Spider-Man 3
 

Expectations. Discussions. Reviews. Let's go.

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Comes out May the 3rd over here.

EAT IT!!!!

We needed a 500th Spider-Man 3 topic. Thanks.

It officially comes out May 4th....

But basically every theater is holding midnight showings on Thursday

This is the Spider-Man 3 topic so EAT IT!!!!

Who is so gay they line up to see a movie a few hours earlier? Jesus Christ.

I don't do it, myself. I imagine those crowds are terrible people to watch a movie with. I go in the daytime when things are more calm.

Speaking of which, the bonus DVD that comes along with the new 2.1 edition of Spider-Man includes info on Venom, evidently. Remember when those fucktards were going aroud saying "THEY'RE SMART! YOU DONN'T HYPE THE END OF THE MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

So...Can we just call them morons for this?

me.... :shifty:

I plan on seeing it with a crowd and without a crowd.

Seeing it with a crowd sometimes makes the movie better...just to hear the crowd reaction...many people might not like it but to see something big happen and then suddenly hear a huge "Fuck Yeah" yelled from the crowd actually makes it better for me.

Just for a quick reference I will mention X3....went to the midnight showing of that...kicked so much ass with a crowd...then after I saw it with a small crowd with no real reaction I realized that it wasnt as great as I thought.

Seriously cannot wait for this.

Definitely going to this.

Can't wait either. Although I'll wait for a few days when there aren't as many people. I hate sitting in crowded cinemas.

Also, this is the first film I've seen at a theater since X-Men 2.

I have no worries about how good this movie is gonna fucking rule, for me anyway. The ONLY thing I want, is that it does indeed end on a note for a continuation, and with very good quality in the execution of such a notion.

There are sheep, and there are those who are lead by sheep.

You aspire to one day be the latter.

I'll probably go see this. The week Pirates 3: At World's End hits theatres so I could have the whole theatre to myself.

So Spider-Man gets the black costume and grows a fringe? What, the motherfuckers turned him emo?

Can't fuckin wait. I just watched the Spiderman Animated Series Venom Saga from the old fox kids saturday morning cartoon. Such classic shit. Picked it up at Best Buy for 10 bucks

ehhh...doesnt offend me any...couldnt give a shit if they lead me off a cliff

Well it offically comes out May 3rd here, which is May 2nd in America.


I STILL WIN!!!!!!

I thought the first 2 sucked so i'll just download it

While you're watching Saim Raimi's Spider-Man 3, look out for the proverbial kitchen sink, and even the cuddly toy from TV's Generation Game; everything's been thrown at this movie. Some of it hits the target (the CGI, the action), but crucial parts don't (the script, the pacing, half of the subplots).

The film opens with life all hunky dory for Peter Parker (Tobey Maguire) and M.J. (Kirsten Dunst); Spider-Man's got celebrity status in New York and M.J. is a working actress. However, domestic bliss doesn't last long. A meteor crashes to Earth and black alien slime, the symbiote that will cause so much havoc, makes a beeline for our hero who inadvertently takes the stuff home.

And the troubles pile up: on the run from the cops, small-time crook Flint Marko (Thomas Hayden Church) meets with an accident and becomes Spidey's formidable foe, The Sandman. Then there's New Goblin, alter ego of Peter Parker's best friend Harry Osborn (James Franco).

When Harry isn't busy trying to kill Spidey and avenge his father's death, he's wooing M.J. But that's not the only romantic entanglement. Y'see there's Gwen Stacy (Bryce Dallas Howard - stunning as a blonde), Peter Parker's hot lab partner who not only ignites M.J.'s jealously, but also attracts Eddie Brock's interest (Topher Grace). Who's Eddie?

Well, he's a photographer at the Daily Bugle involved in a not-very-friendly rivalry with Peter Parker. In the wrong place at the wrong time, he changes into deadly opponent Venom and joins the ever-lengthening queue of Spidey haters.

Are you with me so far? Who'd blame you if you weren't because Spider-Man 3's first hour plays like a soap opera thanks to the self-indulgent, run-of-the-mill script: love triangles, familial secrets, relationship woes - there's even good ol' amnesia.

