*tna big announcement spoilers*
 

TNA 11/16 goes primetime with a two hour timeslot

AND ANGLE IS JOINING TNA!!!!

Kurt FUCKING Angle's going to TNA, fuck the timeslot, THAT'S news.

LOL, PWInsider crashed...

holy shit! I just read that... whoa!

Holy shit

Well, I see two things out of this.

One, Angle SHOULDN'T be wrestling, he SHOULD be healing.

Two, I am now going to watch TNA every week because of Kurt Fucking Angle.

This is a joke, right? This has to be bullshit?

http://www.tnawrestling.com/images/a.../splash_01.gif

http://www.tnawrestling.com/

check the official spoilers..

TNA just became WWE's Competition in my book. And all it took was the best wrestler of all time. Kurt Angle.

I hate the fact Angle is going to be assciated with TNA. I really do.

ANGLE WILL DESTROY THE WWE!!!!!!!!! WOOT!

Good for them though.

That is fucking awesome. :drool:

I was just about to post that

Holy shit...

Have him work matches sparringly. Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe at one PPV, Angle vs. Petey Williams at another, Angle vs. Christian at another. Oh fuck it, there are too many matches. Just give the bastard pain killers, sack loads of money for his wife and kids, and push him to the limits. I don't want to sound like an asshole, but Kurt Angle in TNA is something too entertaining for me to pass up.

OHMYGOD

Well I'll eat my words here. This was a rather big announcement. Kudos to TNA.

Prolly still won't watch.

OMFG WAHOOOO!!!!!! This is the biggest news for TNA EVER, I am totally marking out right now, this is amazing!

Man, I am actually hyped for this! First time, in a long time...

What a glorious day. This shall change the industry.

They need to have Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship at Bound For Glory. That is their money match. Get it out of the way now, while it is hot. Build it up too much and you risk the chance of it never happening. Go for gold, Dixie!

FUCKING ANGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll admit i was fucking marking out when that video aired

HOLY FREAKING CRAP! TWO AWESOME THINGS!

I say give angle a couple of months before he actually wrestles. If he's going to wrestle, TNA is good place to do it. Their schedule isn't anywhere close to the WWE's.

Plus a two hour prime time spot is fucking sweet.









Maybe we can get Christian vs Angle feud.

This should cement Christian as a mid carder...

Agreed. I'm sick to my stomach.

Oh man, wrestling sites are crashing. TNA cannot fuck this up. Kurt Angle needs to be on every show, and when he's not on the show, everyone needs to be asking "Where's Angle?. Seriously, Kurt for fucking NWA Champ.

man the wrestling forum got busy real fast

You do realize where this could lead....

AJ styles V. Angle
Sting V. ANGLE

oh man wow!
maybe even

Bret Hart V. ANGLE!

It would be awesome if Christian cut a promo about how Angle was fired by the WWE and didn't leave like he did, and how Christian should be their saviour. I think getting over their "non-WWE" guys is the way to go. Maybe with Angle making the promotion even more legit, we'll some guys like Lesnar consider going there. Even Chris fucking Jericho.

Angle/Joe, Angle/Styles, Angle/Daniels, Angle/Rhyno, Angle/Abyss, Angle/Christian, Angle/Jarett, Angle/Raven, Angle/Senshi... oh man TNA is certainly on track now.

That's a fuckin sweet graphic.

What will WWE do to counter this?

THE WRESTLING WARS HAVE BEGUN AGAIN!!!

This may have actually killed WWE. Forget the fact that they've lost him, now he's working for their only competitor. Arguably the biggest name in the industry today, and the WWE lost him to their competitor.

IF TNA doesn't fuck this up, there will be another war by this time next year.

I was hoping to was going to be Jericho...

But Angle is good. I wonder if he'll wrestle at Bound for Glory? And if so against who? The best match would be him versus Christian Cage

it beats him going to pride fighting tna is the best thing for him he only has to work once or twice a month.

I love having wrestling everynight except wednsday! when will the humpday show come?

HOOOOLLLLY SHIT!!!

Gotta Tivo TNA now.

...............And with one wrestler, TNA has become the threat the WWE never wanted it to be.

I'm not making any war claims or anything, but I sure as fuck won't forget to watch TNA anymore.

Angle REALLY should have taken at least until next year (probably until around May) off to heal, this could be a huge mistake on his part.

TNA, though, did the right thing and picked him up. It's the only way to really show the WWE that they're ready to fuck them up.

Kurt's gonna fuck them up!

That I have to agree with. Now the real question is: how long until Angle starts jobbing to Double J?

