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RP 03-28-2007 01:13 AM

The One, who ARE your top 50 wrestlers?
 
Since Bret Hart doesnt make your top 50. I'm rather curious.

The One 03-28-2007 01:48 AM

Not an exact order, but it's safe to assume the higher up the list, odds are the more I liked them...Also this is off the top of my head, so I may have accidentaly overlooked some people. I can safely say I would put every single one of these people (and many more honestly) over Bret.

Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Billy Gunn
Chris Jericho
Tully Blanchard
Kevin Nash
Steve Austin
Mick Foley
JBL
Roddy Piper
Harley Race
Triple H
The Rock
Ricky Steamboat
Kurt Angle
Barry Windham
Raven
Arn Anderson
Jerry Lynn
Dean Malenko
Taz
Scott Hall
Sting
Terry Funk
Rob Van Dam
Davey Boy Smith
Undertaker
Chris Benoit
Magnum TA
Eddie Guerrero
Sean Waltman
Shane Douglas
Christopher Daniels
Kerry Von Erich
Ted DiBiase
Jeff Jarrett
Juvi Guerrera
Dusty Rhodes
Scott Steiner
Road Dogg
Brian Pillman
Jerry Lawler
Sabu
Diamond Dallas Page
Chavo Guerrero
Christian
Tommy Dreamer
Randy Savage
Jimy Snuka
Sandman

RP 03-28-2007 01:56 AM

lol stfu

The One 03-28-2007 01:57 AM

Actually, that's not a bad list, I already remember Andre and Alex Shelley. But honestly, I never got into Bret. Really the only matches of his that I enjoyed were his matches with Austin and Michaels.

Funky Fly 03-28-2007 02:16 AM

Jeff Jarrett, X-pac, Road Dogg and Sandman are all ahead of Hart? WOW.

The One 03-28-2007 02:20 AM

Based on character, how much of a markish reaction they can draw from me, and matches of theirs that I've liked...yeah...they are all ahead of Hart. Truthfully, I found Bret painfully boring for most of his career.

Funky Fly 03-28-2007 02:23 AM

But the Road Dogg? Honestly... :rofl:

The One 03-28-2007 02:25 AM

Can't fault me for that. New Age Outlaws are my favorite tag team of all time. He gets on the list out of default for that alone...

Funky Fly 03-28-2007 02:28 AM

Together, sure. But separately? Hell naw.

Even now, this whole VKM thing is like shitting on what made them great.

The One 03-28-2007 02:50 AM

Yes it is. But he had 3 years with Billy that I loved. Hart had a few months with Michaels and Austin. Outside of those...negative.

Nark Order 03-28-2007 02:50 AM

Who ARE, you fucking jerk.

The One 03-28-2007 02:51 AM

Huh???

Nark Order 03-28-2007 02:54 AM

To Rectal. About the thread title.

It's like jamming scissors into my eyeballs.

The One 03-28-2007 02:55 AM

Didn't realise you were such a grammer mark.

RP 03-28-2007 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadlyheaven
To Rectal. About the thread title.

It's like jamming scissors into my eyeballs.


Why dont you jam them in our eyes so we dont have to see you post.

RP 03-28-2007 03:32 AM

Raven Tazz Juvi Guerrero? wow.

anandraval 03-28-2007 03:37 AM

this thread has been fucked up by retarded jackasses

Skippord 03-28-2007 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Raven Tazz Juvi Guerrero? wow.

Raven is the man

but Juvi what the hell Tovo

and Jarrett? Were you drunk?

Theo Dious 03-28-2007 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Didn't realise you were such a grammer mark.

And are you saying that hearing "who is your 50 favorite wrestlers" doesn't make you feel you've just been talking to a runny-nosed, 6-year-old kid rolling through the mall on a pair of those damnable Inspector Gadget roller-sneakers?

BigDaddyCool 03-28-2007 09:27 AM

How is Nash not #1

Xero 03-28-2007 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthTeedious
And are you saying that hearing "who is your 50 favorite wrestlers" doesn't make you feel you've just been talking to a runny-nosed, 6-year-old kid rolling through the mall on a pair of those damnable Inspector Gadget roller-sneakers?

Finally, someone gets it.

Theo Dious 03-28-2007 09:34 AM

He's #2. As in, he's a piece of shit.

Jordan 03-28-2007 11:19 AM

:wtf:

The One 03-28-2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord
Raven is the man

but Juvi what the hell Tovo

and Jarrett? Were you drunk?

I have always LOVED Juvi in the ring. He is by far my favorite Lucha of all time. I love that man.

