LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL *ECW SPOILER*
 

Bob Holly just beat CM Punk Clean.

Spinning Alabama Slam.

WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME I CAN'T BELIEVE THOSE STUPID........Nah, I can't even pretend to be surprised at this point.

that'll show punk. hmmmm

He owned Punk the entire match. Almost looked like a squash.

Looks like Punk hasn't paid his dues.

They never learn do they?

LMAO! That isn't at the expense of Punk, but at the expense of the WWE. Fuck they're stupid.

I mean, I see why they're doing it. Punk hasn't "paid his dues", and Holly is probably the last top heel they have after Test, but come on. Clean?

When does Punk's contract come up? I ask this in all seriousness, because Punk is on good terms with Heyman, isn't he? I mean, Paul E. did make him a Triple Crown Champion down in OVW. If Rob Van Dam, Sabu, CM Punk, Sandman and Tommy Dreamer all walk away from the WWE, and a few talent walk away from TNA, and we get some of ROH's finest and brightest...:drool:

Of course, I am a living in a crystal-meth inspired world.

Of all the people to beat Punk...Holly? Way to kill off Punk's momentum entirely.

How dare he be the most successful face act on WWE television, and the only real chance we have of getting back into the mainstream? :foc:

God, the WWE are so fucking stupid.

He outpopped DX, he must learn his lesson!

His natural personality and charisma is drawing people into our programming! We must stop this!

Justin Roberts: Ladies and gentleman...lock away your daughters, because weighing in at 222lbs, from a pub in Chicago, Illinois...CM Punk, "The Lovable Drunk"!

:'(

Honestly they should just hire Cabana and Danielson, shit on them too, that way wwe would kill off all my interest in wrestling

As long as Punk goes over in the end of the feud, it could be ok....but it's WWE Creative so Holly will dominate every match.

Didn't the WWE get Cabana? Or was he released or something?

Anyway, what are you going to do? It's WWE booking. At least he didn't job to Khali...

Unless he did, I haven't watched ECW for like four months...

Thank god I've become a casual fan. Makes everything much easier to laugh at.

Thanks for coming Tommy, don't forget to turn the lights out

If I had Sci-Fi in my dorm I would tune in right now. Anywho, I find it funny that everyone is so bothered by stuff like this. I wonder if Punk is bothered that he jobbed clean to Holly. Or is he just thinking about that statement he made in an interview that if the WWE misused him he would, "buy a nice house and a hummer[like Shannon Moore did]".

Aerial omggg :drool:

I thought Shannon gave hummers... :wtf:

I'm glad I didn't watch this and have tuned in for the freaks match

WWE and the word "Creative" are a HUGE oxymoron. :shifty:

More like WWE UNCreative!



*Crickets* :$

I like Bob Holly, so i dont mind this.

Lashley finally has a new theme but he still looks like a punk.

still has the charisma that can only be rivaled by Jay Lethal

I'll tell you what, with the way everything has gone this week, the lack of sanity, the shitty booking, I'm willing to bet that if Vince is totally off his rocker, RVD wins this match

No way Splaya, that'd be a good thing.

Wow Lashley's ring entrance looks strangely familair. Oh Brock Lesnar

Yeah but with everything that has gone on this week, it would not suprise me

You get in wrestling with hopes of being successful (winning titles and making a lot of money). And you can't be successful by jobbing cleanly to the likes of Hardcore Holly on a weekly basis.

And believe it or not, WWE don't pay their wrestlers as much as you'd think unless they are Main Eventers.

Holy shit

Oh now I like this ending.

Holy shit at the chairshot on Van Dam

LOL. Test has girl legs.

seriously somebody ignores their legs just a bit in the gym

Gotta agree.

I don't like the little Weasel, but to quote Bugs Bunny (Who makes more sense than WWE these days, but who doesn't?)., "What a way to run a railroad."

Come on, this is a horrible way to build people up. And they're doing it with so many people.

If I had $1,000,000, I'd give Paul Heyman a business loan -- no, fuck it...a GRANT -- to start up a new wrestling organization. I mean srsly this is getting to be ri-goddamn-diculous.

Way to go WWE. Way to go on building your brand. Big thumbs up. big big BIG Thumbs up.

Best ECW in a while
 

Even though the Khali Match was rather eh, and the Hardcore Holly defeat was bullshit and the RVD/Lashley match ended in a dumb way The matches were good and I enjoyed the commentary for the first time in a while. I thought tonight's show was pretty damn good.

