SmackDown! Spoilers: ECW on Sci-Fi Main Event Revealed
 

The following is from the Canadian spoilers of SmackDown!...

WWE will continue with the trend of stars from outside the ECW brand coming in as Batista will challenge ECW World champion Big Show on this Tuesday's ECW on Sci Fi from The Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City. The match was officially announced during Smackdown when it aired in Canada tonight.

Source: http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=19388&p=1

There is no way to end this match without hurting one of their heat.

Batista is on his war path back to the title, a loss would make him look bad

And Show cannot keep up his monster streak as the fighting champ unless his wins.

I am guessing a Sabu run in on show, and a Kennedy run in on batista

Notice how it doesn't say that if it's Extreme Rules. If it isn't (which is likely), they've got an easy way out. If it is, though, there are going to be problems.

Stupid decision I think. I have no problem with Big Show defending against WWE guys for now, but Batista is probably the worst person they could've chosen, he's meant to be going for the WHC. This match just seems pointless.

Edit- By worst person I mean not that it wont be a good match, but that they're mean to be building up Batista, not have him losing in title matches he shouldn't be in in the first place. What i would do is start a feud up between Big Show and another ECW wrestler, possibly Sabu.

I love these weekly title defenses by Show.

They're just randomly throwing people on the show and they don't give a shit. They should have done Sabu/Show this week, it would have made sense with it being in the Hammerstein and all.

Maybe one of these weeks Show can take a day off, so that they might be able to start getting over some of their talent.

For real, name one other ECW guys that is getting any kind of "Push"

they have so many guys set to debut that the rest of the roster are jobbing with no storyline.

I find to hard to handle that a former ECW champ(Credible) and former tag champs (Guido, roadkill and doring) are all jobbing out, but yet BALLS FUCKING MAHONEY IS GETTING A PUSH!

He looks like shit, and unless he is swinging a chair he sucks.....

And chairshots are "illegal"

So find me any logic in pushing the Hardcore Chair Swinging Freak over legitamate contenders who dont need the garbage wrestling niche to get over

I agree Matthew, and whats the deal with not every match being extreme rules?

They should start some storylines now though, it just seems to me like lazy booking.

I can deal with them making ECW just another ECW show, but shit, if it is going to be WWECW, at least use the WWE storyline formula. Random squash after random squash is crap.

Poor Justin Credible jobbing on dark matches and to Kurt Angle in a matter of seconds. You think he is Aldo Montoya or something.

They could just do a double knockout.

Yeah its like I already know what's going to happen on the next show.

Test beats a jobber(or in other words: original ecw wrestler).

Sandman beats some stupid gimmick wrestler.

Sabu in ACTION!!!!!!(boring...)

Big Show beats Batista with interference from Kenendy.

If Heyman had full control this wouldn't be happening. I think the only thing Heyman has any say in at the moment is in pushing the Big Show.

God I can't wait to shit all over this

After the Punkasm

That could hurt them both though. I think people are gonna get tired of this bullshit copout ending crap with the ECW title.

Well that goes without saying

What ECW needs is a second hour. Then they could afford to have crap on their shows. The fans are going to shit all over both Batista and Big Show. Sabu and Ken Kennedy will no doubt do run-ins, probably leading to an impromtu Extreme Rules Tag Team main event, Big Show & Ken Kennedy vs. Batista & Sabu, with Sabu probably pinning Big Show setting up a title match. That's the only way I see this being saved.

Add this to the probable CM Punk vs. Stevie Richards and Test & Mike Knox vs. Tommy Dreamer & Sandman matches. You will probably get a pretty stupid show. They might also try and fit The FBI vs. The Basham Brothers on there as well, but that is like three tag team matches on one show. They'll probably cut the main event short and not have the tag team match.

So yeah, The Basham Brothers beat The FBI in about a standard tag team match. CM Punk beats Stevie Richards with the Anaconda Vice in a short match. Test & Mike Knox find themselves beaten by Sandman & Tommy Dreamer in Extreme Rules. Big Show and Batista draw when Sabu and Ken Kennedy run-in. They need to let guys actually wrestle on the shows. They really need another hour.

Guaranteed clusterfuck ending for this match. No doubt.

Batista will get DQ'ed. Meaning he will have to buy the Big Show a banana split.

Kennedy shows up and distracts Batista. Show smashes a chair over his head and then choke slams him. Show gets the pin.