A pity a more sizeable chunk of the reported $250 million budget didn't go towards a decent screenplay. Far too many characters are squeezed into the bum-numbing 140 minutes and most of them suffer from a woeful lack of development as a direct result: Gwen Stacy abruptly disappears; Eddie Brock's back story is thinner than a size zero model; Harry's butler Bernard appears from nowhere to save Spidey's skin with a hackneyed disclosure and a revelation centring around Flint Marko and Spidey's Uncle Ben is so contrived, it would insult even the limited intelligence of yer average WAG.

A huge bone of contention is the symbiote which supposedly unleashes great inner conflict within Peter Parker, bringing out his dark, vengeful side. However, the movie largely chooses to convey this by paying homage to Saturday Night Fever; see Petey strut! See Petey dance! See Petey wear a snazzy suit! See Petey hit on the chicks! It's a fun sequence at first, but it drags on too long and it's not exactly evil Superman getting jiggy with Lorelei Ambrosia, is it? The closest Peter Parker comes to that is demanding biscuits from Ursula (the fabulously kooky girl in his building).

I lost count of the superfluous plots and subplots that really should've been cut. Numerous pointless scenes take valuable time away from essential ones (Harry and M.J. doing the twist to Chubby Checker while cooking an omelette - what the heck was that about?). A perfect example of this is Eddie Brock/Venom's fate; he should've been one of the best villains to grace a superhero film as he matches Spider-Man's powers in every way.

Instead, he's treated almost as an afterthought. Eddie Brock/Venom was crying out for his own movie and what happens to him in Spider-Man 3 is nothing short of a disgrace.

Poor pacing sees a slow build-up to a rushed ending, but at least there are fine performances from the likes of James Franco (superb as Harry Osborn); Thomas Hayden Church (who brings real melancholic depth to his villain-with-a-heart); J. K. Simmons (hilarious but underused as J. Jonah Jameson); Bryce Dallas Howard (far better than the part she's given) and Bruce Campbell (in his customary cameo, this time as a French maître d' who's a cross between Basil Fawlty and Inspector Clouseau). The two leads are also good, however both were better in the previous movies.

Yes, the action set-pieces and CGI is often stunning (The Sandman's 'birth' will make your jaw drop), but after the incredibly high standards set by Spider-Man, and especially Spider-Man 2, this third entry is a disappointment. It's still an entertaining movie, just not a great one. In Star Wars original trilogy-speak, Spider-Man 2 is The Empire Strikes Back: darker, edgier, more emotionally mature. Spider-Man 3 is Return Of The Jedi, right down to the musical interludes. It only needed an Ewok or two…

If excess equalled success, Spider-Man 3 would be a triumph on all levels. Instead, it's the most flawed of the franchise.

How did I know they were going to tush this?

GWEN STACY? :wtf:

Atleast it will lead in the box office for a week....

Shrek will knock it out of the top and if that doesnt work then POTC 3 will destroy this

I can't say I'm disappointed.

Don't get me wrong; I'll see Spidery opening weekend. It's just Pirates is the one movie I'm itching to see, and I really think it deserves the top spot. Shrek's going to pretty much deliver what the last two did, and Spider-Man will be on par with the last two.

I mean, for all the flaws that the reviewer complained of, they were mostly present in the previous two, which he seemed to like. Plot holes and logic that's insulting to everyone but the OEC club and a dozen of Bush's closest friends. Raimi's a B-movie director with a large budget. The movies, while decent, ain't exactly the stunning masterpieces people tend to expect.

But kung fu, explosions, and Matrix-esque effects will make it a solid summer movie.

The Spiderman franchise has been done phenomenally IMO. Raimis a B-movie director with a large budget...well, that is true I suppose, but who else isn't? Peter Jackson and Spielberg are too. Gore Verbinski isn't exactly the best.