Bound For Glory Card:
-Samoa Joe vs. Kurt Angle for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship

-Jeff Jarrett vs. Sting (If Sting loses he retires)

-AJ Styles & Christopher Daniels vs. The Naturals vs. The LAX vs. Team 3D
vs. America's Most Wanted The James Gang for the NWA World Tag Team Championship in a Tag Team Elimination Match

-Senshi vs. Jay Lethal for the TNA X-Division Championship

-Christian Cage vs. Rhino (In Rhino's hometown)

How is that alone not the best card ever? Throw in a Petey vs. Sabin match, Shelley vs. Starr and colour commentary from Bobby Heenan or Kevin Nash instead of Don West, and you have the greatest PPV of all time.

Thank you, Kurt. You've done what everyone like me been trying to do for years. Change the wrestling industry for the better.

So how long until Kurt Angle is pinned or made to submit by Jeff Jarrett?

i say angle will not be in any real matches for 5 or 6 months he may do run ins and tag matches.

:D

That would be so ridiculous.

What's todays date?

this day will go down in wrestling history forever.

What I don't get is how he got around the 90 day no compete clause. It can't be more than 30 days now, so if he had the clause, which I assume he did, he can't even show up on TV until November.

I think TNA and Angle have some lawsuits coming their way.

if not it's pretty much proiof that TNA is A vince supported product

No compete doesn't mean he cant be on their shows, he just can't wrestle.

In all the reports about Angle's release, nobody seemed to know what the terms were regarding a no compete clause in Kurt Angle's contract. It could well be that per the terms of the release, Kurt had no no compete clause or that the way he was released nullified it.

Kinda beat ya to it...

I seriously hope TNA helps him heal up at least a bit before doing anything strenuous with him.

I just read the news here.

I'm gonna be sick.

I'm pretty sure they cover TV time as well, otherwise ANYONE from WWE could go straight to TNA, just not wrestle. WWE went apeshit for Lesnar just APPEARING in Japan, I can't see them not doing anything unless he didn't have the clause.

And I rewarded you with a green dot. :p

Welcome to the Shadow Conspiracy.

:D

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that they can't even ANNOUNCE him coming in, although I could be mistaken about that.

The WWE would like the biggest "heels" in the business if they did that. It plays right into TNA's hands. The WWE gives them more attention, and it's something that can get WWE vs. TNA going. That's not what the WWE wants. Don't give me "that's not what TNA wants", because they need to compete with the WWE. It's the only way anyone will ever take them seriously.

Oh, and the WWE delays Angle 90 days, he is less likely to injure himself, which (and this is going to sound cruel) is a bad business move. Angle fucks up his neck next week, that's it. Fans build up anticipation for 90 days, TNA has time to market it all, and make shit loads of cash. If Angle's an enemy, better to let him get back into the ring sooner.

TNA might use the 90 day clause as an excuse to let Angle rest. Jim Cornette comes out, says Angle can't wrestle until *insert date here*, and we get insane build-up to Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe. Oh fuck that would be huge.

As far as the two hour thing goes, it's only for that one episode, then it goes back to one hour but in primetime (8PM)...

The 11/16 edition of TNA Impact will be a two hour show, with Impact returning to a one hour series after their debut on Thursdays at 9 PM.

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=20494&p=1

Then why didn't a guy like Matt Hardy go STRAIGHT to TNA? "90 day no compete clause? Fuck that. If the WWE sues, they'll look like 'heels' and draw attention to TNA. They don't want that."

KURT FREAKING ANGLE!


This is surreal. On one hand, I'm fucking marking out like a schoolgirl and on the other hand, I'm pissed off at Angle for not taking at least a year off to rest off.

Yeah, it's probably anything that can lead to profits. So saying "Kurt Angle is going to be in TNA" within the clause is still marketting his name and professional abilities.

So it seems Angle doesn't have anything attached to him.

Is Joe the champ or something?


Also, Angle may not even have a no compete clause. Does anyone know when he signed his last contract? Also being fired might wave the clause. Just throwing out ideas really.

I'm not disputing anything about his wrestling there, I'm just wondering how he can even be on TV, in a live or taped segment, if the clause was in place.

And do you honestly think the WWE WON'T go after them if this were the case? Hell, if he DID breach the contract with the promo, they can probably stop him from appearing on TNA at least until they settle.

Damnit, where's JamesSteele when you need one of his Angle spammages?

lol yeah, didn't Joe win the belt tonight?

It was non-title.

Even I know that, and I haven't watched TNA for weeks.

Matt Hardy is not Kurt Angle. If people see Matt Hardy in TNA, they'll go "who". Vince does not want to give TNA any attention they don't need. The WWE hiding behind contracts is going to lose them their "WOOO! WWE is so awesome!" fanbase, like Vermaat. They really don't want to lose those fans. They're the ones stupid enough to buy PPVs.

