Another Kurt Angle interview(discusses TNA, Daniel Puder, and more)
 

ripped it from NoDq.com

I love Angle

You know, at least if he does kill himself, he'll stop digging a grave with all this bullshit.

Is that a serious statement? I can swallow a lot shit, but not that. Plus, wouldn't doing what's best for the company be best for them? More money and all of that.

I wanted to believe that Angle wasn't going to bitch like everyone else who went to TNA from WWE, but he's proving to be just as bad as the Dudleyz.

Yeah this is really just getting sad now. I've lost quite a bit of respect for Kurt over this last month, and he just seems to be getting worse. But I'd be willing to bet that he will eventually return to WWE and say his words now were just taken out of context.

At this point, I can't wiat for him to rejoin WWE. Because I want him to double back on all the bullshit he's spouting.

No way is TNA's roster better than WWE's full roster. I don't say this to build up WWE, who can't get their act together either, but WWE has a huge assortment of strong atheletes and entertainers that most promotions can only dream of. TNA's got some good guys, but they can't match WWE, even factoring in shitty wrestlers.

Puder was at a car show I attended last weekend and the first words out of his mouth was "You may know me from Tough Enough and the guy that almost broke Kurt Angle's arm..."

I almost died laughing at the fact that no one knew who he was :lol:

Congratulations Kurt, you get roles in shitty movies and TV series.

Who is this Puder guy, anyway?

Angle shouldn't talk since he's a rip-off of Mr. Clean

Okay, exactly what did he say that was bullshit? Because it seems like everytime one of these Kurt Angle interviews gets posted, people on this forum start off with their "lol Kurt Angle is so stupid now, I'm losing so much respect for him, etc, etc," but there's never any valid reason why you don't like him anymore.

Unless it's because you're fanatic WWE marks who can't stand that he's left your precious flagship company for the competition.

I still have as much respect for Kurt as I ever did, but that doesn't mean that he can do no wrong. He's playing the same game that all ex-WWE turned TNA guys play: bitch about WWE on TNA television. And apparently it's his decision to do so since he's allowed to come up with his own promos. I understand if he's upset with WWE, but he needs to leave that alone when it comes to Impact!/PPVs.

I would love to see WWE do a Gillberg_style spoof on Kurt Angle

Burt Angle

lol Angle needs to shut his fat face.

like if it was Stone Cold saying the same stuff as Kurt, it would sound alot cooler

But Kurt Angle just sounds like a whiney penis when he does it

loll he almost had a role in Pearl Harbor?

and here's a response from Puder. credit MMAweekly.com via NoDQ.com.

GO PUDER !!!!FUCK HIM UP!

Ken Patera was 10x's the Olympia Angle was.

:lol:

Well, if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.

That's the real problem. Kurt's being the same bitch the Dudleyz were. Except it really seems less credible from someone so high up.

Go Puder!

LETS GO ANGLE LETS GO
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ANGLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!

I like Angle just fine, but he's acting like a complaining little girl.

So how much drek is Kurt spewing right now? In a legit fight I'm pretty sure Puder would kill Angle.

If Mr. Pain Pills is so goddamn cocky then he needs to put his money where his fucking mouth is and get his ass beat.

:love:

No kidding, but 5 bucks says this will never happen. You think angle is gonna do anything now since he has his way with TNA's contract? He could give 2 shits about anything else now since he has everything he wanted

Why yes, because everyone wants to hold the NWA title for an hour and a half until they job to Jeff Jarrett.

Angle has become completely pathetic, it's sad.

I could care less what he says, all I care is when he gets in the ring and on the mic in TNA he delivers, and he will. That's not to say I don't care if he's healthy - I do, but that's totally his decision and there's nothing anybody can do except accept his decision to compete and enjoy it while we can. As for this anti-WWE stuff, it is petty, but Vince is a lucky idiot, and if some of this crap WERE true, it would not surprise me.

-Kurt said that TNA is not political, Jeff Jarrett is not political, they do what's best for the company not what best for themselves

Sorry Kurt, but you're not going to win over anybody by saying bullshit like this. I doubt even TNA marks will believe that JJ is not political. Something tells me that kurt is either A) Just building up TNA to make them look better than WWE or b) playing political games himself and trying to get on JJ's good side knowing that he's a writer for TNA. Or it could be both, either way, i've lost a bit of respect for him saying that.

