I'm going to laugh when Kurt Angle kills himself
 

No, but seriously you guys are ridiculous. Months ago when Kurt's pain addiction problem surface, everyone was like "OMG DON'T KILL YOURSELF, TAKE A BREAK, SLOW DOWN, etc."

When Kurt was released from his WWE contract, there was mixed feelings because people didn't want to see him leave yet people were glad he got a chance to rest and get his head on straight.

Now that he has signed with TNA, everyone is going apeshit saying how Angle is going to save TNA. How WWE now has competition and all of this other crap. Instead of saying that Angle is going to save TNA, you should be saying "TNA should save Angle." And if anyone here actually cares about Kurt as a human, they should not be so happy about him signing with TNA. Why? Well here are some facts and fictions about this TNA deal.

Facts:

No Limits: TNA doesn't have restrictions on their wrestling like WWE does. So what will Angle do? He will kick himself into overdrive. He will fall apart even more = more injuries = more painkillers = obiturary notice. I bet you guys will be marking out again then, right? Since people were so orgasmic over Angle's debut, that will make Angle work extra hard.

Too Much Self Pride: That's Kurt in a nutshell. Almost like Hulk Hogan in a way (yes, I'm comparing Angle to Hogan), Hogan doesn't know when to quit. Angle, doesn't know when to quit. Angle wants to be the best. Hogan wants to go over the best. Different? Yes, but the same in the light of things. Hogan keeps coming back because the casual fans mark out for him. Angle works his ass off way too much because the internet fans mark out for him. At that rate Angle will die before Hogan. And it's because of US Angle will die before Hogan. TNA PRESENTS: KURT ANGLE'S PUBLIC SUICIDE, LIVE ON PPV!

History: If Kurt wins the NWA World Title, he would be marking history. How many others have won the WWE, WCW, and NWA World Titles? Ric Flair is the only guy you can really think of. Do you think Kurt knows this and that's what's driving him in TNA?

Fiction:

Less Of A Schedule = More Rest: Just because he would be working less of a schedule doesn't mean he will suddenly heal like Wolverine. If Angle's condition is bad enough that the WWE RELEASED HIM, then it's way more serious than just a few months of rest. And by now I would think you guys know that Angle works way to hard and hates being away from wrestling. So what will he do? He'll probably work for ROH, too. And much like TNA, they have no limits to how they wrestle. Way to go Kurt, you killed yourself in front of 500 fans wrestling Nigel Mcguiness (no knock on Nigel, but come on).

Kurt Won't Save TNA: If he was never able to be a major draw in WWE (come on the ratings were never really high when he was champ). Will he help out in short term? Yeah, people will tune in for morbid curiosity, doesn't mean he will draw them so much money that they can suddenly start touring all over the country and draw thousands of people. Not even Kurt Fucking Angle, yes he may be one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. However, he can't turn crap television into gold. If so, the WWE wouldn't be having low PPV buyrates the last 4-5 years.

So really are you really that happy to see Kurt wrestle that you are willing to watch him die? I mean if you want to watch Kurt wrestle, buy some DVDs with matches of him on it or download them.

On Kurt's part, I believe it's the fucking stupidest thing he could have done short of going to UFC. He's killing himself.

On TNA's part, it was an EXTREMELY smart move and will boost them a bit.

It's a double edged sword.

Hmmmm...how sharp is both swords though?

Get a month or so boost in ratings?
Kill Kurt Angle?

I dunno...human life is more important than a temp. spike in ratings.

It was smart for TNA from a business perspective. For Kurt it was not. I wish he would rest, but no one can force him to. WWE tried and did what they felt they needed to do to give him a wake up call of sorts, but he didn't listen. I hope he'll be okay, as it is true that TNA has no limits on their wrestling style.

When it comes to a company trying to beat out their competitor, which is what TNA is doing, they'll step on anyone and anything to get there.

Human life vs. business can be skewed at times.

It's not like they're directly killing him, though, as much as they're letting him take elevated risks. I mean, are they going to put him in a sword fight against Abyss or something?

Go Kurt!

That is a good point. Plus, even if he does give them an initial spike it ratings, what good will it do if he injures himself in a month and can't wrestle anymore.

Now that would be ratings.

Really any strain on Kurt's neck can be killer. I seriously hope that Joe doesn't even try a Muscle Buster on him, it could really fuck him up.

I'm sooo watching TNA now. Thx Xero

This is a fucking amazing thread. I like talking about future wrestler deaths alot better then past wrestler deaths.

To be fair, working two days a month =/= more injuries, whether he's pushing himself more or not. That guy was on the road HOW much?

