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Posted by Aaron Rift on 12/20/2006 at 05:52 PM

When Edge and Shelton Benjamin were on Showbiz Tonight on CNN they talked about the mortar that landed only 300 yards from the base while the wrestlers were at Camp Victory. They showed the video. There was an uncomfortable moment when the female host of the show said, "Now, we all know wrestling is fake...big shocker, but what goes on in Iraq is real and" . . then she asked Edge about how he felt about going. Edge said in response, that this was his first trip going because the first time he was suppose to go go he had broken neck in this fake industry of ours.

Did he really have to say that?

If she'd said 'scripted' then he may not have gone off on one.

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......KENNEDY!

Heh, I bet you thought I was gonna say

IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMMIT!

He shouldn't have stopped at that...I like it when wrestlers flip out at any sort of media that is bashing wrestling.

Yeah, and guess what? The media doesn't care. Seriously, after all of the tell-all books, all of the arrests on drug charges, all of the documentaries, all of the injuries, and all of the advancement in the industry, the media still looks at wrestling as a sideshow circus not worthy of merit but of mockery and scrutiny. Wrestlers on TV shows and in movies are still portrayed as bulked-up masked men as ridiculous cartoony characters. It doesn't make a difference how bad Edge's was broken. The reporter still isn't going to give a sh*t.

The sad fact is, the only time the media portray wrestling as non-fake is when a wrestler dies.

Edge is indeed the man. :D

Wait, so Shelton got no love? This is typical of the black man not getting a voice in this world! :foc:

It's like when some idiot finds out I watch wrestling and will then ask if I know it's fake or not.

Good for Edge. What kind of tone did he use?

My whole family is always like that. "You know it's fake right?" And I'm all, "Aw, hell, you mean those scientists didn't REALLY bring those dinosaurs back to life at that park?"

Yeah, looking like a moron for wigging out on national TV=the man!

Good for Edge, at least he took a stand for himself and his profession instead of letting some stupid bitch getting away with making some unneccessary comment.

His was an unnecessary comment also. You think the chick cares about his neck or any other wrestler's?

So he should just sit there and not even say anything about it?

Come on, I mean I haven't seen the footage but if he did so in a somewhat calm manner then what is the big deal? She made a snotty remark about wrestling being fake, Edge simply replied that he broke his neck for a "fake" sport. I don't see that being bad on his part, if she wasn't being some high and mighty reporter trying to be oh so clever, then he wouldn't have made that remark.

Fixed.

This is not the way to "get back at" or "stand up to" the media. This is the equivalent of Funky trying to dissolve the black stereotype of a thug by screaming on camera waving a gun and slapping his "ho."

So if someone basically insulted what you do for a living, you would just sit there and not say anything back?

I mean if he went Vince McMahon on her and started yelling and making threats, then yeah that's not cool. But if he is responding to a comment that he took offense to in a calm manner, then why should that look bad on him?

I have not seen it, but I think he did the right thing in defending his profession and making the point about breaking his neck.

What difference does it even make if he was injured in a "fake" sport? People get injured doing some pretty menial things. It lends no credibility to his side, and comes off as equally snotty (and bitter).

I don't think she was insulting it per se, just bringing up what the majority of the people accept as common knowledge.

Someone insults my profession, I will do my best to make the most positive statement I can. Rather than validate her, I would disarm the statement.

We all know wrestling is fake, independent of Edge's injury. That's a stupid and pointless comment.

She said that it was fake, which had no barring in the freaking story, Edge simply stated that he broke his neck in the fake sport. That just means, hell if it is so fake then how come people get hurt all the time doing it?

That's not something that Edge should be scorned over. I mean it's not like he went in full-on wrestling promo on her going "Yeah you stupid bitch, if you think it's so fake why don't you step in the ring with the Rated R Superstar? GRRRRRRR!!!"

That would be dumb of him to do, but he didn't. And unless he acted in an equally snotty tone, then he did nothing wrong that anyone else in his position would've done.

who cares, wrestling is fake and Edge knows it

I could see how it could be interpreted as an attack, but it's funny seeing the same people who didn't see the segment and assumed Edge wasn't spazzing out also assuming that the woman was being a snotty bitch.