I do like Pirates, but I'm not really excited for Pirates 3, because I was in a lot of ways dissapointed with part 2. It's also pissed me off that Pirates has been shoved down my throat everywhere I turn and look for the past year. That's just my opinion, of course you can enjoy and anticipate any movie you want just as I can. I'm sure Pirates and Spidey will both bring in big money, and it will be interesting to see who has a better Summer. Probably Pirates because of the kiddies and Disney.

I'd argue on Spielberg, but even if I argued in favor of any or none of them, that's a poor defense.

Spider-Man has been rather decent, but please. When pro wrestling logic makes more sense than your logic, you lose any right to the phrase "phenomenal." The entire series comes off as rushed, and not for those stupid "how do you expect it to translate into a movie?" Excuses. Those are bullshit. Comic books have 2 dimensional characters, and the movies still can't capture the depth of an inherrently shallow genre. That's poor storytelling. And I think that they ran out of time when they came up with the "self confidence" idea.

I'm not exactly sure how pirates have been shoved down our throats this year, any more than previously, but whatever floats your boat.

Going to see the 12:01 am showing Friday morning

Jesus dude, I just wanted to disagree with you in thinking that Spiderman is superior to Pirates. It's my opinion. No need to attack me and my credibility and bring up wrestling discussion which has nothing to do with this. Chill out. I can call what ever I damn well please phenomenal, and you don't have a chokehold on logic bro.

Jesus, aren't you the oversensitive little bitch?

"It was just my opinion" so why are you being so hostile? :'(

Anyway, the real reason I came to this thread was the ad I just saw that advertised that Venom is coming, and proceeded to show several shots. Mostily stuff we've seen before, but still.

Watching it either tonight or tomorrow night, with emphasis on tomorrow night. WOOHOO theater working.

My local theater is dedicating 6 screens to this alone. Not even icluding the IMAX screen. Ridiculous.

WHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOKED for saturday night, I imagine I'll be blunced out of my fucking skull before hand I can't wait.

For those interested....my friend sent me a link to this..

http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/spiderman3.html

Spoils the movie...for those who dont care to see it....

Havnt looked at it yet in hopes to be surprised...

I don't see how a reviewer can say there are too many storylines to follow while complaining that the movie needed a better screenplay. Shut up. It's an action movie and you're trying too hard to make this deep.

I really hope Raimi makes all 6 films, with Maguire and Dunst in all of them. Would make the whole story as credible and significant, and put the whole franchise on par, if not more on a personal level with the Star Wars saga.

Yes...Those two ARE mutually exclusivve. :roll:

Having 6 movies doesn't automatically make you on par with the Star Wars saga. Having a trilogy doesn't either. Anytime a continuing series comes along, it gets labled or compared as the "next Star Wars". Star Wars is Star Wars and that's that. There can be other film series with the same amount of installments, or even with a similar release schedule and anticipation as Star Wars, but nothing will be the next Star Wars. Everyone said the Matrix would be, and then Lord of The Rings. Now people say Harry Potter and Pirates of the Carribean, and Spiderman. They've all been tremendously successful and hugely popular, but nothing like Star Wars was in it's time.
Bottom line is it's all just film franchises that are what they are, and have some similarities in their structure and release and public perception. But those similarities are because Star Wars set the bar and is the basis of comparison for any series to follow. None of it is the next Star Wars.

Except Star Wars. :shifty:

Saw it last night. It's bloated and cheesy. The dialogue is almost George Lucasian.

Did not like it too much.

Sounds like a comic book movie. How dare they treat Spiderman as such

Be fair. No comic book is as cheesey as Star Wars.

fair enough. Cheesiness doesn't neccesarily mean bad, it depends on the genre. If a drama movie is cheesy as hell unintentionally, no good. If a comic book or action/adventure based on old saturday morning serials is, it's fitting it's genre. Fanboys who think they know their shit want Star Wars and Spiderman films to suddenly be treated and directed as though they were going for an academy award.

Scorcese isn't gonna be brought on to direct your beloved summer blockbusters because that's not what they're going for, they're going for the demographic that people were in when they fell in love with that franchise. You guessed it, kids. And kids don't wanna see great dialouge, so we get "Lucasian" dialouge and not Obi Wan and Anakin smoking cigarettes waxing intellectual at a cofee shop a la Tarontino.