As for Jarrett, my support of him has always been well known. I loved his "Don't Piss Me Off" time in WWE, and his "Chosen One" era of WCW was fantastic, IMO. This was asking me who my personal top 50 are, no where did I imply that these should be regarded as the top 50 performers ever, nor do I give a shit if you agree with anyone on the list. Remember, this list is coming from a guy who's user name is based off a gimmick Billy Gunn had. It's my personal favs, so fucking blow me if you disagree with it.:wave:

Jeritron 03-28-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly
But the Road Dogg? Honestly... :rofl:


First of all I'm gonna vouch for Road Dogg. Loved the NAO and loved Road Dogg in his singles career from 98-2000. It's not that he's Flair in the ring, it's just that during that time frame, I, like Tovo, was a mark for his character and performances. He was damn over.

But seriously, how can you tell him who entertains him and who doesn't. It's not like he's saying Bret is untalented, he just personally didn't like him.

Stickman 03-28-2007 02:28 PM

the One is just trying to be difficult.

PorkSoda 03-28-2007 02:33 PM

Bret Hart never really had any character. He was just :|

Road Dogg was :rant: :yes: :wave:

X-Pac was :naughty:

Taz was :mad: :foc:

And Lita was :eek:

^ :rofl:

Jura 03-28-2007 02:37 PM

Brock Lesnar, IMO, didn't have character and wasn't entertaining to me. I didn't really like him but I'm sure he'd be somewhere on my Top 50.

The One 03-28-2007 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman
the One is just trying to be difficult.

I'm seriously not. I just never liked Bret. Nor did I like little tag-along-not-quite-there Owen.

Stickman 03-28-2007 02:41 PM

I wasn't a huge Owen fan either but he was the goods in the ring

The One 03-28-2007 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool
How is Nash not #1

He's pretty far up the list, and like I said, that wasn't an exact order. Nash would in all honesty probably make my top 5 if I really ranked them.

Jeritron 03-28-2007 03:20 PM

I wanna name my 50 favorite performers

The One 03-28-2007 03:22 PM

OK, than officially...Jeritron (and anyone else interested) who are you top 50 personal favorite performers?

Jura 03-28-2007 03:22 PM

Be my guest.

Jeritron 03-28-2007 03:40 PM

Jericho
Shawn Michaels
Austin
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Flair
Rock
Foley
HHH
Angle
Chris Benoit
Tazz
RVD
Sabu
Mr. Perfect
Ricky Steamboat
Raven
Perry Saturn
Rey Mysterio
Randy Savage
Rick Rude
Bret Hart
Kevin Nash
Undertaker
Goldust
Road Dogg/Billy Gunn/NAO
Xpac
Edge
Christian
Lance Storm
Jeff Hardy/Matt Hardy
Kane
Booker T
DDP
Jesse The Body Ventura
Ted Dibiase
Scott Hall
Jerry Lynn
British Bulldog
Eddie Guerrero
Road Warrior Hawk & Animal
Sting
Brian Pillman
Tommy Dreamer
Samoa Joe
CM Punk
Christopher Daniels
Dudleys (2)


This was actually pretty thrown together, I think its 50...

Mercury Bullet 03-28-2007 03:49 PM

^ Good lists. I think I might leave Hart out too, or he would be 45-50, not anywhere near the top.

Mercury Bullet 03-28-2007 04:01 PM

I dont think I can pick a #1...So here's Top 5 all bracketed together...

1-5. Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Rob Van Dam, Christopher Daniels, The Rock
6. Steve Austin
7. Ric Flair
8. Chris Jericho
9. Sting
10. Booker T
11. Brian Pillman
12. Hulk Hogan (even though I'm not too fond of him anymore, cant deny what he once was)
13. Kevin Nash
14. Scott Hall
15. Ricky Steamboat
16. Lance Storm
17. The Undertaker
18. Mick Foley
19. DDP
20. Sabu
21. Jerry Lynn
22. Piper
23. Taz(z)
24. Curt Henning
25. Goldberg (another guy that was the sh*t in his prime)
26. Kurt Angle
27. Edge
28. Eddie Guerrero
29. Alex Shelley
30. Samoa Joe
31. AJ Styles
32. Christian (Cage)
33. Jeff Hardy
34. Ravishing Rick Rude
35. Raven
36. CM Punk
37. Senshi
38. Rey Mysterio Jr.
39. Greg/Shane Helms
40. Matt Hardy
41. X-Pac
42. Chris Benoit
43. Perry Saturn
44. Tommy Dreamer
45. Bret Hart
46. Kane
47. Road Dogg
48. Dean Malenko
49. Billy Gunn
50. Billy Kidman

Mercury Bullet 03-28-2007 04:03 PM

^ That is a very rough ranking, If i was asked to list it again in 10 minutes without seeing my old list I would probably have the same people but in a little different order. Its very difficult for me to say who is exactly where.