In any event, it's all taken out of context, but I think the principle of supporting someone for snapping back is pretty stupid.

Well like I said I didn't see it, BUT I also did say that assuming he did respond in a non-assholeish manner, then he didn't do anything wrong.

I will retract my statement if I have evidence to the contrary (ie: the video of him spazzing out ala McMahon during the Costas interview a few years back).

I just want to give Edge the benefit of the doubt on this one.

right. Because people don't get injured in other "fake" forms of entertainment.

Of course, you're assuming the tone is snotty on her end. Didn't you just say you didn't see the segment?

But you're still only giving one side the "benefit of the doubt." The online transcripts don't look like there was any conflict on either side. So your assumption is still flawed.

From the way it comes off in that report, Edge did the right thing. Remember when that lady was hired by the WWE, and she asked JBL how he kept making the "fake blood" come out. People see wrestling like that, and at the risk of sounding overly sensitive about professional wrestling, that is quite ignorant. People seem to think it is all "smoke and mirrors" and there is no skill involved with what they do.

It's like saying a stunt-man is a pussy because he doesn't really want to kill the guy driving the car when he smashes through the windshield.

There was no reason to take a stab at professional wrestling in that interview, the whole point was to promote it. Edge did the right thing, and what he said actually made sense in context to the question. If he had started tossing furniture around, and given her a stiff Spear to try and prove his point, then yes, that may have been overdoing it. Making a retort was fine, in my opinion. If anything, she came off the idiot.

Well honestly if someone was blatently insulting something I love passionatly I could see taking it as a personal attack. His response wasn't too outlandish. Love him for speaking his mind.

Weren't you the person who assumed Triple H was taking shots at John Cena, when he said Kurt Angle wasn't getting the heel responses he was meant to?

The meaning of the words, and the sense in which it is reported doesn't necessarily paint her as a bitch, she used the word "fake", which has negative implications. Perhaps if she had said "scripted", as previously mentioned, which it is, things would have probably gone smoothly.

The word "fake" shows ignorance, as professional wrestling isn't "fake". Guys stiff the shit out of each other all the time. It's like saying movies are "fake".

People think there is absolutely no risk involved in professional wrestling. "Smoke and mirrors", if you will. It's this kind of mentality Edge was obviously trying to deflect, and I doubt he would have done it if she hadn't come off like an uneducated bitch.

You make assumptions all the time. Don't call someone out because they do. Remember when you thought The Miz was a babyface?

You don't need to see the segment to read the title of the article "Edge gets offended". Hmm, sounds like he took offence to something the woman said. If she offended him, we are probably right to make the inference she came off either condescending or ignorant.

Of course, the legitimacy of the article is disputable. No DQ? Hmm.

MY BONER FOR EDGE REMAINS UNWAIVERING

Yeah, there was no reason at all for this woman to bring up wrestling being "fake". Justifies Edge, IMO.

He should have speared her, and then had sex with her and got into a fued with her boyfriend.

I can't believe this sparked a debate.

Me niether

*neither.

Also, I am firmly in support of the "Edge is the man" theory.

^

As am I.

If you replace Edge with, say, Austin, there'd be less of a debate. on second thought, there'd be an act of domestic violence on set.

However, at least Edge didn't call her a mindless talking head. That'd be tit for tat. He actually took the high road.

This is why I love Edge so much. You stand up for your profession, man!

Damn I havent been spelling neither right for like 3 years then

Edge is da man. :D

So anyone got a video of it or summit?

Edge isn't an idiot. It's not like he pulled an Andrew dice clay, shes an ingorant ditzy newcaster and he made her look like an idiot sort of.

And to a certain extent, some of the media has accepted wrestling as "realER" since all of Mick Foley and WWE's exploits.

How would a guy like Edge not take offense? Like the industry of wrestling is any more fake than the media and CNN's...

I can't help but wonder why anyone might have that opinion.