Now, I'll be happy to say that this is still stupid of Kurt, but whatever. I think I've already said in the past that TNA would mean a lesser work Schedule for Angle, which would benefit his health, and I stand by it. Ideally, he'd work "never," but he won't do that, and I'm not going to stop stupid people from killing themselves.

A number of these bumps and the strain they put on ANYONE'S neck COULD be killer. Like I said, Angle does have an elevated risk, but it's not like everyone else that steps into a wrestling ring is magically immune from suffering serious injury or even death.

Oh hell yeah. I want to see Kurt's head snap RIGHT THE FUCK OFF. That would be quality fucking television.:y:

Nor should TNA feel obligated to do so.

I wont laugh if Kurt Angle dies because of this, but a big part of me wont be amazingly sympathetic.

That would make Joe the ultimate heel.

Especially if following that, he started wearing Kurt Angle's gold medal to the ring, covered in Kurt's blood from the match.

Nah they wouldnt let Kurt wear that medal in the ring. He it might injure someone.

Nah, he should start wearing Kurt's spine around his neck.

:roll: OBVIOUSLY it wouldn't be worn inside the ring for the duration of the match, but that doesn't mean he can't bring it to the ring with him.

Even better.

the spine or the medal?

But see this wouldn't benefit Kurt's health if he is wrestling less in TNA, but wrestling at three times the pace he did in the WWE. And knowing Kurt he will want to wrestle all the time, so he will probably take bookings in ROH.

I just feel like we're all dirty for supporting this. It's like us supporting Eddie Guerrero while he was wrestling while addicted to painkillers. Kurt will die while in TNA and then you'll see AJ Styles dedicating everything he does to Kurt. And then Eric Angle will come back a feud with Styles and then Kurt's ex wife will come out and side with Eric.

And he should beat people with it.

West: OHMIGAWD MIKE HE'S BEATING DANIELS WITH KURT'S SPINE!

Or think about the promos he could do.

"I would challenge Kurt to a match, but I heard he's spineless."

Nope. And while I'd like to see a kinder, gentler business, the fact is, even if they don't stop Kurt, they're still leaps and bounds better than WWE.

See, that much, I'm not so sure of. I kinda side with KaneKnight on this issue. You have a very valid point when it comes to Kurt working ROH, TNA house shows, etc., etc., etc.

All in all, we all know and it is well documented that Kurt will stop at nothing to be the best. WWE releasing him was a really, really stupid move. What was better, dealing with Angle's whinning and crying, but keeping him on a short leash, or releasing him to the wolves (NJPW, UFC, PRIDE) and letting him kill himself so that you can claim no responsibility for his death. I think that the no limits bullshit you guys are worried about is a joke. When was the last time Cage, or Jarrett had an X division style match for the belt. TNA heavyweight matches are no worse than WWE. I think working 2 a month is better that 280 days a year in WWE.

See, that much, I'm not so sure of. I kinda side with KaneKnight on this issue. You have a very valid point when it comes to Kurt working ROH, TNA house shows, etc., etc., etc.

See, that much, I'm not so sure of. I kinda side with KaneKnight on this issue. You have a very valid point when it comes to Kurt working ROH, TNA house shows, etc., etc., etc.

Whoops. Sorry for the now TRIPLE post. :o

He signed with TNA?! Geez, the guy really doesn't learn.

It's sad, really, but if this is what he really wants to do, you can't fault him. At this rate, though, I DO expect Angle to either kill himself or cripple himself.

I think I mentioned in a previous thread that if the WWE was really concerned about his health, they wouldn't have released him, just suspended him or something.

This is ass-covering, pure and simple, but I still think TNA's probably safer than he could be doing. Besides, it's really his call, stupid though his decision seems to be.

I was thinking along the lines of wearing his pelvic bone as bling.

So you're saying Joe would snap his neck off, grab his medals and dip them into Kurts torso?

It could work. The ratings would be worth the purchase of all the life insurance plans. I'd probably pull the trigger on that storyline.

I am curious as to why Kurt was really released. Like KK said, they would have suspended him if they wanted him to take time off to heal himself.

I think WWE honestly thought that there was nothing else Kurt could do but sit at home and sulk, that it was WWE or nothing. I believe they're that jaded/full of themselves.

I can appreciate that you're a huge Angle mark yet it's hilarious that you're chastizing everyone here for being happy about Angle being in TNA. To the best of my knowledge no one on the TPWW forums are Angle's parents, or Angle himself. He's a grown man. He's doing this to himself. If he wants to die doing what he loves it's beyond our control.

What he does is his own business, yes. But I don't think people should be thrilled that he is doing this to himself. Why don't we all just set up a "Kurt Angle Painkiller" Fund so we can help support his painkiller addiction so he won't have to feel his neck snapping.

I'd rather not see Kurt Angle ever again than to watch him die in the ring.

