Hitman needs to get over it already
 

Seriously, how hard is it to show up at WrestleMania and address your fans?

Now I'm not a fan of the guy, but I'm sure a few people would love to see him atleast show up in some shape or form at WrestleMania. But no, the guy doesn't want to

Fuck him

(Unless the whole thing is to throw everyone off)

Jesus. Only on the internet is washing your hands of something "not gettng over it."

I happen to agree with Naitch (and not just because he's quoting me!!!). If he "washed his hands of it", why is he showing up at the Hall of Fame in the first place?

I reckon he's playing hardball, and his ego wants him to be 'courted' into making a Mania appearance. And I'm torn 50/50 as to whether he will do it or not, despite what he's been saying.

Because the Hall of Fame and WM are two different entities?

Sorry if I'm too "out there" for you.

He's said the only reason he's doing the Hall of Fame was to say goodbye the right way to his fans.

What the fuck are you talking about, Naitch?

He is at the HOF to say good-bye. Isn't that enough? Why does he need to be at wrestlemania? He is too injured to be part of any storylines. 56898743569873569 concussions and a stroke will do that to you.

FUCK YOU ALL. SDAKHGDSFGAKYBSDHF

Bret should be at Wrestlemania in some capacity since he's being inducted into the HOF

WHY?

He can't do anything, and I doubt he really wants to be around HBK more than he needs to.

Because:

1. It is now traditional for the Hall of Fame inductees to show up at WrestleMania and be introduced

and

2. Because of point 1, a lot of the more mark-ish/casual fans (therefore, probably at least 50% of the audience) are expecting to see Bret at WrestleMania, dare I say some even bought tickets because of it, and if Bret breaks the tradition then he will have a lot of fans disappointed in him.

Mind you, they should have expected it. It's not the first time Bret has broken a time-honoured tradition is it?




(Uh-oh, I'm gonna get some heat for that!)

He WILL be at the HoF, right? If not, I might bat an eye. If he is, then fine.

As things currently stand, Bret WILL be at the ceremony. And then he will fly out of Chicago the next morning, missing WM22 altogether.

I am not a Bret fan, and I am sick of his childish behavior. It has been tradition the last couple of years for the HOF participants to show up at WM. If Bret didn't want to do that, then why did he even bother accepting the HOF invitation anyways. And I wouldn't be surprised if some people did buy tickets to WM to see Bret live and in person.

Plus, I also read in another interview that Bret said if Shawn shows up at the HOF ceremony, he would get in a cab and head to the airport right away. Now that is just ridiculous.

I dunno, if a guy I hated for years who accused me of cheating on my wife and then he was involved in the moment that pretty much ended my career, I'd not want to be around him either.

He accused him of cheating on his wife? I knew nothing of this. Someone give me details.

Shawn made some comment like "Sunny days" or something, with the implication being that Bret was boning Sunny (Tammy Sytch). Needless to say, the Hitman was't pleased.

I'm sure you can find a more detailed account on practically any wrestling website.

if da hitman was hitting sunny..good for him! HBK was being the jealous lil bitch we all knew he is/was!

Bret got it while its hot - now shawn can have it cuz its not

and lets be honest, sunny WAS hot!


I think Bret still wants Vicne and Shawn to apologise on TV for Montreal and that would open the door for Bret to consider working in some capacity for the WWE.

People say he's totally fucked up ..maybe..maybe not..I mean he was jumping on stage as the fucking genie from alladin and HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN WORKING WITH TNA!?!

Im the biggest Hart fan here - and I think Bret wants what he always wanted RESPECT!

How would it look for Bret to just meekly say " ahh okay vince" Bret felt humiliated after Montreal and he wants to bring Vince down to earth a little bit.

I think Bret would draw big even if he isnt wrestling! Vince knows this- the mention of Brets name still garners more interst than the storylines vince got going- thats why Montreal is brought up over and over and over..

So if you guys want to see him at Wrestlemania, what exactly would you want him to do, stand about doing nothing?