Why tonights ECW was good:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/shows1/...lypinCM456.jpg
http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/shows1/...rieldip456.jpg

I can't wait to see how what'll go wrong on Smackdown this week. :D

I shouldn't laugh and say 'I told you so, minutes after the big pop thing at Survivor Series and got laughed at by most people on this board....', but I told you so.

Punk won't even appear at Mania. He will draw no.4 in the Rumble and be eliminated by JTG.

:nono: The one thing ECW had going for them was the way Punk was being pushed.

A post I can reply to without abuse. Well done CC.

He hasn't been pushed since SS. You see, the WWE have mapped out plans for their next generation of big stars. Christian found that one out, and Punk is months - hell, probably years ahead of the McMahons schedule for him. Notice how after Heyman bites the dust, so does Punk - Heyman was big on Punk in the now. All the McMahons and their cronie writers are big on are Little Voice Lashley and Bobcore Holly. Punk's title push is at best, being saved for after Mania. Although the size of him, that push will probably be for the Cruiserweight Title on SD.

Fixed. Anyway, I agree. But hey, I think we've established thta most of the smarks on this board are retarded. Remember Burchill? Remember the dozens of other people for that matter? Still, I can't help but remember how far Burchill was going to go, how Burchill was going to fly, how Burchill got to WWE, and his finisher was...A shoulder breaker into an armbar. And trying to make the best out of a bad situation, fanboys started going "OMG BEST ARMAR EVER! THAT WAS SICKKKKKKKKKKK!"

Serious learning disability.

Suddenly, I feel better about having watched Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.

Wrestling starts on Thursday nights for me, from now on.

Punk's gotta pay his dues. You know he can't expect to get pushed in his FIRST year <s>since he's not a Brock Lesnar clone</s>. I mean, goodness, Bobcore's been around <s>jobber town</s> for ages. You think a young nobody like Punk can get over Hardcore Holly? The guy's only behind The Undertaker in backstage <s> senility</s> longevity. That Punk's gotta pay his dues, dammit! No one <s>under 6'4" and 275 lbs</s> gets a free ride in the business! You have to <s>suck Vince's cock</s> spend years slowly building your way up before you get a chance at stardom! C.M. Punk clearly <s>was caught making out with Stephanie</s> hasn't done that yet, and that is why he has to do it the <s>Johnny Ace</s> hard way. Punk can't rest on his laurels just because <s>he gets massively cheered everywhere</s> a few fans are very vociferous. This year is <s>MAKE IT OR BREAK IT</s> just the start for him, and he's going to have to work for a long time before he makes it near the top!!

shut the fuck up! Vince knows you are gona watch next week...and so do you.

His finisher was the C4. I want you to try and do a C4 and come back and tell me how easy it was.

Talk about over reacting. Wrestling runs in programs, one match means shit. If Holly wins the feud however then you all might have a reason to make this thread.

Good thing he went far, eh?

Burchill, the only thing I can remember about him was being dressed as a pirate at Wrestlemania. What was that about??

When he came in, his finisher was "shoulder breaker into armbar."

I'm aware his finisher before that in the indies and after that was the C4. I'm also aware that your statement changes nothing, so I'm curious of the point. Paul Burchill was supposed to come into WWE and tear things up with his high-flying antics, and when the fanboys didn't get that, they defended what they did get--A guy who didn't fly, mostly brawled, and had a shite finisher--As though we were getting Ultimo Dragon, Kurt Angle, and Shawn Michaels rolled into one. It's got fuck all to do with the difficulty of the C-4, which is neither the finisher I was addressing, nor really the issue here.

cm punk in tna would be awesome! How much longer in his contract?

well joes loss to angle does not look so bad now, better to lose to him then holly, so in the thread whos bigger joe or punk, joe is bigger now.

Was a big deal ever really made out of his streak? Is it the finality of his career? Are you really that shocked it happened?

Not at all. I called it 2 months ago. In fact, in my post I'm sure I mentioned Holly.

Remember kiddies, Eddie G was destroyed by Big Show a couple of months before winning the WWE title off Lesnar.

Hope that gives you all hope.

It's not about the fact that Punk lost moreso the fact who he lost to and how.

Let's see...he lost to a middle aged never was mid-carder in Hardcore Holly. And he lost CLEAN to him. Punk hardly put up a fight near the end of the match.

You don't do that to a guy who clearly had more momentum on their side than most of the WWE roster currently has.

Actually, I don't even have the Sci Fi channel. :D

Though I don't think he should have lost cleanly to Holly, I'm not really suprised. I mean, we all love Punk, but did anyone honestly expect them to keep him undefeated and climb right up to the championship? He lost a match and it will happen again. It shouldn't kill his heat. Losing a match cleanly here or there isn't the equivalent of jobbing out.

