NFL 2007 Offseason Thread
 

And so it begins. The time where we want our teams to get the players that will take us all the way.

Here is the draft order for this year.

1. Oakland (2-14)
2. Detroit (3-13)
3. #Cleveland (4-12)
4. #Tampa Bay (4-12)
5. Arizona (5-11)
6. Washington (5-11)
7. Minnesota (6-10)
8. Houston (6-10)
9. Miami (6-10)
10. Atlanta (7-9)
11. San Fransico (7-9)
12. Buffalo (7-9)
13. St. Louis (8-8)
14. Carolina (8-8)
15. Pittsburgh (8-8)
16. Green Bay (8-8)
17. Jacksonville (8-8)
18. Cincinnati (8-8)
19. Tennessee (8-8)
20. NY Giants (8-8)
21. Denver (9-7)
22. Dallas (9-7)
23. Kansas City (9-7)
24. New England (from Seattle) (9-7)
25. NY Jets (10-6)
26. Philadelphia (10-6)
27. New Orleans (10-6)
28. New England (12-4)
29. Baltimore (13-3)
30. San Diego (14-2)
31. Chicago (13-3)
32. Indianapolis (12-4)

# -Subject to coin flip

I'm gunna pick the Colts this year guys.

LOL Diesle, did you intentionally pick two of the ugliest cheerleaders you could find to put in your sig?

Rams are going to win the NFC West this year.

giants definately need to sign asante samuel but they will probably sign jordan babineaux or something. Giants prediction: 6-10

Samuel got a tattoo that says GET PAID or something like that, so yeah I can't see the Patriots putting the franchise tag on him and signing him.

K screw that guy, dont like him anymore

Redskins 16-0

Colts stand to lose Cato June and Nick Harper. Freeney is getting tagged for sure if they cant reach a deal, but i think they'll reach a deal. I dont think they want to lose June and i'm not sure June can get alot more money or not. I mean the Bills paid Larry Tripplett a ton so maybe someone will pay June. June is a great tackeler and a great LB for our system. Harper has become one of my favorite players, but i think we'll lose him. Unless he signs for less then he's worth to stay. Marlin Jackson is ready for a CB spot which makes Harper expendable. I dont like it, but thats business i guess.

I want the Colts to sign Odalius Thomas, but Corey Simon has us so capped strapped, i doubt it.

I want my Cowboys to sign Steinbach or Leonard Davis on the o-line. That or go after Hamlin at safety.

Dominic Rhodes is a free agent also. That sucks. He's probably gone.

Not really a huge load of free agents to choose from this year. I suppose the story of the offseason will be when and where Randy Moss gets traded and the continuing of "musical quarterbacks", with Bledsoe, Garcia, Rattay, etc. find a place to play a year before they go to their next team. Sounds kind of boring to me at this moment.

I can see the Colts repeating next year, especially if Dungy and that coaching staff stay in place. Colts and Bengals look to be two teams to watch out for already come next season.

What what u talkin bout. They are finer then the Colts cheerleaders. :y:

KC should resign Huard. If this is Green's last year maybe he could take over the reigns? Also, Randy Moss to KC? If not maybe Keenan McCardell or David Boston.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that Green Bay quarterback Brett Favre has asked the team to consider acquiring Moss.

Dominic Rhodes will be wearing Green next year. :-\

I don't really know what to think about the Jets here, they are way under the cap apparently though. The Jets really need some depth up the middle. Vilma played his little heart out last year, and the rest of their linebackers kind of stink. Poslusny from PSU is a possibilty in the draft. Kind of dreaming to, but I had a preminission that Warren Sapp will come to the Jets. I dunno if he is a free agent but I definitely see him wanting out of Oakland obviously. New York might be to cold for him though :(

The Jets secondary is decent, it always seems it isn't to hard to find a guy who can play well imediately.

I am already looking at travel plans to Arizona for next February :cool:

-thanks stimes

Also Jets better freaking get Brian Leonard from Rutgers. They never get anybody from New Jersey. He'd be like Hoover in Carolina

<font color=goldenrod>Giants are most likely gonna release Carlos Emmons and sign Lance Briggs (who is best friends with Antonio Pierce).

They are also gonna need another RB. I'm hearing Michael Turner's name alot</font>

Lance Briggs OK, not as good as he's made out to be plus he flourishes in the Bears scheme but I can't see him being that bad. I thought LaVar Arrington was best friends with pierce :shifty: :-\

and yeah michael turner. i dunno. he will probably be really expensive. i really want jacobs to start but i seriously have no idea how he will do.

