even RVD does. I don't blame Alex Shelley at all for calling them retards. They boo WWE like mad, and chant TNA TNA TNA! as if it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

2 - Impact looks like a poor man's version of Thunder.

3 - Get rid of the 6 sided ring already. I've tried to force myself to like it for a whole year now, but just can't take it anymore.

4 - Alex Shelley, Joe, Daniels, Sting, Steiner, etc. are reasons why I watch.

5 - Their storylines are cheesy and come out like shit, except for the Sting angle and even that is corny.

6 - TOO MANY FUCKING TAG MATCHES. I hate anything more than 1 tag match per hour.

7 - How about you fucking leave the Impact Zone already?

8 - This fits in with #1 but since it's so terrible, I had to put it separately....THE STUPID CROWD CHANTS! Oooooo Abyss

9 - Did I mention their retarded fans that think TNA needs little to no storylines, little to no star power, and just want to see ROH lite on TV? Ridiculous.

TNA has really gotta get its act together.

McLegend 03-22-2006 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Did you see Sting's "farewell?"

They had some chants that made the Abyss chans look good.

Nah the crowd was good during his match and his promo, which was a really good promo btw.

McLegend 03-22-2006 12:01 PM

Why does that bother everyone when they boo the WWE?

ECW crowd did it to as did the WCW crowd. Same way with WCW and the WWE crowd.

Out of all things to hate that crowd for that is definitely the worse reason.

King Jericho 03-22-2006 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Yeah, Don West's voice reminds me of that guy.

Durkka Duuuur.

Johnny Vegas 03-22-2006 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Why does that bother everyone when they boo the WWE?

ECW crowd did it to as did the WCW crowd. Same way with WCW and the WWE crowd.

Out of all things to hate that crowd for that is definitely not the worse reason.


Kane Knight 03-22-2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legend
Nah the crowd was good during his match and his promo, which was a really good promo btw.

The rpomo was good (Though it was a dumb thing to do on his first Impact appearance), but the crowd was retarded.

Kane Knight 03-22-2006 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
TNA can have its good moments and it can also have its bad moments.

It's good moments are rare though I noticed.

1 - I FUCKING DESPISE THE IMPACT ZONE CROWD. Like everyone stated above, they get an orgasm over simple moves that even RVD does. I don't blame Alex Shelley at all for calling them retards. They boo WWE like mad, and chant TNA TNA TNA! as if it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

2 - Impact looks like a poor man's version of Thunder.

3 - Get rid of the 6 sided ring already. I've tried to force myself to like it for a whole year now, but just can't take it anymore.

4 - Alex Shelley, Joe, Daniels, Sting, Steiner, etc. are reasons why I watch.

5 - Their storylines are cheesy and come out like shit, except for the Sting angle and even that is corny.

6 - TOO MANY FUCKING TAG MATCHES. I hate anything more than 1 tag match per hour.

7 - How about you fucking leave the Impact Zone already?

8 - This fits in with #1 but since it's so terrible, I had to put it separately....THE STUPID CROWD CHANTS! Oooooo Abyss

9 - Did I mention their retarded fans that think TNA needs little to no storylines, little to no star power, and just want to see ROH lite on TV? Ridiculous.

TNA has really gotta get its act together.

1. The only reason TNA needs to tour is so they can get rid of those fucking psychos. They are one of the worst elements of the show on so many levels.

2. It actually makes most second-rate productions look like quality.

3. I'm indifferent to the ring. I think it'll stick around because it's like their only selling point in terms of how they're different from WCW and such.

4. And half of them are being used like shit.

5. I like most of the storylines. The Sting one sucks ass.

6. I can't agree more, especially in the face of the number of 6 and 8 man tags in the ME. They have limited time to showcase all their talent, but this is kinda a waste.

7. So they don't lose MORE money? I'm sure they're starting to take a hit from their house shows, and they've had...One?

8. And the inability to like, boo people (Even before the fucking ejection rule) and the like.

9. TNA's fanbase wants to be ECW. They want to be counter-culture, and part of how they do it is by trying to rabidly abandon everything that WWE does...

Like stories, storytelling, ring psychology, basically everything except running the title into the ground by making your "top guy" bury everyone worth a fuck.

BigDaddyCool 03-22-2006 11:47 PM

What is up with this "Samoa Joe?" He looks like a malnurished Rikishi, plus he was on Distraction on comdey central once, and I didn't really care.