*cough*http://www.wwe.com/content/media/vid...assionoftheass*cough*

Yessir, no idea at all.

LOL @ people still mad at the chick. Seriously, is wrestling fake? Yes or no?

No. It's scripted. I'd say that there's a huge difference.

Not in eyes of the media which is why she made that comment. Edge could've showed her clips of his surgery, Benoit's scar, HHH's quad X-rays, Mick Foley's body, and even Eddie Guerrero's autopsy reports and corpse. It doesn't matter because no one takes it seriously. Why? BECAUSE IT'S A RIGGED SPORT!!!

And how exactly DID Edge get that broken neck? Did one of his opponents seriously go after it with malicious intent? Did someone twist it on purpose? Did he get smacked with a hammer for real? Or was it an 'over time' thing that happened while working in an industry that dictates you be sure not to hurt each other because of the script?

So is Boxing, what's your point?

That doesn't even make sense. What does that have to do with anything?

This:

http://kimskorner.zed1.net/albums/Answers/chewbacca.jpg

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Seriously, Boxing is just as rigged as Wrestling. People get hurt in Boxing all the time, the only difference being: Boxing is seen as (Somewhat) respectable, despite being dishonest about it's rigged nature.

It's more acceptable because it's not a circus.

Well, maybe without Tyson, but....

if Kurt Angle or Benoit said the same thing, there would be no arguement about who is in the right or wrong.

Actually, yeah, because the point still stands that wrestling is fake.

I'm guessing the reporter didn't want to do the interview so that was her subtle way at getting back at whoever made her do it.

Yeah that's why when someone gets injured on the set of movie no one cares...becuase it's fake...

It is fake. The accident is real enough but hurting themselves isn't what they're setting out to accomplish.

Just like acting...wow...begining to see a trend here...

The media is faker than wrestling. Seriously, watch the news sometime. They're phonier than wrestlers. And they don't take chairshots.

Its not about him defending whether its real compettition or not. He's not trying to say it's not scripted. It's about what she implied. The way she said "we all know that wrestling is fake.." and it came off as very snobby and ignorant.
He took it the way I did when I read it, she doesnt know what shes talking about and it comes as an insult to a guy like him or anyone who knows the business to say it like that. Nobodys saying its "real", its just the connotation she was using when she called it "fake. And please don't say thats not what she was implying because you know as well as I do what her sentiments were towards it.

After all, they were on Showbiz Tonight. They weren't going on Sportscenter talking about it. So with that enough is said about the industry. She made an ignorant comment and Edge took offense.
He didn't fly off the collar, he just defended what him and his colleigues do for a living, and people who actually know the facts. He did so with a subtle, sarcastic comment and it was low key and not out-of line. Seriously Mick Foley and others have done it and I feel its just. How does he look like an idiot?

I'm not saying he looked stupid. It just wasn't necessary because what's the point? If the chick hadn't realized the rigors of the business up until that point, why would a sly remark from Edge change that?

I was hoping he'd pull a Vader and completely spazzout.

Well what was the point of her bringing it up in the first palce?

I mean if someone offended you in some way, would you just sit back and not even comment to the person about it?

Doesn't mean he still shouldn't say anything. I know its not the same thing, but if an old ignorant biggot makes a racist comment do you not say anything? Because no remarks gonna change that either. He took a stand and said something on principle and because he took offense, rightfully so. I also think he reacted in a good manner. What he said was subtle, witty but effective. I'm sure she picked up on it, she probably even felt embarassed.

There's a world of difference between a racist comment and making an uneducated comment on someones profession, which was essentially correct.

That comparison is crap. What did you want him to say to her?

"No ma'am, it isn't fake."

I said I know its the not the same thing, but I was drawing the analogy of her 'not changing regardless of whats said to her' to a type of person who doesnt change regardless of whats said to them. You got the analogy. It was about the idea of principle involving both. An analogy, not a pound for pound comparison so please. I wasn't comparing her comments to a racists comments directly...obviously.