Call me nutty, but that's how I feel.

lol RP

Tbh I think he's gonna Shannon Moore TNA anyway.

STEVE!

I agree completely with KoOS. As much of a Kurt Angle mark I am, he is really making the most idiotic decision he has ever made. He needs months, hell even years to heal from the kind of injuries he has. And with the way Kurt is, he'll always go out there at 100%, which he can't do to survive. I will not be watching TNA, cus I don't want to see happen, what is gonna eventually happen. Which is Angle in a wheelchair, or dead.

QUESTION: has the WWE commented on Angle signing with TNA?

Here's what I think happened. the WWE figured that they would show a softer side, a more caring WWE if you will, and let Kurt Angle GO. They figured he loves them so much that he would heal and then come back at a later stage.

He pulled a "the game" on them : FUCK EM, COMPTON!

His no compete clause supposedly gives him a 5 months rest - which i hope is enough to wane him off pills and get his shit together..or atleast to a point we can call normal.

IF he dies in a TNA - it would be a morbid boost for TNA in the ratings for a week or 2 but after that no one would wanna work for them.

TNA better not fuck this up ,they went "all in" with Angle .. I hope they got the cards to back it up.

This is actually very exciting. I'm not a big fan of tna and can't really watch it, though I realize they have a lot of talent an potential. I guess I'm just a loyal/blind WWE guy, but that won't change. I was happy when I saw WCW lose the monday night war, but with the way a lot of things have gone in WWE since 2001 (attitude era stars dominating top spots, fresh talent getting held down until just recently, blown execution of dream storylines like the invasion and nwo angle)
I've been praying for compettition to bring out the best in eachother and their wrestlers. I think this step is big for TNA to compete. I feel that they need to improve their image a bit however. I dont really mind the 6 sided ring I suppose. But I think they should look into making things a little better like the entrance, logos and graphics, title belts and such. I know this has nothing to do with in ring talent or quality of the actual wrestling product but I think it helps for a better TV show and a more believable organization. If they can succeed in primetime and perhaps acquire past names and push new ones, things could get very interesting on Monday nights again.

Kurt Angle is not gonna die in a wrestling ring.

He is such a fucking legend that he would crawl with every last ounce of strength in his body to the back to die out of the public eye if it were ever close to happening.

Probably not, but he's going to break his neck in TNA. I don't when or how, but if he stays in TNA long enough he's going to break it in the ring.

Before that I bet he'll have more than one stinger as well.

He broke it 3 times already. Plus he is a grown man who can make his own choices.

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Why's everybody acting like they know his health? Seriously, the guy feels he can go, let him go. We know nothing of his health other than what's been told to us. I still think there are other reasons to him being let go. The guy probably does have health issues but to cry "he's going to break his neck in TNA" is bullshit. How can you honestly say "yup, he's going to die while working for them" when you know dickall of the situation? Had he come back to WWE you would be saying "great to see him back, wow, he's a quick healer."

You guys act like you know him personally. Only Kurt knows how he really feels. Get over it. If Angle feels he can come in and compete in a TNA ring then he will. You guys sound like his over protective mother for fuck sakes. Get a life.

RIP Kurt Angle

if he doesnt die, he'll be paralized soon enough

Yeah all this whining over Kurt's health is pretty damn annoying, shut up now.

Kurt Angle will die a painful death

ANd KoOs will laugh at him

And me and RP will have a Kurt Angle Death Celebration on his behalf.

In fact I stole the Boogeyman's clock since he won't be needing it anymore and I'm going to make it into the official "Kurt Angle Death Clock."

i'd like to join your stable and subscribe to your newsletter

In order for you to join, you need a 5000 word essay on your favorite wrestling death and then paint me a picture showing me how you think Angle will die.

man fuck that, I'm too lazy right now. COMPTON

punk ass bitch don't deserve a spot. G-UNIT

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UNIT!

The "G" is for Gangsta.

The could be the squel to "V for Vendetta"

"G For Gangsta"

what's the plot outline?

Actually other people know now how bad Kurt is for the simple reason that he was fired due to the WWE wellness policy. That same policy gives a "3 strikes and you're out" rule and that was Kurt's 3rd time failing a test. If he is continously failing drug tests for enough painkillers to knock out an elephant then he must be hurting.

Angle is definately one of the best 3 wrestlers over the last 5 years and I don't wanna see him hurt. However, he is a grown man. People can only offer advise for so long and it's clear Angle isn't going to accept it so good luck to him. This isn't a Brian Pillman like issue. People have tried to help Angle. Nobody helped Pillman.

Yeah, if he wants to kill himself with wrestling despite intervention, let him.