You are not helping.:|

If i had my way - i would have this happen

Bret get his award at HOF - as he leaes the stage HBK shows up and has words with hart...

the next night bret rings the bell at mania when vince puts shawn in the sharpshooter-

Vince goes to high-five bret , bret punches him and puts a sharpshooter on him - then takes the mic and says " the WWE can go fuck themselves...TNA rules"

We need to stop making threads about it all ready.

Also I find it pretty funny that since Montreal Bret has said way more things about Shawn then Shawn has said about Bret, but yet Shawn is still the dick.

If Bret doesn't want to go to WM and do anything with the WWE then thats great. Bret can do what he want and I will still be a Bret fan.

But yeah gotta stop making threads about Bret Hart, and how bitter he is or he isn't.

There could be an entire sub-forum dedicated to Bret Hart.

Bah gawd! He makes a retarded comment and expects heat! The boy's a genius!

:lol:

Was Bret Hart advertised for Mania?

Was there any confirmation he'd appear?

If you're retarded enough to buy tickets and then blame HITMAN for letting you down, you deserve to be put down like a rabid dog. And trying to justify your comments about Bret by saying stupid people will be let down is just as bad.

Oh wait, I know, it's tradition. Because WWE never breaks tradition themselves.

Nope, they always MAKE IT OR BREAK IT with those few bad apples.

Although it will more than likely become a tradition, I would hardly call two years a tradition.

It makes me laugh at the morons who don't like bret are the ones moaning because he wont be at wrestlemania!!!

I'm a massive Bret hart fan and i wish he would show up at wrestlemania but i understand fully why he wont!!! Just some idiots can't seem to get it!

He got screwed over by this company after everything he had done for them and they slap him in the face!! If You had done everything for you're work and they slapped you in the face how would you feel???

LOL. Bitchtits.

Time-Honoured, no less. I mean, come on, it's happened two years in a Row. That's as Time-Hounoured as they get, no?

Anyone that bought a ticket to WrestleMania 22 to see Bret Hart needs to be shot in the head, especially considering that Bret was nowhere near confirmed for even the Hall of Fame back when tickets went on sale.

Am I the only one finding this whole "time-honored tradition" wording hilarious?

I dont care if he is not at the actual Mania event...

my only problem is his comment about 'if i see shawn im going home'...

get over it, say goodbye to your fans, call it a career, and just be done with it.

Get over it!!!!! Well if shawn wasn't making fucking comments in his book he might get over it! If this shit wasn't brought up ever god dam time he gets interviewed he might be able to get over it!!!

Fuck you!..He has every right to demand shawn not to be there! My only wish is for him to punch shawn the fuck out!

Uh, yeah? Just like the past 2 WrestleManias, where the HOFers were introduced, they stepped forward, waved hello to the crowd, and stepped back. Gee, that must really be hard for Bret Hart to do.

Therefore, the only conclusion that I can draw from him refusing to be there, is that he just doesn't want to do a simple thing like be with the other HOFers and be introduced. He can go home afterwards. Christ.

Why the fuck does it matter sooo much to you that bret isn't doing that????????? Fuck me, bret hart fans are the ones that should be moaning!

He's not going to do it.....GET OVER IT!!

He will still go down as one of the greatest wrestlers to step foot in a wwe ring.. wether you bitch about it or not!

Heh, I'm only pointing out that it's a whiny and bitchy thing for Bret to do. I'm simply backing up others' statements. I'm not crying over it, just pointing out that it doesn't take much to show up for like 5 minutes at WrestleMania.

Since I was deliberately mocking it, prolly not. :p

Um, um, um, I meant for reasons OTHER than the fact that they've only consistantly done the HoF a couple of years in a row now. :o

How is it a whiney and bitchy thing to do???? Vince is lucky that he's going in it AT ALL!!!!

Bret is going to go in the hall of fame for his fans and because he DAM WELL DESERVES TO BE IN!! but i don't see how not showing up at wrestlemania is being a whiney fucking bitch!

All showing up at wrestlemania will do is make more money for vince and give more heat to the fucking shitty vince v dickhead match! So why the fuck should he do that!!