You know, I'm still not wild about all the "WWE" guys on ECW, but I really like how they're building up the title to mean something. No title has been defended and showcased as well in years. I mean, the title has been defended against Edge, Cena (sort of), , Kurt Angle, Big Show,
Ric FLair, The Undertaker, Kane, and now Batisa. That's 8 big names in the span of 2 months.

Interesting. If Batista loses that means hes lost what? 3 in a row then.

For some reason im expecting interference from either Undertaker or Kane... hmmm, but a title change would suck, as well as another loss for Bats could be an issue as well...

Hmhmhm

I'm fearing for both Show's and Tista's safety Tuesday night.

"If Show or Batista wins, we riot."

Fuck, it is at the Hammerstien, I forgot.....

What a shitty fucking main event to put to a core ECW crowd. Hope they don't go live... Wait.. I really hope they go live.

You know what I wonder.... Could Show still do a moonsault...

Let me flip that a little for you.

Essentially, they're establishing the title is so good that none of the ECW's Alumni are worth it. So when they stop having interest in the title, why should anyone else?

Well, the only one on the ECW roster that is a realistic contender to the ECW title is Sabu, so if they blow their load now...where do they go from there? They kind of need to tread water until RVD comes back and I think this has been an effective way thusfar by having some big name WWE talent compete and be unsuccessful for the Title. Especially if the rumors are true that RVD was scheduled to have a long ECW title run through 2007. What could they possibly have done differently that would have drawn in high enough ratings and made the show interesting? I personally have enjoyed the show more and more each week. They are finally starting to establish some story lines. I'd still like them to eliminate some of the fluff and have like 3 solid matches 10 minutes+ every show until they get more talent on their roster. ECW should be about the action in the ring and not a bunch of glossed up bullshit. I thought that was the point, to be different than (or "then"...if it's a WWE Orton T-shirt :shifty: ) the other brands?

What the fuck has ECW become? Smackdown II? Fuck

What I'd like to see is to counteract the bullshit Sabu's been getting from Heyman, is for him to show up in the Hammerstein with Fonzie and have him cut a promo that tears into Heyman and him selling out ECW. The promo would then piss off Heyman so much that he makes the Main Event a 3-way dance for the ECW Title. If you're gonna have Kennedy do a run in, let him swanton Batista through a table and have Sabu or Show pick up the pin fall.

Way to continually piss on the legacy of ECW, Vince. :nono:

Of course not. ECW's main event has star power.

So it's Tuesday Night Raw.

...That star power just happens to be borrowed from Raw...

DAMMIT! It wouldn't send a minute ago. :foc:

That would be pretty sweet. They should let Heyman handle this show, just because he knows how to cater to these fans.

I'd personally have Fonzie come out, shoot on the new ECW. Big Show comes out, Chokeslams Fonzie, Sabu is added to the main event in an old school 3-Way Dance. Tommy Dreamer and Sandman beat Test and Mike Knox in an Extreme Rules Tag Team Match. They go backstage to chase down Heyman, but The Basham Brothers are there to protect him (yay!), but The FBI runs in and takes out The Bashams, leaving Heyman to get caned by Dreamer and Sandman. Maybe have Balls Mahoney and Justin Credible join in.

CM Punk defeats Stevie Richards with the Anaconda Vice. I'd love to see him do the Pepsi Plunge in ECW, but let's face it, it is unlikely. CM Punk should use Miseria Cantare as his entrance theme, just because it's what Punk is associated with, and that will get him over more. "This Fire Burns" isn't bad, but it doesn't really fit, in my opinion.

The main event would see Batista go first, after Ken Kennedy runs in, and hits the Kenton Bomb through a table. Sabu gets the cover, which leaves just him and Big Show. The ECW guys come out and beat the crap out of Big Show, which allows Sabu to hit a Triple Jump Moonsault for the pin and the title. That would get the crowd popping.

So yeah, that puts the ECW Title on Sabu for a week (I have no doubt Big Show will win it back) and it allows one night of the ECW guys looking good. Plus it establishes a "New Breed" guy that the old-school ECW fans are allowed to like.

Can't wait to see Batista's reaction to the "YOU SUCK DICK" chants. It's gonna be awesome.

:rofl: i wish i booked this shit, no job could be easier.

That, a steroids chant, or a more topical H-G-H chant

*shakes head*

Watch ECW: Where Two WWE Guys fight for the ECW title...

You were too wordy. You could have ended there.