By cheesy, I meant ridiculously so that you are unable to take the movie seriously and it is difficult to watch.

The problem is, people treat Raimi like he's a genius, when he's really not. So they're already putting their precious popcorn flick up on a pedestal as though it were directed by someone in the major panthenon of filmmaking.

That being said, I think CoE, who likes Cheesy slasher flicks and Tarrantino, probably didn't go in expecting it to be a masterpiece of cinematic brilliance. I'd therefor ask myself what would make him think it was cheesey and bloated, and think that maybe for the genre, it was bad.

That doesn't mean I trust him unconditionally, or believe him to be the best source. Sure as fuck don't mean I'm gonna skip it. I mean, I already kinda expect it not to live up to the hype. As I said previously, the logic in that last Spider-Man was so horrible it made wrestling look Machiavellian.

I also have to say, and this is another repeat, the movies are not like the comics. Someone who is expecting comic book dialogue doesn't get it. There is less depth to the movie franchise than to the comic series. On top of that, they fail to capture the action, banter, and overall raison d'être of Spider-Man. I mean, I grew up on the comics. Hell, my father had a collection from some of the earliest Amazgins, and had all the old Spectaculars (Peter Parker), and I followed the comics until like 2000 or so. I still read some here and there. And honestly, when you can't hack the depth of a comic book, I'm disappointed.

OK there seems to be a certain type of thought process in this forum and it create a fucked up message whenever they are said.

What I meant about the whole next 'big saga' like star wars statement - I didn't literally mean it in all its seriousness. More TO ME, in my opinion. The story of Spiderman, the messages of power, responsibility and the way Raimi has presented it on screen, the actors, hell even the score, TO ME its only got to half way of a bigger story, something even quite profound.

Of course it cannot replace SW, but to me its the platform for ONE OF THE greatest stories ever told. Thats my opinion.

But if they made the 6, and each one simply got better, and the entire 6 created such a story arc that it really impressed enough people in the same way, I would actually go as far to say it would compete with the recognition Star Wars has. As good as a story/films they are. Let's be honest, the newer ones sucked. Except for Sith I guess, that was pretty good.

At the end of the day, to each is own.

Eragon is the next Star Wars.

I remember you said you liked it, or liked the books and was gonna watch it. I really can't see the appeal. My main reason was that I said I would never watch another film with Jeremy Irons in a film that had dragons. I actually said that after I watched D&D, yet had no idea that would actually come about to happen again.

I dunno, I don't like the look of the kid's acting or the CGI of the dragon as a baby. It just gave me a real bad vibe. Apart from that I should give it a chance. But prob won't.

The man that created Evil Dead is a genius to me.... :y:

I dont even care about the Spiderman movies when his name is mentioned. The only reason I would even say Spiderman when referring to Raimi is because barely anyone has seen the Evil Dead series.

I specifically said it because it LITERALLY is the next Star Wars. It comes from the same mold.

Not because it was good. In fact, the movie sucked ass. Not because it's different from the books, but because it's shitty storytelling. But it's Very Much Star Wars. Check the Eragon thread, because someone made a HUGE in depth post on it. I don't care to overanalyse that shit. But it wasn't a statement of quality. Let's face it though: Lucas made a series that is priceless to so many because of concepts that are not Unique, storytelling elements which are appealing on some visceral level.

Paolini did the same thing. He drew from elements of Tolkien and Lucas, who each drew on elements of others...

:lol:

Yes, Shaggy. Evil Dead is a precious undiscovered cult treasure that only you and 6 other people on the planet know about.

7 other people.

