John Cena
 

why does everyone hate Cena and his followers? i can understand that u fink he gets more opportunities than other wrestlers, but whats so different from triple h or even stone cold in wwf? if vince thinks that hes the best man for the job then theres nothing u can do xcept for stop watchin.

and why hate cena fans. i suppose i'm wot u call a 'mark' for cena. wasnt everyone a mark for someone at one point? i bet you all had a fav wrestler who you liked but they werent cool or liked?

I like Cena.

But it's only fair to warn, you're in big trouble after typing like you just did.

Sorry Thrilla....

Vocal....Why THE FUCK DO YOU TYPE like you're text messaging someone on a fucking phone??!!!!

Yeah, Cena as a WWE champ didn't work for me though, it just pissed me off, he had the merch. but he should have stayed U.S champ material, and possibly even gone heel, either would have been fine.

Cena's been on fire as of late. His promos are amongst the best in the business.

...

hey if u wanna be anal and take care 2 type everyfin exact then knock urself out?

It's true.

His last good promo was the one with Edge and Trips that was some fine shit.

Haha

I thought his promo on Edge this past Monday was pretty money. Crying Bitch Illustrated? C'mon, that was funny.

Also, for some reason, I marked out a little bit when he FU'ed Viscera.

and you hate grade school kids and teenage girls y? if they are "marks" n they kno no better then why is it ur jobs to humiliate them? u were once a mark and i bet you loved the rock, or austin or the undertaker when everyone wanted their underdog to win.

It's true. I was an Ultimate Warrior mark. Looking back, I feel terrible.

And Cena's not NEARLY the trouble Jim Hellwig was. He's even got more wrestling ability.

Everyone marked out for that, its the first time Vis has been airbourne WITHOUT a crane

I dont think Cena is terrible, just Mediocre, I've seen to much of him frankly, and unlike The rock etc. I dont think he has much 'lasting' appeal

i beginning to like you Anybody Thrilla.

there's one thing worse than kids who love cena, its the guys who jump on your own bandwagon and hate them for being conventional.

ur like goths - who try so hard not to dress to convention that they all end up looking the same and defeat their own purpose

u sure like the big fonts

Wow, thats pretty clever of you, I didnt think many people picked up on that :y:

I remember at one point, I was getting pretty sick of The Rock. All of his promos were the same, and in-ring, he wasn't really all that amazing. However, the second he went away, I realized that I missed the hell out of him, and I marked like a bitch when he came back. I'm not saying the same thing would happen with Cena for you...just something to think about.

cocaine

it happened with triple h when he bust his quad. every1 marked out for him when he came back. went from zero to hero

:D WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Also true.

thats bullshit and u kno it.

C'mon, The Rock never gets old!

But is it Cena, Austin, or The Rock's fault that they were being cheered? They were just given an opportunity and their personalities caught on with the fans. It's not like anybody was being brainwashed or anything. People can cheer for whatever the hell it is they want to cheer for, and for whatever reason.

No, he was definitely very stale at one point.

So was Austin. And don't even get me STARTED on Hogan.

Hulk Hogan would have done himself some favours if he just got kidnapped straight after he was popular in the 80s

cena is no where near hogan or triple h when it comes to this sort of stuff. the diff is i bet cena would rather be doing his old routine and his old stuff and not caring if the fans hated him or cheered him, whereas hogan and hhh wanted the limelight all for themselves. cena today is a product of wwe, not cena.

so go boo vince instead

You would do us all some favors if you shut the fuck up.

is that to me or jj?

Also true. I don't think it was Cena's idea to keep the title on himself for a year.

Because he doesn't entertain me like he used too.

i hope i am convincing some of u guys not to hate cena. anybody thriller seems clued up already and has got that.

Obviously I respect Cena to a certain extent, dont get me wrong I respect the guys who draw the money as much as I respect the guys who can really wrestle, and wrestle well.

I also think Cena could be a pretty OK wrestler...If he stayed within the US title leagues where the WWE are pushing him like mad, they only want him to use a few moves to squash others.

What does his in-ring performance have to do with the US title?

maybe u dont understand his character he's aimed at kids my age, y would u like him?

and austin was loved bcos his ability... no, bcos of his gimmick and anti-hero attitude. cena is austin for 2006.

Definitely a great heel. But I still cheer Cena because I think his promos are fresh and entertaining. His delivery is second to none. And I really don't think he's as bad in-ring as everybody makes him out to be. He's just a brawler, not a technical wizard. I don't think everybody HAS to be a technical wizard. The brawler style is just part of his character, and personally, I think it suits him well. Also, he's capable of having some really good matches.

I just said you idiot. Making him a main eventer (pushing him like mad) results in him always using the same moves and winning. thus making him limited, The US title isnt very hot anymore so he wouldnt be constantly using the same moves, and would be more flexible.

but its ok to ridicule john cena fans. ha ha.

u dont know whether ur coming or going! hows it feel to be flamed by a n00b

So I'm an idiot now? Shut the fuck up. The US title has absolutely nothing to do with John Cena's in-ring ability. WHATSOEVER.