And I made it apparent Angle probably doesn't have a no-compete clause. But if he did, I wouldn't be scared if I were Angle.

Alienoid threw me off with his Joe/Angle NWA title hype.

TNA WRESTLING MAKES TWO MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS
Signs Kurt Angle
iMPACT! Moves To 9 PM on Spike TV Starting Thursday, November 16


Nashville, TN, September 24, 2006 – Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling announced today that Olympic gold medalist and pro wrestling megastar Kurt Angle has signed exclusively with the company. It was also announced that TNA iMPACT! will move to 9:00 PM ET/PT Thursdays on Spike TV starting November 16.

“This has been a huge week in our company’s history,” said Dixie Carter, president of TNA Entertainment, LLC. “The signing of Kurt Angle and the move of iMPACT! to 9 PM are both significant benchmarks in the growth of TNA. The history of pro wrestling is marked with events that change the landscape of the industry and I believe that this week will be viewed in that context.”

Angle, a 2-time NCAA Division I champion and a 3-time NCAA Division I All-American, capped off his illustrious amateur career by winning a gold medal in freestyle wrestling at the 1996 Olympics, competing with two cracked vertebrae, two herniated disks and four pulled muscles.

On November 14, 1999, Angle made his on-screen debut with the World Wrestling Federation. Since then, this 5-time WWE World Champion has held every major championship belt in WWF/E. He was inducted into the National Wrestling Hall of Fame in 2003.

“Kurt is considered the greatest wrestler in professional wrestling,” added Carter. “His in-ring ability is matched only by his leadership and attitude. We are thrilled Kurt is joining the TNA family and we look forward to a long, successful relationship.”

“Being with TNA feels like I found my home,” Kurt Angle commented. “TNA will be the most watched show on cable TV – it’s just a matter of time. Thank you TNA for saving my career, my life and my desire to do what I love.”

TNA also announced it will premiere in primetime on Spike TV starting Thursday, November 16, kicking-off with a two-hour extravaganza from 9:00 – 11:00 PM, ET/PT to celebrate the move. The following Thursday, TNA can be seen in its regularly scheduled timeslot (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT), with encores continuing to telecast on Saturdays (11:00 PM – Midnight, ET/PT).

“We’ve been impressed by TNA’s growth and the acquisition of Kurt Angle today continues to show us that wrestling fans, as well as professional wrestlers, know that TNA is the place to be and now primetime on Spike TV is the place for them to be,” says Kevin Kay, General Manager of Spike TV.

After twenty telecasts in the Thursday 11 PM ET/PT time slot, TNA iMPACT! is averaging a 1.0 HH rating, with a 1.1 in M18-49, a 1.3 in M18-34 and an average audience of 1.1 million viewers. Compared to YAGO in that timeslot, TNA is up +137% in HH, +211% in M18-49, +244% in M18-34 and +157% in average audience. Among ad-supported cable channels in the time period (11:00 PM – Midnight, ET/PT), Spike ranks #1 in M18-49, #1 in M25-34, and #2 in M18-34. (All ratings reflect Most Current viewing levels)

The new wrestling alternative, TNA delivers a distinct brand of high-risk, athletic entertainment. TNA’s roster includes new, fresh talent like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Monty Brown and recognizable stars such as Sting, Christian Cage, Jeff Jarrett, Team 3D, and others. TNA features the innovative six-sided ring and the high-flying “X Division,” as well as concept matches such as “Ultimate X,” “King of the Mountain,” and “Six Sides of Steel.”

TNA Entertainment, LLC is a privately held company headquartered in Nashville, TN. The names of all Total Nonstop Action Wrestling televised programming, talent names, images, likenesses, slogans and all TNA Wrestling logos and trademarks are exclusive property of TNA Entertainment, LLC. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. For more information, visit www.tnawrestling.com.

Spike TV is available in 90 million homes and is a division of MTV Networks. MTV Networks, a division of Viacom International Inc.

:o

I really don't think he has a clause. I doubt TNA would risk it, and would just have him rest if this were the case. But yeah, there are probably ways around such things, as thorough as the WWE is. Being Kurt fucking Angle, the biggest star in professional wrestling today helps.

Sorry, Joe is not the Champ. He should be, though. Why the fuck does Jarrett still have the belt?

At the time Matt Hardy was released from the WWE, the "You screwed Matt!" chants were overwhelming. Hell, so much so that they were what yielded Matt his job back in the WWE. The situation would've drawn the exact same kind of attention to TNA had Matt decided to breach his contract and the WWE decided to pursue legal remedy.

As far as I am concerned, they NEED to do Joe vs. Angle for the NWA Championship at Bound For Glory.

Because he's Jeff Jarrett. In character, Jim Cornette claimed that because if Jeff Jarrett lost the title to Samoa Joe, that wouldn't be fair to Sting.

