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Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:05 PM

Fuck Matt Hardy
 
What's the allure? He's boring and bland. He has stupid pants. He's bow-legged. Why does he have so many fans?

I enjoyed him during the Mattitude era, and when he was trying to cut weight to become a cruiser, but THAT'S IT.

Somebody make me a Matt Hardy fan.

The One 04-23-2007 05:07 PM

Nah, Hardy sucks. I can't convince you to like someone who's biggest success comes from being the older less cool brother of a guy who has seisures and falls of ladders.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:09 PM

He always seems to get a pretty big pop, though.

I remember the last Smackdown I went to, it felt like he got the biggest pop of the night. I was truly befuddled.

The One 04-23-2007 05:11 PM

His ex girlfriend cheated on him with his best friend, it's like 95% sympathy pop and 5% of a "Hey I could totally be that guy!" pop.

Kane Knight 04-23-2007 05:12 PM

What's there to sell on? If he was the Old Hardy Boys Matt, or the V1/Mattitude Matt, or something pre-Amy Dumas, I'd be slobbering up for some fellatio, but the guy's been boring as fuck for ages now.

Funky Fly 04-23-2007 05:12 PM

I don't want to fuck Matt Hardy, I want to fuck your heart. :mad:

McLegend 04-23-2007 05:13 PM

Nah Hardy is real over with people even though despite all of the times he has been buried and jobbed out. I think that says a lot about Matt Hardy right there.

Matt Hardy has always been over and puts on decent matches.

I like Matt Hardy.

SammyG 04-23-2007 05:14 PM

V1 UHHHHHHHHHHHHH

PepperCarrotMan 04-23-2007 05:15 PM

Its okay not to like Matt Hardy. As long as you love Bobby Lashley and John Cena...

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:17 PM

I understand that Matt Hardy IS over. I just don't understand WHY he is over. Just for 'decent matches'? Really?

Jeritron 04-23-2007 05:19 PM

It's not really brain surgery. He's over for the same reason Jeff is, they were in the Hardy Boys. The fans love that and they loved them, and still do.

Blitz 04-23-2007 05:20 PM

Agreed, he's quite boring now. When he was V1 he was great.

I miss the Matt Facts :(

Destor 04-23-2007 05:21 PM

That's really all he does have going for him. Decent matches. SO lets just say he has charisma and move on. k?

McLegend 04-23-2007 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I understand that Matt Hardy IS over. I just don't understand WHY he is over. Just for 'decent matches'? Really?

He's got charisma, and comes across as very likeable.

Also it looks like he always trys real hard to.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:22 PM

MATT HAS NEVER LOCKED HIS KEYS IN HIS CAR
MATT HATES MUSTARD

The One 04-23-2007 05:22 PM

Tovo Facts > Mattitude Facts

V1.0 was boring in general.

Jeritron 04-23-2007 05:22 PM

If anyone wonders why Matt and Jeff Hardy are over, I wonder if they were familiar with the WWE product and the team known as the Hardy Boys circa 2000.
Some things stay over.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:22 PM

I beg to differ. He doesn't have charisma. Whenever they give him a mic, I want to punch myself in the dick, just for a more pleasureable experience.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:23 PM

Of course he looks like he tries hard. He HAS to try hard because he's fucking bow-legged.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:23 PM

Zach Gowan tried pretty hard, too.

Destor 04-23-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I beg to differ. He doesn't have charisma. Whenever they give him a mic, I want to punch myself in the dick, just for a more pleasureable experience.

Please explain how him not being wortha fuck on the mic has anything to do with him not haivng charisma.

McLegend 04-23-2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I beg to differ. He doesn't have charisma. Whenever they give him a mic, I want to punch myself in the dick, just for a more pleasureable experience.

He has natural Charisma.

Jeritron 04-23-2007 05:25 PM

People who think mic skills = charisma and vice versa need to learn

The One 04-23-2007 05:25 PM

He gets a C- in charisma. An F in mic skills and a D+ in ring skills. Total, he's a peice of crap who got over because his brother was willing to take big bumps.

Destor 04-23-2007 05:26 PM

I'd give him a B- in charisma.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:26 PM

I've always thought charisma and mic skill had a pretty close tie.

Jeritron 04-23-2007 05:26 PM

maybe so. But that is still WHY he is over. The Hardy Boys.

Jeritron 04-23-2007 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I've always thought charisma and mic skill had a pretty close tie.

common misconception. They're not really related.

e.g. Bobby Lashley
oozes charisma
has terrible mic skills

Destor 04-23-2007 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I've always thought charisma and mic skill had a pretty close tie.

They have nothing to do with each other. Terribly common misconception.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:27 PM

Give me an example of somebody who has excellent mic skills and zero charisma.

McLegend 04-23-2007 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I've always thought charisma and mic skill had a pretty close tie.

They do, but it goes deeper.

Brock Leasner is a peferct example of that.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:29 PM

Well fair enough, but either way, I don't think Matt Hardy has much of either.

The One 04-23-2007 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
common misconception. They're not really related.

e.g. Bobby Lashley
oozes charisma
has terrible mic skills

Bobby Lashley oozes charisma??? That's it, your ability to judge charisma is revoked.

