JBL winning at judgement day is UNACCEPTABLE
 

I hear all these rumors about JBL winning at judgement day and I have to say it is NOT acceptable. JBL was one of the worst WWE champions of all time and he does not deserve to even mentin the WWE champioonship not to mention winning it.

Rey mysterio earned his title with hard work, dedication, connecting to the fans, innovation and respect. His title reign has been disrespect and if it ends with him losing to JBL, it will NOT BE acceptable. Another JBL reign will make the ratings drop because he is the most boring champion I've watched.

I don't see how ANYONE can accept this happening. I understand Rey might have an injured knee and need surgery, but there are other ways to excuse his time away and you can have Rey drop the title to someone like Chris Benoit. Someone equal to him in skill and respect and just as deserving of him of a title run. Not someone lik JBL who was not able to get a decent run in a whole year!!!

If JBL wins at Judgement Day it will be a mistake for the company. The fans don't boo JBL because he is a good heel, they boo him because they want to see his corny ass off T.V. Not in a good way either. JBL has only been able to get heat by being RACIST. Anyone can get heat like that. I thought when JBL lost the title, he would go back to where he belongs, opening matches on sunday night heat against other crappy workers like snitsky and tomko.

JBL does not belong in the main event! He doesnt have what it takes to be a main eventer and shouldn't beat Rey.

JBL needs the W at the Great American Bash.

Prime example of someone who knows fuck all about wrestling.

My jolly negatively reputed brother, I am really amazed that you are strong enough to survive with a John cena Avator Hates off mayte...

You are a idiot!

JBL is currently the only good thing on SmackDown, and yes I can say that due to the fact that Benoit is on Velocity more then SmackDown, and Angle is gone.

But why should you care? RAW made it by having Cena go over Hunter at Mania, SmackDown has a terrible case of "Break It" when they put Undertaker over the young rising star of Henry. By your statements, SmackDown is already a lost cause so the out comes of their future matches have little to no effect on anything at this point.

JBL is the best on the mic on smackdown. He's pretty much the only reason why I watch smackdown at all. This is LONG over-due

Mark Henry would be a MUCH better choice as champion. After all, he got that win over Taker at Mania which prevented the BREAK.

Oh, wait, he lost...

?

LOL. One more reason for me to mark out if JBL punks Mysterio.

Jbl is a GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I would argee with you about JBL winning if it wasn't for the terrible booking that is Rey's title reign. They should just put it out of it's misery and try again next time.

Double post

By the way you should understand the reality that Rey mysterio is not worthy of such a precious title...he is substituting for the late and great Eddie gurrero miss you Eddie (sob). Jbl is one of the most biggest superstar on the roster plus he is the u.s. champ. Hence he deserves every fucking ounce of it.

That was one of the MAKE IT OR BREAK IT points Vermaat had for Henry needing to go over Taker at Mania.

A relfection of past statements by Vermaat about how Henry was a young rising star, trust me when I say most of my post was not the views or opinions of The One.

Yes, Henry losing at wrestlemania put Smackdown on a downward slope, but you can still recover from it. I never said u can't, it put it on the wrong path but they can still go on the right path and JBL as champion is not the right path. All of you who are saying that JBL should be champion, did you watch his first title run? Did you? Well if you didn't, it was terrible, boring and the WORST title run I've seen in a long while. JBL can't really wrestle, he is bad in the ring. Why do you think he always fights in gimmick matches? Because it hides the fact that he can't wrestle well.

He shouldn't be champ, especially over a WRESTLER like Rey. And if there's anyone on Smackdown that deserves the title more then JBL it is Benoit. Benoit is MILES ahead of JBL and is not BORING like JBL who has like 2 moves that he uses.

Benoit is very boring.

I never said Henry was a YOUNG rising star.

Benoit boring? Lol thats a rodiculous statement. Benoit may not be the most charismatic guy on the mic, no doubt but he is a whole lot more entertaining then JBL in the ring. Benoit is probably the best wrestler on Smackdown right now. Boring? I don't think so.

Just out of curiosity, if Rey retains the title, who is there for him to fight?

JBL - UNACCEPTABLE.
Randy Orton - In serious trouble with the company.
Booker T - Talented, but hopelessly buried.
Finlay - Maybe one day, but not a legit threat in most fans' eyes.
Mark Henry - We've already seen this match three times in the last three months.
The Great Khali - No, thank you.