Yea except the fact that it's so famous for being a cult flick that it has trancended that and become pretty mainstream. I know it's the trendy thing, but when the posters and tshirts are available at every store in the mall, and there's multiple special edition dvds, video games, action figures etc. , it's not such an underground hidden gem. Doesn't lessen how good the movie or it's hardcore fans are, but I'm just saying. So many things have a cult following at this point that they've bascially grown to low level mainstream.
It's like when non-conformity and all that shit becomes so cool, that it becomes the conformity. Like emo and shit, it's not underground and different when it's the pop. It's just a wolf in sheep's clothing, or perhaps a sheep in wolf's clothing. Who knows.

Not that I'm in any way comparing Evil Dead or it's role in culture to the miserable joke that is non-conformist emo shit.

No you see what Im saying is that yes...there is a big cult following behind Evil Dead...but there are still tons of people that have never seen it and would never know anything about it unless you mention a guy with a chainsaw for an arm. Then they mention something about seeing Army of Darkness are seeing it on a shirt.

Evil Dead does have a huge fan base....but its not big enough to where people think of it when they hear Raimi's name.

also...

Just got back from Spiderman 3....

very very very very disapointed

Unless there was a fight going on...it was just pure boredom...

Venom is kick ass...but its weird to hear the meek voice of Topher Grace coming out of him.

Just got back from a midnight showing. Early birthday gift. I can easily say I can die a happy man.

Some of the issues of cult films and whatnot are pretty simular to what I have been talking about and been studying on my cult film course at uni, good points. But whenever there is a discussion about it, you have to remember a cult film will have fans, and then cultists. It can go on and on, but you have to draw a line somewhere.

It was entertaining yet disappointing at the same time.

It's less of a cult flick than "Blair Witch."

I mean, there are blockbusters with less people who have seen 'em.

By the way, did they at least Goa'uld his voice when he's Venom proper?

Yea, saying "there's people who haven't seen it and don't know it" doesn't make it a any less mainstream. There's people who haven't seen the most popular and well known of things, trust me, there's a lot of oblivious people out there.


As for Venom, yes they sort of do the voice effect. It's not as deep and echoing as in the cartoons, but its definitely got the stereo echo thing goin on. I don't mind Topher Grace at all. I felt the movie was perfectly fine, but the ending got overdone and too much was involved in what should have been a one on one affair.

Venom and Brock really shouldn't sound similar. In fact, I'd hire one actor as the voice of Venom, separate from the guy who played Brock. Most villains will sound the same, but Venom is something wholly different from Brock in almost every incarnation.

Was a little dissapointed they he didn't say "we" instead of "I"

I have just returned from watching S3 and i have to say i am a little disappointed. Too much is crammed into the film, which leaves it feeling rather hollow. And lol@peter's heel turn, has too be seen to be believed.

Some parts of the film work really well. Sandman is an awesome enemy and could have been as well fleshed out as Doc Oc given the time....but he isn't.

The effects are good and the set action pieces are pretty awesome.

But fuck the filmakers for making Venom the way they have. He is supposed to be peter parkers greatest enemy, his biggest threat. So they give him barely any screen time and a weak end:nono: V

Venom Should have owned this movie, and they could have done it really well. Instead they have crammed a ton of shit into the film that is not needed.

I enjoyed it as it is spiderman after all, but i am also sorely disappointed. It should have been much much better. they dropped the ball.

IMO, Venom's storyline won't end.

Maybe the Brock/Venom storyline is done, which is a shame. However, Connors still had a piece of the symboite which could easily bond with someone else and or can bond with what escaped from the building (which I'm sure happened).

They should've ended the film right when Brock transformed into Venom in the bell tower.

That could've setup Spiderman 4 with Venom as the main villian and then maybe Lizard as the secondary.

It's an example of a movie that is still pretty good, but is dissapointing. What could have been great was only good.

All the problems with the ending could have been solved with a few things.

Once Sandman is sucked down the drain...let him go. Maybe bring him back down the road, maybe even do that shot to let us know he lived. But drop him for the movie.

The ending then would have been about Venom and Spidey. I then would have had Harry get involved, but as a complete suprise.