McLegend 04-23-2007 05:31 PM

Yes Booby Lashley has no charisma what so ever.

Another great example of poor mic skills and excellent charisma is Goldberg.

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:32 PM

But are there any examples of excellent mic skills and no charisma?

McLegend 04-23-2007 05:33 PM

Nope not that I can think of.

Stickman 04-23-2007 05:35 PM

I agree with ABT here. Matt Hardy is overrated.

The One 04-23-2007 05:35 PM

Steve Corino has some good mic skills, but no real charisma.

Jeritron 04-23-2007 05:36 PM

Lashley doen't ooze charisma. But he has it. I only used him because he first came to mind as somebody with charisma and no mic skills.

How about, Benoit. Or Jeff Hardy in some ways.

Kane Knight 04-23-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One
Knight Facts > Tovo Facts > Mattitude Facts


Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 05:42 PM

I dunno, I'm gonna continue to equate the two.

Kane Knight 04-23-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
Lashley doen't ooze charisma. But he has it. I only used him because he first came to mind as somebody with charisma and no mic skills.

How about, Benoit. Or Jeff Hardy in some ways.

I gave an example of charisma and the big man in another thread. Most big men are more physical presence than actual charisma. I feel Lashley is a prime example of this, because he's big, but his charisma is limited.

Destor 04-23-2007 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I dunno, I'm gonna continue to equate the two.

Feel free dude. I dont care if you're wrong.

PepperCarrotMan 04-23-2007 06:03 PM

Fuck Matt Hardy.

http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f3...th_LitaWWE.jpg

Lita (in Bobby Lashley's voice) : NO!

Anybody Thrilla 04-23-2007 06:04 PM

I'm not wrong about Matt Hardy, I'll tell you that.

Destor 04-23-2007 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
I'm not wrong about Matt Hardy, I'll tell you that.

I hear that.

BigDaddyCool 04-23-2007 06:24 PM

I'm not going to say fuck Matt Hardy, but he is a midcarder for life.

IC Champion 04-23-2007 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Of course he looks like he tries hard. He HAS to try hard because he's fucking bow-legged.

LeBron James is Bow-Legged

Shadow 04-23-2007 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron
Some things stay over.

That about sums it up.

Anybody Thrilla 04-24-2007 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Instant Classic
LeBron James is Bow-Legged

So he'd probably be a shitty wrestler.

Mr. Nerfect 04-24-2007 09:07 AM

Matt Facts > Scientific Facts > Tovo Facts > Widely Disputed Facts

That's the natural order of things. Sorry, Tovo.

Matt Hardy is a fucking ring general. How people can give him a D+ in ring skills is just absurd. He's not the best thing ever, but he's more than competent. I'd give him B+ in terms of ring skills. Actually, I'd say he crossed over into A- territory long ago.

His mic skils may be a failing grade, but he has charisma. Anyone who experienced Mattitude knows that. The guy got over for a reason. Plus his pants are awesome.

Matt Hardy's Report Card:

Ring Skills: A-
Mic Skills: C-
Charisma: B+

All in all, Matt Hardy comes up looking pretty solid.

Kane Knight 04-24-2007 10:46 AM

Alienoid, have you ever considered that the sheer number of people who don't think so might tell you something?

Doc Brown 04-24-2007 10:54 AM

Matt Hardy is an odd subject for sure, because he has just been around for so damn long.

Almost sounds to me, like he gets pops because people simply know the name.

He's nothing special in the ring, but he's not anything horrible to watch.

Vastardikai 04-25-2007 02:47 AM

Matt is over because he's a Sympathetic Character.

That's it.

loosecollector 04-25-2007 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Give me an example of somebody who has excellent mic skills and zero charisma.

John Cena... to some?

M-A-G 04-25-2007 06:34 AM

Nah, I'd say someone like Arn Anderson.

Anybody Thrilla 04-25-2007 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loosecollector
John Cena... to some?

John Cena's got tons of charisma, no matter how you define it.

Kane Knight 04-25-2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai
Matt is over because he's a Sympathetic Character.

That's it.

So you don't think the Hardyz has anything to do with it?

Matt will always be at least slightly over due to being from the LEgendary Hr-D Boiz.

loosecollector 04-26-2007 03:04 AM

he's a better wrestler than Jeff... that should count :D.

dude extreme 04-26-2007 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
What's the allure? He's boring and bland. He has stupid pants. He's bow-legged. Why does he have so many fans?

I enjoyed him during the Mattitude era, and when he was trying to cut weight to become a cruiser, but THAT'S IT.

Somebody make me a Matt Hardy fan.

Lol I remember Matt Hardy being pinned by Zach Gowen during the Mattitude Era.

Vastardikai 04-26-2007 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight
So you don't think the Hardyz has anything to do with it?

Matt will always be at least slightly over due to being from the LEgendary Hr-D Boiz.

Granted, I was being facetous when I said that he was Sympathetic being the ONLY reason why he was over.

Seriously, having the ability to make people relate to/feel sorry for you isn't a bad thing in this business.

Being of half of the Hardyz is a big reason as well, in all honesty.


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