The babyface side of the RAW roster is full of great opponents for JBL to challenge.

Kurt Angle - The most talented performer on the roster.
Batista - Once he returns, which is supposed to be soon.
Chris Benoit - A little boring, yes, but past matches with JBL have been quite good.
Rey Mysterio - Could use the rematch clause.
Undertaker - Can disappear for months, but fans still take him seriously.
Lashley - Has that "Brock Lesnar booked properly" vibe.

A heel champion is simply better for SD right now than a face. And JBL is the most over heel on that roster.

I don't know, a Khali win would bury Rey enough so that he learns never to use his dead friends to take him to the top.

Totally agreed.


To say that JBL winning is UNACCEPTABLE is just stupid.


You're entitled to your opinion, Vermaat, but I for one would love a champion who's gimmick is not to "beat the odds" and to prove that "the heart conquers all" or some shit like that.

JBL is gold on the mic. Sure, he's not as flamboyant or exciting in the ring as Mysterio, I'll give you that. Far from it. But at least I give a damn when he wrestles, unlike Mysterio's cheap psuedo-pity title reign.

If JBL wins the title, which is UNACCEPTABLE, by the way, it'll be MAKE IT OR BREAK IT for Smackdown, will it not?

Verm...whatever
the superior class remembers he never main evented any ppv without HHH exception SummerSlam 2004.

Benoit is not the best on smackdown!
Do you know there is a guy like Batista who man handled benoit on a raw taping back in 2004 when chris was the fucking Champion.

Booker- he has beaten benoit more than any one on the current roster

Undertaker- the ultimate survivor in this era

Mark Henry- young rising star according to you

Kid Kash- don't under estimate the little rodent he is a fucking TNA X DIVISION CHAMP

I want to hear Vermaat's take on an ECW MAKE IT OR BREAK IT rant. That's almost impossible to fuck up since so many things can go wrong.

So number of moves equals boring? JBL has about the same number of moves as the Rock in his prime. Or Austin in his prime. Are you calling two of the biggest wrestlers in recent history boring?

(For the mentally challenged, this is a rhetorical question. Of course you're not. However, you're using "evidence" that works against big, popular, important names. Also, against that little wigger you're crushing on...)

I'm ashamed to say, you lost me at the word rhetorical. :'(

Him and 327 other peopler. for Fuck's sake, anyone remember when Shadow showed up at the Impact Zone, walked out of the crowd, and took it off Styles?

How many moves does Rey CURRENTLY have?

619/Senton
Front drop kick

Uh....

Rey moves list:

1. 619 /Sunset Flip
2. talking in english
3. keeping his boiling state of mind when the fans are chanting eddie eddie

Rey maybe thinking stop you people he's dead chant rey or die you fucking morons

Does jumping up from the entrance count, or does he still do that anymore? I haven't noticed. :P

HeartBreakKid2K, if your going to correct quotes, do it right...

The One, if you're going to correct corrections, do it right...

hats off to the Great ONE you are near to be in the royal superior class

Damn it, can someone translate what S-Hole just wrote, I left my Idiot to English dictionary at home.

He's using the Babelfish translator. He has to be. No human could write something that incoherent.

the hats far away al Great that you are to be near in the real upper class

yuo fcukign ppoele aer s holes

I think you guys can understand this if not....

I guess you have no chance to progress to the superior class bloody *********

....:|


What the FUCK does that say?


And if you, by some small chance, happen to be Heyman, I love you. Otherwise....:|

If I'm right, you're substituting "s hole" for "asshole". Meaning that I'm right when I say your name is "asshole".

Boy, either I'm really smart or you're really dumb.

I tried to give him at least some credit on the basis of his Mexico, ECW, and WCW tenures :o

Probably more of the latter ;)

pits of s of aer of ppoele of fcukign of yuo

I think that you types can understand this if not. ..

I guess that you do not have fortuitous progress to the upper class stains of blood *********

Does anyone remember a time when annoying twats didn't pop up all the damn time.

Not really, I remember Pentdragon showed up every month.

No, that never happened.

It's just been...more frequent as of late. :D

KK, it's bad enough when he is doing it, we don't need to be doing it too. That's like trying to calm a screaming child by screaming louder.

I remember a time when retards like him were banned.

:(

lol, Pentdragon.


Even when I lurked here (for about two years), but didn't post, I remember that guy. Terrible.