I'll bet they use "This Fire Burns" as his theme. It was on the WWE cd so more casual fans will know it better than Miseria Cantare or The Cult Of Personality.

Man, I wish I could be like CM Punk, but that'd mean I'd have to stop drinking.g

Big Show IS ECW. WWE OWNS ECW. ECW IS RUNNING AGAIN. It may be under new management, but its still ECW. ANd anything they do counts as ECW. It may not be the way you like it, but those are facts.

He's got big balls.

I have no ill will towards WWECW, seriously. As long as I can get a CM Punk fix, it's all good. I am going to say, however:

Big Show is not ECW. He's WWE, through and through. That being said, he has stepped up his game quite a bit, and is doing the best work in his career. But he's a WWE guy, and will be remembered as a WWE guy. Slapping an ECW shirt on him doesn't change that fact. End of story.

The only things about ECW that are still ECW are Joey Styles doing (some) of the commentating, and the Letters used to describe the promotion. Excepting Angle/RVD, there hasn't really been a true ECW match since it's come to Sci-Fi. (I don't mean Garbage Epic, I mean really. Good. Wrestling. The match that turned me onto the company was Malenko/Guerrero, not the New Jack-garbage shit.)

Also, the two WWE guys fighting for the ECW Title bit is a joke. Though I am seeing quite a few parallels between ECW and the Alliance storyline. I have more issues with the likes of Mike Knox and Kelly Kelly: A Generic Big guy getting a push, never seen THAT before. :roll: A stripper wannabe that can't even dance, even better. :roll:

I'm gonna call it now. Next Week, it's gonna be Big Show defending against A: Randy Orton, B: John Cena, or C: Triple H.

I don't hate the product, far from it. It'd be my favorite brand if it had different letters to promote it. Be honest with yourself: ECW is ECW in name only. The fact that McMahon seems to have a serious lack of faith in anyone OTHER than the WWE boys is killing the product, IMO.

ECW IS ECW. Vince bought it. Period. That means if he wanted to showcase nude midget wrestling on HIS new ECW he could. And it would be ECW. By your logic Big isn't ECW or WWE. He's still WCW.

The Giant's tenure in WCW: 4 years
Big Show's run in WWE: roughly 7 years
Big Show's run in ECW: not quite 2 months

Your take on my logic is fuzzy. Hell, while we're at it, I guess that means that Sean Waltman is still Global Championship Wrestling, right? and Larry Z (a guy I can't personally stand) is still AWA. :foc:

You misread the part where I said that... He's a WWE Guy with an ECW shirt slapped on him. That's no different from slapping an Alliance T-Shirt on Steve Austin or Kurt Angle from 6 years ago. Just because someone SAYS they are "not a WWF/E guy" doesn't suddenly MAKE them not a WWF/E guy.

ECW, to many fans, is more than three letters slapped together and chairs and tables. It's a mindset, it's a standard of quality. What's going to be shown in less than an hour will be a good television program, but it would do better if it wasn't called ECW. That brings forth certain expectations that it could never, and boy do I mean Never, live up to.

Vince owns the right to the letters to be used in that combination. He has the contracts of some of their former stars, but what we will be watching is NOT, by any means, ECW. He has no grasp on the atmosphere. His vision is what the crowds will have a problem with, and he'll solve that issue by giving us MORE of his vision.

Your examples with Sean and Larry don't quite work. If ANYTHING, you'd be saying that Larry isn't a TNA guy right now, and that he's actually an "AWA guy but with the letters TNA slapped across his microphone."

(and I hate that, because I'm of the opinion that Big Show isn't true ECW as well)

touche'. I was actually being facetious, though.

...So does that mean that after Vince Russo took control of WCW it wasn't WCW because Bischoff wasn't running things? I mean hell it took a drastic change, and yet everyone calls Russo's WCW reign...WCW.

Just because it changed owners, direction, and general attitude doesn't mean it isn't the company. I can't think of a whole lot of poeple who need the lecture on ECW being more then just letters less then myself or Destor, but it is undeniable. Vince McMahon's ECW is the new ECW, and it's still ECW. And all this shit about ECW could do better if it wasn't called ECW...not true. ECW is marketable. ECW is money in the bank. ECW has more people fallowing it NOW then it did when Heyman owned it. Simple fact. McMahon chose to spend millions of dollars to buy ECW, and now he is going to get money back from that investment. If he just made a new brand and called it "Velocity on Sci-Fi" it simply wouldn't do as well. Because ECW has history, because people who never saw a second of ECW programing but claim to be lifelong fans of it, because of Rise and Fall and the recent nostalgia for ECW has come around...that is why ECW is doing the numbers it is doing right now.