And the other thing, Sandman should have been revealed to not be the killer. It should have been revealed that the other guy did shoot Ben, and handed the gun back to him got in the car and ditched him. Then Flint fled. That would explain why Flint wasn't in the car with his accomplice. As for the prisonmate who claimed he confessed to him..well have that be a lie, maybe even have that prisonmates name dropped in passing as...Kletus Kassidy.

If those things were cut out, and the ending was a clear cut battle between just Venom and Spidey with Harry as a tweener dancing both sides until he made the right choice, it would have been solved.
Also, since that would still be one scene exposure for Venom it'd be nice to see Brock apprehended and the suit get away.

Anything would have been better than that cluster fuck of an ending.

Atleast there is still a chance for Venom to return...the professor still has a piece of the symbiote

Yea, mini venom...

The Symbiote's no longer the same thing it was in the comics, though.

Really, really disappointed with it. I mean, I guess it was okay, but that whole movie was sort of a clusterfuck not just the ending. And I hate it when these comic book movies deviate SO FAR from the comics. I mean, I understand that they don't need to be identical but I hate crap that is just totally rewritten for the movie. (SPOILER COMING, Highlight) Like KILLING OFF Spider Man's BIGGEST enemy (arguably, I'm talking about Venom) after he is in an entire half a movie. KILLING OFF Harry Osborne ALREADY. That one I can tolerate though, but the Venom thing is inexcuseable. I can see, though, think about when he threw the grenade at the sybiote it wasn't COMPLETELY destroyed and you see Eddie Brock's skeleton as he is being "incinerated" or so it seems. They could play the angle of he wasn't killed, the explosion caused a permanent bonding of the symbiote with Brock and now he is entirely in Venom form, and cant go back to being human. OR...the explosion with the symbiote creates the symbiote that will become Carnage.
^---Sorry, I'm a little intoxicated and rambling.

I dont know what story they would go with, but it was either, the original comic, the ultimate comic, or the cartoon that had the symbiote split whenever it was on fire and not on a host.

If they really wanted to Im sure they could think of a way to have eddie "saved" by the symbiote or something.

If they really wanted every nerd to cum their pants they can have carnage in the next one, if there is one. They kind of left it open for the lizard to be a villain just because the doctor is in it, and of course the small peice of the suit that he has. Im pretty sure Felicia Harding is the black cat, but they might be able to do that story line with gwen stacy. Plus theres the endless amount of bad guys that they could find any way to throw in there.


In terms of the movie, it is a visual masterpeice. With Venom being my favorite comic book character ever, I of course wish he had a much bigger role, but the movie still kicked ass. Other than the remaining peice of suit, they really tied up almost every storyline possible, which i cant decide whether its good or bad but whatever.

Pretty dissapointed after seeing this last night. It was bad.

Gotta say though, they have done a fine job slowly bringing Connar into the spot-light movie to movie. And I love the introduction of the Black Cat. So thats good.

Movie was terrible though.

Reavant It's bad because they tied them up into a messy knot of shit.

I have had time to think about it a bit more now and i dislike the film more now than i did earlier.

I loved all the action sequences, they were fantastic. However the script sucked and it felt like the story hadn't been given any REAL thought.

Oh and Gwen Stacy isn't the black cat, i am pretty sure you're right on that Reavant.

Okay, so there's a remaining piece of suit. That means they want to set up a symbiote return. Maybe it'll be Venom, or maybe it'll be Carnage, or maybe neither. In any event, unless there's something specific, it looks like they wanted to keep this open.

Hope it's not Carnage, but this seems an obvious choice.

Saw the movie. I don't have time for a proper review but I can tell you this: It was clearly Harry Osborne's movie.

I thought Franco and Grace were the best in this movie...althought it was kinda hard to watch Topher Grace in this movie where in my mind I kept on thinking he was Eric from that 70s Show...

Im wondering if that little piece of the suit will be used in the future of the series (if they make more). Perhaps they just forgot that there was that little piece and figured the fans wouldnt think much of it. Or perhaps they left it there for us to speculate on the future..

Since you never really saw any indication that Venom was killed..(all you saw was a little bit of the symbiote on the ground) makes me hope that they will bring him back...and perhaps use that other little piece to make Carnage and make a Spiderman Dream movie...Venom Vs Spidey Vs Carnage...