Yeah, back in the day we just had persistant twats instead of sudden rushes of twats.

I kinda miss Pentdragon and his showing up week after week even though he was supposedly perma-banned. And I kinda miss SC_vs_HHH or something like that. She/he had that annoying mouse humping a mouse gif for a sig.

I was merely trying to translate for him

Is it bad that Engrish works better?

.....I have to disagree

You have JOHN FUCKING CENA in your avatar. What the hell do you know about what a good wrestler is... JBL isn't the greatest but he is certainly better than Cena. Oh and BTW Rey has no business being anywhere near that title. And wouldn't be there had Eddie not passed

JBL is a fucking god you dweeb!

JBL winning the title from Rey Mysterio is what happens when you're at a lack of Credable main-eventers. You're left with JBL, someone talented on the mic (and politics backstage) to win the title. The match won't even be good, and Rey definatly won't look credable, but you're missing the point.

ANYONE is better than Rey..... ANYONE.

Greatest night of my life....I think I sold the thing for some pot though.

Which explains Jeff Hardy's X Title reign.

Well well well...seems that Vermaat is back. Welp...you know what time it is!

Mr. Vermaat, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Good God.

10+ pages, here we come.

I have a difference of opinion Vermult.

In short Vermin... :foc: :foc: :foc:

Oh God I agree with Vermaat

Skippy you think JBL would be an unacceptable champion?

I would accept it I wouldnt be happy at all and I would be praying for Kane to take it off him

KANE

I believe Kane was a one time showing due to it being May 19th. JBL is an incredibly credible heel, one of the best mic workers, and I believe a better draw for SmackDown and their PPVs. He is more credible, and holds a certain level of respect, and while we are on the subject, JBL got himself over, Rey's friend died, that idea is wearing off quickly...almost as quickly as the legacy of Eddie Guerrero disappears.

Well, there you go. Either way, it needs to go onto a heel. Kane's as good - if not better, with his See No Evil momentum - a choice as JBL.

Kane still gets cheered, that makes him a heel, but not a very good one. Not that it's his fault, he has tons of momentum and was shown as a face for months before this (IMO) useless heel turn.

More Credable:
http://www.progressiveboink.com/b/images/god/gode6.jpg

Less Credable:
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...jerichorey.jpg

by the by, i still miss jericho.

I agree, nothing is more credible than Mysterio.

And when I say "nothing", I mean everything.

They need to hold off on JBL winning for at least one month. If Rey loses now, he's done. He's lost twice to two talentless hosses in Henry and Khali and is getting his ass handed to him by Kane (spoilers for Smackdown). Hell just have JBL take him lightly, then Rey pulls off the upset. Just one defense can give Rey come credibility back. I mean his title run has been botched ever since the Triple Threat match at Mania when Angle ran train over him and Orton.

And no I'm not agreeing with Vermaat, because JBL = Money

The Babelfish is Infallable unlike my spelling.

I cannot be bothered in pointing out all the crap In Vermaats post but I have to say I did mark out when I found another thread made by him.

And post no.3 by Flair Wooo is his greatest post ever by a fair margin.

I would love to see a "Who's the greatest pure wrestler of all time" topic - with Vermaat taking the side of Cena and Zeeboo taking the side of Hogan. You guys remember Zeeboo? Haven't seen that guy post in ages. Banned?

I have a strict policy about responding to any poster who has Cena as a icon,
but I must say that as much as I hate to admit JBL is a good choice as the world champion unti Batista and Angle comes back and besides does it really matter just who is champion? SD will be shown online anyways.

I'm a huge Rey Mysterio mark, even though I know thats an unpopular opinion right now. I'm thrilled that he became champion, but the way he has been booked since being champ, like being squashed week after week, and always seeming to be an after thought on Smackdown, he should probably drop the title. I like JBL, and I enjoyed his run as champion in 2004, so he definetely is a good choice. If JBL loses the way Rey has been jobbed out the last few weeks, it'll look terrible that JBL couldn't beat Mysterio. However, no matter what the outcome, I think the match will be better than people think. I think it can be a pretty entertaining big v. little man matchup. Both are entertaining, and I think the match can surprise people, and end up being real good.

Mysterio wouldn't be that bad a champion if he was booked properly and wasn't squashed week in and week out.

I think the fact he is getting squashed is the only thing that is making this believable.