Careful Jeritron, you are contradicting yourself on seperate threads.

Perhaps he's a bit of an arrogant shit backstage? That would indicate why it was Bobcore Holly that he jobbed to. Had it been RVD or Lashley, then I doubt they'd be as much cafuffle about it.

If Trips is the Raw locker room leader, Taker the SD one, then I would say that since Heyman departed, Holly probably took over.

Yeah, but if you did...! :lol:

I haven't been watching WWE TV at all for about a month. I've been keeping up with it by reading results online and everything. Since I'm a member of PWTorrents, I can watch good wrestling.

What did I say in another thread? That he shouldn't lose? I'm saying they clearly have/and continue to fuck things up, but this single incident shouldn't destroy his career. He lost a match and it will happen again, whether or not it should be to Holly or not is another issue. I'll try and find what I said in another thread but I doubt its the opposite of that.

You said in the other thread that they were killing his heat and it was bad. You said in this thread that they weren't killing his heat and it was ok.

Obviously I've paraphrased a bit in the above.

Okay, I really can't remember what I said but what I was trying to say here is that this one incident shouldn't kill his heat. I don't remember ever saying anything about it from before but if I did here's what I basically feel: This is stupid and they shouldn't kill his heat by continuing shit like this, but if its limited to this event and other periodic losses it shouldn't be catastrophic.

I looked through that other thread and I only said that they were idiots and fucking up, but they weren't actually trying to sabotage him/themselves. It may have come off as wishy washy since I'm saying that its stupid and I dont agree with it, but also thinking that its not the end of the world and they're not actually TRYING to kill his heat.

They just look small compared to his upper body. And it doesn't matter cause girl legs is going to win the title on tuesday.

And this is where you lose credibility with me.

Gotta be honest, don't really give two shits about Punk at all, but burying him like this is criminal, especially when the guy is quite over, and solid in the ring.

Ah, so it was not actually a related comment. Good to know. :y:

It's against the ToS to hold two separate thoughts in your head, or to post them any time remotely close to one another. Your pennance is two "Our Jerichos" 15 "Hail Sabins" and one "Basham 3:16." And I will give you thins to ponder: Addressing two elements of the same issue separately is obviously contradictory, so you're doing it to be contrary.

I really have to ask this, if you don't mind.

Is one loss now burial, or is Punk just that horrible that he cannot recover from one loss? I'm just not sure which it is that people are arguing: The patently stupid, or the patently false.

Nah, in regards to me, I guess it isn't the fact that he LOST, and I don't think it's a loss that he's incapable of recovering from, considering how much the crowd eats this guy up.

A lot of this may be a personal bias, since I loathe Hardcore Holly. I guess I just kind of feel that if they were going to make Punk lose cleanly to someone, they could make him lose to someone....I don't know...meaningful?

But this is the ECW brand after all. Meaningful is few and far between. :D

:lol:

To sum up: You're overreacting, but you know you're overreacting. :y:

Not really. Punk actually seems rather bland to me, whereas Paul has shown the ability to entertain. Even if you didn't like the pirate shtick, you have to admit he's willing do go for the show.

But, yeah, I was just stating random opinion inspired by your comparisson. that is all. :)

Actually, I like Paul. I liked him before WWE, and I liked him during the pirate gimmick. Despite what Loopy and company would have you believe (which is, evidently, that I hate everyone new who comes into WWE), I only belittled the notion that he was going to be an instant success, a high flying big man, etc. And when he entered WWE, his finisher wasn't the mighty C4, like people were insisting, it was an armbar, and he was more of a brawler than anything else.

I think he's got Charisma and talent. My only problem with him was the realism versus the multiple comments along the lines of "The C-4 will be awesome in WWE!" and such. I predicted he'd enter WWE with a shitty finisher that had no name, and I was right--Though it's hard to take pride in predicting something as common as the sun rising. I mean, WWE will find a way to tone down even Monty Brown. The Poooooooooounce! Is too dangerous.

To be honest, I'm shocked he even got to use the C-4. He's still not the über high-flying daredevil he was predicted to be, but that's just common sense.

So yeah. I'm not knocking the C-4, either, which Terran seems to think. I'm knocking this mentality that people still have that makes them insist that THIS time, so and so will be used just like he was in the indies.

It's nice to see the kids as excited at Christmas as they were last year, running down the steps to see hat Santa left for them. But after years of Screech Powers-Brand condoms and "The Best of Chyna" DVDs, that kind of enthusiasm does become a little...Odd.