It's not about changing that particular chick's mind. It's about defending yourself against an untruth. Just because wrestling is scripted doesn't mean that it's fake. They still have to bust their asses in the ring every week of the year, and their injuries aren't fake. Just because they aren't inflicted purposefully doesn't mean a man's neck is any less broken.

From other thread....

Hmm?

Get off my nuts.

I don't recall this. Can you back it up?

And ask yourself "Did the woman really need to include the 'we all know wrestling is fake comment'?" She could've easily said "So Edge, what was it like being in Iraq?"

She didn't, she just had to make the snide mark of "We all know wrestling is fake and what's going on in Iraq is real." If this was already commonly know, then why even mention it?

Edge could've reacted in three ways.

1. Spazzed out and make him and the company look even worse than they already are.

2. Said nothing and make himself look like a joke by letting her say that kind of remark.

3. Replied to her comment in a calm, rationale tone.

He did #3, which is what any normal person would do in his position. If you are being interviewed on live television and the person interviewing you makes an offensive statement, you're not going to just sit there and not say anything back.

And anyone who has ever been in the wrestling industry takes offense to the word "fake." I think The One, Dave, or anyone else who has ever did any kind of wrestling training would back me up on.

It's not about denying the inner workings of the industry (although some people still do), it's about the hard work, pain, dedication, sacrifice, etc. that the wrestlers go through to get where they are.

Fake implys that everything that happens in that ring is painless and everyone goes home perfectly fine. Which obviously is not the case for the most part, that's why wrestlers take offense to people calling wrestling fake.

LOL. Once again. Yeah, you come off as overly defensive about wrestling. I wonder why. So much so that there's this phantom world of people who think nobody ever gets hurt in wrestling.

Next thing you'll tell me is that people still think wrestling is real...


Wow. If your previous assertion about me is as out of context as this one, you're just lying to defend Edge.

You don't need to see the segment to read the title of the article "Edge gets offended". Hmm, sounds like he took offence to something the woman said. If she offended him, we are probably right to make the inference she came off either condescending or ignorant.

Of course, the legitimacy of the article is disputable. No DQ? Hmm.[/quote]

I own you.

I'm still missing hwow she's ignorant, and how he made her look like an idiot. Do you think anyone outside the wrestling fanbase is actually going AW SNAP?

If so, take your meds, the schizophrenia is acting up again.

Weapon X said 'fake' and then 'scripted', it's clear that he meant scripted. Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that an ignorant newsreader did the same?

How would have JBL handled that, probably chuckled at her and said something constructive to make her understand. Edge isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, and unfortunately missed a good oppotunity.

And that's the end result. Who looks bad? The guy defending a fake sport, or the "ignorant" woman who calls it fake, a convention every non-smark agrees to?

Nobody outside of the fanbase is going AW Snap. Nobody's doing anything. Thats half of the reason why you're wrong when you say Edge made himself look stupid. He didn't look stupid in the situation, he reacted well...and nobody think he looked stupid, not even anyone else on here.

Are you kiddingAddy? JBL would probably hog tie her and threaten rape.

That's the thing. Arguing that it's not "fake" becomes semantics. It's fake, even though people really do get hurt. We can put a softer face on it as wrestling fans, but...It really comes down to being fake. It's not even ignorance to call it fake, it's ignorance to think that changing the wording makes it any less staged, scripted, or fake. I wonder why people are so eager to look past the elephant in the room.

There are smarter ways to handle a statement like that, but then maybe this is why wrestling looks so stupid to the uninitiated. Because our ambassadors to the outside world are rarely well-spoken or insightful. On the other hand, the transcripts don't sound hostile on either side. Edge doesn't read as defensive, Anderson doesn't read as inflamatory.

On a side note, I wonder how RVD would have reacted (Had he gone to Iraq, or had he been interviewed in another scenario). JBL's intelligent, but RVD's a truly cool customer in almost any way imaginable.

Not that it matters. You go to war with the wrestlers you have, not the wrestlers you wish you had.

Right. You just tell yourself that.

It's bullshit, and you only need to look at other reactions to see I'm not the only dissenting opinion, but why let reality intrude on this whole affair?