Bret Going into the hall of fame is more than i would ever dream of him doing so i'm not going to bitch and moan like a fucking faggot about him not doing WM! i'm going to thank seeing this day when he takes his rightfull place in the hall of fame!

As the title says GET OVER IT!

Doesn't he live in Italy now?

Doesn't that mean a lot of travel time for someone with serious head injury issues?

The simplest answer is really doesn't have to do anything, and that he's already showing up for the induction, which is more than he needs to do. You say 5 minutes like he can just show up and immediately go on TV and then go home, but honestly, when does anything in TV only take 5 minutes?

Aything sounds simple if you want to oversimplify things

Um...what? Way to make sense.

Yeah, and I'm going to take a guy named "Flair's saggy bitchtits" seriously.

If Bret wants to put it all behind him, no-showing a simple introduction and wave will raise a lot of suspicion. If I wanted to put something behind me, I'd make an appearance at WM22 and then go home. If he sees Shawn, he should, at the most, just ignore him and walk right on by. Not that hard.

That's all I'm saying, Bitchtits. No need to use exclamation marks over it!!!!111 :'(

:roll:

When you're called to simply step forward, wave, and step back into the shadows. Nobody's asking Bret to do a Hogan run-in and save the day or anything. Just wave hi. That's all.

Fine, I'll just stop now. It's one thing to anger Flair's saggy bitchtits. But teh Kane Knight? I go home now. ;)

Are you fucking retarded or something?? Do you understand the English??



It's a username on the internet what's the big deal? I think you're username is fucking stupid, but it's no reason to not take what you say any differently just because you have a stupid username! Just proves you're more retarded than i thought!


If bret doesn't want to do that why the fuck SHOULD HE?? It's good enough in my eyes that he's doing it at all All this is , Is bitching internet fans finding something else apart from cena to fucking moan about!

And if i want to use exclamation marks to put my point across"TerranRich" I will..ok

You missed the point. You really don't just walk off the street and onto the stage, wave, and get to leave. It wasn't a question of "does he have to fight Vince McMahon and have HBK screw him again?" It was a question of "What do you think the odds are they he can just show up, go onstage for 5 minutes, and leave without any real hassle or slowdown?"

Flair's soggy bitchtits is the retarded version of punt apparently.

I might have missed the point, KK. I tend to do that. Thing is, what kind of hassle or slowdown would there be? i'm just curious.

Is that the best you can come up with?:nono: Very creative....or not.

The "time-honoured tradition" line was a joke, by the way.

Some people seem quite offended by that!

I'm not offended, just found it funny. :p

Some people seem quite offended by a lot of things lately. :p

I look at it this way:

If Bret really thinks that way, and he said those things because he's still not wanting to bury the hatchet (which, last time I checked, he was very much prepaired to do. It's Vince that keeps bringing the shit about Montreal up and shoving it down people's throats), then he doesn't deserve the HOF induction for that alone. He would be even more of a dick than Shawn ever could be.

If this is all a work, though, and we should expect to see Bret at Mania (notice I said IF before that statement), then it would be one of the biggest ones in WWE's history.

I've said it before that I do expect to see Bret in the HOF stuff at WM like everyone else has done. But I don't know if I would expect him to do anything else (though we all could be wrong). I aslo said that if Hart does do something in the Vince/Shawn match, then it would salvage any point TO the match, since the feud has lost any point whatsoever since it started.

But yeah, if Bret is really being such a dick, then throw him out of the HOF. If this is all a work, then the WWE deserves a fucking Oscar.

I doubt its a work. Surely Harts current condition would make that not a possibility. Whats the point, after all? Why keep up the pretence when you are that ill?

Unless he's a slave to the mighty $.

Seriously if it came out as a work, I wouldn't believe anything anymore. About anything.

I find it really fucking sad that all bret Hart is thought of now to wrestling fans (apart from Hart fans) is a whiney fucking bitch.

Forget all that he has done for the wwe, Forget how good he was in the ring and how he went out there night after night putting on a show for the fans Forget how much he loved wrestling... just remember him as a whiney little bitch because he wont obey to stupid selfish idiots who think that unless he does the wrestlemania show then he's a crybaby.