I think that I know the true identity of Vocal Ass Chic.

yeh, im scotty too hotty :D:D:D:lol:

Perhaps. I just hope you were never a Hogan fan.

as opposed to austin.... lou thesz press, mudhole stomping, finger flicking, punch, punch, stunner, pin.

if it aint broke, dont fix it

I was thinking John Cena.

Lol, just hush. You are talking shit.

No, seriously. It wouldn't matter if he were the US champion or the fucking Cruiserweight champion. His moveset would be the same. I don't see why you think it would be any different. You say because he uses the same moves to win all the time? Guess what? THAT'S BEEN A TRADITION IN WRESTLING FOR A BILLION YEARS NOW. Finishing moves are not a new concept.

Why do I hate Cena? Well it's not that I hate him. It's just that he got so boring that I couldn't stand him being the champ anymore. Now lately without the belt he has got entertaining again, i'm not denying that. But I think he got the belt too soon, thats what pissed me off the most. Also, they changed his gimmick, which was where he started going downhill. I've noticed they've been resorting back to his old gimmick recently though, as he's putting more aggression in his promos. I bet that aggression goes once he gets the title back.

And the reason we hate kids/ girls cheering for him is because they cheer anybody that is shoved down our throats.

thats right he needs more INNOVATION.

I know the true identity of Afterlife.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Tommy Dreamer

Is it even his decision? I know the WWE is notorious for controlling move sets.

ur right, its a real MAKE or BREAK situation for cena right now

Oh Jesus

thats why a talented nova is simon dean then? yeh cena might have more say in what he does, so thats perhaps a bad example, as he is a bgger star.

put urself in vinces shoes, would u let cena change his way if he was the no 1 draw and merchandise seller? or put urself in cena's, wud you jeopardise ur position and risk getting in the dog house when you've got nothing to gain, but everyfin to lose?

I"m afraid I don't follow your comment about Nova.

But in regards to Cena, I'm not talking about him changing his character or getting a new gimmick. I"m saying, why not replace that fisherman suplex with a 99 Crusher once every 3 months? How about switching out the Spinout Powerbomb with simple German Suplex? Hell, I haven't even seen a Throwback in ages.

It doesn't take much to spice things up. His promos are getting better -- probably because he's writing them again -- and he's much more relatable since he's having trouble getting the belt back. But his in-ring is still the same old shtick.

Fuck John Cena, seriously. Fuck him.

VAC would love to, I'm sure.

In all fairness, he just did a Throwback on Monday.

:o My bad.



But you get my point...?

i am saying that the wwe doesnt always let wrestlers be themselves. they are packaged for what they think is the good of the product. they havent given nova a chance when we all know he's amazzzzzing! :cool:

its not as easy as cena turning round and saying 'hey, i wanna be me now" bcos he cant.

yeh, why not... it never hurt anyone to break out a speciality every now n agen...

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then id sell my story to the papers.

Which, in turn, would completely expose Cena as the faggot that he is, and because of how ignorant Americans are, would destroy his career, he would be fired, and that would be the end of him.

So please, go and do it. It would destroy Cena.

gayness = real reason Kanyon was released

I love how VAC just ignored my view on Cena. Can't handle the fact that some of us find him boring then?

Fuck you.

You think I'm happy about that, what with being American?

I'm talking the pricks who see two men kissing and call for a burning at the steak. Now, I don't know if you fall into that category or not, so...

Then why didn't you say that instead of "Americans"?

u can find him boring all u want. but do us a favor, nxt time turn off the tv instead of sitting thru it just so u can come on the internet later n complain.

i switch off the highlanders when they come on. its simple. :rant:

i'm glad im canadian

Because it was easier to lump it into "Americans" because believe me, more people here are sheep than not.

In all fairness, Brock didn't leap at all out of his relam with the Shooting Star Press. He used to do them ALL the time, no problem. What went wrong in that particular match was that he was just pretty much blown out from wrestling Angle for all that time. The match was supposed to finish with the SSP, but Brock was just simply too tired to hit it. Angle sensed something was wrong and moved.

But yeah, Brock was pretty good at the SSP.

jeez, take the joke in the context. get off your soap-box and take the stik out your ass!

really? bcos i've seen him do the swanton and his ddt-neckbreaker-combo all the time as simon dean

out of his relm...?

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What do you think I do? Ofcourse I turn over if something boring happens. But you know what? I'm still going to complain about having to turn the channel. I want to be able to watch it all the way through like i could back in the day, and if im not being entertained like that then I have a right to complain about shit entertainment.

If one of the highlanders got a John Cena push you would be marking out for them to, I bet.

ha ha, afterlife is getting owned by rockgurl!

That's basically what happened to the Spirit Squad.

So VAC, are you a SS fan?

Is that who it is? Haha.

I bet its really sadistic, or vermaat.

Jesus Christ, why are you wasting time arguing with a sock?

The Spirit Squad is much more talented than The Highlanders.

whatever generation, whatever time, whatever fed, they will always be a john cena-typed person getting a push (which you think) he doesnt deserve. its part of wrestling so ur complaining is futile bcos it will always happen. in this instance, its cena.

I think the word you're looking for is fickle. and no, i am not

It doesn't mean they deserve the push they had, which has seemed to disappeared now, thank God.