They were discussing it on Detroit sports talk radio today that the Bears need to get rid of Grossman, but cannot due to the lack of QB free agents that they can acquire

I'd think the Colts would be alright with losing June, you're right he does have good speed at the LB position (which you need in that system) but he seems to miss a lot of tackles. I don't think it would be a huge loss

I hope you are wrong about Briggs going to the Giants, I was kind of hoping the Patriots would take a look at him (I haven't heard anything about that) the dude made like 13 tackles last night.

Brodie Croyle

Also can someone fill me in on why Pats are picking 2 spots ahead of the Chargers even though they beat them in the playoffs?

They got the pick from Seattle I believe.

Thats just dumb to not sign Samuel when you're well underneath the cap and he's just now becoming a big time player. That would seem borderline arrogant. I assume Daniel Grahm is gone too?

I dunno if they feel he is a big time player though, I mean he had a lot of INTS this season but that is not all that goes into it. Its not like he's Champ Bailey out there or something, a lot of teams throw at him...a lot. I mean I would rather they kept him since he is real good, but he got a tattoo that says "GET PAID" so I really don't think he is going to want a reasonable amount of money

Graham will probably be gone aswell,but pretty sure that was part of the plan since they drafted David Thomas in last year's draft (as well as Garrett Mills who was on the practice squad last year)

I am gonna be seriously bummed if the Bengals cut Odell Thurman this offseason. As long as he is on the field there is no way he wouldn't become a top 10 defensive player in the league and he really doesn't seem like a bad guy. He's just a stupid kid who made some bad decisions. He's still ridiculously good at football.

Assman...you from DC or do you just like the redskins....my prediction. Falcons get a season changer in the offseason and go 11-5. 4-2 in division with losses to Tampa Bay and Carolina.

No AssMan hates the Redskins, and for some reason always flips out about how everyone always predicts how good the Redskins are going to be (I dunno who these people are, maybe the voices in his head or something) so he says Redskins 16-0 as a "joke"

I think he is making fun of ESPN or something cause they always say the Redskins "won" the offseason

Well they sign a lot of good talent every year

I really don't think anybody is picking them for the Superbowl

I hope they go 0-16 this year....I used to like them but since they lost to the Giants the Falcons were out of the playoffs.

They do the same thing every year. They go out and spend money on players, but for some reason that organization never equates it into on the field production, ie W's.

If there was no cap they would be the New York Yankees of pro football.

I remeber when assman said "man steve spurrier took the redskins to the super bowl twice man" lmao..and my friend told me at school that the raiders were gonna try to get Vick...if thats so...Trade him for #1 pick or draft Troy Smith 2nd round or earlier and Trade Vick for moss......even if Vick leaves I'll still be a die hard Falcon fan. and the Giants....7-9 my prediction

Anybody know where you can find cap figures? I only know the Jets are way under because Bob Costas said so

Shut up.

The reason I hate the Redskins is because every fucking year they make some huge offseason move and everyone around here acts like it's God's gift to the earth and that the Redskins win the superbowl. There are always columns in the Washington Post by the big sports writers predicting 15-1 seasons.

They are fucking retarded when it comes to their team, too. They made Adam Archuleta, a run stopping safety, the highest paid safety of all time and forced him in to a Cover 2 where he naturally blew (how could they not have seen this coming and figured it out once it did???). They sign more and more good players every year and make them suck, and they just get huge signing bonuses and a smaller salary so everyone wants to play there. Does anyone realize they went 5-11 this year?

Their players are huge assholes too. I dunno how anyone can really like Sean Taylor if they arent a Redskins fan, and I think Chris Cooley is about as hatable is JJ Redick. I think the only player I enjoy on their team is Jon Jansen. Their team just seems really dirty to me.

But their fucking owner is the worst fucking owner ever in the history of sports. He is the greediest bastard I have ever seen. Like parking is seriously like $50 at their stadium. Everything about their team is terrible. I can't explain this anymore.

lol yeah a few years ago the Redskins seriously took every single restricted free agent the Jets had.

Lavernious Coles
Randy Thomas
John Hall
and at least 1 more, and they ended up trading Coles back to the Jets anyway.

Patriots needs...

LB, LB, LB!!!!

preferable MLB/ILB.

a DB if they let Samuel go, yes he wants to get paid, but he's a lot younger the Ty Law was... the Pats might do it.

Also a Saftey... Harrison ain't getting any younger and Wilson is coming off injury.

I also wouldn't mind seeing the Pats go after Bennett or Curtis. Stallworth will get the top WR money, so one of the others may be available at a reasonable price.

Graham may go, all depends on what someone offers him.