Well fuck you. He is still is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be! Wether you want to cry and bitch like faggots or not

Put it this way, to all of you lot who are bitching aout Bret not being at Mania, why do you fucking care?

I guarantee all Bret's real fans like myself just don't give a fuck if he is there or not. I respect his decision to do his good byes at the HOF and leave it at that. There is no need for him to be at the PPV. Why bother coming out just to wave to a bunch of marks who probably don't even know you? They didn't buy tickets to see Bret Hart.

And since we are talking about people going to the PPV, let's all argue about Eddie Guerrero not being there. Doesn't matter that he is dead. It's just as stupid anyway.

Oh man, don't start the conspiracists going again!

I was going to make a post like that. But then, I got to thinking, two things would happen:

1. People would start in with the reatrded "Eddie's death was a work" Bullshit.

2. Vince will exhume Eddie's body and display it in the lineup on the stage when they announce his induction.

But yeah. OMG. Eddie doesn't want to show up. What a dick.

Number 2 wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

The only suprising thing would be that 80% of the fans wouldn't be bothered by it in the slightest. Hell, Eddies'remains would get the biggest pop of the night...

shut the fuck up legend :lol:

ps- Bret is still a child. So Shawn is in the same building as him Boo fucking hoo. What? You can't stand a few feet away from him and ignore him?

Fuck Bret Hart :lol:

I don't see why WWE just don't give Bret Hart like $2 million to come in, knock out Vince, shake hands with Shawn and then leave. Well Bret probably wouldn't do it for $10 million but you get my point.

I wonder what Bret thinks about HBK being born again

Bret: Good for him

HBK: :(

You can bet that Vince had that in mind when he started booking his and Shawn's feud.

the Bret Hart fans should get compensation by having Bret's ex wife own Triple H again in a backstage promo.

Hey, did I read something about WWE contacting Sunny a while ago? :shifty:

I'd put on a Hart costume and do it for 1 million.

Never knew he had a kid called "beans" before......:|

That was a very kinky night...

It is a nickname.

According to Melzter a couple months back Vince did just that but Bret said no. I think he offered him a million don't remember though.

I think Vince McMahon would need his head examined if he offered Bret Hart millions of dollars to pull off a one-shot angle that wouldn't lead to any business in the future, wouldn't promote a match and basically wouldn't earn the WWE any money in return for the investment.

And I'm sure the shareholders wouldn't be too impressed, nor would the lower card guys who earn a QUARTER of that money for a whole year's hard graft.

Even if he didn't promote it, Vince would make that money back in PPV replays, DVD sales and future angles and then some. It's like paying Tyson $4 million for a nights work. Everyone thought that was stupid since they just said they couldn't afford to pay Bret Hart that over 3 years and yet it was definately work every penny.

And as for his stockholders, the McMahons still own about 80% of the shares. They only answer to themselves. If he had to answer to real stockholders, they would tear him apart. He makes 3 different individual salaries all over $1 million per year, has a personal jet from company expenses and has million dollar plus bonuses every year. In the real world, investors wouldn't stand for this. But this is the world of the carnies.

WAY to be a Bret Hart mark, brother.:lol:

I'm a self confessed Bret Hart mark but whats your point. You telling me if Bret Hart showed up unannounced at say Backlash, more people wouldn't order the replays or buy the DVD than normal? Plus you have closure on this fucking Montreal finish which Vince has been milking for years. Vince built a whole PPV on the back of the possibility of Bret Hart interfering in the Michaels vs. Hogan match at Summerslam. Infact, they mentioned Hart so much in the build up that they forgot to mention Hogan would actually be working instead of him.

You actually think that even if Bret did do something Vince would end the Montreal shit? He would milk it even MORE once he saw what it did for buys and ratings.

Yeah, because the controversy of "Bret KOs Vince!" Wouldn't in any way sell. :|

Biggest feud in wrestling that's 9 years in the making? Nah wouldn't draw a dime.