Kane Knight 03-22-2006 11:52 PM

Samoa Joe is known for having a huge arsenal of submission moves, twice John Cena's.

BigDaddyCool 03-22-2006 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
Samoa Joe is known for having a huge arsenal of submission moves, twice John Cena's.

So, what is that, 2?

Shadow 03-23-2006 01:01 AM

4 actually

Cena has the STFU and the "I'M SO BORING I MAKE MY OPPONENTS SUBMIT WHENEVER I GET IN THE RING!"

Mr. Nerfect 03-23-2006 02:52 AM

I've never actually watched Impact! or a TNA PPV, because we don't get them over here in Australia, but from what I've heard and what I've seen, the stuff on TNA is better than the WWE.

The X-Division is exciting, and they have Christian. All they need is to have a longer show so they can have space between things. Apparently TNA uses time really well, and right now they barely have any.

I'm going to give TNA the benefit of the doubt, because they at least try and cater to a niche market. I do think they have a chance at giving the WWE a run for its money in terms of quality. When TNA starts making a profit, I think it is going to boom.

Londoner 03-23-2006 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alienoid06
I've never actually watched Impact! or a TNA PPV, because we don't get them over here in Australia, but from what I've heard and what I've seen, the stuff on TNA is better than the WWE.

The X-Division is exciting, and they have Christian. All they need is to have a longer show so they can have space between things. Apparently TNA uses time really well, and right now they barely have any.

I'm going to give TNA the benefit of the doubt, because they at least try and cater to a niche market. I do think they have a chance at giving the WWE a run for its money in terms of quality. When TNA starts making a profit, I think it is going to boom.

As you said, you haven't seen Impact, so I don't think you can actually give them the benefit of the doubt.If you watched Impact you would understand this thread.They do put on good PPV's as i've said already though, but that isn't how you get new fans into your product.

Kane Knight 03-23-2006 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
So, what is that, 2?

Word.

Kane Knight 03-23-2006 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alienoid06
I've never actually watched Impact! or a TNA PPV, because we don't get them over here in Australia, but from what I've heard and what I've seen, the stuff on TNA is better than the WWE.

The X-Division is exciting, and they have Christian. All they need is to have a longer show so they can have space between things. Apparently TNA uses time really well, and right now they barely have any.

I'm going to give TNA the benefit of the doubt, because they at least try and cater to a niche market. I do think they have a chance at giving the WWE a run for its money in terms of quality. When TNA starts making a profit, I think it is going to boom.

IT's exciting, if you don't mind most of the wrestlers being spotmonkeys.

Volare 03-23-2006 04:22 PM

I still like Jarret holding on to his "spot" by keeping the fuckin title for that god damn long

and having people job to him thnx to....Gail Kim interfering?? lmfao

The Optimist 03-23-2006 05:52 PM

I'm done with my charade. . .I am coming out of the closet. I LOVE TNA wrestling's X-division. I can't help it, the WWE had made me think that all wrestlers beside a chosen few were old, slow, and had to be 290 lbs. to entertain me. TNA made me remember fast, high flying, everything or nothing, wrestlers using every part of their body to try to knock out the other guy.
So they can't all wrestle as well as some of the guys in the WWE, they still entertain me. I can't tell who the heel is, I can't tell who the face is, I like that, it lets me judge the man on how entertaining he is.
Tenay would not be my first choice of announcer, I will admit that but TNA's management has done some godawful things I just mark that on the list.
The fans in the arena have been watching TNA for three or more years, they love it unconditionally. Most of the time I just laugh at them and their chants.

Hardkore Kidd J 03-23-2006 09:48 PM

I like TNA I don't think it's bad at all. But I'm not gonna have the typical TNA lover responce "WWE SUX TNA RULZ FUK VINCE! 11111" All I'm saying is they have their moments. The TNA chants get real annoying for me I don't mind if they did it on special occasions[Ultimate X matches which they seem too do 5-6 times a year maybe even more etc.etc.] When I first heard about Billy Gunn and BG James teaming up I was excited because I was hoping too see a NAO reunion. But, that's just the thing they weren't the same NAO they were worse. All I'm saying is TNA is good if the WWE cruiserweights aren't good enough for you. Because I see TNA as kinda a spot fest Federation. The main eventers are ok but the people who get the most air time are the people that do flips around the ring like acrobats. Not saying I don't like TNA just saying it's good for WWE isn't on TV.