It's also like the worst booking ever. Regardless of believability

Like I said in another thread, this was a stillborn championship. Rey Rey was booked to fail well before he was ever squashed.

Actually Vince in a genius. Rey had all the emotion support, momentum, and fans on his side (regardless of how he got it) before he won the Title, now that he won everyone is tired of him...Vince took the world most famous Cruiserweight, gave him a run at the top, then he flopped. Vince NEVER has to give a Cruiserweight "The Big One" ever again.

No, Rey has like won 4 matches in the past 5 months. Rey has not flopped terrible booking is what has made him flop.

Chris Jericho was playing second fiddle to Hunter, Stephanie, and THEIR DOG when he was Champion, not to mention The Rock/Hogan match was far mroe advertised for WrestleMania, yet he was blamed for the poor buyrates. I'm not saying it's his fault people are tired of him already, I am saying his reign is a flop, and in McMahon's mind that's no matter what the reason it is reason enough to never book a little guy to win a World Title ever again.

Wait...So overshadowing his win at the Rumble with another Taker challenge is good support for the "emotional" moment?

The fact that they didn't even plan on him being in the Main Event?

Yeah. Makes perfect sense. It was GENIUS!

Dude I would rather play 2nd fiddle to HHH, Step, and their dog on Raw then Job to every wrestler on SD.

But yes Vince probably will justify that way.

That's what they WANT YOU TO THINK! It's GENIUS!

I'm sorry, are you trying to twist my words around? Vince McMahon being "a genuis" was a joke based around the fact that he has never much enjoyed the work of little guys, and now he has a reason to never make one Champ again. You know that was my point, so don't be an ass and try to twist my words around to make me sound like a fucking retard. I know how he was booked, I was there for all of it. Did I say they booked Rey well? I said he had emotional and fan support...I supose my use of the word momentum was a mistake, I meant it in the sense of he was riding the momentum created by Rey Mysterio being the stand in for the recently deceased Eddie Guerrero. You know that was my point, so don't go playing this twist my shit to make my look bad.

Your little diatribes do more to make you look like a retard than I could ever do.

GENIUS!!!!

Whatever. If I came across as bitter, I didn't feel it. I was saying you were being an ass for twisting my words around, I stand by that. End of story.

I'm still somewhat like Rey, just not right now. I haven't enjoyed him too much in the past year. He's a lot better wrestling with the cruisers, overshadowing the heavyweights' matches like he did in WCW. The only reason he has the belt is because Eddie passed away. I've lost a lot of fucking respect for Rey for milking his friend's death for a main event push.

I'd actually rather have JBL as the champ and hold the belt for a few months. Not a lot. He can talk a lot of shit, defend himself in the ring, and win. It'd be great to actually have people fight him to defend thier honour. It'd make a great title win for whoever beats JBL for the belt. Someone like Booker T would be perfect. JBL could say how Booker came close to winning the title once, and lost... and hasn't achieved anything since and all the sweet promos he'd cut.

...... But Booker is a heel right now, and I'd prefer him to stay that way. He's a lot better as a heel. I love when he had the "I'm not stupid" angle for a few months.

JBL is the best heel on the smackdown roster at the moment
Rey is a joke of a midget who has lost 3 times in his last 3 matches



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looks like Reys walking out of Judgement Day with the gold then. JBL wont win at Judgement Day im almost certain Rey has been crushed as some sort of stupid attempt to make him retaining the title another miracle. McMahon doesnt care about the credibility of the title. He just wants to run his Rey miracle man angle

What's with all the Benoit bashing in this thread. :(

Anyway, JBL is awesome! His Title run was great in my opinion, but if he wins the title he should have his cabinet back. The "Cowardly heel champ" thing works better if he has people helping him.

Okay... I just realised this thread has three pages... and there were only one or two Benoit comments. Never mind.

Smackdown dosen't have the support needed to run efficently.

Every new talent Smackdown! seems to bring in...disappears in a month or two.

Therefore, Smackdown! sucks ass when it comes to talent we can depend on (exception of Lashley, and MNM)


(Shoot Time)
And Vermatt be serious, Glue you lips to your butt so you can prove that you do suck ass :p

And you're still retarded. Ah, the beauty of watching people bitch on the internet. GENIUS!

After reading this thread so far, I am now officially on the JBL for WORLD CHAMP bandwagon. :y: