Let's talk about Kevin Thorn.
 

I've only seen him wrestle twice, but I like him a lot. The gimmick isn't new, but it doesn't seem very familiar. That 'stunner' thing he does with the opponent's feet on the ropes is SICK (especially the way Guido sold it). His valet is hot in a creepy way. I can see him being a big time player. What do you think?

P.S. - I didn't watch SmackDOWN! during the time of Mordecai. Is that him?

I think it's ironic that the game guys who were balking at the Zombie (The announce team) are creaming themselves over how Thorn is all ECW.

And yes, it's the D&D guy.

I'm a mark. I love the look, the entrance, the music, God help me, I'm even fond of the name.

Yeah I like the character, I'm not sure which I prefer out of this and Mordecai. But seeing as this is his character now, I'll roll with it. I agree that he seems like hes going to be a big time player, he seems to have all the right tools. It's just getting the right gimmick. I think this could very well be it, but then again everybody said that about the Mordecai character.

But until being proven otherwise by the gimmick failing, you can count me in on the Kevin Thorn bandwagon.

But even so, he's still a fucking vampire. Gimmicks weren't what ECW was about at all. They were kinda being hypocritical, but that doesn't mean he can't still be awesome.

How'd they describe it? ECW is a place for outcasts or something? That may be kinda true, but it was never a place for the supernatural. To their credit though, at least they say he's into the vampire life style instead of trying to sell him as an ACTUAL vampire.

I like him. I like his valet more, but then again...Daffney is my favorite "Diva" of all time.

Do you think we eventually could see a "Flock" of sorts consisting of bite victims?

Oh shit, that's Daffney? I didn't even notice.

That's a pretty good idea. It'd be a good way to get more guys TV time simultaneously too, since they've only got an hour. I just hope Shannon Moore doesn't join him.

I didn't really like him as Modecai, but so far I'm really impressed with Kevin Thorn.

No, that's not Daffney...I was just explaining my taste in valet's. I'd love to see her in ECW though.

I was thinking the same thing and I agree anyone but Shannon! If you want to go with a Brood/Flock type thing, I think Joey Mercury would be a good addition once he's out of rehab...and dare I say...Jeff Hardy?

I don't mind Kevin Thorn. I prefer him to Mike Knoxx.

But anyway we should be talking about Rene Dupree, and how different he looks now. I couldn't believe that was him.

Yeah, Ariel is, well, Ariel.
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...s/a/ariel.html

At least I'm pretty sure that's her.

EDIT: Actually, maybe not. Don't see any mention of WWE at all, not even in the links that page gives. Oh well.

Naw Corky.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com.../s/shelly.html

Yeah there was some naked pictures of her going around earlier in the year I believe.

Kevin Thorn's Entrance Video

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/vid...n%2Fprofile%2F

I do think there is a lot they can do with the character, it could be an interesting social comment type of deal, the same way Raven was, although obviously there will obviously not be as much depth. Still, a nice change, and hopefully it isn't going to be just a total cartoon.

No way that can't be her. From that sight:

1st Week of July to 1st Week August 2006
Lucha Libre Femenil
Monterrey, Mexico
Ariel returns to Mexico for another summer tour

Plus, those photos were like Kryptonite to my Ariel fetish. God, I hope that's not her....thank god for make up then.

Its Shelly Martinez as Blitz post says

And yes, she is fucking hot

That's more like it!! :drool:

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...sireupw/07.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...sireupw/04.jpg
http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...sireupw/09.jpg http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...sireupw/08.jpg

So would this have been Gangrel's gimmick if he weren't so fat?

Kevin Thorn is everything Gangrel wished he was

They were mocking him before he stepped into the Ring. Thorne, OTOH, was praised for being ECW material before stepping into the ring.

Do you see where I'm going with this?

BTW.

They're not saying he's a Vampire. They're saying he follows Vampirism. Two totally different things. It's that whole underground scene thing. Hell, they could take it farther if they wanted and claim he's mentally disturbed.... As long as they don't have him turn into a bat via bad special effects, I'm fine.

What if it was good special effects? would you be fine with that?

Thanks for the blatantly obvious.

I'd mark out if Kevin Thorn ran in during The Great Khali and Undertaker's Last Man Standing Match and knocked them both down for the ten count.

Kevin Fertig is a pretty talented big man, and he's great with characters like this. The only reason Mordecai flopped was because of his lame-ass brawl with Hardcore Holly. No disprespect to Holly, but he should have taken a squash loss to Mordecai.

Just ignore that post. I was skimming the thread and thought someone was bitching about them doing a supernatural gimmick. I misread their post though.

Although I would laugh my ass off for a video of Thorn going crazy and pretending to be a bat.

That would be hilarious.

Wait, so Kevin Thorne isn't Gangrel?

That is correct BDC

Hell, I'd mark out.

They could even mock Sports Entertainment in the process. I mean, they used to have a superhero team. A couple, actually, considering Molly, then later Rosey....

Wasn't Gangrel supposed to come in with him at some point? Or was that just a rumour?

I didn't think they spelled it with an 'e'. Kevin Thorn, right?

If he did, we would have the words "Gangrel is a part of White Wolf" down our throats everytime the WWE made reference to their copyrights.

But yeah, I like this Kevin Thorn (this is alot better than the shitty Mordecai, even though that was booked VERY wrong). I have a liking for vamps myself, so this is worth the price. And yeah, I would bang Ariel (and bite her ALOT if she wanted to) the second I had the opportunity.

They signed the wrestler, and he was rumoured to show up in support of Fertig, possibly as part of a stable. That doesn't mean he has to be called "Gangrel" anymore than Fertig had to be called "Mordecai."

And yeah, there's no "E." If they were smart they would have spelled it with one, though.

What do you call that Stunneresque move that he does?

It's Nigel McGuiness' Tower of London.

Wassis? A gimmicked wrestler in ECW getting a good reception from smarks?

Nah, its all good. Ferig looks like he can carry himself in the ring and, as WWKD has already said, he's not a vampire as such so its not nearly a cringe-worthy. All it needs now is a bit of Heyman spin and realism and we'll have a star on our hands.

I saw Nigel McGuiness at the HWA show I went to last week. He definitely didn't do that move.

Precisely.

You can keep repeating that it was a farce, but that's understood. What you don't seem to understand is that explaining that doesn't make it any less ironic, the point is only really ironic because of that.

So you can repeat it again if you want, but all you're really proving is that the answer to "do you see where I'm going with this?" Was no.

....What? :wtf:

Kane Knight has a way of paying attention to the gayest parts of sentences.

Winning wrestling arguments is all he has going for him. Don't steal his essence!

Now you're getting int

You see, this is part of what makes it ironic.

They play up one gimmicky character as a farce, and play up another as having a home. They take a string of these guys and mock them for having no place in eCW. Then they have Fertig debut in a gimmick that's not only similar to one they've already used (albeit less retarded), but in a similar fashion to the stuff they've already labeled as not belonging.

It's not ironic because it ignores the intent behind the characters. It's ironic because the intent is to now push a concept which you had similarly devalued over a series of weeks. I understand why Vegas doesn't get it, lacking basic english skills as is often the case with negroes, but you strike me as, well, white. :shifty:

Vegas hasn't posted in this thread. Not even once.

You two are pretty interchangable. :D

:roll:

No, I get what you are saying, I just don't agree. Or, in the words of John Cena, "nigga please."

That's "All you people look alike to me" in white speak.

Between black people?

between afterlife and vermaat?

Between John Cena and Triple H?

Between Xero and Sadistic?

Oh, come on, EVERYONE knows I'm sadistic by now. If they don't, they're stupid.

having alter-egos is gay

So I suppose you're gay?

Not that I care. I'm just wondering if your manhood is going to crumble because you're so insecure.

so do u think im this rockgurl or someone then?

No, I think you're actually like Vermaat... a genuine dumb, retarded newbie. Get the fuck out the forum!

No.

You're actually a bit higher on the stupid scale. WWEFan4Lyfe would be my guess.

thats original. do u get ur kicks from ownering n00bs instead of havin a life?

You know, claiming things are original in a sarcastic way is less original than anything you can add it to.

I see where the sticking point is. You've assumed that, just because I do not agree, I did not understand.

Way to not answer the question and sound like a pompous tool. :y:

Ironic, since asking something which is essentially "how can you not see things my way?" Is the act of a pompous tool. Do you ever tire of being a hypocrite?

I owner n00bs also.

...BTW Emo sucks

Stunning. :|

You're asking something I've not only already answered, but should need not explain in the first place. I clearly see it differently from you.

If I were to ask you, "how can you not see this is ironic?" How would you answer? Perhaps repeating your argument that it wasn't ironic, from the previous three posts?

Fine. Here's my answer.

They play up one gimmicky character as a farce, and play up another as having a home. They take a string of these guys and mock them for having no place in eCW. Then they have Fertig debut in a gimmick that's not only similar to one they've already used (albeit less retarded), but in a similar fashion to the stuff they've already labeled as not belonging.

Wait a mintue Xero Limit is Sadistic?

You mean Xero Limit got over by flamming himself?

God, no one picked up on the CAPITALIZATION of "sadistic"?

It's a word too you know.

So...Are you Sadistic?

Do I have to spell it out for you?

I-t w-a-s a j-o-k-e period I u-s-e-d t-h-e n-o-n p-r-oper noun version of the word.

(Yeah, I got tired of putting -s.)

So...Are you Sadistic?

No, I'm Chris Sabin.

What are you trying to say?