And I suppose only the 15 internet smarks here watch Showbiz Tonight, and nobody else will see it or form an opinion.

One thing I'll tell you. If he would have just sat there and took it, he'd get a lot of heat from the guys in the back.

He did the right thing.

The point is, that there is a lot of people who seem to take these things so seriously, certain people on this thread & Edge included, which is systematic of the whole industry at the moment. The whole notion of 'fakeness' is almost like bad press to the WWE. Or an insult to some fans.

They probably coach them to say certain things if anyone does this in the media. 'Pull out something about an injury' - I mean, it's perfect, most of the roster have had them.

I agree that this is like a pathological issue.

And to people complaining about the word fake. Ask yourselves why they call it fake: Because it's a "scripted," "staged," "sport."

So...Ummm...You're arguing it's not faked, it's faked.

Nobody's pretending Eddie's still alive and the Blue Blazer was all a work. Nobody's saying people don't get hurt. Nobody's saying Michael Moore is Jabba the Hutt...Well, actually...

LOL, sometimes you crack me up. (People have opinions that vary from yours. Many people watching the show could easily side with people like Jerry here.)

WWE has been open about the 'entertainment' nature of the industry and set outcomes. They maintain a kayfabe world but apart from that they are very open about what they are presenting as a form of entertainment.
They certainly do not coach their wrestlers, or make it a point to portray it as real to the media.
What Edge said is a case of self defense and education regarding the validity of athleticism and danger in the line of work and the industry, which in the minds of some ignorant outsiders is non-existant. He did it on principle, personal and professionally and was justified in doing so. He didn't look like an idiot to overall, smark mark or outsider POVs included.

If he looked like such an idiot, or it was an embarassment. Why can't I even find it on youtube, where you can find ANYTHING? Nobody was put off by Adam Copelands comments.

Actually, they do a lot of times tell people to say certain things and/or stay in kayfabe which in a sense is trying to pass it off as "real."

But if WWE was talking in Edge's ear during this, he would've threatened to spear the woman for making that comment. And THAT would've made him look like a damned fool.

Okay, guys, this entire argument is pointless and ridiculous about Edge's comments. You know why? Wrestling is not fake. :'(

You do know that this comment isn't saying that everyone who watches ST is going to side with me, right?

It's refuting his argument that nobody will agree with me. First off, he immediately discounted everyone who actually watches the show (Unless, as my statement asserts, only the smarks commenting on this board are the ones watching...), which is especially silly, since the mainstream viewers are more likely to find the statement that it's fake true, then he goes on to discount other people who has disagreed with him.

This isn't about mine being the only opinion, or any other little silly strawman you can put up. Sorry. :(

IT'S STILL A VIABLE JOKE TO ME, DAMMIT!

I never said he was an idiot or an embarrassment. I'm really of no opinion of how he looked etc etc.

You say it's a case of education, yet they deny it's fake. Why is that? Why not just say 'scripted' and be done with it, I've seen it done at other times. I remember seeing Kurt Angle before he got huge on a tour promoting in the UK. Someone on our sad version of MTV asked him, 'Kurt, now wrestling is fake right?'. Angle, totally unshaken and with a smirk on his face, replied, 'I wouldnt say fake, I think pre-determined is the right word.' The guy had no answer.

I mean, who cares what he said, no-one is going to take a man who's name appears on the screen as 'Edge' as opposed to 'Adam Copeland'. I bet half the people watching thought, 'I bet he stole that from the guy in U2'.

The alternative doesn't have to be say nothing. The issue was the stuff in Iraq so a novel thing to say would've been something about, guess what, Iraq.

Yep, they do bust their asses and do a lot of hard work like remembering all of those important spots and cues, whispering moves into their opponent's ears, trying to land the right way to avoid injury, keeping that condom of blood from falling out, protecting their opponent on a move, pretending to be mad at someone who's actually a good friend, and making sure the fans believe all the blood on their face came from that chair shot.

Condom of blood?

Don't worry. It's normal.