Yes. Deliver the same shit about being screwed over by WWE. :y:

Yeah, TNA really needs to stop having all the former WWE wrestlers bitch about WWE in EVERY FUCKING PROMO! It gets annoying...

i never really liked Kurt angle..now I definately dislike him..I dont know about anyone else but I'm already fucken tired of all this talking back and forth..I wish Puder would jump over the railing in TNA and make kurt tap just after he beats joe

Kurt wouldn't tap. Puder'd have to kill him. Which, arguably, is what Kurt wants, it seems.

haha... You're such a homo.

I'm proud of you, son.

Politics is the way wrestling works.

^ No shit, did you work that out all by yourself? What a genius![/sarcasm]

Then why did you "lose a bit of respect for him" after finding out that he MIGHT be playing politics in TNA? And even so, you're basing your loss of respect on an inferred idea from an interview that may not even be true.

So WTF?

I may be wrong, since I missed Impact this week, but as far as I know, he's only made one vague reference on the topic of WWE on TNA programming. He will probably make more, but it doesn't seem to be dominating his promos or anything from what I can tell.

And even if he was criticizing WWE, what's so horrible about that? it may be petty, but it's not like it's the first time one promotion criticized another on the air (Austin in ECW comes to mind), and this is Angle's decision anyway (so he says), not TNA's. It's not like he doesn't have reason to be bitter either, Vince is certainly no saint.

What has he to be bitter over?



Exactly.

Word.

I'm not going to bash Kurt for saying positive things about TNA and negative things about WWE, it's the same old business as it's ever been.
My problems remain still about him not properly taking care of himself. He's not only lying to us, but more importantly to himself, that may = death at some point in his future.

Well, if he was telling the truth in that interview (which I doubt), Vince wasn't giving him enough time off to heal. If it was bullshit, then he was fired (perhaps because WWE didn't want him on their payroll when he wasn't healthy enough to wrestle) That having been said, I wasn't there, I have no idea what it's like working for McMahon, just like I have no idea how much of what Angle says is bullshit. Either way, this is such a small and irrelevant point, I don't see why it even matters as far as Angle the performer goes. If you don't want to hear him blast his former employer, don't read his interviews that aren't on TNA programming (Assuming I was right about how little has he been taking shots at WWE on TNA programming).

So basically, assuming something even you do not believe, he has a right to believe bitter.

I lost respect for him for saying that bullshit about JJ not being political, I mean come on, were not that fucking stupid.

Fox is, show some respect.

Ah right ok, my bad.

Puder is on Meltzer's show right now and he is hilarous.

post a transcript if you can.

It will probably be a few days, but I will post it.

In a fight, Puder more than likely.

However, Puder should be thanking Kurt for even dropping his name. Otherwise, he'd still be in the boat he's gonna be in next month: Daniel Who?

Nah, I think he has reason to be bitter for being fired. But that's a judgment call that only he can make, since none of us know the exact circumstances under which he left/was fired. Even if he has no reason to be bitter, he still has a RIGHT to be bitter, it's his life, and it's his business. Like I said before, he's not shoving it down our throats, he just answers questions about it when asked, and made one or two comments on TNA. Who cares if he's bitter? If he can still go in the ring, what difference does it make?

I am so totally going to quote you when Kurt dies next year.

He is not going to die. Quote that.

Write it down, take a picture, I don't give a FUCK!

The guy was put on a death watch, remember? He was going full speed ahead and he's not slowing down. He's either going to die or he's not going to be able to wrestle any more. God willing it's the second one but if he doesn't get the time off he needs, if he doesn't take it easy for a good long time, he's not going to be in the ring for that much longer.
I don't want to say all of these horrible things about him, but he has lost a lot of respect as of late. I know I'm only one person, and in the long run unless you're on the inside of the industry one person's respect won't get you a cup of coffee, but I'm sure I'm not the only fan who has a distain for Kurt right now.

The thing is you care WAY too much. How about just letting him entertain you and not worry about his personal life? You don't know him, he doesn't know you. Also from what he has said is that he is off the pain killers. That he is getting better and we know that TNA is a light schedule. He hasn't done a THING yet, except break a sweat for about 1 minute. Leave the guy alone and just let him do his job. One match a month isn't going to kill the guy.

