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Xero 02-12-2007 10:48 PM

Huge match announced for Mania, Hats required *SPOILERS*
 
At the Raw taping currently ongoing in Portland, Oregon, the stipulation for the Donald Trump vs. Vince McMahon angle at Wrestlemania 23 was announced, as the loser will have their head shaved by the winner.

From PWInsider.

The One 02-12-2007 10:50 PM

Bye Bye to Vinny Mac's locks...

Xero 02-12-2007 10:51 PM

I bet he actually has a wig cut and just puts on one of those bald head things.

KingofOldSchool 02-12-2007 10:52 PM

Vince won't make a good baldie.

SammyG 02-12-2007 10:52 PM

lol wow.

St. Jimmy 02-12-2007 10:53 PM

So, I'm selling my Mania tickets tomorrow. I'm really depressed now, WWE has let me down even beyond a point I thought they could.

The One 02-12-2007 10:53 PM

Hey, McMahon is if nothing else not a hypocrite. He expects his talent to do some of the dumbest shit and make complete jackasses out of themselves to fatten up his wallet, but at least McMahon has always lead by example and been a shinning becon of disgrace and tastless actions.

Xero 02-12-2007 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy
So, I'm selling my Mania tickets tomorrow. I'm really depressed now, WWE has let me down even beyond a point I thought they could.

I'll buy then for $5.

St. Jimmy 02-12-2007 11:00 PM

I could sell them for hundreds (or a sammich) but I'll never get my pride back.

NeanderCarl 02-12-2007 11:02 PM

I like it.

"Hair vs Hair" is one angle that has not been exhausted by WWE (not since the days of Brutus Beefcake anyway) and Vince having his head shaved (which is the inevitable outcome) is something different and new.

It's not world changing, but it's fresh. It will add a nice little angle to a WrestleMania match.

St. Jimmy 02-12-2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
I like it.

"Hair vs Hair" is one angle that has not been exhausted by WWE (not since the days of Brutus Beefcake anyway) and Vince having his head shaved (which is the inevitable outcome) is something different and new.

It's not world changing, but it's fresh. It will add a nice little angle to a WrestleMania match.

Angle lost his hair in a Hair v.s Hair match, did he not? (No, seriously - I don't remember)

Xero 02-12-2007 11:05 PM

Yeah, he did.

Angle, Molly, and Fink (?) are the only ones I can remember to lose a hair vs hair stipulation in the WWE in ten years.

Indifferent Clox 02-12-2007 11:05 PM

Having Vince's Head shaved will change the Face of wrestling forever! or at least the head!

St. Jimmy 02-12-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Yeah, he did.

Angle, Molly, and Fink (?) are the only ones I can remember to lose a hair vs hair stipulation in the WWE in ten years.

Jarrett too. X-Pac vs. Jarrett Hair vs. Hair from... SS98? I believe...

Xero 02-12-2007 11:07 PM

Yeah, Jarrett. Fink I believe was attacked by Jarrett beforehand and shaved his head, leading to the Hair vs. Hair match at SummerSlam.

Dorkchop 02-12-2007 11:10 PM

Imagine if Trump actually lost? That'd be crazy.

St. Jimmy 02-12-2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dorkchop
Imagine if Trump actually lost? That'd be crazy.

I can also imagine Jesus Christ descending from Heaven and giving me an amazing blowjob.

That's more likely than Trump losing his hair.

NeanderCarl 02-12-2007 11:13 PM

Nash also lost his hair to Jericho in a match on Raw, but Hair vs Hair stips have been very few and far between in WWE. Even during the Beefcake years, I only remember one match (Beefcake vs Outlaw Ron Bass) where the hair was actually an official match stipulation.

NeanderCarl 02-12-2007 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Angle, Molly, and Fink (?) are the only ones I can remember to lose a hair vs hair stipulation in the WWE in ten years.

Fink didn't lose his hair in a stip. Jarrett shaved it in an angle, then lost his own hair in a revenge match against X-Pac.

Xero 02-12-2007 11:15 PM

Wasn't the Mania match between Beefcake and Adonis Hair vs. Something?

Xero 02-12-2007 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
Fink didn't lose his hair in a stip. Jarrett shaved it in an angle, then lost his own hair in a revenge match against X-Pac.