Big Show is now ECW...he will always be a part of ECW's history. Accept it. I don't like that after Russo took over David Arquette became WCW Champion, but that doesn't mean that his name won't forever be associated with WCW. The new ECW is ECW, it's not the same flavor, but New Coke was still Coke...not as good as the original...but Coke none the less.

In your world I suppose. Or do you just get to pick and choose who not to acknowledge? Guess that would be right.

No. ECW is three letters. Anyone who thinks different is a company mark. Does ECW still have the same feel? No. Quality? No. Is it ECW? Yes. Fuckin cry about it.

Yeah, he will. And it will make more money. It will make ECW a bigger name than it was. It's origional fans will be pissed, but for everyone of them lost (and I was one) will be replaced by two new ones, and ultimatly make ECW bigger than it ever was before. You can make this about it not being the way you want it, but it wont stop it from being ECW. Big Show is ECW. Because the owner of ECW says so. And there is no amount of crying that will change that. Get used to it.

One of our biggest problems is that ECW really isn't a company at this point, if that makes any sense. ECW is now more of a show. It's a part OF a company. If the brand extension were treated a little bit more seriously (even if it were still a work), I think some of us might feel a bit differently. That could easily just be me, though.

Huh, Pepsi is bringing up a good point. ECW is not a company, it is now a show. However to counter I would ask a simple question...what is a wrestling company other then a series of episodes and events in one long show?

A roster of talent, for one thing. (Oh, and while I didn't come out and say it in my previous post, I think that that post of yours before mine was quite good.)

It's sort of like when the WWF first purchased WCW. Sure, Vince McMahon and the WWF owned the rights to the letters WCW, but even in the beginning of the whole Invasion angle where they briefly stuck to WCW guys wrestling WCW guys, a lot of people wouldn't classify those as "WCW matches". Some people even go as far as to consider Booker T the last ever WCW World Heavyweight Champion, with the last WCW World Heavyweight Title Match occurring in March (or April, not a game of semantics here) 2001, between Booker and Scott Steiner.

But that's not a legistical truth. If you are to break up a company into various eras then yes, the Vince McMahon owned wCw was not the same as the Ted Turner owned WCW. But at the end of the day Buff Bagwell vs. Booker T was a WCW match...that happened on WWE programing. See that's the problem with writing storylines in a sport's setting. Sports, all sports, are based largly on facts and statistics. Win/Lose records, averages, titles and honors won. When storylines are writen in the hard facts become blurred. And it spreads through the organization itself. When the NFL and AFL merged to create what we now call the NFL with the National and American divisions, the Jets were still the Jets. A Jet playing in the American division of the NFL was a part of the same team that someone who played for The Jets of the American Football League.

Just because ECW (The Jets/AFL) went under the WWE (NFL) banner, doesn't mean it's history starts over. Big Show is now the Champion of ECW, he holds the same belt that Taz once held. The owner and the parent companies have changed, but the workers and the names (including their histories) remain the same.

For the record, this is a fairly useless debate as I mentioned earlier it's scripted records, so McMahon could wake up tomorrow and re-write history if he so chose to. Fiction intertwined with Fact...endless meaningless debates...why god created Internet Forums I suppose...

The difference in your football analogy is that ECW would've been more like the AFL itself than the Jets.

I will be fair here, I think the One has put up good points, not unlike Destor. Yet, unlike Destor, he hasn't tried to resort to hostility. "Cry about it?" I wasn't saying that I will never watch this version of the show. I stated that I liked it.

Kurt Angle, a guy who is loved by the ECW masses, WWE masses, etc. etc. is not an ECW guy in my opinion. That being said, he fits into their mold as a good wrestler. The ECW fans respect good wrestlers. (and garbage gods, but I digress).

At the same time, I watched a good match get shit on because it involved WWE guys. I'd be fine with the program if it were called ECE (Extreme Championship Entertainment) or any 3 other letters.

Also, if ECW is treated like just three letters, as Destor suggested, then WWE shouldn't be trying to market it based off of its history. They will however, because it makes money. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

By no means do you need to like it. But don't DISLIKE it because it's not the ECW of old. I personally think that based soley on minute per minute entertainment ECW is the best show currently, regardless of how incredible I think the ECW of old was.