Well I'm sorry for putting his well being ahead of my cheap pops.
Do you really think Kurt is going to just get in the ring once a month? And what about the training? I'm sure less time on the road means more time in the gym. And his next injury? Next time a doctor gives him pain pills? Have you read Regal's book? So Kurt is off pain killers now. Regal tried a few times to get off of some pretty nasty drugs. Let him dry out for a year or so and then we'll discuss being off pain killers.

Kurt Angle might be the next Hulk Hogan if he slows down. No, not the 1980's Hogan, but the Hogan of 2003 when everyone said he should have called it quits and no one liked him anymore.

But you failed to make a case for that?

He'll always be an addict. That's what addiction does to you. It doesn't matter who you are or how long you're dry. The next time you go off the wagon, for any reason, you're in deep shit.

I'd rather have some more faith in humanity and say people can drop the addiction, however I believe you're right on this.

I'd like to believe that God loves and takes care of all his children. However, after having watched some pretty bad things happen to some pretty good people, I'd be a bit of an idiot to believe that.

Kurt's in a worse situation. You can get by in life, for certain, without booze or tobacco. On the other hand, you can't make the same guarantee about pain killers. I've been on more than I'd like to be on. Kurts's profession makes it almost surefire. It's going to come down to pills as long as he keeps working.

You would be quoting me out of context, because I was saying that it doesn't matter if he's bitter. I agree he shouldn't be wrestling, but what would you have me do? It's his decision, and as a viewer, he still entertains me. He IS wrestling, whether we like it or not, so I figure I might as well enjoy it, because at the moment, I'd imagine his matches will still be better than most of the crap in WWE or TNA.

How am I supposed to make a case without any evidence? It's ridiculous to argue the merits of somebody else's feelings, particularly if you've had no direct contact with that person.

But you said that you think he has a reason to be bitter, so obviously there is SOMETHING that made you say that.

Well what reason is that, because he said it himself? Or is it because everyone thinks that Vince McMahon is such a bad person that ANYONE who talks bad about him or the company must be 100% correct?

I got news for you, as much as the IWC talks about Vince being the worst person ever, he's really not AS bad as everyone makes him out to be.

I love Kurt and all, but his recent rants from TNA have really made him look suspect and childish. All of the sudden, everything was WWE's fault--even things that don't quite make sense.

I can understand he's bitter, but I would have expected him to handle himself better. Seriously... everytime a guy goes to TNA, he bitches about WWE. It's like they script it that way, which basically results in a lot of bullshit.

That's a great reason not to have said anything in the first place. Unfortunately, it's a bad reason to use after the fact to indicate why you shouldn't have to back up your reasoning.

Remember when Jeff Hardy got fired because he refused to goto rehab?

I said I think he has a reason to be bitter for being fired. It may not be a GOOD reason, but if he got fired, it would not surprise me if he were bitter. The action of being fired IS the reason for being bitter. Again, this is not necessarily a good reason, but I am in no place to judge because I don't know the circumstances. Therefore, I am not trying to make a case for him being justified in making any of these claims, and if I gave the impression that I was, it was a mistake and I apologize.

I don't seem to be making myself clear here. My point is, and has been, that Kurt has a right to feel however he wants to feel. Why should we, the fans, care about how he feels? His personal life and his in ring performance do not have to be connected in the eyes of the viewer.

Take JBL for example - I hate JBL the person, and all that he stands for. However, on the mic on WWE tv, I think he's great. Because I hate the person does not mean that I can't enjoy the character.

Kurt's "character" right now seems to be the same old TNA character. I'm sorry, but you can be a brilliant athelete and be ruined by being the same also-ran that everyone else is,.

I said "character" for JBL because he has nothing to offer in the ring. I watch Angle for the matches (though he is no slouch on the mic), and he hasn't even had a match in TNA - however, I would be surprised if he isn't still great.

I'm witholding judgement on thnigs I cannot yet judge. However, his "character," both in TNA and while promoting TNA (Which I'd imagine is largely KAYFABE) is unimpressive.

I gotta agree there. :(