Yeah, I know. I just remember him being shaved.

NeanderCarl 02-12-2007 11:16 PM

Oh and Bischoff lost his hair at Taboo Tuesday 04 against Eugene.

NeanderCarl 02-12-2007 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126
Wasn't the Mania match between Beefcake and Adonis Hair vs. Something?

It was Roddy Piper vs Adrian Adonis, Beefcake just showed up at the end for the hair cutting part. And yeah, it was Hair vs Hair (or maybe just Adonis' hair on the line, not sure which.)

Blitz 02-12-2007 11:18 PM

Note that it is not actually Trump Vs McMahon, but representatives of each man. Then whichever rep loses, their "manager" gets shaved.

NeanderCarl 02-12-2007 11:19 PM

Roddy Piper vs Adrian Adonis
Brutus Beefcake vs Outlaw Ron Bass
Jeff Jarrett vs X-Pac
Kevin Nash vs Chris Jericho
Molly Holly vs Victoria
Kurt Angle vs Edge
Eugene vs Eric Bischoff

These are the only Hair Vs Hair matches I can ever recall in WWE. Certainly not an overused gimmick anyway.

SammyG 02-13-2007 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox
Having Vince's Head changed will change the Face of wrestling forever! or at least the head!

...

Loose Cannon 02-13-2007 12:22 AM

Piper/Adonis was not hair vs hair. It was billed as Piper's retirement match.

Afterlife 02-13-2007 12:25 AM

Weak in terms of Mania.

NeanderCarl 02-13-2007 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Piper/Adonis was not hair vs hair. It was billed as Piper's retirement match.

It was also Hair vs Hair. That's why they had hairdressing equipment and a mirror at ringside.

NeanderCarl 02-13-2007 02:00 AM

It was also the reason why Brutus Beefcake became Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake. Until that night he had been one half of the Dream Team tag team. That match gave him his new gimmick.

Ironically, he was the original choice for the gay gimmick Adonis was ultimately lumbered with. So in what turned out to be the last high profile match for 'Adorable' Adrian became a new lease of life for Beefcake's career.

RP 02-13-2007 02:04 AM

Adrian Adonis was the best wrestler ever.

Indifferent Clox 02-13-2007 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SammyG
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I meant shaved! lol.

and I was being sarcastic.

Jeritron 02-13-2007 02:31 AM

I'm shocked. I went and checked results to see if you were actually serious, and you were.

Now, I don't mind this at all. Call me a moron and a mark, but I can't wait to see one of these assholes get their head shaved. Hair vs Hair always has some appeal, but when its Trump and McMahon? At least they're not wrestling eachother.

Lighten up people. Its just a stipulation. We were gonna get a match of some kind involving them, obviously with wrestlers in their corners. At least this gives it some meaning other than a pointless match with them in the corners. Its not like its the main event.

Who are their wrestlers gonna be is the question.

NeanderCarl 02-13-2007 02:41 AM

Hogan vs Shane, no doubt.

Unless you believe what Hulk "The Truth" Hogan says about no longer being with WWE.

Jeritron 02-13-2007 02:51 AM

who knows. Yea, I'd say that'd be what it would be. I wouldn't be suprised if they brought Austin in to be the Special guest enforcer since hes gonna be involved with Raw/Wrestlemania soon.

I can see Austin shaving Vince's head.

Corkscrewed 02-13-2007 03:15 AM

Interesting.

This is about as huge as the fact that Barrack Obama was educated in a Muslim school.

Rammsteinmad 02-13-2007 03:33 AM

Fucking hell I can't wait for the day we get to see another Wrestlemania that doesn't have a McMahon match/segment. Especially coz he always books his matches as one of the main events. :mad:

Jeritron 02-13-2007 03:42 AM

To be fair, its more about getting Donald Trump on the card than it is getting himself

St. Jimmy 02-13-2007 04:20 AM

Actually, this is how they're going to get Show vs. Kahli onto the card.

McMahon will be all excited that he has the fail-proof contestant in The Great Kahli and then a week before Mania will come and Trump will show his mystery wrestler and... SUPRISE. Big Show.