I don't know about "exact same" hype giving Kurts status in and out of wrestling, but your point remains valid Pep.

Yeah, I agree, maybe have Joe beat Jarrett on Impact so then at Bound for Glory

NWA World Heavyweight Title Match
Joe v.s Angle

-I Quit Match-
Jarrett v.s Sting

... that would work out nicley?

So next month angle v. joe

then angle v. sting or jarret?

we got some good matches to look forward to.

The exact same that matters. No one that would be reached just because of Kurt's Olympian status would take pro wrestling seriously enough to care about TNA anyway, you know what I mean?

I am a huge Matt Hardy mark, but Angle >>>>>> Hardy. Sorry, Matt.

And I really doubt he has a no-complete cause. I doubt he would violate. I'm just saying, the WWE is more likely to make a big fuss about a smaller guy than a huge one like Angle. Kurt's the last real "big" wrestler besides Triple H and The Undertaker. They're going to try and hope TNA fucks it up, because if they don't, and Vince points them out, say goodbye to the WWE's fanbase.

I don't think Angle is gonna debut until they go Prime time. Don't know for though.

However this announcement did live up the hype.

So who's ordering the replay? I just did.

"Olympic Gold Medalist being sued by former employer" is more likely to make headlines than "Man screwed, first his girlfriend, now his job," you know what I mean?

Angle shouldn't work against the top names first, I don't think, at least not RIGHT off. Have Angle come in and want Jarrett/the NWA Title...but have Jarrett refuse (and somehow in the storyline, justify him being able to do this) to wrestle against Angle, until Angle "proves he's even worthy of wrestling in the same ring" as he is (yes, I know how ridiculous that sounds, but not only is this pro wrestling, but Jeff Jarrett is a heel). Jarrett then suckers Eric Young into taking a PPV match with Angle, telling him how great of a match it would be, and how it would make TNA money, which is what Jim Cornette told him he has to do to avoid being fired.

How would he be sued?

Breach of contract

See, not really on the WWE being more likely to make a big fuss about a smaller guy than a huge one. A huge guy is someone that could legitimately do them damage, and taking it to court would honestly be a power play by the WWE. How much money do Dixie Carter and Panda Energy REALLY want to invest in legal fees brought on by them breaking contracts?

I DO doubt he has the clause.

Anytime Angle wrestles it's worth watching, so if he's on everyweek in some function... I'll watch every week.

That would actually be awesome. Angle needs to focus more on wrestling guys that are seen as jokes by a lot of fans. Alex Shelley for example. Angle vs. Shelley is potentially jizz quality, so let it happen. Imagine what the WWE would be like if Kurt Angle wrestled Paul London on SmackDown!. That is what TNA has a chance to do with their roster. Make it legit by sticking it in the ring with Angle.

Obviously, but like I said, within the confines of the wrestling world, the focus would be the same, and the people that care about legit sports aren't likely to be the type of people that would tune into TNA wrestling just to see Kurt Angle.

I suppose I'm the only one that actually wants to see Jarrett versus Sting in the main event.

What am I talking about "suppose" I know I'm the only one.

Meltzer talked about this tongith on his radio show. Angle could be pulling a Raven.

Now see If Angle is getting by the WWE then Angle can't work for TNA, but see if Angle waives his money and just says "Vince don't pay me I'm going to to TNA" then it's legal.

That's my understanding of it, and btw Meltz was talking about this Hypothically he had no idea what the surprise was.

Oh no, definitely not. But that was never what I was getting at, I'm just saying there would be a bigger fuss over this than Matt hardy, when you said it would be the EXACT same impact. I disagree, going after Kurt is a MUCH bigger deal.

Yeah, I know what you mean, and it would be very ballsy for TNA to take on the WWE in court.

I think what it really would boil down to (assuming that Angle actually does have a clause, which is unlikely) is how much Angle hates the WWE, and how much the WWE really fears Angle. If the WWE took Angle to court, it is more likely to boost TNA in the public eye than make it less credible (which the no-compete clause is designed to do, isn't it?). So for that reason, and that reason alone, I can see the WWE just shrugging and going on pretending TNA doesn't exist. They shouldn't try shoving them anymore, because TNA now has some heavy firepower.

I want to hear the crowd reaction on Monday night, see what it's like. There better be at least one "WWE now fears TNA" or "WWE fears Angle" sign.

Which I grant; just wanted to point the rest of that out for those that wouldn't think about that/understand that right off (you seemed to understand right when you first pointed that out and corrected me).

It'll be confiscated.

That actually makes sense. Don't guys get paid their no-complete cause? If Angle refuses to get paid, then he may be able to skip the 90 days.