This is exactly what I think.

I damn sure got my $6 worth of movie, no doubt about it. Spiderman vs Goblin, struttin' Pete, Venom, Sandman, typical Spiderman responsibility/choices schtick... it was all there.

My only issue is that it wasn't balanced very well.

Oh, and for those of you crying about Venom: the villain isn't dead unless there's a body. Always remember that.

And even then, not always.

Especially since this is a comic book movie. Norman Osbourne came back. Hell, Spider-Man's died a couple times. Venom died. Sorta. Carnage died like 8000000000 times. Sandman? Died. I think the Vulture died before he came back.

So for those of you who saw early shows today, was it packed with alot of kiddies skipping school, or was it rather quiet and everyone enjoyed the beautiful day? I'm catching the early monring show tomorrow and I'd like to know what I should expect.

IT ONLY COST YOU SIX BUCKS!?!?!

Jesus, I don't think I got my $9.50 worth of movie here. I might be happeir with $6.

Matinees, baby.

Also, it's only $7 for me at night thanks to my student status. Just another reason to go to college.

Sadly, it's $13.50 when I'm in Canada.

Saw it for free. :cool:

You know what else is free?

One of these: :foc:

J/k

That's gonna cost you $10

You're kinda whoring yourself at that price. Make it $350.

$5 says Venom isn't dead

I go to college, STILL $9.50!!!!

I adored this movie. My only bitch is that Venom was an afterthought. Sandman was fantastic, and while I will admit I loved seeing the arrogance of symbiote infested emo Parker, I would willingly have sacrificed that for more Venom time. I think Topher Grace nailed Eddie Brock perfectly. Can't wait to see if they do something else with the symbiote.

Worst of all, and no one has noted this: In the flag scene, Spider-man (heroic blue and red costume) webs his way past an American flag on the way to fight a man made of sand (an obvious allegory for...something about the middle east) and an evil alien made of sentient black oil. Doesn't that just seem wrong to anyone else?

Although the movie did lack in bits, overall I found it really enjoyable...although part of that was the fact that I was with a fairly big group of friends and that during the Emo Parker scenes, along with certain other scenes the whole cinema just cracked up laughing.

Also Evil Parker was well worth the price of admission. Words cannot describre how funny that was.

This is what happens when studios listen to fanboys

Going to black text most of this to avoid flamming:

Wasn't as good as 2, but it's a very hard act to follow, IF (please!) they decide to end it now, I'd be happy, but you know Sony and the money train will want more from this, I hope that Venom isn't dead if that is the case as he deserved loads more time, have to admit though, for the small amount of time he was on the screen, he was done very well.

Bruce Campbell is god

Really liked how the Harry storyline played out

Only real issue was the length of the film, think they tried to cram too much into it, personally I think they could of just left out sandman all together given Venom

Oh and I love how evil Peter is Emo, lets face it, Emo is the root to all evil anyway

...no?
I hope not. That's quite the stretch.

I really hope they have the symbiote "save" brock if they do a future movie. He was probably the best villain that they have made. Grace nailed that part.

I think everyone is overreacting on the venom thing.

I mean its pretty obvious that they are intending to bring him back. Otherwise, why would they have eddie jump back into the symbiote, and leave no body behind after the explosion. I think this was just an introduction to the villain, and he will be fleshed out a lot more in the next film.

That said, I was correct in assuming that their would be a little too much going on at once, but it was nowhere near as bad in that regard as x-men 3. Still enjoyed it a great deal.

All the Spider-Man movies just seemed kinda, "meh..." to me. I was, however, thoroughly surprised to see that my local newspaper's movie critic only gave it a 5/10, because according to the headline "Spider-Man 3 has 3 too many villains" or something like that...:wtf:

didnt they show his skeleton being incinerated in the blast?

movie was entertaining...just too much crammed in it

yea but if they wanted, they could say the symbiote protected him or absorbed him somehow

all in all im just praying theres another movie with him in it