A momentary punch and handshake alone would sell two million dollars worth of replays and DVDs to people that otherwise wouldn've have bought said replay or DVD? I'm sorry, but that sounds like just a BIT of a stretch to me. I'm not saying it's not controversial, but especially seeing you rip apart other controversial figures, I'm just not willing to overlook this.

I'm not saying you wouldn't get a spike, but two million dollars is a bit ridiculous.

kthxbi

I wan's Hitman at Mania

I've got to agree with you. NO ONE is worth $2 million for a one-off angle.

Much like Hart himself.

OH SNAP!

Seeing hart punch out micheals would draw $2 mill EASY!

Mike Tyson was worth double that at Mania 14. And guys like Austin, Rock, Hart, HHH and Hogan definately all had in excess of $1 million payoffs for various Mania main events.

And how many of these appearances were not announced beforehand?

The difference being that they made appearence before and/or after the event. At least Tyson was at multiple RAWs before Mania, building it up WITH HIM ON TV. Big difference between that and them just mocking Bret with no announcement, mention of his name and/or him being on the shows before and/or after the one-off.

Half the people already think Bret's gonna be at Mania. They still have the Hall of Fame to build on it if they wanted to.

And for the record, they also gave Ultimate Warrior $500k for a run in at Mania 8. And they offered Bret $1 million to referee the main event in Toronto as a surprise.

That's a fair point anyway. Bret Hart was never a huge draw, in his prime, when he could physically compete. What kind of difference do you people REALLY believe he would make to the WWE's financial wellbeing if Vince McMahon made him a self-indulgent offer for a one off appearance?

And the Tyson comparison doesn't hold weight, because to my memory Tyson made four seperate appearances, all strategically placed in the lead up to WM14, and which caused a wicked spike in ratings, exposed Stone Cold Steve Austin to casual fan, drummed up a lot of interest in the PPV, and turned business around for the WWF for the next three years. Hardly a waste of money.

But they wouldn't have the same effect with Bret Hart, principally because even if the casual fans DID care enough to check out the show BECAUSE of a Bret Hart angle, there wouldn't be a hot new character like an Austin for them to latch on to and become a big WWE fan all over again, because the product is average at best nowadays, whereas back in 1997/1998 the product was hot and all it needed was for the casuals/mainstreams to give it a look.

the only things i like about bret hart is his music and him puting somebody in the sharpshooter on the opening of malcolm in the middle...
but then again i didn't grow up watching him...

Yes, but you were talking about the scenario of "even with no build up". Not that the Hall of Fame is much buildup anyway, but still.

Wow stop being a huge bret mark.

Bret is the fucking man...he's obviously gonna show up, hell he could have been entirely kidding around, you dont know.

But hey guess what? I know family members who hold grudges against other family members and wont attened events that are open invites to those they cant get along with, even after so many years. When someone just pisses you off to that extreme, I can understand it.

Bret is over it...he's just not over his distaste for Shawn, which dates back well before the screwjob. Perhaps Bret hates shawn the person, not shawn the guy who fucked over his wwf career.

But as for screwjobs, it is the wwe that cannot get over it, as evidence still shows. Just watch snme for the latest rip off.

Zen's family are Muslim.

WRONG! And on so many levels Zen. Neither party will get over it. Bret is not over it, HBK sure as hell isn't over it, and Vince isn't over it.

And Shane Helms isn't over it either.

Yeah, well Shane stays in the back when the shit starts to fly...

STAY IN THE BACK! THERE'S A SCREWJOB COMING THROUGH!

Re: Sunny, didn't she admit to actually having an affair with Michaels recently??? Maybe it all goes back to those two fighting over the same woman!?!?

He should just forgive them already.

One of the Bret Hart marks are going to respond to that by saying they never had one (Bret and Sunny).

Well, didn't Sunny also make a fool of herself at some convention recently, getting thrown out for crying and harrassing Bret, talking about them getting back together or something, basically saying they used to have something going on.

Could well be that the HBK/Bret feud all stems from the fact that they were both shagging Sunny at the same time!! (While she was engaged to Chris Candido the whole time!!)

Basically, if the reports are accurate, then Sunny has recently admitted to affairs with both Bret and Shawn over the 1996-1997 period.