The One 03-23-2006 10:09 PM

I love NAO...but you're right, James Gang is NOT the New Age Outlaws.

Kane Knight 03-23-2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J
I like TNA I don't think it's bad at all. But I'm not gonna have the typical TNA lover responce "WWE SUX TNA RULZ FUK VINCE! 11111" All I'm saying is they have their moments. The TNA chants get real annoying for me I don't mind if they did it on special occasions[Ultimate X matches which they seem too do 5-6 times a year maybe even more etc.etc.] When I first heard about Billy Gunn and BG James teaming up I was excited because I was hoping too see a NAO reunion. But, that's just the thing they weren't the same NAO they were worse. All I'm saying is TNA is good if the WWE cruiserweights aren't good enough for you. Because I see TNA as kinda a spot fest Federation. The main eventers are ok but the people who get the most air time are the people that do flips around the ring like acrobats. Not saying I don't like TNA just saying it's good for WWE isn't on TV.

TNA's all frosting. Well, almost all.

WWE's like Hot Lunch at high school. It's usually some variation of Meat Loaf or Salisburry Steak. It's old, it's bland, it's boring, and you get the feeling that the people cooking it must really hate you for some reason.

WWE has boring, predictable matches which are hard for a fan to watch. Its storylines are played out and there's no longer anything exciting.

But then, TNA's sickening for a different reason. You can't eat a whole bowl of frosting without some problems. TNA is spots, it's flash, it's got very little substance. It's not horribly memorable beyond the fact that they abuse their spots like nobody's business. This isn't a good thing as they rely on crutches such as spots and "OH MY GAWD! SIX SIDED RING!" And they wear out their gimmick matches faster than WWE does (Compare the EC to Six Sides of Steel).

Hardkore Kidd J 03-23-2006 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight
TNA's all frosting. Well, almost all.

WWE's like Hot Lunch at high school. It's usually some variation of Meat Loaf or Salisburry Steak. It's old, it's bland, it's boring, and you get the feeling that the people cooking it must really hate you for some reason.

WWE has boring, predictable matches which are hard for a fan to watch. Its storylines are played out and there's no longer anything exciting.

But then, TNA's sickening for a different reason. You can't eat a whole bowl of frosting without some problems. TNA is spots, it's flash, it's got very little substance. It's not horribly memorable beyond the fact that they abuse their spots like nobody's business. This isn't a good thing as they rely on crutches such as spots and "OH MY GAWD! SIX SIDED RING!" And they wear out their gimmick matches faster than WWE does (Compare the EC to Six Sides of Steel).

I agree I basically said TNA was all right for what it is and that is a Spot Fest federation and not the good kind like ECW. This is why I always get mad when a retard posts a topic on TPWW about TNA being at the same level as WWE. TNA will NEVER be on the same page as WWE.

Kane Knight 03-23-2006 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardkore Kidd J
I agree I basically said TNA was all right for what it is and that is a Spot Fest federation and not the good kind like ECW. This is why I always get mad when a retard posts a topic on TPWW about TNA being at the same level as WWE. TNA will NEVER be on the same page as WWE.

God, I hope not. That would just be trading one kind of suck for another. Honestly.

TNA's bad, but so's WWE right now. It's a pervasive issue. TNA has good points, WWE has good points. To trade off your bad points for someone else's though, would be totally bad.

.44 Magdalene 03-23-2006 10:57 PM

I love TNA, personally.

...But keep in mind, I don't get UPN. All I have to compare with is RAW. Smackdown! sounds pretty sexy, but as I can't watch it, I'm stucking begging Jesus to give TNA an extra hour on TV.

Mr. JL 03-23-2006 11:42 PM

Yeah, TNA totally kills any of their creative gimmick matches. The Ultimate X Match is the perfect example. It has only been around for maybe three years yet there have been around 10 or so of these matches already.

Kane Knight 03-23-2006 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. JL
Yeah, TNA totally kills any of their creative gimmick matches. The Ultimate X Match is the perfect example. It has only been around for maybe three years yet there have been around 10 or so of these matches already.

I know. They need to stop milking their gimmicks and bring in some substance.

Mr. JL 03-23-2006 11:52 PM

They need Paul Heyman... the King of Substance and the only man who could make a bunch of substance abusers appeal to a audience for seven or so years.


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