If the Raiders would give the #1 pick for Vick the Falcons should do it, and sign Schaub to start.

Garcia will get an offer or two of starting money, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him take a discount to stay in Philly, where McNabb will get injured eventually.

Turner, it all depends on what a team has to give up (RFA), a friend of mine in SD says the charges really want to keep him, and I don't blame them... I think this guy could tear up the league if given the ball 20-30 times a game.

I would also assume Drew Bledsoe is done, he's always said he would never be on a team as a backup. He's made plenty of money, been in two super bowls, has 1 ring (as a backup, but made the play that put the Pats into that super bowl). Unless he goes somewhere that he's told he can compete for the #1 job in camp and then if he doesn't get it, retire...

That's the 24, I was referring to the 28 pick

I think the way it works is the draft has 4 sections of teams that are ordered by record: non playoff teams, playoff teams, Super Bowl runner up, Super Bowl winner. So even though the Patriots beat the Chargers, the Chargers still had the better record so the Pats pick first.

remember when Dan Snyder signed Chad Morton cause he ran back like 2 kicks in one game.

lol yeah thats who I was forgetting

http://images.sportsline.com/b/ap/ph...0737_lower.jpg
WHAT AN ASSHOLE

rofl. Class.

I'm fairly positive it goes by worst to best regular season records and then superbowl participants.

You might well be correct

I hope the Patriots draft Buster Davis out of FSU, dude is a sick fuck

Chad Morton fucking sucks. He should go get a job as a dance instructor because thats all he does on the field. Hell would have to freeze over before he just took the ball and ran with it.

DREW BREES WHO DAT!?!?!?

Saints will pick up Asante Samuels and Lance Briggs..

:shifty:

I wish he'd be more like Brady and not make the Pro Bowl, then I wouldn't have to see him get hurt in a meaningless game..

He had some stiff competiton in the NFC, that's for sure

Favre
McNabb
Hasselbeck
Vick
Delhomme
Eli Manning

Plenty have the skills to make it.. Can't blame Brees because they all underachived..

McNabb was having a Pro bowl year before he got injured.

And lets be serious here for a second what's more important 3 Super Bowl rings or going to a Pro Bowl?

I'm not saying Brady isn't a great QB, but how can Stima really take shots at Brees for getting hurt in the Pro Bowl, when Brady didn't even make it??

Cause he has 3 Super Bowl Rings.

That's why

Michael Stima has 3 superbowl rings??

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2007salarycap.htm


These are not 100% accurate though, They dont include salery bonuses that are due for certain players, more of a rough guide

None of those people are anywhere close to being on Brady's level.

How can you blame Brady that he plays in the same conference as Peyton Manning and Carson Palmer?

Also Brady was playing the Pro Am at Pebble Beach this weekend. I dunno about you but I think that's a pretty good deal.

lol I was just fucking around...but Eli Manning?

Speaking of the pro Bowl....Wonder how long Drew Brees is gonna get hurt and how long it'll be before that punter blacks out lol.....Most ruthless pro bowl ever.. :)

sean "classy high-end guy" taylor

That punter's comments after the game were great. He was like "Yeah I was thinking it was gonna hurt real bad but then I just kinda got up and it was no big deal. It still looked pretty cool though."

What is this talk of Moss to Green Bay?

Before you say that look at all the members on the list. Now granted his time has passed, and he should have retired a couple of years ago, but to say Brett Favre isnt at that level and how he plays with shit around him... i mean common... the guys a legend. Dont just throw him under the bus like that and group him with all those other guys.

The Pro Bowl isn't supposed to showcase guys that have had the best careers (although if they did Brady would probably start for the AFC)

Favre is old news right now. And right now there is no one in the NFC besides Brees who would even make the AFC roster as an alternate.

So called NFL experts are annoying.....OMG MOSS TO GREEN BAY...OMG VICK TO RAIDERS....OMFG FARVE TO RETIRE......Experts my ass

<font color=goldenrod>Holy fuck. On the day Tiki Barber retires, the Giants released Carlos Emmons, Luke Petitgout, and LaVar Arrington. :|

The only one I agree with is Emmons. No idea WTF Reese it thinking with the other moves</font>

Atleast you got Eli Manning who was a potential Pro Bowl QB according to Krispy

Every QB is a potential pro bowler according to how they play..

Jake Delhomme was also a Pro Bowl QB according to Kris P

Is that you John Madden?

I didn't say he was..

I said "could be"..

I'm just tired of people, who's team is in the AFC using that like it's a reason for not doing stuff..

"Brady would have made it, if he was in the NFC"..