The Show Off 03-28-2007 05:44 PM

I personally cannot see how one can not have Bret Hart in their top 50 wrestlers of all time, but I'm not about to argue about it. All I wanted to hear was your top 50, and you did it so more props to you for putting your money where your mouth is. Completely don't agree with you on most of those people being above Bret Hart, but thats your list not mine.

Stickman 03-28-2007 05:56 PM

How can guys put Sandman, Styles, CM pUnk, Samoa Joe and even Lance Storm above Bret?

Jeritron 03-28-2007 06:07 PM

Because we felt like it. I didn't put anyone above Bret, he was easily in my top 50. Mine wasn't ordered.
But its personal favorites based on entertainment, some people chose not to list Bret OMGZZ. Get over it.

bigpoppapump 03-29-2007 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Not an exact order, but it's safe to assume the higher up the list, odds are the more I liked them...Also this is off the top of my head, so I may have accidentaly overlooked some people. I can safely say I would put every single one of these people (and many more honestly) over Bret.

Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Billy Gunn ----------- You're High, I don't see Chuck anywhere???
Chris Jericho
Tully Blanchard
Kevin Nash ---------- You're Retarded
Steve Austin
Mick Foley
JBL
Roddy Piper
Harley Race
Triple H
The Rock
Ricky Steamboat
Kurt Angle
Barry Windham
Raven
Arn Anderson
Jerry Lynn
Dean Malenko
Taz ----------------- WTF?
Scott Hall ----------- LMAO
Sting
Terry Funk
Rob Van Dam
Davey Boy Smith
Undertaker
Chris Benoit
Magnum TA
Eddie Guerrero
Sean Waltman ------------ UNFUCKINREAL
Shane Douglas
Christopher Daniels
Kerry Von Erich
Ted DiBiase
Jeff Jarrett --------------- You're Drunk
Juvi Guerrera ------------- Where's El Dandy or La Parka????
Dusty Rhodes
Scott Steiner
Road Dogg --------------- FUCKIN KIDDING RIGHT?
Brian Pillman
Jerry Lawler
Sabu
Diamond Dallas Page ------ DIAMOND DALLAS TRASH?????
Chavo Guerrero
Christian
Tommy Dreamer
Randy Savage
Jimy Snuka
Sandman

-------- OMG


No Hogan Either??? Probably just "slipped" your mind. If not, you fuckin really took a huge shit on that list. IMO. :foc:

Jura 03-29-2007 12:30 AM

lol He hates Hogan with a passion but really, lol @ Sandman.

Jeritron 03-29-2007 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpoppapump
-------- OMG


No Hogan Either??? Probably just "slipped" your mind. If not, you fuckin really took a huge shit on that list. IMO. :foc:


I'm not trying to come off as Tovo's sworn protector, but seriously. What the FUCK don't you people get about "your top 50 personal favorites"
It could be all people who wrestled on heat for all anyone cares, it's his personal favorites. There's no right answer. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean someone can't list them as a personal favorite based on their own entertainment.
If someone said "Over the years, Kurgann has entertained me more than Ric Flair" would they be wrong? I'd disagree with them personally based on my preferences, but since it's not gauging ability, status, accomplishments, recognition, drawing ability or anything tangible, you can't fault any answer. It's personal enjoyment.
Not to mention the thread was called for him to do so and he did.

Jeritron 03-29-2007 12:40 AM

It's also harder than you may think to list 50 favorite wrestlers. The list begins to wear thin at some point, so if you honestly think it's absurd to list the likes of Hall, Nash, Tazz, NAO and DDP in that list, I'd like to see yours.

I wouldn't critcize it, but lets see it. Trust me, you'll be able to fall prey to your own mockery once you get to the 30-50 mark because very few are as beloved as The Rock and HBK.

bigpoppapump 03-29-2007 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
What the FUCK don't you people get about "your top 50 personal favorites"

I "get" the whole thing but some on that list are outright absurd.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
There's no right answer. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean someone can't list them as a personal favorite based on their own entertainment.

He/she can post whoever they want. I disagree with some of them. That's why we are having this discussion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
If someone said "Over the years, Kurgann has entertained me more than Ric Flair" would they be wrong?

Hell yeah they would be wrong. Why? Simply put, they would be in the minority. Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word......... foolish may suit them better.

Skippord 03-29-2007 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
I have always LOVED Juvi in the ring. He is by far my favorite Lucha of all time. I love that man.

As for Jarrett, my support of him has always been well known. I loved his "Don't Piss Me Off" time in WWE, and his "Chosen One" era of WCW was fantastic, IMO. This was asking me who my personal top 50 are, no where did I imply that these should be regarded as the top 50 performers ever, nor do I give a shit if you agree with anyone on the list. Remember, this list is coming from a guy who's user name is based off a gimmick Billy Gunn had. It's my personal favs, so fucking blow me if you disagree with it.:wave:

Come over :naughty:

Juvi is the man in the ring though

Gunn and Jarrett still suck

bigpoppapump 03-29-2007 02:01 AM

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.........