I don't know how bad Kurt Angle is. There are all these rumours about how he can't turn the shower on hard, or else he'll crumble apart. I think a lot about Angle's health is exaggerated. The guy has broken his neck, yes, but so has Edge, and he did a fucking flip off a ladder through two tables.

If Angle takes some time to rest, to get rid of his minor injuries, he could be like Shawn Michaels, and make a complete career revival. Sure, he'll always be at risk, but so is David fucking Young.

I can appreciate the concern there is for Angle, and if he decided to retire tomorrow, I would not fault him for it, but I am not going to criticise the man for entertaining me. As long as the guy is having great matches, he fulfills his duty to me. If TNA, Kurt Angle and those close enough to Angle to know the facts in their entirety are OK with him competing, I'm all for it.

lol

you guys are ridic

Just a curiosity question...

Isnt medical insurance required in America? And if so dont you think TNA would shy away if he was bad enough no company would insure him?

It just always struck me in a profession like Wrestling Medical insurance would be some kind of pre requisite for a company to even get access to an arena for fair of bad press like you would get from an in ring death.

But moving right along, from what I hear he lost his wife (or lost and regained), he lost his kid, he has lost pretty much everything most people value more than money, maybe he accepts the risk, maybe he even knows he will die but maybe he also wants to die doing what he loves?

Selfish of him when it affects so many, yes. But not altogether implausible.

And if there is a chance he may live and go on doing what he loves maybe hes willing to take it. I cant really knock the guy for that.

I think Angle's got a couple injuries up on Edge though.

Edge has also taken time to properly heal his injuries.

No, and since no, then the second part odesn't matter. In the US, you aren't required health insurance, and you're not guaranteed it either.

If that's not a complete Kurt Angle mark, I don't know what is. :p

As for medical insurance, I know it's not required for pro wrestling companies due to the fact that all their employees aren't really "employees" per se; they're independent contractors.

Maybe they'll put him in the Xdivision

Hey, the X Division isn't about weight limits; it's about no limits.:shifty:

They risk Kevin Nash tearing a quad, they may as well risk Kurts head popping off.

I agree its a bad decission for kurt.

I would be cool thought if he won the title while in ECW then won the NWA title so he could say he held every major title ever

Maybe he thinks the money and the schedule is worth the pain. Plus he can still practise his MMA training.

Personally, if I were him, I would have signed with UFC. Could have made over $1 million in one fight with them and not been anywhere near as hurt as 220 days a year in WWE puts on the body. He could have done 3 fights and retired very happily. Oh and UFC is huge exposure and TNA is nothing.

well since ufc and tna have worked togather in the past maby when angle heals up he can go over toufc after helping tna out.

He only has to work 3, maybe 4 times a month in TNA, at least he'll have more time off.





While as bad as I fear for his health, the thought of Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe makes me giddy.

Far out, thats pretty insane really.

I know for instance over here in New Zealand if you cant get medical insurance you cant play any pro sport because if you do Arenas wont hire out to that team or promotion for fear of a sports related death in the arena.

Seems pretty backward for a country where you can sue for anything.

Not a dig or anything jut an observation.

Well, WWE doesn't count as a pro sport. In any case, I've never heard of any such requirement in MLB or the NBA, or whatever.

Well Kurt, you really are an idiot. It's hard for me to have any respect for a man that seems to have thrown away not only his health, but his family all for continuing down a path of destruction. I hope it works out for him, but I'll shed no tears or praise him in eulogy.

If anyone thinks that WWE screwed up by releasing Kurt now that he's gone to TNA, you are wrong. It still was the right decision.

Does that mean YOUR going to change YOUR name to something a little less reminiscent of YOUR former Olympic Hero?

No. The right decision would be to hold him to his contract and order him to check into rehab. They are just as guilty as TNA as he had these problems for years and they didn't nothing. When he rebroke his neck and he got the quick surgery to fix it so he could come back to their ring as soon as humanly possible, I didn't see WWE refuse. They booked him and pushed him when he was in serious pain. I praise them for what they did to help Regal and Eddie Guerrero but it goes both ways.

I in no way blame TNA for jumping on the oppotunity to sign Angle. WWE jumped on Brian Pillman years ago and did nothing to help him either. They also kept Shawn Michaels was he was a wreck. If this was 1998 and someone like Raven, Curt Hennig or Konnan was release due to drug issues, Vince McMahon would sign him in a heartbeat. Infact, they did sign guys with serious drug issues - Sean Waltman and Davey Boy Smith.

:y:

too-shay

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Let's see Kurt win the Title with NO FREAKIN' SPINE!

Somehow, with Kurt, I can not only see it, but hear the promos after it.

You kidding? Not only would he do that, but also become the Futurama Intergalactic champion...

"I won intergalactic gold with only my freakin' head!"