You know what?? Saints would be good every year if the NFC South consisted of the Lions, the Raiders, and the Browns..

COME ON

Brady actually could have gone to the Pro Bowl, but passed. That's how Vince Young ended up in it.

MY guess is that Lavar will go to the Raiders depending on how much cap room they have. And has a team ever signed someone just to trade him for another good player?.....can they?.....should they?

Alright Krispy, besides Drew Brees, name one NFC QB who would've made the Pro Bowl over Manning, Palmer, Brady, and Rivers.

Nah, I am just gonna bring up some random mix of horrible teams instead

Marty Schottenheimer was just fired

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2763552

Drew Brees is the only QB that matters..

Stupidest shit ever..

Oh and to answer Supreme's question, Jeff Garcia prolly should have been there over Romo..

He gets canned yet Millen gets to keep his job :wtf:

Its good SD waited to fire him after their offensive coordinator took another job :y:

Pete Carroll probably thought the sanction would come down on USC so he called AJ smith and let him know he was still interested.

Huh? or was there another question I missed?

Had he stayed healthy and on pace, McNabb would/could have made it over Palmer, Brady, Rivers.

But, he didn't... so it goes under "If grandma had a set of balls she's be grandpa".

In the 80's the balance of power was the NFC, they had good running games and great defenses. They played smash mouth football and won super bowl after superbowl.

The last decade, it's been the AFC, a big reason is if you look at the coach's they're all NFC product of that smash mouth era, while the NFC started producing teams like St Louis aka "the greatest show on turf".

giants release Petitgout, Carlos Emmons, LaVar Arrington

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO

freein up mad cap space and getting rid of the most penalized lineman in NFL history, a crappy linebacker, and a dude who gets injured every year

oh nice

I said something similar in another thread..

Including this year, the AFC has only won like 8 outta the past 25 SuperBowls..

NFC will be back, one day..

And about Marty. I heard about it at like 11 ish but was too sleepy to get up and post it on here...Wonder whos gonna pick him up.

There was a Miami rumor.

But you also wonder at what point a coach who always gets so close, with teams who on paper have been picked to win, but can't seem to get over the hump.

ok, I heard this a few weeks back, but didn't really pay attention.

How the heck is Andre Tippett not in the hall of fame? The only outside LB of that era better then him was Taylor, and Taylors stats per game weren't much better, plus Taylor played on a much better defense most of his career (much better teams also) then Tippett and Andre still put up great numbers...

I admit at times to be blinded by knowing more about the local teams then other teams, but I just don't see how Tippett doesn't deserve to be in the HOF.

Seems like a Tony Dungy story. He lost in the playoffs a lot but finally won. I dont care how many playoff games you lose. 14-2????? I wish the Falcons would have waited...But this would cause Vick to have to use a different strategy...again.

<font color=goldenrod>Giants continue their cutting spree, releasing Chad Morton

Meh, no objections there.

Apparently LaVar is leaning towards retirement rather than signing elsewhere</font>

I'd take Dungy over Marty any day.

Dungy is 9-8 in the playoffs, with a superbowl apperance and win and has been with two teams.

Marty is 5-13 and has coach'd 3 teams (yeah, it's really 4, but I'm not counting the 1yr in washington).

Marty's last 4 playoff losses were upsets in the first game.

2006 - 14-2 lost to the Pats
2004 - 12-4 lost to the Jets
1997 - 13-3 lost to Denver
1995 - 13-3 lost to Indy

I'm not saying he's a bad coach, but history has shown he can't coach in the playoffs, for whatever reason.

Who knows, maybe he goes to Miami and wins it all, I doubt it.

I think he goes away or goes to TV for a few years... maybe we see him back, maybe a top team that has injuries, so the next season they have a top pick and the star players coming back from injury... it would have to be somewhere he could win fast, not a rebuild.

But who knows, there's a rumor starting that Parcells could end up in SD. Good team, (defense, running game, qb) young team, great weather, good golf... I think it's a natural fit... but who knows.

The one thing I notice about Schottenheimer is that he always seems to take over a pretty good team that was bogged down by bad coaches or unmotivated players and turns them into a better team but not a great team. He inherited some pretty good defenses in Cleveland and Kansas City and he was able to hone the skills of Drew Brees to make him a terrific QB.

It seems that Schottenheimer has been haunted by Earnest Byner's fumble more than anybody.

He really sucks in the playoffs. I said Tony Dungy story but Tony Dungy only lost in the AFC Championship and Divisional Games. But now he wins the Super Bowl. Marty Should just put that behind him. Go to another team. And in 2 years they could have a super bowl.