Is this list supposed to be Top 50 or Favorite 50.......

If it's top 50.......... that list is shit. Agree??? I thought so.
Favorite 50........... I guess all we can do is rag on them for their opinions.

RP 03-29-2007 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Bret Hart doesn't make my top 50 wrestlers. I'm so dead serious. So no, I don't think he was the best ever, at any point. As far as soley what happens inbetween the bells, I'm sorry, but for my dollar, no one can ever touch Shawn Michaels. In general, Flair is the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.


Which i was basically asking for him to name the 50 wrestlers he thinks were better then Bret Hart. It's very clearly stated in the topic " top 50 "

bigpoppapump 03-29-2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder
Which i was basically asking for him to name the 50 wrestlers he thinks were better then Bret Hart. It's very clearly stated in the topic " top 50 "

If that list is his "top 50 wrestlers better than Bret"..... Then TheOne is complete fucking toolbag.

I think that list is more of his favs than top 50. Hell lets ask him....

Which is it One???? Fav 50 or Top 50???

The One 03-29-2007 12:16 PM

It's my Top 50.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Bret Hart doesn't make my top 50 wrestlers.

Hence why there isn't a Hogan or a Hart in sight. Once again...

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
This was asking me who my personal top 50 are, no where did I imply that these should be regarded as the top 50 performers ever, nor do I give a shit if you agree with anyone on the list.

Jesus Christ, some of you fucking retards need to learn to read. It's not that hard, and yet so many people on this forum can't seem to do it right. Had it asked me to list THE Top 50 Wrestlers, I would of course include Bret and Hogan, despite my apathy for all things Hart and my loathing of all things Hogan (infact both would rank fairly high). But it didn't, it asked me for my top 50, I gave 'em, you saw 'em. And I'm sorry, but being that I've been a fan of Professional Wrestling for 20 years and have worked the indies, I truly don't give a shit what someone online thinks of who I have and havn't gotten enjoyment out of over the years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
It's my personal favs, so fucking blow me if you disagree with it.:wave:


D Mac 03-29-2007 02:06 PM

1-50: SID!

bigpoppapump 03-29-2007 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
It's my Top 50.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
It's my personal favs, so fucking blow me if you disagree with it.

You're fuckin clueless aren't you??? I am now for reading and replying to this mess.

There is a HUGE difference between Your Top 50 and Your Favorite 50. For instance, Your Favorite 50 doesn't include Hart or Hogan. On the other hand, Your Top 50 Should include Hart and Hogan.

Bottom line, that is YOUR FAVORITE 50 and with some of those chosen, ALOT of us disagree. That's the fun of it!!!!

Zen v.W.o. 03-29-2007 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Actually, that's not a bad list, I already remember Andre and Alex Shelley. But honestly, I never got into Bret. Really the only matches of his that I enjoyed were his matches with Austin and Michaels.


OK, say they are your faves, or preferred wrestlers, not those who are actually better than him.

And if you already have, sorry but I didnt read that yet obviously. And if so, still..how can anyone like some of those guys?

The One 03-29-2007 09:09 PM

Jesus Christ, are you fuckers retarded?!?! How could it be MY list, if it didn't include people who I like? The list is who I like, not who you like. So get the fuck off my dick.

Whatever, I'm done coming in this thread...talk about whatever you want from this point forward, but FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME, THIS IS MY LIST OF WHO I LIKE, NOT WHO SHOULD BE REGARDED AS THE BEST OF ALL TIME.

Juan 03-29-2007 09:28 PM

I stopped reading your list as soon as I saw Billy Gunn...

Nothing personal...

bigpoppapump 03-29-2007 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuracanRana
I stopped reading your list as soon as I saw Billy Gunn...

Nothing personal...

Oh, keep reading if you need to put a smile on your face.

Kane Knight 03-29-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly
Jeff Jarrett, X-pac, Road Dogg and Sandman are all ahead of Hart? WOW.

He's either being obstinant, or he's batshit fucking crazy.

FourFifty 03-30-2007 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Not an exact order, but it's safe to assume the higher up the list, odds are the more I liked them...Also this is off the top of my head, so I may have accidentaly overlooked some people. I can safely say I would put every single one of these people (and many more honestly) over Bret.

Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels
Billy Gunn
Chris Jericho

Well from your top 4, only one of them is goddamn waste of time.

Bad Company 03-30-2007 06:11 AM

Those of you giving him a hard time should STFU, it's his list. Shit, Bret Hart probably wouldn't make my top 50 Either if we're looking at my opinion, and the total package, not just technical prowess.


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