Corkscrewed 02-13-2007 05:12 AM

I'd much rather it be The Rock, or Chris Jericho. :lol: (I can dream)

Loose Cannon 02-13-2007 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
It was also Hair vs Hair. That's why they had hairdressing equipment and a mirror at ringside.

You're right, my bad. Just looked at the box. One of my favorite feuds/match and I don't even recall the stipulations.

KingofOldSchool 02-13-2007 09:05 AM

Mick Foley vs. Shane McMahon

NeanderCarl 02-13-2007 02:09 PM

I would have liked to see Mick Foley vs Hulk Hogan. One of the few big-name dream matches which has never taken place, along with Hogan vs Austin, but there seems to be no buzz about it or demands for it.

Any match with Hogan involved will likely be the pits anyway so why not Foley? At least he could carry the interview/hype side of it well, and possibly pull Hogan's first ever Hardcore match out of him.

Can you imagine Hogan getting slammed through a flaming table?? Or clotheslined into thumb tacks?

St. Jimmy 02-13-2007 04:05 PM

I can imagine Hogan dying and never being a ring again. That's much better than your idea. Also, It's gonna be Kahli and Show. There is no debate.

Arnold HamNegger 02-13-2007 04:22 PM

Trump/McMahon Rumors For WrestleMania 23, & More

By Matt Boone

According to Mike Johnson, it is possible that The Great Khali will wrestle ECW Champion Bobby Lashley at WrestleMania. The talk within the company now is that Donald Trump would appear in Lashley's corner while Vince McMahon would be in Khali's corner.

This is still up in the air, and may change several times. As of late, it was expected that Lashley would wrestle Hardcore Holly at WrestleMania. Before being moved to Raw, Khali was originally expected to wrestle Lashley at WrestleMania.


:mad: :nono: :foc: :wtf: :foc: :mad: :nono:

Rammsteinmad 02-13-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
Can you imagine Hogan getting slammed?? Or clotheslined?


NeanderCarl 02-13-2007 08:55 PM

:lol: good point

Blitz 02-13-2007 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger
Trump/McMahon Rumors For WrestleMania 23, & More

By Matt Boone

According to Mike Johnson, it is possible that The Great Khali will wrestle ECW Champion Bobby Lashley at WrestleMania. The talk within the company now is that Donald Trump would appear in Lashley's corner while Vince McMahon would be in Khali's corner.

This is still up in the air, and may change several times. As of late, it was expected that Lashley would wrestle Hardcore Holly at WrestleMania. Before being moved to Raw, Khali was originally expected to wrestle Lashley at WrestleMania.


:mad: :nono: :foc: :wtf: :foc: :mad: :nono:

Good lord, I think I'd actually rather see Trump vs McMahon.

Fox 02-13-2007 11:09 PM

Why do people buy into WrestleMania matches?

People bought tickets for Mania 3 in droves to see if the incredible Hulk Hogan could slam, or even defeat, the monsterous Andre the Giant, and retain his WWF Championship.

They came to Mania 12 to watch the athletic competition between two of wrestling's finest: the new generation, represented by the incomprable Shawn Michaels, and the technical old schooler, Bret Hart, in 60 Minutes for the Iron Man Match.

They watched Mania 15 to see if Steve Austin, after a year of battle, could rise victorious over Vince McMahon's dominance and his Corporate Champ, The Rock.


There is no reason to have a McMahon vs. Trump feud except to get the fucking bastard's face on TV leading up to his biggest show of the year. There's no build up and I'm willing to bet there's not a single fan out there who has any kind of emotional attachment to either man's triumph. McMahon reallly has become an idiotic egomaniac if he thinks that this feud is going to help sell tickets to Mania.

Jeritron 02-14-2007 02:08 AM

Okay dude, it's clearly unfair to gauge the others by their main event (prob the biggest 3 of all 23) , and then label a midcard match as "the reason" why people are buying tickets for this Wrestlemania. It's just unbalanced. Granted Cena/Michaels or Taker/Batista isn't the main event that Austin/Rock is

Also, I'm pretty sure very few people have bought Wrestlemania tickets knowing a single match beforehand, at least in the past 10 or so years.

NeanderCarl 02-14-2007 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jeritron5000
Okay dude, it's clearly unfair to gauge the others by their main event (prob the biggest 3 of all 23) , and then label a midcard match as "the reason" why people are buying tickets for this Wrestlemania. It's just unbalanced. Granted Cena/Michaels or Taker/Batista isn't the main event that Austin/Rock is.

Okay, not to go off on a tangent here, but Hogan vs Andre, Michaels vs Hart and Rock vs Austin are not the biggest 3 main events ever. You can argue a case for the other two, but there are many bigger matches than Hart/HBK in WrestleMania's history.

Corkscrewed 02-14-2007 07:26 AM

Man, if Lashley vs Khali is the best we're gonna get, then this Wrestlemania seriously is having NOTHING going for it (they haven't mentioned MitB, so yeah).

We might have a new "Worst. Wrestlemania. Ever."

Jeritron 02-14-2007 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NeanderCarl
Okay, not to go off on a tangent here, but Hogan vs Andre, Michaels vs Hart and Rock vs Austin are not the biggest 3 main events ever. You can argue a case for the other two, but there are many bigger matches than Hart/HBK in WrestleMania's history.

Nonetheless they're the big main events, and likening Trump Mcmahons midcard showbiz related fued to the monumental headlines of those shows is like comparing apples and oranges.

ron the dial 02-14-2007 09:42 AM

What a worthless stipulation. Seriously, I can't even imagine the depths of horrible that WM is going to reach this year if this is the pace being set.

Jeritron 02-14-2007 09:46 AM

I dont see the big deal at all. It's not the greatest thing, its in fact really lame, but at least it garners interest and is only in the midcard. It's better than Shane vs Hogan normally for no reason. I'd rather see Foley vs Shane with this stipulation, and maybe be a mark for Austin shaving Vinces head.
Because thats probably what its gonna be.

ron the dial 02-14-2007 09:49 AM

But the interest is not in the head shaving, but in the involvement of Trump. Why tack on a shitty gimmick? I understand the need to add some sort of purpose for the match, but Jesus, hair vs. hair? Trump's hair is world-renowned (maybe), so we know he's not going to lose it.

Jeritron 02-14-2007 09:53 AM

doesn't bother me

I'm more concerned about what they do with the World Title matches, what they book for second main events, and if they get the IC title and MITB on the card and such. And also what they do with the rest of the roster and the tag titles etc.

What they do with the showbiz attraction mcmahon match stipulation doesn't really bother me

ron the dial 02-14-2007 10:46 AM

If we're talking about what bothers me, then it's not going to be much of a discussion. I'm not too bothered by it, just bewildered. The same goes for most of what WWE does these days.

thedamndest 02-14-2007 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnold HamNegger
Before being moved to Raw, Khali was originally expected to wrestle Lashley at WrestleMania.

I guess we're classifying standing around throwing chops and stuff "wrestling" now. They should have Khali and Cena form a tag team and call it I Can't Believe it's Not Wrestling.

Xero 02-14-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thedamndest
I guess we're classifying standing around throwing chops and stuff "wrestling" now.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...Hulk_Hogan.jpg
Hogan: Somebody call?

Tombstone275 02-15-2007 03:20 PM

Vince is gonna win!

DAMN iNATOR 02-15-2007 05:05 PM

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Here's a couple of interesting before and after pictures of what Vince and The Donald would look like if they were both bald.:rofl: (source: detnews.com)

Xero 02-15-2007 05:12 PM

It at least sort of works for Trum. Vince looks like a cancer patient.

ron the dial 02-15-2007 06:13 PM

All Trump has to do is take his hairpiece off, so I'm not sure how much of a shaving we would see in that case.

Jeritron 02-15-2007 06:16 PM

It's clearly a combover. One of you guys should hop the barrier and just buzz his head quick. Sure you'd get roughed up and probably charged, but you'd go down as a legend not only in wrestling, but in pop culture and nationwide news.

KingofOldSchool 02-15-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR
Here's a couple of interesting before and after pictures of what Vince and The Donald would look like if they were both bald.:rofl: (source: detnews.com)


I thought Paul Bearer was Kane's dad?

Corkscrewed 02-15-2007 07:08 PM

Vince could make a decently convincing older Lex Luther.

He's prolly prepping for his future Smallville appearance. Seeing as how everyone else in the WWE seems to be making cameos.


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